Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM

[nomorebs]

I am about to pull the trigger on the EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM.
Are there any big pros & cons that I should be aware of or consider when buying this lens? Or is it generally considered a 'safe buy' as far as build quality, sharpness etc is concerned?

[LightRules]

This is a safe buy. It's "critically" sharp. It will make your 24-105L look bad.

[steved110]

You can't go wrong, it's the best 100mm macro made, how great that you are a Canon user and can benefit from it. Noinkers have to spend a lot more for less quality ( tho they are about to get a 105mm macro with vibration reduction..)
the only improvements on this would be if you needed 150 or 180mm - but IMHO those extreme lenses are more limited - the 100mm macro also doubles as a great short tele/ portrait lens

[CyberDyneSystems]

Great buy,..

Cons: Not the fastest USM AF in the world (no macro is that fast though)
Does not take Canon's T-cons

But awesome image quality!

http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=yxl9p7&outx=600&noresize=1

http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=yxl9ps&outx=600&noresize=1

http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=yxl9pa&outx=600&noresize=1

http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=yxl9p9&outx=600&noresize=1

[calicokat]

Great lens, here are a couple shots taken with it. First is a macro shot, second is a tribute to its versatility beyond macro.

[Jarrad]

You really can't go wrong with this lens. Especially if you have an interest in Macro Photography. Even if you don't, it's a very versatile lens. It's every bit as sharp as everyone has been describing.

Examples:

http://xs60.xs.to/pics/05510/Gladioli-P2.8-f2.8-1_60-ISO100-sRGB-8bit.jpg

http://xs63.xs.to/pics/06024/AlmostGood.jpg

http://xs63.xs.to/pics/06024/ThePoleMan.jpg


:)

[Raj]

Its an excellent lens, you cant go wrong with it. pros ? already metioned by all, DOF control & bokeh is excellent, can be used as portrait lens too.
Only con that comes to mind is slow AF in macro range & low light, but then the lens has full time internal manual focussing, so its not a issue at all. Outdoors AF is fast enough.

Color saturation, sharpness, contrast, just excellent.
A sample @ f3.5, iso 400, handheld :-)

http://www.pbase.com/blue_star/image/47141866.jpg

[rohnb]

I'm very close to ordering the Canon 100mm macro as well, though I do have to admit to some stalling wondering if the Sigma 150 or 180 might be a better choice for not a considerable amount more simply because of the increased working room for insects. I'd love to read (more) comments/opinions, if anyone has any to share ;-)

[chuckandbob]

Ah. Thanks Raj - I see that now.

[LightRules]

I'm very close to ordering the Canon 100mm macro as well, though I do have to admit to some stalling wondering if the Sigma 150 or 180 might be a better choice for not a considerable amount more simply because of the increased working room for insects. I'd love to read (more) comments/opinions, if anyone has any to share ;-)

Optically they are all very close; you just don't get sharper than dedicated macros (from center to edge). If you need the working distance, then the decision is easy.

[Livinthalife]

since we are kinda on the subject. I found what I think is a good deal. A 100mm macro 2.8 NON-usm plus a 50mm 2.5 for under $250...would i be able to get allot of use from the non USM? my 50 1.8 isnt USM, and the focus speed doesnt bother me, but my USM kit lens is pretty quick. I really dont notice much of a difference in speed between the 2 in focusing unless close ups, orlow light.

[Raj]

since we are kinda on the subject. I found what I think is a good deal. A 100mm macro 2.8 NON-usm plus a 50mm 2.5 for under $250...would i be able to get allot of use from the non USM? my 50 1.8 isnt USM, and the focus speed doesnt bother me, but my USM kit lens is pretty quick. I really dont notice much of a difference in speed between the 2 in focusing unless close ups, orlow light.

USM wont matter much for 100mm macro IMO. I focus manually most of the time anyway. Under $250 is very good price, but I am not so sure about that 50mm 2.5. which lens is this ?

[Livinthalife]

it says "compact macro" I figured just for the one lens would be worth it. but im sur ei could find a use for another 50mm

[Livinthalife]

heres the site, its actually a yahoo auction. if want to take a look or bid.

http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d60859490

[Jesper]

The EF 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro (http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=155&modelid=7323) is not a real macro lens. It magnifies up to 1:2, not 1:1 like a real macro lens.

You need the optional Life Size Converter EF (http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=155&modelid=8121) with the 50mm f/2.5 to get 1:1 magnification.

