NEW 5D RUMOUR !!

[lowcrust]

While we're all being pretty flippant :lol: I think there's a limited list of reasons why a full roll-out of XSi's has been delayed until June 15, 2008 according to Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Digital-Rebel-Camera-Black/dp/B0012Y88QQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1208232795&sr=1-2).

I'm thinking they either found a significant last minute issue with the XSi's OR they pushed back physical production of the XSi to get the 5D Mk II line running at full tilt (and build up a nice surplus to they can have product on the shelves the day of announcement).

Seeing as those lucky enough to snag some of the first XSi's haven't reported any major issues, I'm guessing all hands on deck were getting the 5D Mk II ready, presumably at the expense of a quicker delivery date for the XSi.

Lovely train of thought!

[I Simonius]

Can't we at least get a photoshop version of the 5D with the buttons moved around as a teaser? :)

yeah you would have though someone by now could have knocked one up ( I would but my PS skills aren't up to it)


Enjoy those MK3s:D

[Radtech1]

FWIW, I saw Costco with a 5d at 1899.00 over the weekend.

If I remember correctly, I paid 3200, so we are very close to half of original.

Not quite sure if you can read the tea leaves with that, but interesting.

Rad

[Blue S2]

Yeah seriously! I can't image the 5D becoming any better of a deal than it is right now!

If anything its worth buying as a backup body at this point!

[VTSHEP1]

Yeah seriously! I can't image the 5D becoming any better of a deal than it is right now!

If anything its worth buying as a backup body at this point!

Hmmm....I dont know if i agree. It really seems to depend on how you shoot. For half the price of a 5D you can get a 40D, you lose 2.7MP and full frame sensor...BUT you pretty much double your fps, add live view, dust sensor cleaning, larget LCD, 14bit...for many people the +'s and -'s do not add up to the price difference.

[lowcrust]

What were those fruits again?

[I Simonius]

Hmmm....I dont know if i agree. It really seems to depend on how you shoot. For half the price of a 5D you can get a 40D, you lose 2.7MP and full frame sensor...BUT you pretty much double your fps, add live view, dust sensor cleaning, larget LCD, 14bit...for many people the +'s and -'s do not add up to the price difference.

mmmm but OH that Full Frame...mmm;):D

[mattograph]

mmmm but OH that Full Frame...mmm;):D

Doesn't a full frame just multiply your chance of making a mistake?

signed,

uber-confident

[VTSHEP1]

FF, absolutely! For me, that i what i want, but i dont think the price is in line with a camera that is months away from being 3 years old. And Canon has never waited more than 3 years to release any body. If i had the disposable cash i would go 1Ds now, but the lotto hasnt panned out, so i am between a bird in the hand (D3 now) or the one in the bush (5DII).

[I Simonius]

Doesn't a full frame just multiply your chance of making a mistake?


how?:confused:???

FF, absolutely! For me, that i what i want, but i dont think the price is in line with a camera that is months away from being 3 years old. And Canon has never waited more than 3 years to release any body. If i had the disposable cash i would go 1Ds now, but the lotto hasnt panned out, so i am between a bird in the hand (D3 now) or the one in the bush (5DII).

having used (not owned though)the 1Ds mk1 and mk2 I would (funnily enough) stick with the 5D. No it doesn't have as many pixels but IMO the IQ just takes the lead, it has a quality the others don't (big pixels baby;)!)

So actually now is the time to get a 5D if you're not waiting for the mk2;):D

[mattograph]

how?:confused:???

More stuff in the picture!

[I Simonius]

More stuff in the picture!

hmm some people control that through choice of lenses:rolleyes:

[Blue S2]

Some people control that with proper and creative composition, relative distance, perspective, etc...

By saying a full frame is more prone to making mistakes, then I would think the easiest cameras to compose with would be point and shoots. Through experience I find this totally backwards logic. On the same token, this would make all film cameras just as easy to make "mistakes" on.

With that said, amazing how a Leica where you don't even see through the lens, with a fixed focal lenth, no light meter, no autofocus, and no autocontrols helped shape the most amazing images of the last generation. And it was "full frame."

The dim viewfinders of crop cameras seem to be more prone to "visual mistakes" on the part of the photographer I would think. Oh well, go figure.

[I Simonius]

With that said, amazing how a Leica where you don't even see through the lens, with a fixed focal lenth, no light meter, no autofocus, and no autocontrols helped shape the most amazing images of the last generation. And it was "full frame."

.

come to think of it FF should be harder to make mistake s as you have a clearer VF;)

[tiziano]

Doesn't a full frame just multiply your chance of making a mistake?

signed,

uber-confident

The opposite: the more you need to enlarge the image captured by the sensor or film, the more you enlarge the image defects.

[mattograph]

how?:confused:???



having used (not owned though)the 1Ds mk1 and mk2 I would (funnily enough) stick with the 5D. No it doesn't have as many pixels but IMO the IQ just takes the lead, it has a quality the others don't (big pixels baby;)!)

So actually now is the time to get a 5D if you're not waiting for the mk2;):D

Some people control that with proper and creative composition, relative distance, perspective, etc...

By saying a full frame is more prone to making mistakes, then I would think the easiest cameras to compose with would be point and shoots. Through experience I find this totally backwards logic. On the same token, this would make all film cameras just as easy to make "mistakes" on.

