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mattograph

8th of July 2008 (Tue), 21:47

The only two things that the D700 offers that are the least bit intriguing are their fantastic display and the af system. Since I think the the the 1D Mark IIIn announcement accompanies the 5D Mark II, there is no telling what we will get, although I would bet that its comes in around $3499, and the Mark IIIn jumps to 4500-5000.

Of course, I just ate 10 bowls of cocoa puffs in 20 minutes, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt!

TheHoff

9th of July 2008 (Wed), 00:18

Of course, I just ate 10 bowls of cocoa puffs in 20 minutes, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt!

I knew I liked you for some reason. Don't get married; this sort of thing ends.

gjl711

9th of July 2008 (Wed), 08:32

Hmmm.... Coco Puffs...

scotthidley

9th of July 2008 (Wed), 17:16

I just ordered a 5D today, so everybody should expect the new version announcement within a day or so :)

jparniawski

9th of July 2008 (Wed), 17:38

I just ordered a 5D today, so everybody should expect the new version announcement within a day or so :)

I, too, am about to finally pull the trigger. I've had it saved in my B&H shopping cart for a month now and unless an announcement is made that the new models will be out and available by the 2nd week of Sept., I'm gonna click the checkout button. I am going on vacation and have been wanting a 5D since my last trip where I got to try one out.

Yohan Pamudji

9th of July 2008 (Wed), 18:04

Oddly enough I'm enjoying the 5D the more I use it. I got it a month ago as a stopgap, but what an awesome stopgap it's turned out to be! The kit price with 24-105 was just too good to turn down. I still want to see a Canon equivalent to the D700 very soon, but the 5D's awesomeness has eased the pain of waiting. If the 5D just had pro AF and an LCD usable in bright daylight, it would be a camera I would continue to use until it died and Canon no longer had parts for it. I really enjoy the images it produces and the general experience that much, despite the shortcomings in other areas.

scotthidley

9th of July 2008 (Wed), 18:04

I, too, am about to finally pull the trigger. I've had it saved in my B&H shopping cart for a month now and unless an announcement is made that the new models will be out and available by the 2nd week of Sept., I'm gonna click the checkout button. I am going on vacation and have been wanting a 5D since my last trip where I got to try one out.

I also went through bh. I really don't expect any announcements before the rebate ends, and I wanted to save a little extra. I'm having it shipped to my parents, so it'll be waiting for me beginning of August. I made the rule for myself that I wouldn't buy a new release until it had a few months to show all the bugs were sorted out. As I'll be in europe for only another year, I wanted to come back with an upgrade after the visit too.

JohnnyG

9th of July 2008 (Wed), 18:27

Of course, I just ate 10 bowls of cocoa puffs in 20 minutes, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt!
Cool:cool:

mattograph

9th of July 2008 (Wed), 21:03

Cool:cool:

Walked into the local camera store....

Picked Up a 5D......

Put it down.......

Walked out......

and came home for some cocoa puffs!

I Simonius

12th of July 2008 (Sat), 06:13

I just ordered a 5D today, so everybody should expect the new version announcement within a day or so :)

sounds about right!

Oddly enough I'm enjoying the 5D the more I use it. If the 5D just had pro AF and an LCD usable in bright daylight, it would be a camera I would continue to use until it died and Canon no longer had parts for it.

....and a VF like the 1Ds3.. I still struggle to see all edges of the frame in one go especially in portrait orientation (cos Ive got a big snout and glasses);)

I Simonius

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 14:28

Well I can see this being on the mark... not ideal but not bad either;)

Canon EOS-5D Mk II's full launch leaked?
A further leak of the often rumored Canon EOS-5D Mark II has appeared today that suggests the camera will be Canon's most low-light capable model to date. The sequel is now thought to have a new 16-megapixel, full-frame sensor that supports up to ISO 25,600, matching the same performance as the Nikon D3 in very dark environments. The figure may be just for marketing's sake, the alleged source warns. Shots from the D3 at such a high range often exhibit very visible noise.
The camera would lack the live previews on its LCD that are present on the Rebel series but would make up for it through an extra-sharp display: the screen would have a VGA (640x480) resolution that would help in reviewing shots. Other additions would include continuous shooting at six frames per second as well as an enclosure fully sealed against rain and other splashes.

However, the camera would also still go without the full autofocus capabilities of the EOS-1D Mark III in addition to other extras such as fast UDMA CompactFlash card support, HDMI video output, and more features that have appeared in competitors or in some of Canon's own cameras.

The rumor has yet to be corroborated and contradicts earlier reports, but is unusually detailed and estimates that the new 5D variant would launch on September 8th for $2,400 in a body-only kit, falling in line with the advent of the Photokina expo in Germany the same month.

AdamJL

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 15:09

^oh dear. That was a DPR post that got picked up by "news" sites, then linked back to the DPR post as evidence.

IMO, it's rubbish. It'll have Live View.

sm1rf

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 17:31

^oh dear. That was a DPR post that got picked up by "news" sites, then linked back to the DPR post as evidence.

IMO, it's rubbish. It'll have Live View.