[halfmoonray]

I have the 100mm macro and it's remarkably sharp and the color is super. As I'm shooting more macro, I'm thinking of getting the Canon 180mm lens. Some benefits of the 180, I think, may offer an edge over the 100mm and these benefits stem from the larger working distance of the lens. Aside from not scaring insects as easily, the larger working distance of the 180 I think would provide the following additional benefits: 1) greater parallax for greater flexibility in composing the background, 2)softer and smoother background bokeh and 3)greater flexibility in lighting/flash adjustment within the greater working distance. I found this link to be helpful
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-180mm-f-3.5-L-USM-Macro-Lens-Review.aspx

[Livinthalife]

The EF 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro (http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=155&modelid=7323) is not a real macro lens. It magnifies up to 1:2, not 1:1 like a real macro lens.

You need the optional Life Size Converter EF (http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=155&modelid=8121) with the 50mm f/2.5 to get 1:1 magnification.

but to get a 50mm and the 100mm macro for $250...sound sliek a good deal thoguh...right?

thanks for the info too!

[Lester Wareham]

I'm very close to ordering the Canon 100mm macro as well, though I do have to admit to some stalling wondering if the Sigma 150 or 180 might be a better choice for not a considerable amount more simply because of the increased working room for insects. I'd love to read (more) comments/opinions, if anyone has any to share ;-)

These are all good lenses, don't forget the Canon 180mm also.

The nice thing about a 100mm macro is it is a good compromise between working distance and weight, important for handheld use.

The nice thing about the Canon over the other 100mm is the AF is very usable for normal tele use. You can use it for closeup but to be honest it is easy to MF.

[incendy]

I am about to get one too:) Can't wait

[halfmoonray]

Here's two shot with the 100 macro:
http://static.flickr.com/55/128008376_1bf57a9161.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/55/128008389_364fa7e385.jpg

[halfmoonray]

Here's one more taken with the 100 macro:
http://static.flickr.com/56/128013586_0a0aaa2230.jpg

[liza]

I just purchased this lens and am sooooo happy with it! The sharpness and color of images taken with it are out of this world.

[nomorebs]

Loads of great images here!
Just purchased the lens from my local online dealer. Can't wait to get it!:D

Now, how about the ET-67 lens hood? I've got hoods for my other lenses, and know it's a good thing. However, the ET-67 looks so big - don't you lose some light when it's attached?

[nomorebs]

No-one with info about the ET-67 hood?

[Pognig]

I'm thinking of buying the 100mm macro...it's that or the 70-200 f/4L. But it seems the macro has the best of both worlds (or maybe 3) - obviously very sharp close up shots or flowers insects objects...then nice background bokeh for portraits with sharpness...and potential (limited) for tele use. Im thinking this is a good second or third lens to buy....


Sam

[clicky]

It's a really great lens, buy now! :-)

http://haugalandfotoklubb.no/photo01.jpg

http://haugalandfotoklubb.no/foto1170.jpg

http://haugalandfotoklubb.no/photo0049.jpg

[steved110]

As far as I understand it, the older non-USM Canon 100mm macro does not have internal focusing - so the lens gets longer and shorter as you focus - this can be an issue with macro, just something to be aware of if bidding for an older lens.

[nomorebs]

Would any of you current macro lens owners recommend using UV filters for protection? Sneaking around in flower beds etc might cause dust/dirt on the front element, which is not recessed. What is the filter thread size for this lens?

I have ordered the ET-67 hood from Ebay.

[Jon]

I use filters on any lens I can get them on. This doesn't eliminate the need for a hood, but it does protectthe lens against things that might protrude past the hood (which they will).

[ugadawg]

I just got my 100mm 2.8 macro last week and it is awesome. Enjoy :)

[nomorebs]

Can't wait to get it! As mentioned, I got the ET-67 hood on Ebay, and I just bought a Heliopan UV filter 58mm for it as well. Only €17 ;) Can't be that bad optically, but if it is I can remove it any time I want.

[Lester Wareham]

Would any of you current macro lens owners recommend using UV filters for protection? Sneaking around in flower beds etc might cause dust/dirt on the front element, which is not recessed. What is the filter thread size for this lens?

I have ordered the ET-67 hood from Ebay.

I do. As long as it is multicoated it will have minimal effect. The only proviso is if you are shooting with a strong light source in the frame it may be worth removing it. I use Hoya pro.

I think all the Canon macro lenses except for the 180mm are 58mm.

Note that is you have a Canon Macro Flash then fitting a filter stops you mounting the flash. The avoidance action for this is to get one of the macro flash adaptor rings and screw that into the filter.

[In2Photos]

Great thread. I added it to the lens archive sticky.

[nomorebs]

I do. As long as it is multicoated it will have minimal effect.
I got a Heliopan, but not the SH-PMC
Are they any good?

[Double Negative]

Heliopan is pretty much the best. The SH-PMC filters are coated more than the non, but still very good.

[malla1962]

EF100 macro,cons?are there any cons with this lens?it is a superb lens and not just for macro.:D:D:D

[glowie]

I hate you guys! Now I want one too!