With that said, amazing how a Leica where you don't even see through the lens, with a fixed focal lenth, no light meter, no autofocus, and no autocontrols helped shape the most amazing images of the last generation. And it was "full frame."

The dim viewfinders of crop cameras seem to be more prone to "visual mistakes" on the part of the photographer I would think. Oh well, go figure.


Sorry..... was trying to be funny..... and failed.:o

[Blue S2]

Oh, my bad! I was semi-sarcastic as well. But you do get a lot of people online having some weird views! So ya never know sometimes!

I've also always been one that just doesn't see a point to a cropped sensor in anyway. I've always thought manufacturers should be striving for larger sensors with larger pixels than can output clean images. Then again, I wonder where things will go once we start reaching the circle of illumination limits.

[Pinto]

Sorry..... was trying to be funny..... and failed.:o

You didn't fail at all. It was perfect timing and very funny. You just had a poor audience that responded. Some folks just don't have much of a sense of humor.

[Blue S2]

Some folks are way too serious about their unreleased cameras!!

:D

[lowcrust]

Group hug!

[I Simonius]

Sorry..... was trying to be funny..... and failed.:o

DOH! missed that -sorry!
Can we make it up with some "compulsory laugh at my joke" tokens for next time?:lol::cool:

Here's two:

[[zibbeldysquibbelldeysquoo
Im the one for you
zibbeldysuibelldeysqautt
one of these for that]]
:twisted::razz:

(sorry I often wake up quite mad:rolleyes:)

[I Simonius]

Group hug!

group hug!:D

[I Simonius]

You didn't fail at all. It was perfect timing and very funny. You just had a poor audience that responded. Some folks just don't have much of a sense of humor.

guilty as charged! "orf with my head!":o:o:o:oops::oops::oops:

[I Simonius]

DOH! missed that -sorry!
Can we make it up with some "compulsory laugh at my joke" tokens for next time?

Here's two:

[[zibbeldysquibbelldeysquoo
Im the one for you
zibbeldysuibelldeysqautt
one of these for that]]


(sorry I often wake up quite mad:rolleyes:)

group hug!:D

guilty as charged! "orf with my head!":

just reminding myself how to use the multiquote:rolleyes:
:oops::oops::oops:

[robogobo]

wow, it's been years since I visited this forum, and I just heard of the rumor about a possible 5D upgrade, so here I am. No joy, but you guys are really good for a laugh! Is this the insanity that comes from waiting so long?

[tiziano]

Doesn't a full frame just multiply your chance of making a mistake?


Sorry..... was trying to be funny..... and failed.:o

You didn't fail at all. It was perfect timing and very funny. You just had a poor audience that responded. Some folks just don't have much of a sense of humor.

You both have British uncestors, I guess?

:D

[I Simonius]

You both have British uncestors, I guess?

:D

'Uncestors' you say?... could well be;):D:p

[mattograph]

*sobbing*

I love you guys!

[I Simonius]

*sobbing*

I love you guys!

c'mon 'nother group hug*sniff*

[mattograph]

c'mon 'nother group hug*sniff*

Hey, who grabbed my bum?!?!?!

[AdamJL]

Simon

[tiziano]

'Uncestors' you say?... could well be;):D:p

Ohoh...

Umhh... emhh...

I guess I meant ancestors... :oops:

[I Simonius]

Hey, who grabbed my bum?!?!?!

when did you last have it?:p

[I Simonius]

Simon

I never!- how very dare you:evil: (minces out)
:lol:

[mattograph]

I never!- how very dare you:evil: (minces out)
:lol:

If it helps, I sorta liked it.:o

[I Simonius]

If it helps, I sorta liked it.:o

Help! Please Canon announce a new 5D before we all go quite quite bonkers:twisted:

[mattograph]

Help! Please Canon announce a new 5D before we all go quite quite bonkers:twisted:

Already there!!!!!!


*stares into space, plucking lips with finger and drooling uncontrollably*

[Chandler.]

This thread is so old it's going senile...

[AdamJL]

Just like it's creator

[Chandler.]

I can picture Simon right now. Naked, emaciated, with long hair and beard, absolutely filthy, clutching his 5D and 35L, with a laptop in front of him, just scouring the net for rumors.

"Any day now...............any day now................almost there.......18 MP.....weathersealing.......100% viewfinder.......................my prrrrecious....."

[lowcrust]

OK, so a few days ago I made an effort to seek up an old acquaintance of my mom who is a hot shot in Canon Europe, although on the copy/printer side. It's actually a friend of one of her friends. But as a teenager I met this guy quite a few times (they all share a mutual hobby). I suddenly remembered him a while back when getting into a discussion here about lead in the 200 1.8 (or lack there of). That time I never made the effort to seek him up, but as my mom was meeting him today I had to jump on the chance although it's been 20 years since last time we met.

Anyhow, my mothers other friend is a photo journalist but prefers Noiks, so I specifically remember the other guy talking passionately about photography, albeit preferring Canon cameras (surprise, surprise). So, I figured I had to tag along and strike up a conversation with this guy.