Must agree here, no-one is going to release a middle to high end DSLR without liveview in the current market. Just won't happen.:(

I've heard from a friend of a friend who's brothers cousins dads brothers sons friend of a friend said the new 5DmkII will be released on the 1st August and will feature Liveview, 16.2MP full frame sensor with 25.600 ISO rating and 5fps frame rate. It will also shoot in crop mode with ef-s lenses fitted and then shoot at 8fps. It will record to CF and SD and run on a new li-ion battery pack it will also be weather sealed and will coincide with a mkII version of the infamous 17-55 IS 2.8 which will be designated an L be fully weather sealed and come with a Hood as standard.
;)

ulrikft

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 17:38

won't the mirror **** up ef-s lenses? :P

sm1rf

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 17:47

won't the mirror **** up ef-s lenses? :P

No because it's been designed to work with ef-s like the Nikon D3 was designed to work with their DX equivalent!

mattograph

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 21:33

Wow -- my 10-22mm on a full frame??????

Trainboy

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 22:08

Wow -- my 10-22mm on a full frame??????
Happy thoughts :)

I Simonius

14th of July 2008 (Mon), 03:44

IMO, it's rubbish. It'll have Live View.

bah:p

It will also shoot in crop mode with ef-s lenses fitted and then shoot at 8fps.

nah:p

won't the mirror **** up ef-s lenses? :P

yup;)

No because it's been designed to work with ef-s like the Nikon D3 was designed to work with their DX equivalent!

nah:p

Wow -- my 10-22mm on a full frame??????

nah:p

AdamJL

14th of July 2008 (Mon), 03:55

^ if there was ever evidence that you should just let this thread die, Simon, that's it.

fr3d

14th of July 2008 (Mon), 05:59

It will when the 5D II is anounced.

sm1rf

14th of July 2008 (Mon), 16:04

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamJL View Post

IMO, it's rubbish. It'll have Live View.
bah
Your wrong

Quote:
Originally Posted by sm1rf View Post
It will also shoot in crop mode with ef-s lenses fitted and then shoot at 8fps.
nah
Your wrong

Quote:
Originally Posted by ulrikft View Post
won't the mirror **** up ef-s lenses? :P
yup
Your wrong

Quote:
Originally Posted by sm1rf View Post
No because it's been designed to work with ef-s like the Nikon D3 was designed to work with their DX equivalent!
nah
Your wrong

Quote:
Originally Posted by mattograph View Post
Wow -- my 10-22mm on a full frame
nah
Your wrong

and did I mention Your wrong it's a top source I'm telling you!;)

mattograph

14th of July 2008 (Mon), 16:13

I feel like I am wrong. Just wrong.

JohnnyG

14th of July 2008 (Mon), 18:56

sm1rf

15th of July 2008 (Tue), 17:37

LOL! I have to concede sorry, but I am right......;)

I Simonius

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 04:17

^ if there was ever evidence that you should just let this thread die, Simon, that's it.

skin of its teeth mate - skin of its teeth!:lol:

It will when the 5D II is anounced.

Perrrzakkerly!:D

I Simonius

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 04:23

The whole ethos of the 5D is entry into the FF world. Why would they ruin that by adding ef-s capability?

Why would they kill their 40D range by adding crop lens cabability to the 5D???

There' two good reasons right there why ther'll be no crop capability - there are others but if I divulged them I'd have to deaded you;)

Sadly I have to concede they probably will add Livepoo,:cry: I mean liveview;)

I think we pretty much know the specs now - it's just a question of waiting for the sept announcement:rolleyes:

mattograph

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 08:49

OK, lets get focused people. Rebates are behind us, and we can get serious about announcements. I see something this week as a prelude to the olympics.

ulrikft

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 09:02

The 5d MKII is not a sports camera (i guess), so I don't think the olympics is relevant, most likely Canon would wait till after the olympics to save their thunder? or?

fr3d

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 09:05

The 5d MKII is not a sports camera (i guess), so I don't think the olympics is relevant, most likely Canon would wait till after the olympics to save their thunder? or?

So you say the 5D II is not a sports camera ... so why would the Olympics take away any of the its thunder? If someone wants to buy a Camera
he is not going to watch the Olympics 24/7.

ulrikft

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 09:20

So you say the 5D II is not a sports camera ... so why would the Olympics take away any of the its thunder? If someone wants to buy a Camera
he is not going to watch the Olympics 24/7.

Media will be filled with news about the olympics, that is all. They will "lessen" the impact of a new camera, but I can be mistaken of course.

mattograph

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 09:36

Canon is an olympics sponsor...... good time to kick off a camera, with all of the eyes watching.

gjl711

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 10:38

Canon is an olympics sponsor...... good time to kick off a camera, with all of the eyes watching.
I don’t think Canon is going to use the Olympics to kick off a new camera. It’s the wrong kind of audience. I expect Canon to hit hard with the new P/S cameras, printers, and the XSi-450 and the 1000D. They have a huge audience of regular folk looking to get some kick a$$ pictures and they are going to use their Olympic dollars on the segment of their product line which makes the most $$$. High end SLR equipment is probably not it.

gieppetto

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 11:55

Sadly I have to concede they probably will add Livepoo,:cry: I mean liveview;)

If you can turn live view off, what's the problem with it?

mattograph

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 12:45

I don’t think Canon is going to use the Olympics to kick off a new camera. It’s the wrong kind of audience. I expect Canon to hit hard with the new P/S cameras, printers, and the XSi-450 and the 1000D. They have a huge audience of regular folk looking to get some kick a$$ pictures and they are going to use their Olympic dollars on the segment of their product line which makes the most $$$. High end SLR equipment is probably not it.

