300D needs adapter for EF lenses?

[droosan]

I have been all over the Canon site but I can't figure out whether you can simply attach your old EF lenses to the 300D/Rebel or whether you need an adapter of some sort and if so, what does it cost.

If it needs one, it apparently doesn't come with it, according to the kit contents, here.
http://www.canoneos.com/digitalrebel/specs/index.html

Has anyone heard if the EF-S lens will theoretically work with a 35mm size capture plane? If not, it would seem that Canon is committing itself to 35mm/1.6 capture plane size. This would disappoint me since small capture planes limit the aperture range. I had hoped that Canon was headed to full-frame when the photo-sensors become cheap enough.

[DonCoon]

The 300D does NOT need an adapter for EF lenses. It will works with all EF lenses and the two new S lenses.

However, the new S lenses will not work with other EOS cameras.

[Andy_T]

Hi Droosan,

in the consumer segment of the DSLR market (camera + lens below $1000), Canon will definitely not go full-frame.

According to the articles, the new EF-S lenses protrude further into the camera and for this reason can not be used with normal Canon cameras (they would collide with the mirror)

Regards,
Andy

[droosan]

Andythaler wrote:
in the consumer segment of the DSLR market (camera + lens below $1000), Canon will definitely not go full-frame.


Ever?

I recognize for the next couple years that will be the case. But developing a new lens format seems to imply a commitment of a longer time-frame than that?

I was hoping that eventually we would eventually have full-frame, maybe with large pixels, so that full frame will still only be about 6MP, which I think is more than enough for consumer cameras for the foreseeable future.

Also, the current EF-S lenses are consumer-oriented, but does anyone know whether there will ever EF-S-L lenses? What I am asking is whether the EF-S format only works for small capture planes, or whether it could, in theory work with a larger, say 35mm size, capture plane.

I worry about the possibility of Canon going down the Nikon road of "that lens works with that camera but this camera works with that lens and not this one..." meaning you worry that the lens you buy today will be obsolete when the next camera comes out, or the other way around.

Thanks for responding.

[Longwatcher]

DonCoon wrote:
The 300D does NOT need an adapter for EF lenses. It will works with all EF lenses and the two new S lenses.

However, the new S lenses will not work with other EOS cameras.

My impression was that the 18-55 did not work with EF mounts, but the 55-200 would. In fact according to the Canon USA site, the 55-200 will work with any EF mount.

Based on the MTF charts, the 55-200 is not going to compete with the 28-135 or 75-300 IS which are the medium range lenses in my opinion, so I suspect the 18-55 and 55-200 are primarily for the starving college student crowd to get them a minimal set of lenses for most uses at the least cost.

For trivia though the 18-55 appears to be a very good lens from the MTF charts although the charts cut off early compared to the 16-35 or 17-40 charts.

I am not worried about Canon changing lens formats at this time with only one lens that is not compatable.

Now if they could just do that zoom lens for my 10D that gets a 108 degree field of view without going fisheye, that would be great.

[droosan]

longwatcher wrote:
My impression was that the 18-55 did not work with EF mounts, but the 55-200 would. In fact according to the Canon USA site, the 55-200 will work with any EF mount.


Hasn't Canon had a plastic 55-200 for a number of years? Do you know how this new one is different?


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BTW, would people want a $100 lens for a $900 camera? Nobody would put a 28-80 on an EOS-3, would they? It'd be like buying a $900 amplifier and putting a $100 pair of speakers on it.

[boBquincy]

I bought a 55-200 with my D30 almost two years ago. The 55-200 is a small, light, *inexpensive* (I paid about $100) lens. It's MDF curves are not too good but at the size of a D30 sensor it is ok. The lens produces acceptable images, especially at f8. I can post a sample photo if anyone is interested.

After 8 months I bought the L series 70-200 f4 and compared the two lenses. No comparison! This was not really a surprise in a contest between a $100 and a $600 lens! But the L series is not 6x better! ;)

It comes down to what you want to spend and what your expectations are. I still carry the 55-200 when I am shooting snapshots or don't want the weight and size of the L glass.

I would expect the new 55-200 is somewhat improved over the old one but I wouldn't count on a major difference.


boB

[pwagner]

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I was hoping that eventually we would eventually have full-frame, maybe with large pixels, so that full frame will still only be about 6MP, which I think is more than enough for consumer cameras for the foreseeable future.

[Guillermo Freige]

Hi
First, Canon has announced ONLY ONE EF-S lens, the 18-55, the 55-200 is a classic EF lens, but it complements in focal lenghts the 18-55, so they are announced togheter with the 300D. The 55-200 is a revamping of a lens originally launched with the EOS IX (an APS format SLR camera).
Also, the 10D sensor isn't the same as the 300D sensor, at least at the manufacturing. Apparently the new plant is for the 300D sensor. They use larger waffers to accomodate more sensors per waffer and reduce costs, and I don't know if the same plant can use both waffer sizes, or if the 10D can be fitted with the new sensor. Canon claims the image quality of both sensors is the same.