He said back in the day he would know about new stuff long in advance, sometimes even getting production samples to secretly play around with. These days the departments are more separated, both in terms of location but also in terms of co-operation. He said since the introduction of internet they are very tight lipped about stuff even to a man in his position. I bugged him a little saying he must be interested enough to talk to people on the camera side and he must know something about the new 5d. I told him about this rumor hand he said with a smirk on his face that the rumor is without a doubt false. If he were to make an "educated guess" (again with the smirk) it would be announced August/September. He would not discuss/guess specs other than the ones in the rumor (that I could remember) sounded "plausible".

And I forgot to ask about if he could help me with the 200 1.8 discussion!

Not much, take it for what it is, just thought I'd share as "anything goes" in this thread. Oh, and he said he's a 1D mkIII shooter and consider that "the ultimate camera" right now ("yes" on my question if that includes the D3 and D300).

[mattograph]

OK, so a few days ago I made an effort to seek up an old acquaintance of my mom who is a hot shot in Canon Europe, although on the copy/printer side. It's actually a friend of one of her friends. But as a teenager I met this guy quite a few times (they all share a mutual hobby). I suddenly remembered him a while back when getting into a discussion here about lead in the 200 1.8 (or lack there of). That time I never made the effort to seek him up, but as my mom was meeting him today I had to jump on the chance although it's been 20 years since last time we met.

Anyhow, my mothers other friend is a photo journalist but prefers Noiks, so I specifically remember the other guy talking passionately about photography, albeit preferring Canon cameras (surprise, surprise). So, I figured I had to tag along and strike up a conversation with this guy.

He said back in the day he would know about new stuff long in advance, sometimes even getting production samples to secretly play around with. These days the departments are more separated, both in terms of location but also in terms of co-operation. He said since the introduction of internet they are very tight lipped about stuff even to a man in his position. I bugged him a little saying he must be interested enough to talk to people on the camera side and he must know something about the new 5d. I told him about this rumor hand he said with a smirk on his face that the rumor is without a doubt false. If he were to make an "educated guess" (again with the smirk) it would be announced August/September. He would not discuss/guess specs other than the ones in the rumor (that I could remember) sounded "plausible".

And I forgot to ask about if he could help me with the 200 1.8 discussion!

Not much, take it for what it is, just thought I'd share as "anything goes" in this thread. Oh, and he said he's a 1D mkIII shooter and consider that "the ultimate camera" right now ("yes" on my question if that includes the D3 and D300).

I would say that all sounds plausible. The big question is -- can he get you any free stuff?!?!?!:)

[lowcrust]

Actually I always got lots of cool swag from him as a kid, I used to collect stickers and he was my second best source (after my uncle who actually had a sticker factory).

I guess my childhood charm is gone or he turned Grinch on me, I didn't get anything now!

[I Simonius]

Just like it's creator

eh whaddyer say? - can't hear ye boy speak up.. what he say ma?
:lol:

I can picture Simon right now. Naked, emaciated, with long hair and beard, absolutely filthy, clutching his 5D and 35L, with a laptop in front of him, just scouring the net for rumors.

"Any day now...............any day now................almost there.......18 MP.....weathersealing.......100% viewfinder.......................my prrrrecious....."

what's it got in its pocketsies?
:p

[I Simonius]

OK, so a few days ago I made an effort to seek up an old acquaintance of my mom who is a hot shot in Canon Europe, ---------- If he were to make an "educated guess" (again with the smirk) it would be announced August/September. He would not discuss/guess specs other than the ones in the rumor (that I could remember) sounded "plausible".
.

is what I always said

I'm POSITIVE Canon will announce the mk2 but not until end aug/sept (PMA right?)

I just really really hope now above everything else now that I have tried the 1Dsmk3 , that they will incorporate that VF in the new 5D

However it's too late to change whatever they have done, it'll be way past the drawing board stage ( I imagine) so finigeroos crossedd;)

[FlyingPhotog]

is what I always said

I'm POSITIVE Canon will announce the mk2 but not until end aug/sept (PMA right?)

Photokina .. The other "Dream Factory"

[I Simonius]

Photokina .. The other "Dream Factory"

ahh ok thanks:D

[AdamJL]

I hope a DIIIN is also released at the same time. Or if not, I hope the 5DII has a 1 series AF system like the D300 has the D3's system.

[Hermes]

Those of you who have followed Canon's strategy and development cycles longer than i have, do you reckon there is any chance the 5DMKII or whatever they call it will have two card slots?

On the one hand you could say it's something that's reserved for 1-series bodies but on the other hand you could say that the (assumed) higher MP of the new model and the long-run switch to SD cards would warrant it.

Any thoughts?

[I Simonius]

Those of you who have followed Canon's strategy and development cycles longer than i have, do you reckon there is any chance the 5DMKII or whatever they call it will have two card slots?

On the one hand you could say it's something that's reserved for 1-series bodies but on the other hand you could say that the (assumed) higher MP of the new model and the long-run switch to SD cards would warrant it.

Any thoughts?

it's a thought - but if they do I hope it's two CF slots - who the blazes buys SD cards ion the DSLR world ( before the 1ds3 that is) actually looking carefully at the 1Ds3 you can see why they did that - because there just wasnt room to quite accomodtae another CF

[Discov3ry]

Unofficial 5D Mark II spy photos and short review (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=488370)

[Hermes]

it's a thought - but if they do I hope it's two CF slots - who the blazes buys SD cards ion the DSLR world ( before the 1ds3 that is) actually looking carefully at the 1Ds3 you can see why they did that - because there just wasnt room to quite accomodtae another CF

I think its more that Canon are going to switch to using SD in all their cameras eventually and thought that the best way to ease customers into it would be having one of each slot.