Perhaps you are right. However, it might be a great time to create buzz around a Mark IIIn, with 12 fps and 64 point autofocus system.:)

Colorblinded

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 13:15

64 AF points? :lol:

DozerLYP

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 13:40

it's still not out. thank god i wasn't holding my breath.

gjl711

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 21:13

Perhaps you are right. However, it might be a great time to create buzz around a Mark IIIn, with 12 fps and 64 point autofocus system.:) Canon never seems to do that and I don't know why. Creating a buzz in certain venues like this forum is a great tool to build excitement and suck. Canon just sort of pops up at the show.

ptomsu

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 01:32

Interesting speculations here :lol:

fr3d

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 14:35

Interesting speculations here :lol:

With emphasis on "speculation" :rolleyes:

Robert16

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 15:21

still say it's gonna be pink :D

mattograph

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 15:22

still say it's gonna be pink :D

Nice. I'll take two.

jaybird

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 15:37

still say it's gonna be pink :D

Well, at least the basic model. Everyone who has their own personal Canon rep willing to spill classified industrial secrets knows that the high-end version will have tassels on the included camera strap as well. ;)

Robert16

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 15:39

I should hope so. Sparkly ones of course

mattograph

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 15:40

Well, at least the basic model. Everyone who has their own personal Canon rep willing to spill classified industrial secrets knows that the high-end version will have tassels on the included camera strap as well. ;)

Oh, oh..... I want a bell too. One I can ring with my thumb, so I can just give it a jingle instead of saying "smile"!

Meaty0

24th of July 2008 (Thu), 01:09

It's nice to come back after a few months break and find some things haven't changed. My favourite thread is STILL going.

So my 5D hasn't been superseded yet! I'm not very surprised. I think Canon realise that they can't upgrade the current 5D without causing suffering to one of the other models in their range, so have elected to put it off as long as they can. Why should they anyway? Nikon still don't have anything comparable; but that might change very soon. Sony is likely to be serious competition in the not-too-distant future also.

VTSHEP1

24th of July 2008 (Thu), 12:31

ulrikft

24th of July 2008 (Thu), 12:58

mattograph

24th of July 2008 (Thu), 14:12

did you miss the d700? :P

I'm gonna predict the following.....

You will be able to walk into a camera store and buy a 5D Mark II long before you can do the same with the D700.

Yohan Pamudji

24th of July 2008 (Thu), 14:50

I'm gonna predict the following.....

You will be able to walk into a camera store and buy a 5D Mark II long before you can do the same with the D700.

Supposedly the D700 is shipping right now. Doesn't mean you'll be able to walk into any store and pick one up as they're the hot item right now (Canon has the same problem with their higher end stuff too when they first launch), but they should be out within the next few days. Long delays between announcement and shipment used to be a Nikon trait, but not since the last few releases.

mattograph

24th of July 2008 (Thu), 14:58

Supposedly the D700 is shipping right now. Doesn't mean you'll be able to walk into any store and pick one up as they're the hot item right now (Canon has the same problem with their higher end stuff too when they first launch), but they should be out within the next few days. Long delays between announcement and shipment used to be a Nikon trait, but not since the last few releases.

Hey, we threw logic out the window 50 pages ago..... Just trying to inject some hope among the masses.:)

davidinjp

24th of July 2008 (Thu), 18:21

I just read thru Canon's 1&2Q earnings report from this AM (the on the fly transcript). Nothing i could see eluded to any SLR releases but the preliminary transcript is riddled with sentances like, "We expect to further (indiscernible) by launching new product the vigorates our soon in such of group priority development in the money structure."

LOL

Maybe new printer paper and maybe even more P&S models that are even more just like their previous models, but with face recognition! :)

Supposedly the D700 is shipping right now. Doesn't mean you'll be able to walk into any store and pick one up as they're the hot item right now (Canon has the same problem with their higher end stuff too when they first launch), but they should be out within the next few days. Long delays between announcement and shipment used to be a Nikon trait, but not since the last few releases.

D700 started deliveries to customers and stores today in Japan.

Meaty0

24th of July 2008 (Thu), 20:02

did you miss the d700? :P

Yup! I sure did! I've been livin' under a rock for the last 3 months while studying Photoshop.

But having looked at it, I must say, I'm underwhelmed. It still won't compete with the current 5D on price. But it will compete with any 5D Mk II;)

Watch out Mr Canon, the "competitive hounds" have been unleashed! They have your scent and they're headin' your way!

Busto

25th of July 2008 (Fri), 06:27

If I had the cash, I would jump ship for sure. The D700 looks beyond awesome.

Colorblinded

25th of July 2008 (Fri), 09:06

Wouldn't be worth it monetarily, in terms of hassle, and lack of comparable lens choices for me to switch. Not to mention switching for the D700 is silly because sometime in the future you might just say the same thing and want to switch to Canon (or maybe someone else will become big by then!).

mattograph

25th of July 2008 (Fri), 09:21

If I had the cash, I would jump ship for sure. The D700 looks beyond awesome.

