Canon D30 vs Canon 300D

[LEC_D30]

Does anyone believes that the new Canon 300D could be a better camera than the Canon D30?

Thanks,

lec_d30

[CyberDyneSystems]

Yes.

It will have the advances that 10D has both in larger and more advanced image sensor, and the internal processing (digic processor)

What it won't have is some of the manual flexibility of the D30.

But overall that 6.1 Meagapixels with the enhanced processing (not to mention faster low light autofocus etc..) will offer improved image quality over the D30.

But I'm not knocking the D30! It is still a superb camera.

And it does Infra red better? No?

[LEC_D30]

I think you are right. I really liked my D30 and get fantastic pictures out of it.


Thanks for your reply.

Regards,

lec_d30

[Jorge]

Agree with Cyber.

The D30 (wich I use) is indeed a good camera. However I believe the enhanched processing technology is now able to reduce noise more effectively making higher ISO's more usable wich I would find particular important. Better auto focus and dubble pixel count also matters some.

[TonyKInTexas]

I would not trade my D30 for a 300D. Now a 10D would be a better exchange.

The 300D has too many limitations for me to consider it. For those who do not need the features it will not have, the 300D will represent a good value and a way to get in to DSLR without breaking their bank accounts.

lec_d30 wrote:
Does anyone believes that the new Canon 300D could be a better camera than the Canon D30?

Thanks,

lec_d30

[Guillermo Freige]

They are very different beasts:
The D-30 is a more flexible camera, but the 300D is (probably, no reviews yet) a better camera (more resolution, less noise, better AF) without all the options present in a D-30 (or D-60 or 10D), and it's compatible with the new EF-S lenses (as the new 18-55) but still can use the classic EF lenses without problems.

[danphoto1]

You won't know untill you cna compare the two side by side. All of the comments make sense and will proably be correct. I loved my D30 and it served me well. I was never impressed with my D60 except that it gave me a little more latitude in enlarging or cropping images. I didn't ever feel that it was worth the upgrade My 10D is great!!! The only thing that it can't do is Sports action because of the shutter lag. It's the same story you get what you pay for and each camera has it's own specific use; pros and cons

[lightandlife]

The answer depends on what one means by "better."

If you mean functionality, despite some differences, 300D is likely to be far better. I am willing to trade D30 for it.

However, D30 made history during the transition era when it was competing with Kodak digital camera that used Nikon body and cost $10,000. Because it was so successful, Canon made further investment to bring out better digital cameras.

I can almost detect many D30 owners hurting when they compare D30 with 300D. There is no need to replace it by 300D. 10D makes more sense.

We will all be happy if we learn to live with owners of newer and better equipment. They will always be around us, no matter how often we update our equipment.

[Andy_T]

The same holds true here as for anybody owning a G1/G2/G3 and thinking whether or not to upgrade to the new G5.

If you already have a good camera (and the D30 is a good camera) you must evaluate how much the improved features are worth for you over what you already have.

In the 300D case, however, you must also put the (most likely) reduced build quality and less flexible use on the negative side of the equation.

Regards,
Andy

[slau]

I really don't understand why anyone worry about the build-quality of the 300D. When was the last time your camera body failed during normal course of usage due to poor build quality, especially of a digital camera? Do you really think you will keep your 300D forever (or as long as your old film cameras)?

I have used a lot of cameras over time and none of them failed because of poor 'build-quality'. Any mechanical/electronic problem of a camera usually have nothing to do with the material of the camera body (whether it is steel, plastic or alloy). I may be concern about QC if I think a company may cut corners in order to lower costs, but there is no evidence that this is the case with 300D (yet).

Yes, I believe that the 300D most likely will be a better camera to take pictures for 99% of the users here. But there is always a better camera than yours, and it doesn't mean that you have to dump your D30, which may be perfectly a fine camera for YOU. I am waiting for people to dump their D60 so that I can pick one up as back-up.

[agit-prop]

For what it's worth I picked up my G1 about 2-3 months after it was discontinued by Canon for about $900 Cdn.

I've just two days ago acquired a lightly used D30 for a similar price: $1200 Cdn including a 35-105 lens. I could have spent $300 more for a 300D but I did not. The reality is this: I won't print my photographs frequently as I'll mainly be publishing them online. Therefore I don't need the higher resolution.

Another factor ws the context of the Camera within the market. When the D30 was introduced, it was the first camera of it's class; a "pro-sumer" digital SLR. When I think of prosumer offerings from Canon I think back to the 35mm A1 I started with almost 20 years ago. I think one may very safely make the comparison between the D30 and the A1. Both were top of the line cameras that represented a true professional feature set with all of the flexibility that implies, minus a few of the more more esoteric features and expansion capabilities offered on the New F1 and Eos 1D respectively.

It must be remembered that this camera HAD to be head and shoulders above the best of the rangefinder digitals of it's time of introduction. It had to embody the best that could be tranferred from contemporary prosumer 35mm EOS cameras while improving on the ease of use of the canon/kodak digital SLRs. Aditionally it represented a revolution in that it introduced the idea of pro grade large format CMOS sensors.

When I look at the 300D and weigh it's higher resolution against it's reduced feature set I always come back to the D30. Yes, the focussing is faster. That means that you will be able to quickly not focus those items that are impossible to focus in the D30. I also need the selection of metering modes offered in the D30

Going back to the context of the camera in the market I believe the rebel moniker is fitting for the 300D. I think that the 300D is being targeted to the same audience that the AE1 was made for in the late '70s. Or, to compare to the T series cammeras, the D30 is more like a T90 while the 300D is like a T70

Don't get me wrong. The 300D is a fine camera. I know that it will be the right choice for many, just not for me.

When I next look at buying a digital SLR, I'll probably be shopping for a used 10D 3 or 4 years from now.