Releasing the MKII which has been anticipated for so long without utilising SD would seem to undermine the switch in formats whilst releasing it with only an SD slot will piss off everyone with CF cards wanting to upgrade - thats why it crossed my mind that they might incorporate both.

[AdamJL]

Unofficial 5D Mark II spy photos and short review (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=488370)

ooo..pimping your own thread :rolleyes:

[I Simonius]

I think its more that Canon are going to switch to using SD in all their cameras eventually and thought that the best way to ease customers into it would be having one of each slot.

Releasing the MKII which has been anticipated for so long without utilising SD would seem to undermine the switch in formats whilst releasing it with only an SD slot will piss off everyone with CF cards wanting to upgrade - thats why it crossed my mind that they might incorporate both.

you could have a point iof they seriously want to change to SD but why would they ? They are so user unfriendly - I mean those things are fiddly and waaay too easy to lose/misplace etc

[Hermes]

you could have a point iof they seriously want to change to SD but why would they ? They are so user unfriendly - I mean those things are fiddly and waaay too easy to lose/misplace etc

SD cards are smaller, capable of DRM/security and potentially cheaper. I agree it's a pointless move but there seems to be a consensus that that's the way Canon (and consumer electronics in general) are headed.

[I Simonius]

SD cards are smaller, capable of DRM/security and potentially cheaper. I agree it's a pointless move but there seems to be a consensus that that's the way Canon (and consumer electronics in general) are headed.

oh poo!:evil:

[robogobo]

crickets.

[I Simonius]

crickets.

and the cracking sound of dry grass in the windless heat...
:(

[Jim G]

and the cracking sound of dry grass in the windless heat...
:(

*lights a match*

[I Simonius]

*lights a match*


lights his cheroot, and flicks the match....
(all we see is the slow mo of the match slowly circling away as it flicks from fingers caressed with the last wisp of smoke form te match; we're left wondering whether it will hit the ground still hot ofr not...)

:eek:

[I Simonius]

http://www.photographybay.com/2007/09/18/canon-5d-mark-ii-coming-november-2007/
Just wondering about this pic.. if they have 'weatherproofed the 5Dmk2 then if they've done a proper job on it the ne 5D will not have the dial on top (like the 1Ds series) - so this fake pic is fake-fake!

[Jim G]

lights his cheroot, and flicks the match....
(all we see is the slow mo of the match slowly circling away as it flicks from fingers caressed with the last wisp of smoke form te match; we're left wondering whether it will hit the ground still hot ofr not...)

:eek:

*takes photo of match in midair with new 5D's "match in air" scene mode*

[Jim G]

http://www.photographybay.com/2007/09/18/canon-5d-mark-ii-coming-november-2007/
Just wondering about this pic.. if they have 'weatherproofed the 5Dmk2 then if they've done a proper job on it the ne 5D will not have the dial on top (like the 1Ds series) - so this fake pic is fake-fake!

Heck, I could have done that in PS.

Mind you, the real 5D II probably won't look THAT different anyway to something you could pull up in PS :p

[FlyingPhotog]

lights his cheroot, and flicks the match....
(all we see is the slow mo of the match slowly circling away as it flicks from fingers caressed with the last wisp of smoke form te match; we're left wondering whether it will hit the ground still hot ofr not...)

:eek:

Brilliant wordsmithing...

[I Simonius]

*takes photo of match in midair with new 5D's "match in air" scene mode*

I wonder wheter we'll see the return of the DOF mode? As it is hard to suss out the hyperfocal distance on autofocus cameras I would welcome its return...;)

[I Simonius]

Heck, I could have done that in PS.

Mind you, the real 5D II probably won't look THAT different anyway to something you could pull up in PS :p

Heck IM sure any of us coulderer:lol:
(someone did obviously - my point was that if it had the grade 1 weathersealing on the 1Ds series it woulder not 'ad the dial))

[I Simonius]

Brilliant wordsmithing...

I shoiuld have been a movie director yer reckon?;):p

[FlyingPhotog]

I shoiuld have been a movie director yer reckon?;):p

Definately...

I can see it now: "I Simonious Presents: 'Gone In 60 Seconds' .. Based on the real life events of April 22, 2008 and what happened to the hopes and dreams of Canon-istas everywhere that fateful day..."

Coming soon to a POTN near you!

It's a sure fire hit!!

[I Simonius]

Definately...

I can see it now: "I Simonious Presents: 'Gone In 60 Seconds' .. Based on the real life events of April 22, 2008 and what happened to the hopes and dreams of Canon-istas everywhere that fateful day..."

Coming soon to a POTN near you!

It's a sure fire hit!!


great stuff!:lol:

[FlyingPhotog]

great stuff!:lol:

Here's your award:

http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/62911871/original.jpg

[I Simonius]

[QUOTE=FlyingPhotog;5386428]Here's your award:

where's the CF card go?

[FlyingPhotog]

Needs no storage because the person holding one can recall every little detail regarding how they got it...

Doesn't need a battery either...it's powered by pure Ego!

[I Simonius]

Interesting that the domain name
Canon5Dmk2.com
is taken...
;)

[John_TX]

It looks like Canon5Dmk2.com was first registered 12/27/2007 through Godaddy.com & is parked there as well. WHOIS info is set to "Private."