*looking six months in the future, as posted on the Nikon forums*

If I had the cash, I would jump ship for sure. The 5D Mark II looks beyond awesome.

davidinjp

25th of July 2008 (Fri), 10:27

Wouldn't be worth it monetarily, in terms of hassle, and lack of comparable lens choices for me to switch. ....

How recently have you checked Nikon's lens line-up? They released 9 new lenses since August 23, 2007. And rumors of a new batch of 4 or 5 mostly killer primes for this August/September! Some pretty nice glass coming from Nikon recently.

TheHoff

25th of July 2008 (Fri), 10:49

Nikkor primes have always been outstanding; bring it on.

VTSHEP1

25th of July 2008 (Fri), 10:54

A better translation from their mid year earnings report, nothing earthshattering, but they are saying the plan to release SLRs in the second half (of this year).

"In the second half, we plan to actively continue launching high value added compact digital and digital SLR cameras.....As for SLR cameras, in addition to the two new highly competitive models introduced in the first half, we expect to further increase our sales by launching appealing new products that reflect our strengths in areas such as proprietary device development and manufacturing."

ulrikft

25th of July 2008 (Fri), 10:55

I just want 14-16mp, weather sealing, d700/d3-like iso-capabilities and spot-metering pr af-point. I think canon will fix that, I trust in canon :P DO NOT LET ME DOWN! CANON!

JohnnyG

25th of July 2008 (Fri), 10:57

*looking six months in the future, as posted on the Nikon forums*

If I had the cash, I would jump ship for sure. The 5D Mark II looks beyond awesome.
Agreed IF we ever get the 5D!

mattograph

25th of July 2008 (Fri), 11:08

Wow, I TOTALLY missed this........

CANON U.S.A. EXPANDS ITS LINE OF DIGITAL RADIOGRAPHY OFFERINGS WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF THE CANON CXDI-60G PORTABLE DIGITAL RADIOGRAPHY SYSTEM

Maybe they make a battery grip for it...... wonder what the ISO performance is.......

I just want to buy SOMETHING!!!!!

Yohan Pamudji

25th of July 2008 (Fri), 11:15

How recently have you checked Nikon's lens line-up? They released 9 new lenses since August 23, 2007. And rumors of a new batch of 4 or 5 mostly killer primes for this August/September! Some pretty nice glass coming from Nikon recently.

Wake me up when they have a 35L equivalent :) I know, kinda crazy to hang your hat on one lens, but until Nikon have a similar lens I can't really give switching a serious thought. The 35L has unexpectedly become my main walk-around lens when not on assignment, and is in use the majority of the time. Canon and Nikon are more or less equal in all other lens areas that I'm currently interested in (not doing much in ultra-wide or super-tele territory where Nikon and Canon respectively have advantages), but in wide large aperture primes Nikon are still lagging, and that's what keeps me from even considering the switch.

I Simonius

28th of July 2008 (Mon), 05:40

If I had the cash, I would jump ship for sure. The D700 looks beyond awesome.

I cannot envisage how jumping ship would in any way improve my photography, so no matter whgat canon do I'm staying put, all I really really want is a 1ds3 VF and more muggy pixoids (in a 5D size and wheight bodice)

I just want 14-16mp, weather sealing, d700/d3-like iso-capabilities and spot-metering pr af-point. I think canon will fix that, I trust in canon :P DO NOT LET ME DOWN! CANON!

and the 1Ds3 VF s'il vous plait monsieur canon:D

Agreed IF we ever get the 5D!

[sings] "it won't be long , it won't be long yeah" [beatles;)]

I Simonius

28th of July 2008 (Mon), 05:45

If you can turn live view off, what's the problem with it?

It smells!:evil:

64 AF points? :lol:

mmm nice;)

It's nice to come back after a few months break and find some things haven't changed. My favourite thread is STILL going.

good innit?:lol:

So my 5D hasn't been superseded yet! I'm not very surprised. I think Canon realise that they can't upgrade the current 5D without causing suffering to one of the other models in their range, so have elected to put it off as long as they can. Why should they anyway? Nikon still don't have anything comparable; but that might change very soon. Sony is likely to be serious competition in the not-too-distant future also.

you have hit the hail on the ned - I totally agree;):D

Meaty0

28th of July 2008 (Mon), 20:18

you have hit the hail on the ned - I totally agree;):D

I totally agree with your agreement.

September you think?

MichaelAlan_Photo

29th of July 2008 (Tue), 09:54

You know, I jumped ship back in the Spring of 2007 from Nikon to Canon...
Why? Nikon wasn't releasing anything new to the professional market. I was the owner of their D100 and D200 systems. I had the D100 from way back in 2001 and it still worked like a champ. My issue was that Nikon stuff was always out of stock. They released the D200 but good luck getting extra batteries. Their flashes rock but good luck getting the external SB-8A(Model #??) battery pack... Pair that up with them STILL making crop sensors that are CCD and in the 6mprange. All new models were catering to the lower end with the D40, D70, D80, etc... just pissed me off. I just started my business and could not afford their D2X or D2Xs models so I was in sort of a limbo.

