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Bigwigg
22nd of August 2003 (Fri), 11:01
Living in Wales (right by the Brecon Beacons) gives me plenty of opportunity to photograph scenery.... This shot was a must have.

The only thing that I can personally see wrong with it is that there is too much of the dark ground in the shot....


www.best-digital-photography.co.uk/images/Images_for_postings/Redskyatnight_large.jpg


regards

Simon Stevens

ryuwulf
22nd of August 2003 (Fri), 11:09
i like it. the sky is lovely

maybe a slight crop and dodging on the botoom. i think it might be a monitor issure because the bottom looks dark.

cheers!!!

eland
22nd of August 2003 (Fri), 19:37
This is potentially a very good image.
It is naturally a Sky Photo and the ground part is only there
to act as a thin base for the composition.

Therefore most of the black foreground is only distracting from the beautiful sky and competing with it.

To concentrate the viewer's eye on the sky, crop the base down
to no more than one centimeter.
Then you compel the viewer to admire the sky as there is nothing else
there to look at.

Regards
eland

stopbath
25th of August 2003 (Mon), 15:16
eland wrote:
To concentrate the viewer's eye on the sky, crop the base down to no more than one centimeter.


I disagree with the one centimeter rule. I would prefer more land (even though it's very dark) to take up a substantial role. The sky should be 'grounded' by more than a sliver. Maybe around a 1/5 of the shot should be gound in this photo.

ryuwulf
25th of August 2003 (Mon), 16:23
stopbath wrote:

I disagree with the one centimeter rule. I would prefer more land (even though it's very dark) to take up a substantial role. The sky should be 'grounded' by more than a sliver. Maybe around a 1/5 of the shot should be gound in this photo.




really? the main focus to me is the sky. it doesnt have to be one centimeter. The thirds guidline(notice i didnt say rule) would help out here.
The bottom is really dark even with dodging, i can understand the dodging for city life or something, but there doesnt seem to anyting too important in the blackness.

hmmmm.....
or i can be totally wrong :)

oh well

once again nice pic

GPR1
25th of August 2003 (Mon), 17:01
This is a great sky shot! Just for my two cents, I would get rid of at least half the ground. I wonder if you'll have another chance at such a sky where you can also place some foreground object for added interest to the shot.

Bigwigg
26th of August 2003 (Tue), 05:00
Thanks for your comments guys.....

Looking at the image now, I think that I should go with the cropping advice. The ground seems to be stealing the show from the sky and should be cropped back a little. Just for future shots, should I try to get more detail out of the ground? (Silhouettes etc)

Thanks again

Simon

Mark Kemp
26th of August 2003 (Tue), 14:14
I see both sides of the more/less land argument, I like either.

The best thing, however is a foreground sillhouette.

Any nice disused mines, castles, churches etc. in Brecon to use as foreground?

If so tell me where as I live just across the river in Gloucester and maybe I will drive over one evening!

Bigwigg
27th of August 2003 (Wed), 04:06
There are plenty of spectacular shots to be taken in most of Wales.... I'm hoping to go up to the mountains with my brother this weekend so I should manage some nice shots (I just hope the weather holds). Lower Macon has some great shots to be had and is easy to reach.

Simon

Conk
27th of August 2003 (Wed), 08:00
I'll echo what Eland said. A slight boost in colour would also do some justice.

Mark Kemp
27th of August 2003 (Wed), 12:58
Lower Macon,

Thanks for the suggestion I will give it a try next time I have a free weekend and a good sunset looks likely

Bigwigg
28th of August 2003 (Thu), 03:50
If you go up on a sunny day, be careful, there are fairly large numbers of adders around the area so be aware of where you tread. I got bitten on the thumb when I was 12 and spent over a week in hospital because of it, not good at all!

There are some great views (especially if the conditions are right) around the area, old houses,barns, church and pine forest (to name a few).

Simon