Kinda worthless information though, as obviously, if Canon does own it, it's not going to point back to Canon's network here:

http://www.robtex.com/dns/canon.com.html

I'd say it's probably owned by one of the sleazy scam shops or one of the people who buy thousands of domain names and try to make money via parked hits/page loads/referrals/ad views.

[I Simonius]

I'd say it's probably owned by one of the sleazy scam shops or one of the people who buy thousands of domain names and try to make money via parked hits/page loads/referrals/ad views.

I guess well have to wait and see - like my prediction that it will be sept before we get an announcement - bet Im right;)

[John_TX]

I guess well have to wait and see - like my prediction that it will be sept before we get an announcement - bet Im right;)

Yeah, I think your right. It will be released the same way they handled the 40D release last fall. I'm still waiting for the 5D to fall more in price, maybe they're hope this summer!

[gabrioladude]

haven't followed each post in this thread but went back a few to see if this was posted
couldn't find it

so here it is

the new Mark II

http://www.photographybay.com/2008/04/19/eos-5d-mark-ii-displayed-on-canon-germany-website/

[Pinto]

haven't followed each post in this thread but went back a few to see if this was posted
couldn't find it

so here it is

the new Mark II

http://www.photographybay.com/2008/04/19/eos-5d-mark-ii-displayed-on-canon-germany-website/

Posted many places, many times. But thanks for the effort.

[lowcrust]

It was also fake to begin with.

[I Simonius]

haven't followed each post in this thread but went back a few to see if this was posted
couldn't find it

so here it is

the new Mark II

http://www.photographybay.com/2008/04/19/eos-5d-mark-ii-displayed-on-canon-germany-website/

good try;)

[mattograph]

I think we need a new rumor.

[John_TX]

Someone closed down the EOS 5D Mark II Is Here thread :(
That one was actually just starting to get interesting!

[I Simonius]

Someone closed down the EOS 5D Mark II Is Here thread :(
That one was actually just starting to get interesting!

and this one isn't???

Is there any aspect of the new 5D we haven't discussed here???

I think not...;)

[maunger]

I just bought a 5d Thursday - must be a new one coming soon! (sorry - couldn't resist)

[I Simonius]

I just bought a 5d Thursday - must be a new one coming soon! (sorry - couldn't resist)

Congratulations!:D

Buy up them thar old 5Ds me hearties - make room for the new'un, yeee haaar!:D:cool:

[I Simonius]

OK it's probablt waaay too late to put in feature requests cos the 5Dmk2 just has to be past the drawing board stage by now doesn't it?

But apart from all the obvious features, i.e. every new feature the 40D has over the 30D, the potential for stunning high ISO and fantastic DR has just got to be the new 5Dmk2's major selling point - which is great - but as I have mentioned before, apart from all the little tweaks and fiddly bits over and above the major IQ improvments it will have (especialy over the latest and next comparable noinks;)), the single biggest feature to put the 5Dmk2 head and shoulders above the competition would be to have the 1Dsmk3 VF

Really - I have looked through it and taken test shots and if it weren't for the wheight ( and cost) of that thing the VF alone would sell it.. If the 5D has that it will be sucha killer camera - ultra stunning!:cool:

Lets hope!:cool:;)

[John_TX]

I'd like custom settable bracketing (at least 7-9 shots) and EV range of at least -5 to 5+. That would be awesome for HDR shots.

[I Simonius]

I'd like custom settable bracketing (at least 7-9 shots) and EV range of at least -5 to 5+. That would be awesome for HDR shots.

wider bracketing options (for HDR) is certainly one of those things I also reqested many pages ago in this thread, so yes that would be good, but still I cannae emphasise enough the importance of an exceptional VF , the difference it makes to the photographic experience is not to be underestimated:D:cool:;)

[I Simonius]

Forgot all about A-DEP!

I hope they bring that back it was waaay the best tool for finding the hyperfocal distance/required f stop for the requireed DOF

Wonderful tool and they ditched it - why - just because 'pro's) wouldn't want an tool to make life easier - or didnt it work?

[AdamJL]

^ over-rated feature IMO. I'd rather they got rid of the Print button.

[Colorblinded]

A-DEP... IIRC my EOS 3 has that. Never used it. I hear it was rather complicated to use.

I think there are ways they could do that with a modern DSLR that would be much easier to use though.

[I Simonius]

A-DEP... IIRC my EOS 3 has that. Never used it. I hear it was rather complicated to use.

I think there are ways they could do that with a modern DSLR that would be much easier to use though.

Never had any problem with it - didn't seem complicated to me;)

So what would you like to see that would be an improvement on it?

[dandig]

Do you think the markII will have a faster sync speed? For me this is the reason that I have not purchased a 5d. I would love to go right out and buy one now but I shoot action sports with remote strobes outside so having a faster sync speed is very important. On my 1dMKIIn i can sync at 1/320 no problem.

I hope the 5d MarkII has 1/250 sync!!

[mattograph]

Do you think the markII will have a faster sync speed? For me this is the reason that I have not purchased a 5d. I would love to go right out and buy one now but I shoot action sports with remote strobes outside so having a faster sync speed is very important. On my 1dMKIIn i can sync at 1/320 no problem.