As a business decision, I went to Canon because even their Rebels have a CMOS sensor and their stuff was always in stock! If something breaks, then I can get it immediately! That is a smart business decision. On top of that, they already had full frame sensors for years and they kept releasing new camera bodies and got with the program as far as technology is concerned. Also, their low noise at high ISOs was to die for... Much better than Nikon. AF wise too, Canon has them beat.

Now mind you, that was my mentality for making the switch. I will give credit where credit is due and say that Nikon's new lineup of the D3, D300 and D700 are impressive.

Now Canon, is releasing the lower end bodies while Nikon finally stepped up to the plate and is playing with the big boys...

Moral of the story, it is all one big circle. Canon will come out with another knockout that will put Nikon on their butt for a while.. In the meantime, Nikon will update their lower end bodies and then come out with an answer to Canon's mammoth (after 4 years! haha)

Kimberwhip

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 05:06

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/kimberwhip/mark2.jpg

FlyingPhotog

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 05:28

Someone's been busy with Cut n Paste... ;)

Yohan Pamudji

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 09:29

Worst. Photoshop. Ever.

JAcosta

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 10:23

Worst. Photoshop. Ever.

You clearly havent seen my attempts then ;)

mattograph

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 10:28

He even put them in the wrong order. :)

MichaelAlan_Photo

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 10:33

... not to mention that he used a rebel body for the Mark II.

mattograph

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 11:35

GADS!!!!

Busto

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 12:55

Worst. Photoshop. Ever.
QFT.

dadCameraGuy

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 13:01

QFT.

Ok, clueless here... which QFT does that mean? http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/QFT

EricFry

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 13:02

"Quoted For Truth"

FlyingPhotog

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 13:03

I'd guess "Quite F-ing True..." only because I didn't see one that said "Quit Fiddling (with the) TV" ;)

EricFry

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 13:04

I'd guess "Quite F-ing True..." only because I didn't see one that said "Quit Fiddling (with the) TV" ;)

Nope.

Kimberwhip

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 15:15

Worst. Photoshop. Ever.

You guys are totally wrong, it was my best MS paint! :)

Busto

31st of July 2008 (Thu), 05:27

Ok, clueless here... which QFT does that mean? http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/QFT
Quoted For Truth. :)

EricFry

31st of July 2008 (Thu), 09:27

Quoted For Truth. :)

Ooooh ninja'd by 17 hours.

hah

danielyamseng

31st of July 2008 (Thu), 23:16

Yeah.

I Simonius

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 03:41

I totally agree with your agreement.

September you think?

That's what I've always said...
(crosses fingers - and legs):eek:
but I will be happy to get an announcement before then..
Still won't hit the shops before Sept though...ahem..;)

You guys are totally wrong, it was my best MS paint! :)

do it again and have it on my desk by the morning!!;):p:lol:

vreeke

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 14:22

i like 5D plus 8fps only and burst RAW 30 frames and i never need an other camera

Trainboy

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 14:27

i like 5D plus 8fps only and burst RAW 30 frames and i never need an other camera
Don't forget that tack-sharp 17-200 F/2.8L IS that has the IQ of a prime ;)

Yohan Pamudji

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 14:37

Don't forget that tack-sharp 17-200 F/2.8L IS that has the IQ of a prime ;)

Does it come with a gym membership?

Trainboy

5th of August 2008 (Tue), 02:24

And a coffee dispenser.
That requires a grip though =0

wallybud

5th of August 2008 (Tue), 13:46

Does it come with a gym membership?

HAHAH :lol:!

I Simonius

6th of August 2008 (Wed), 18:29

I hope they bring back A-Dep!

Upgraded A-dep , that is,

Think aboot it - there's no easy way to tell whether teh foregound and infinity are all in focus with ea A UWA but for a camera that gets used a lot ofr landscape it would make perfect sense to reintrduce the A-Dep, but just a more relaible version

I loved it in the 20/30D series and I wann it in my next 5D;):D:p

I Simonius

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 03:39

So.. we're here at last..Aug 26 or sept 18 ? we'll see but it's so close as to make little or no diference

But I am sorely downcrested by the reports that all we'll be getting is a camera wil the same amount of MPs

I know MPs aren't everything but I won't be upgrading if there's no sugnificant increae -what I need is more detail.. not a lot just A2 size...;):p

Right, well we know it's coming very very soon .. but will it have been worth the (considerable) wait?

blackshadow

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 03:47

Don't forget that tack-sharp 17-200 F/2.8L IS that has the IQ of a prime ;)

Nikon are bringing out an f1.8 version of this lens.

I Simonius

10th of August 2008 (Sun), 06:01

Nikon are bringing out an f1.8 version of this lens.

yaaawn:p

getting back OT.....;)

5D mk2 so near and yet so far - 16 days to go and the kitty is empty - oh woe is me - well I wouldnt be able to afford it until next year anyway - but verily I teetereth upon the brink of not being able to contain the excitement...:lol:

ulrikft

10th of August 2008 (Sun), 07:03

I can afford it now AND i want it now :P Let me sleeeeeeeeeeep for 16 days :P

I Simonius

14th of August 2008 (Thu), 14:55

Strikes me the main reason it's taken so long to get out a mk2 is that it is really hard to better the IQ of the 5D;)

gooble

14th of August 2008 (Thu), 15:15

Strikes me the main reason it's taken so long to get out a mk2 is that it is really hard to better the IQ of the 5D;)

But Canon hasn't really increased the IQ in the latest releases have they? They've added more pixels while basically keeping IQ and noise the same.