I hope the 5d MarkII has 1/250 sync!!

I can't imagine it won't. If that's on board the Digic III processor, they would have to reverse engineer to remove it.

[John_TX]

I can't imagine it won't. If that's on board the Digic III processor, they would have to reverse engineer to remove it.

The 40D has 1/250 sync. I also can't imagine them not at least meeting 40D specs with regards to flash control.

[lowcrust]

Well the 20D has a sync speed of 1/250 and that camera had been out for almost a year when they released the 5D. That didn't stop Canon from giving it a x-sync of 200...

[I Simonius]

Well the 20D has a sync speed of 1/250 and that camera had been out for almost a year when they released the 5D. That didn't stop Canon from giving it a x-sync of 200...

the larger mirror perhaps takes longer to move?:p

[CoolToolGuy]

the larger mirror perhaps takes longer to move?:p

Or perhaps the larger shutter curtain? :confused:

Have Fun,

[dandig]

well yes thats nearly it, not the larger mirror but just the longer distance the shutter has to move to cover the larger sensor. I sincerely hope they do up it to 1/250

[John_TX]

I don't see why they couldn't make the 5D Mk II 1/250. The 1Ds Mk III, being a full-frame camera also does 1/250 with that size of a shutter. The 1D Mk III 1.3x cropper does 1/300.

I'd be willing to bet the 5D Mk II does 1/250 easily.

[lowcrust]

One can always hope... but the 1D and 1Ds are in another league in terms of price.

[mattograph]

the larger mirror perhaps takes longer to move?:p

never thought of that.

[I Simonius]

I suspect that the next 5D will have to have some design chnages to comply withthe weatherprofyness

i.e. if it's going to be more than token nod in the direction of weather proffness then tey'll have to ditch the mode dial on top of the camera as tis is the weatherproofness weak spot, and they'll have to replace with buttons like the 1Ds

This is probably what is taking to long to get to production: the question of how to make the 5D 2 weatherproof without sacrificing the mode dial and how to get 'semi-pros' etc to accept a camera without a mode dial;)

[jj_photography]

Would it be better just to wait for this update rather than buying the current one now? Well for me I want to wait. :)

[I Simonius]

Would it be better just to wait for this update rather than buying the current one now? Well for me I want to wait. :)

this question is asKed again and again:rolleyes:;):p:D

It boils down to two opposing things

How much do you want to spend
How much do you want/NEED new features

whigh one against teother and you'll have your answer:cool:

OH not to forget one is available and no one knows when the other wil be;)

[weka2000]

this question is asKed again and again:rolleyes:;):p:D



along with my other favorite

"whats better 5D or 40D" :lol:

[elysium]

along with my other favorite

"whats better 5D or 40D" :lol:
Ah the BMW vs Mercedes topic all over again. I dont understand why people forget they are marketed for different people with different expectations.

Some members on here think its all about FPS and focus speed and how the 5D is lagging. Its turning into another "mine has more pixels than yours" issue.

[I Simonius]

Its turning into another "mine has more pixels than yours" issue.

not really - only one poster so far asked and just because lots of people asked in te past and eslewhere doesn't mean its an issue;) - really its OK, jsut that having read so many the anser does boil down to the two choices I mentioned;):D

[I Simonius]

along with my other favorite

"whats better 5D or 40D" :lol:

yeah but which is?:lol:

[jj_photography]

this question is asKed again and again:rolleyes:;):p:D

haha

[mattograph]

okay, lets cover some old territory........

How much is this puppy gonna cost.

A 1D MKIII is going for $4200 right now -- Think the 5D MKII will come in at $2999?

[weka2000]

yeah but which is?:lol:
Neither as I upgraded to 1Dsmk3 :lol:

[I Simonius]

Neither as I upgraded to 1Dsmk3 :lol:

Grrrr
:evil::evil::evil::lol:


okay, lets cover some old territory........

How much is this puppy gonna cost.

A 1D MKIII is going for $4200 right now -- Think the 5D MKII will come in at $2999?

Not sure what it'll be in the Sates but here in UK I suspect it willhave top come in at or very close to the 5D intro price, i.e. about £2500

[weka2000]

Grrrr
:evil::evil::evil::lol:

New thread which one is better 5D or 1Ds :)

[lowcrust]

Anybody going to PhotoKina this year? I'm thinking about going (and then stealing the MKII production sample of course).

[mattograph]

Grrrr
:evil::evil::evil::lol:




Not sure what it'll be in the Sates but here in UK I suspect it willhave top come in at or very close to the 5D intro price, i.e. about £2500

Lets see, with the way the US dollar is going, that should be about $43,000 US by September. :confused:

[I Simonius]

New thread which one is better 5D or 1Ds :)

cheeky blighter:eek::p

Lets see, with the way the US dollar is going, that should be about $43,000 US by September. :confused:

ouch!:cry:

Anybody going to PhotoKina this year? I'm thinking about going (and then stealing the MKII production sample of course).

right - you can be the official reporter on the 5Dmk2:D

[Yohan Pamudji]

Okay, I have another wishlist item that I don't remember being mentioned: a longer eyepiece. Got a 5D the other day (yes, I finally caved in--sold my backup 1DII and needed a 2nd body) and just like the 20D before it I really miss the 1D-style eyepiece when using it. Being of asian descent I have a short and pudgy nose, and even then the short distance between face and LCD bothers me since I'm having to press my nose up on the LCD. How do you people with "regular" size noses (or bigger) deal with it?! I can just imagine veteran photographers 30 years from now with their crooked noses like retired boxers.

And no, I don't want to buy the eyepiece extender since it reduces magnification. I guess moving the eyepoint further back would require a larger prism to give the same magnification? Just a guess since I have no knowledge of viewfinder/prism design. It's always so much easier to wish for something than to implement it :D

Having finally used a 5D I'm even more certain of the main points on my wishlist for the 5DII:

- Better AF--more crosstype points and better spread over more of the frame (the non-crosstype points on the 5D are just as bad as I thought they'd be, and that diamond is the pits)
- Better high ISO noise (in shadow areas the 5D kills the 1DII, but in well lit areas they're more or less equal at per-pixel level)
- 100% viewfinder

Secondary items:

- At least 5 fps
- Weather sealing
- Higher-res LCD
- Longer eyepiece!

12MP is great for me, although a small increase to 15MP while also improving high ISO noise (a la 1DIII) would work too. I'd gladly trade the extra resolution for even better noise performance, but somehow I doubt that the resolution would stay the same as everybody else already has 12/14MP crop sensors. I'll keep dreaming for this mythical camera to materialize, as it would be the last camera I'd need for a long long time (as it would be for many others, which is probably why we won't see it happen).

[YosemiteJunkie]

Interesting that the domain name
Canon5Dmk2.com
is taken...
;)
hmmmm. No Canon links on that page. I wonder........

[YosemiteJunkie]

I just bought a 5d Thursday - must be a new one coming soon! (sorry - couldn't resist)
:D Had to chuckle at this. Back when I was teaching computer nerds how to be computer techs I used to tell them if you really want a good price just wait until I buy. It's a sure bet that within a week it'll be nearly half the price then.

[YosemiteJunkie]

this question is asKed again and again:rolleyes:;):p:D
It boils down to two opposing things
How much do you want to spend
How much do you want/NEED new features
whigh one against teother and you'll have your answer:cool:
OH not to forget one is available and no one knows when the other wil be;)
It figures that I'm finally getting the money to get the 5d. I've been drooling over that for what seems forever. I want it NOW and I know darn well I'll regret it if I don't wait for the new one.

[I Simonius]

I want it NOW and I know darn well I'll regret it if I don't wait for the new one.

will you?

Even when the new one is announced it will be one month minimum before you can get your mitts on it and it will be almost twice the price.

Even if it were announced at the end of this month ( it won't be) you wouldn't get one much before August and at a lot more money;;)

More likely waiting will mean until OCT realistically before you can actually get one

[YosemiteJunkie]

will you?

Even when the new one is announced it will be one month minimum before you can get your mitts on it and it will be almost twice the price.

Even if it were announced at the end of this month ( it won't be) you wouldn't get one much before August and at a lot more money;;)

More likely waiting will mean until OCT realistically before you can actually get one
I'll probably cave in anyway. My internal delima comes in that I am on a fixed income so this upgrade will probably be my last for a very long time. One more body (full frame), one more lens (longer telephoto) and one more printer then I'm done. But you are right. Realistically I'd be screwing myself out of a lot of good shooting, (not that the 20D isn't good. It's just old). I'm going to have to put some serious pondering into your comments about the time frame.

[limpid]

I know this is a forum for digital photography, but whith all of you people talking about and discussing a light handy full frame slr I simply have to ask: why not analog?

[JohnnyG]

I know this is a forum for digital photography, but whith all of you people talking about and discussing a light handy full frame slr I simply have to ask: why not analog?
You mean film?

[elysium]

You mean film?
Which is what I was shooting till yesterday. Film worked just as well as a 5D to be honest. My only grip was having to use up the film before switching. Either way I found it was stupidly rewarding. 5D is just quicker and easier.

I couldnt be bothered to wait, im more than impressed. Good luck to the people waiting. :)

[aiea1]

Time flies fast , Fall will be here in no time and so will the new upgraded 5D,
I will wait till then to pull the trigger on a FF camera, until then I will just suffer with my 30D :)

[JohnnyG]

Which is what I was shooting till yesterday. Film worked just as well as a 5D to be honest. My only grip was having to use up the film before switching. Either way I found it was stupidly rewarding. 5D is just quicker and easier.

I couldnt be bothered to wait, im more than impressed. Good luck to the people waiting. :)
I shot film for many more years than I'll ever shoot digital! I love digital though and wouldn't go back. No way!

But, to each, their own!

[I Simonius]

I simply have to ask: why not analog?

er.. film:rolleyes:
(wet and annoying - like screaming babies):lol:

[mattograph]

Anytime I get nostalgic for film, I hard boil an egg, smash it up, and shove it up my nose. That gets the smell about right.

Then I soak my hands in bleach for five minutes so my skin gets nice and dried out.

Then I go into a closet, shut the door, and stand in the dark for 10 minutes.

Memories!!!!

[weka2000]

Anytime I get nostalgic for film, I hard boil an egg, smash it up, and shove it up my nose. That gets the smell about right.

Then I soak my hands in bleach for five minutes so my skin gets nice and dried out.

Then I go into a closet, shut the door, and stand in the dark for 10 minutes.

Memories!!!!

LOL classic

[John_TX]

You mean film?