FlyingPhotog

14th of August 2008 (Thu), 15:17

But Canon hasn't really increased the IQ in the latest releases have they? They've added more pixels while basically keeping IQ and noise the same.

Have they released another "prosumer" dSLR that's full frame since the 5D?

Don't think so... ;)

gooble

14th of August 2008 (Thu), 15:28

Have they released another "prosumer" dSLR that's full frame since the 5D?

Don't think so... ;)

I'm not sure I get your point.

I'm not saying Canon doesn't want a IQ improvement in the 5D II but based on the latest releases of all their other models, they haven't done so.

FlyingPhotog

14th of August 2008 (Thu), 15:33

I'm not sure I get your point.

I'm not saying Canon doesn't want a IQ improvement in the 5D II but based on the latest releases of all their other models, they haven't done so.

I was under the impression that this thread was related to a replacement for the 5D, no?

AFAIK, there has only been one other full frame body released since the 5D which would be the 1DsMkIII. Now I've not used a 1Ds but I've seen resultant images from one and I think Canon raised the bar significantly in IQ.

My point though, is that there hasn't been another FF body released targeted at the same market segment as the 5D so there's no logical way to say if Canon have improved or not. You're comparing Apples to Air...

When and if a 5DMkII (or 3D/7D...whatever) comes out, then and only then can people say if Canon have improved the IQ at this market point.

Trying to compare the 5D to a 30D or 40D is (IMO) silly...

gooble

14th of August 2008 (Thu), 22:41

I was under the impression that this thread was related to a replacement for the 5D, no?

AFAIK, there has only been one other full frame body released since the 5D which would be the 1DsMkIII. Now I've not used a 1Ds but I've seen resultant images from one and I think Canon raised the bar significantly in IQ.

My point though, is that there hasn't been another FF body released targeted at the same market segment as the 5D so there's no logical way to say if Canon have improved or not. You're comparing Apples to Air...

When and if a 5DMkII (or 3D/7D...whatever) comes out, then and only then can people say if Canon have improved the IQ at this market point.

Trying to compare the 5D to a 30D or 40D is (IMO) silly...

I don't know if there was any significant improvement in IQ from the 1Ds II to the mark III. It doesn't seem that way from any reviews I've read or from any anecdotal evidence.

It's not like I'm saying the 1Ds III has bad image quality. The mark II had great image quality and the mark III is just as good only with more pixels.

All I'm saying is that Canon has done nothing in the past two years that would indicate that the 5D mark II is gonna have remarkable improvements in IQ because they haven't released a single camera in that time that did so to its predesessor. That's not to say that I don't hope they will. I just don't know.

ulrikft

15th of August 2008 (Fri), 05:26

the 1ds mark III is quite a lot better than the 1ds mark II :P

Yohan Pamudji

15th of August 2008 (Fri), 16:30

All I'm saying is that Canon has done nothing in the past two years that would indicate that the 5D mark II is gonna have remarkable improvements in IQ because they haven't released a single camera in that time that did so to its predesessor. That's not to say that I don't hope they will. I just don't know.

You're forgetting the 1DIII vs. 1DII then. The 1DIII made quite remarkable improvements in IQ over the 1DII/N. If you could get it to focus, that is :rolleyes: Nobody knows what Canon will do, but since the 5D's sensor was basically a 1DII sensor extended to FF, even if they just took the 1DIII sensor and made it FF it'd be a nice improvement over the current 5D sensor. Let's hope they do more than that, but the point is that they'd really have to mess up (push up the MP count too high, etc.) to not improve the IQ in the 5D replacement.

Blue S2

15th of August 2008 (Fri), 17:20

Actually, if the 5D kept its 8 micron pixels, and moved up to 16mp based on the more efficient design used in the 1DsIII...but with 14 or 16bit processing...that would basically make it just like the digital MF backs. (not talking about the newest releases!) Slightly smaller, but IQ should be roughly there. The only thing the backs would have in IQ would be resolving power due to size.

I think that is a decent upgrade in its IQ that would make it worth it. Especially when an 18mp MF back costs roughly 12k, and the cameras themselves cost about 3k. For a 35mm camera putting out similar results in a smaller package...that would be very appealing to a lot of people im sure.

illusionest

17th of August 2008 (Sun), 01:47

c'mon, either sometime this week or next week... we want FF dSLR! :D
(canon always release their cameras second last week of august)

I Simonius

18th of August 2008 (Mon), 04:18

But Canon hasn't really increased the IQ in the latest releases have they? They've added more pixels while basically keeping IQ and noise the same.

That's exactly what I mean;)

I Simonius

18th of August 2008 (Mon), 04:21

Now I've not used a 1Ds but I've seen resultant images from one and I think Canon raised the bar significantly in IQ.
.

Ive tried it (1Ds3) and just wasnt impressed.(except by the VF)

There were mor pixels yes, but that just equals bigger pictures, there was no improvements in noise or the quality of the image AFAICS

danielyamseng

18th of August 2008 (Mon), 06:21

I guess maybe due to the expensive labor cost in japan, they can't bundle more features to the new cam

I Simonius

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 04:40

I guess maybe due to the expensive labor cost in japan, they can't bundle more features to the new cam

well one Im hoping to see is 'Auto ISO' possibly as a cfn and more custom modes to save it to

Remember though that 'features' does not equate to better IQ, it just help the photog get the shots, the IQ potential is pretty much fixed, assuming good technique

symbolphoto

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 06:52

I Simonius. 5,416 posts. 4,319 from this thread.

Dude, this is way worse than bumping a for sale thread. You bump your thread daily.

fi20100

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 07:55

I Simonius. 5,416 posts. 4,319 from this thread.

Dude, this is way worse than bumping a for sale thread. You bump your thread daily.

I'm not sure how you math is, but this thread has just barely 1900 posts... and I Simonius is only responisible for 475 of them ;)

mattograph

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 08:28

Everybody's a little edgy. Canon better bring the new hardware before we start eating our young.

fi20100

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 08:41

Everybody's a little edgy. Canon better bring the new hardware before we start eating our young.

LOL :) I can't even afford one now... and I'm still edgy :D

jaybird

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 09:15

I Simonius. 5,416 posts. 4,319 from this thread.

Dude, this is way worse than bumping a for sale thread. You bump your thread daily.

You had better hope the title fairy doesn't see that one.

Keith R

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 16:29

Dude, this is way worse than bumping a for sale thread. You bump your thread daily.
So you're actually admitting that you can't see the difference between actively contributing to a thread you happened to start, and bumping a For Sale thread?

Odd. Are OPs meant to start threads and then walk away?

CoolToolGuy

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 16:47

I'm not sure how you math is, but this thread has just barely 1900 posts... and I Simonius is only responisible for 475 of them ;)

Are you sure? I could have sworn it was 480 - could you count them again, please? :D

Have Fun,

symbolphoto

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 17:08

So you're actually admitting that you can't see the difference between actively contributing to a thread you happened to start, and bumping a For Sale thread?

Odd. Are OPs meant to start threads and then walk away?

You're telling me you can't see the difference between keeping a dead thread alive with answering questions as though they were posed to you and answering a day later to bump the thread, and actually contributing to a real thread with real questions and answers by others than the original poster as though they are the authority on the new 5D MKII.

Please. :rolleyes:

mattograph

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 22:01

http://www.mattograph.com/photos/351677064_Dom3y-L.jpg

symbolphoto

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 22:47

http://www.mattograph.com/photos/351677064_Dom3y-L.jpg

:lol: Normally i'm a friendly guy. Don't judge me by this series of postings alone.

gdl357

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 22:53

FlyingPhotog

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 22:56

http://www.mattograph.com/photos/351677064_Dom3y-L.jpg

Oh Man this is soooo good...

(I suddenly have this urge to see if Old Yeller is on AMC tonite...)

symbolphoto

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 23:01

Who gave YOU the authority to tell him what to do?

BAN!

I see someone has been going through my posts. :rolleyes:

Well if you read closely, my neighbor to the North, i didn't tell him what to do. I simply pointed out that he keeps bumping his thread, and that's he's worse than the bumpers of crappy products who keep desperately trying to sell stuff.

Read, then post.

Ban!

Radtech1

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 23:08

Oh Man this is soooo good...

(I suddenly have this urge to see if Old Yeller is on AMC tonite...)

My favorite line from the old Rosanne show:

[Rosanne making the point that her mother was cruel and heartless] "She thought that Old Yeller had it comin'!"

:lol:

FlyingPhotog

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 23:11

My favorite line from the old Rosanne show:

[Rosanne making the point that her mother was cruel and heartless] "She thought that Old Yeller had it comin'!"

:lol:

Damn...

<Reaching for another keyboard...> :p

gjl711

19th of August 2008 (Tue), 23:35

(I suddenly have this urge to see if Old Yeller is on AMC tonite...)I'd rather watch that weightlifter who tore of his arm for 90 minutes than watch Old Yeller. That movie is too sad.http://img90.exs.cx/img90/2365/k1ocray.gif

gdl357

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 00:04

I see someone has been going through my posts. :rolleyes:

Well if you read closely, my neighbor to the North, i didn't tell him what to do. I simply pointed out that he keeps bumping his thread, and that's he's worse than the bumpers of crappy products who keep desperately trying to sell stuff.

Read, then post.

Ban!

:rolleyes:That's why I put the HAHAHA at the end. :rolleyes:Also I too want a new DLSR.:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:BAN!:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:Enough eyes?:rolleyes:

fi20100

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 00:36

Are you sure? I could have sworn it was 480 - could you count them again, please? :D

Have Fun,

Well, you don't need to count. Just press the number (number of replies in the thread), and it will give you a list of how many posts everybody has in the thread.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=157341

mattograph

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 06:58

GADS!!!!

I am number #2.

Its never good to be #2.

Robert16

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 07:25

GADS!!!!

I am number #2.

Its never good to be #2.
You'll always be our #1 Matt:D:D

fi20100

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 07:51

Going back to 5D Mk2... I guess if the 5D Mk2 is on par with D700 I would be very happy... if it will surpass the D700, then I'll take my hat off for Canon.