What's this film stuff you speak of???

[I Simonius]

Anytime I get nostalgic for film, I hard boil an egg, smash it up, and shove it up my nose. That gets the smell about right.

Then I soak my hands in bleach for five minutes so my skin gets nice and dried out.

Then I go into a closet, shut the door, and stand in the dark for 10 minutes.

Memories!!!!

ahh yes - so sweet - NOT:lol:

What's this film stuff you speak of???

It's dry stiff plasticky stuff that scratches really easily and you mustn't touch it or look at it in daylight. It only comes in short lengths (about the equivalent of a 256MB CF card) and requires lots of chemicals to be poured over it in total darkness. [Has to be done by a man called Max Spielman;-)]

Worst of all you can't get to see the results until you have done all that, no histogram to see if the exposure's on, or to see if your composition was right.

It was great!:rolleyes:

[Robert16]

New 5D !
Is it out yet? No? :rolleyes: OK, I'll check back in another six months.;)

[I Simonius]

New 5D !
Is it out yet? No? :rolleyes: OK, I'll check back in another six months.;)

Sept 16 it will be leaked- official announcement on the 22nd:D

[personalexpressions]

Okay, I'm not a big fan of all the rumor stuff... but I am eagerly awaiting the new version of the 5D, now I know I won't get my wish but I really really hope that they don't increase the MP count, keep it at 12.8 and make it crystal clear at 6400iso... now that would be good. Who really NEEDS 17 or 18 megapixel??? Unless you are doing huge commercial work it's over kill... I don't know a lot of people that need that, all it would do is slow down the processing and take up more drive space.
Personally if we could get 5 or 6+fps and a better autofocus for low light and I'd be very happy. The 5D Rocks but a few minor adjustments and it would be a killer camera.

[limpid]

I'm sick and tired of my 350d, low res and terrible viewfinder, so i happily welcome a new 5d, as long as I've got to spend on it. When i get my new fullframe wonder, hopefully by the end of this year, I think I will do all I can to wreck the 350d by doing stunt stuff, like rolling down a steep muddy hill while trying to take photos. And for my culturally enlightened periods i will use my minolta sr-t 101, with a glass of red wine nearby.

[Chandler.]

ACTUAL NEWS: The instant rebates that come out on the 18th knock $300 off of the 5D. When it dips under $2000, I think a lot of people will buy.

[Chandler.]

And the link:
http://www.thecameracorner.com/wordpress2/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/spring-program-2.jpg

[I Simonius]

One thing I have never done I realise is state exactly what I would want my camera for, i.e. what task.

What I am most interested in is Landscape (http://digital-finger.smugmug.com/gallery/2762041_7KKfR#295603495_8teRa) and so this is what I would want the next 5D to be specifically geared toward (in my ideal world);)

So I do not need fast fps or battery grip etc but what I do need is a camera that is a light as possible, has as much resolution as possible and has as clear a VF as possible.
i.e. That's the 1dsMK3 except for the wheight

I'd also like more custom modes (3) and I'd like a CFn so that when I set e.g. partial metering in manual mode but then change to Av with evaluated metering , on returning to manual I want it to remember that it is using partial metering ( or spopot or whatever) and to rmember that AV has evaluative

I find that I switch back and forth between Custom mode, AV and Manual a lot, and rapidly as the light is cahnging fast. I don't know about other countries but trying to catch every angle under a certain light in the UK is a frantic business sometimes.

Now I imagine that most 5Ds are bought by portrait and weding photogs but none of the above wuld preclude it being ideal foir tem either (if you need 10fps for a weddding then get a 1D3;-))

[lowcrust]

And the link:
http://www.thecameracorner.com/wordpress2/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/spring-program-2.jpg

That's a really incredibly reliable source you whipped up there Chandler... :rolleyes:

Canon never pre-announce rebates (or other news for that matter), and you know it.

[I Simonius]

and another thing....

I would love to have savable settings to the established modes (they kinda do this anyway in thatthey will rmemeber the fstop in Av and the speed in Tv):rather than to separate Custom modes i.e. be able to custimiose and save the settings in Av, Tv and M (metering mode, last aperture used, shooting mode etc.

[mattograph]

I DON'T want it to be an SD card only platform. That would be like raising the price another couple 100 bucks.

[I Simonius]

I DON'T want it to be an SD card only platform. That would be like raising the price another couple 100 bucks.


did someone suggest it might be???

[mattograph]

Yes, the engineers who brought us the SD only XSi.......

[I Simonius]

Yes, the engineers who brought us the SD only XSi.......

sorry I'M completely in the dark as to what you're referring to:confused:

[Balliolman]

When is the next big trade show, Stateside, which could likely be the venue for a 5D mk II launch? :confused:

[mattograph]

sorry I'M completely in the dark as to what you're referring to:confused:

Sorry.

The new Rebel XSi aka 450 uses an SD card only. No cf card.

[lowcrust]

When is the next big trade show, Stateside, which could likely be the venue for a 5D mk II launch? :confused:

It's probably not going to be launched stateside but probably (meaning hopefully) at Photokina which takes place in Cologne/Köln, Germany.

[Balliolman]

It's probably not going to be launched stateside but probably (meaning hopefully) at Photokina which takes place in Cologne/Köln, Germany.


Thanks, Pal. So that would be September time?