Radtech1

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 07:57

Well, you don't need to count. Just press the number (number of replies in the thread), and it will give you a list of how many posts everybody has in the thread.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=157341

Where on the page do you find this number - Im not seeing it. Screencap please.

Rad

fi20100

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 08:06

Radtech1

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 08:18

It's on the index page for each sub forum, like this on:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=83

You've got the little icon, thread title, last post, number of replies (this is the one that is clickable) and total number of views.

Got it - I was looking all over the thread page itself. I was clicking the thread tools drop down, the post numbers, the page numbers, tried looking at the "first" page, the last page - tried everything except getting out of the page!

Thanks

Rad

fi20100

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 08:23

Yeah, sorry... didn't really explain it well the first time. Anyway, I think it's a fun "tool" (let's say feature)... didn't learn about it before some months ago.

mattograph

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 08:34

You'll always be our #1 Matt:D:D

This thread needed the love. Gracias!

I think what we are getting is what Bob Adkins suggests -- a full frame 40D.

I don't think that the 5D MK II is going to compare favorably to the D700. My GUESS is that the 5D MK II is going to be a full frame 40D, just like the 5D was a full frame 30D. The D700 is a stripped down D3.

Canon's problem is that they already have a stripped down flagship -- the 1D Mark III. If Canon releases the 5D Mark II with an AF system that works, and somewhere in the area of 6 fps, there will be a ton of sports shooters who will roll to the 5D MK II, IMO.

Now, if Canon is committed to leaving the AP-H sensor behind, maybe they do this.....

3D -- replaces the 1D MKIII. Full bodied full frame DSLR with AF system that works at a reduced megapixel count.

6D -- replaces 5D. Standard body at full frame with 40D feature set.

Of course, this die was cast long before the public knew about the D700. Let's hope Canon's spys weren't surprised!!!

fi20100

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 08:41

But all (I'm using that word loosely) sport shooters are saying that they want some sort of crop format to get a bit of extra reach.

If the 5D Mk2 will be a 40D with a FF sensor, then I think someone is shooting themselves in the foot... both feet actually. If you've been the lead dog in the market, but the the competition is starting to take big leaps, you have to react. If you keep doing what you've done before... well... you'll start loosing market shares... quickly.

Radtech1

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 08:45

But all (I'm using that word loosely) sport shooters are saying that they want some sort of crop format to get a bit of extra reach.

Do they not know that Photoshop has a crop function - or were they planning to skip post processing?

Rad

fi20100

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 08:46

Of course... but they still say it's nicer to compose in the viewfinder ;)

Yohan Pamudji

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 09:44

Woot! I'm in the top 5, and a stone's throw away from the bronze medal! Gotta post more :)

CoolToolGuy

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 12:01

Gee - See, this thread is not totally useless - I learned how to tell how many replies I've posted to a thread without counting them - Cool! :cool:

Have Fun,

I Simonius

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 13:54

You're telling me you can't see the difference between keeping a dead thread alive with answering questions as though they were posed to you and answering a day later to bump the thread, and actually contributing to a real thread with real questions and answers by others than the original poster as though they are the authority on the new 5D MKII.

Please. :rolleyes:

you talkin' to me?:p

Well if you read closely, my neighbor to the North, i didn't tell him what to do. I simply pointed out that he keeps bumping his thread, and that's he's worse than the bumpers of crappy products who keep desperately trying to sell stuff.

actually I am trying to prompt some new converstaion/opinion on tis pqrticular rumour - why? - hey Im actually interested!

I want to know what others think and wether there's any new thinking out there;)

I am getting a bit jaded waiting I admit but then this thread has been going a little while, I just wanta new 5Dmk2 - now that the gestation period must be coming to term I am revived in my desire to guess what features it will have

No doubt you have some good ideas on this topic?;)

TheHoff

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 14:03

It was almost three years ago TO THE DAY

>>Monday, 22 August 2005 10:00 GMT

that people were talking about the 5D press release. We must be close now.

It was exactly 1 year ago to the day that people were talking about the 40D release:

-- Monday, August 20, 2007

Both happened on Monday. What is up for Aug 25, 2008 -- something I am sure!

Trainboy

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 15:08

BugEyes

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 16:09

The press conferences is on tuesday, dunno where the monday runour comes from?

Trainboy

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 17:27

Shhh, you're just letting our hopes go un-crushed for another day!

vreeke

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 17:30

5d makes best pictures after 1dSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS,

we need only > 6 fps and buffer 20 frames ( because all interesting motions during < 2 seconds)

only that body for about $ 2500,-- will beat Nikon

Radtech1

20th of August 2008 (Wed), 17:48

OK,

How about this - a question for those of us who will likely be in the market for one: Since the announcement is near, does anyone have any "MUST HAVE" features/specs. I am not talking wish list, or want list, or hope list - I am talking threshold stuff - Something that is so critical, that without it, it is a deal killer.

For me, I have 3 (and I suspect I will get them, as they are all in other Canon DSLRs):

1) 14 bit (minimum) RAW

2) AF Microadjustment

3) Dust abatement.

There! Without each and all of those three, I will keep my 5D "Classic" and be somewhat disappointed in Canon. With those three, I will likely have one by the first of the year - depending on the amount of OT available at work.

Rad