[Lester Wareham]

EF100 macro,cons?are there any cons with this lens?it is a superb lens and not just for macro.:D:D:D

The only thing to complain about is no TMA or hood supplied - but then the price point is quite good considering the quality of the lens - even here in rip off UK. :rolleyes:

[StealthLude]

I want the 50mm 1.4 and the 100mm macro... I think im just going to order them both!

Damn you B&H, damn you forum members!

[I Simonius]

Seems there are no serious pitfalls to consider :)
Will order the 100mm macro lens immediately.

Thanks for your help!


yes I have been intersted in tis lens too!

[nomorebs]

Got it today! Can't wait to fiddle around with it.
First impression: Great build quality.

..still waiting for the ET-67 hood and the Heliopan filter.

Now, I feel the neeeeeeeeeeed for a new tripod.

[nomorebs]

Damn you B&H, damn you forum members!

I second that..! ;) It can get expensive ;)
Seriously, I love this forum - so many really helpful people that provide invaluable knowledge and experience.

[Lester Wareham]

Got it today! Can't wait to fiddle around with it.
First impression: Great build quality.

..still waiting for the ET-67 hood and the Heliopan filter.

Now, I feel the neeeeeeeeeeed for a new tripod.

Good luck. I know with the 20D I can use the internal flash even at life size - I don't know if will be the case with your 350D but give it a go - it makes a lot of difference for insect photography:lol: .

To use the internal flash effectivly I tended to have to turn up the ISO to 200-400 and use +2 stops of FEC.;)

[Jon]

EF100 macro,cons?are there any cons with this lens?it is a superb lens and not just for macro.:D:D:DWell, it's not 180 and IS . . .
;{)#

[nomorebs]

That sounds like an expensive combination.. ;)

[Jon]

That sounds like an expensive combination.. ;)But wouldn't you just love to have it?

[malla1962]

Well, it's not 180 and IS . . .
;{)#It may not be 180 but the 180 is not f2.8:D

[Jon]

It may not be 180 but the 180 is not f2.8:DOr IS, even though it's L. So what's wrong with wanting a 180 f/2.8 IS macro?

[Ogrt48]

Go with the Sigma 105. Same great performance and $100 or so less.

[Lester Wareham]

Or IS, even though it's L. So what's wrong with wanting a 180 f/2.8 IS macro?

The only problem with the 180 is if you want it to double as a conventional tele, f3.5 means no AF with the EF 2X, the comparison being with the EF 200/2.8L. Of course the AF is not and issue for macro.

Some say the 180 AF is slow anyway, but then some say that about the 100mm and that is nonsense so I don't know if the take that seriously.

I would love the 180 but I wouldn't be without my EF 200/2.8.

[I Simonius]

It's a really great lens, buy now! :-)


Did you use extension tubes for those GREAT shots?:D

[SDK^]

EF100 macro,cons?are there any cons with this lens?it is a superb lens and not just for macro.:D:D:D
If it had IS then it would be perfect :)

[ScottE]

Pros
Extremely sharp (but so are the comparable Sigma 105 and Tamron 90 mm macros)

USM with full time manual focus override. Manual focus is most important for macro, but sometimes you use the lens for other purposes and forget to switch to M when going back to macro. I wrecked the autofocus on my Sigma 105 this way.

Available tripod collar. This will allow you to change the orientation for landscape to portrait without having to swing the camera sideways and probably reposition your tripod.

Cons
Canon charges extra for the lens hood that all other manufactures provide for free.

Canon charges extra for the tripod collar. This is not available for the Sigma 105 or Tamron 90, but is included for free with the Sigma 150 mm macro lens.

[Jon]

The only problem with the 180 is if you want it to double as a conventional tele, f3.5 means no AF with the EF 2X, the comparison being with the EF 200/2.8L. Of course the AF is not and issue for macro.

Some say the 180 AF is slow anyway, but then some say that about the 100mm and that is nonsense so I don't know if the take that seriously.

I would love the 180 but I wouldn't be without my EF 200/2.8.You're obviously confusing what the 100 f/2.8 lacks with what's in a lens Canon makes. BTW - Sigma makes a 180 f/2.8 macro. It's just that noone makes an IS macro at all.

[Lester Wareham]

You're obviously confusing what the 100 f/2.8 lacks with what's in a lens Canon makes. BTW - Sigma makes a 180 f/2.8 macro. It's just that noone makes an IS macro at all.

Sorry I'm not Jon.

Not quite shure where you are comming from here. Just pointing out why some may be disapointed with the f3.5 on the 180 and prefer the 200/2.8 so they can use the 2X and keep AF in normal tele use.

I didn't mention IS, but Nikon do have a IS macro. I am on record of being sceptical of how useful a 2 axis IS is with macro work, where controllling the non-stabalised plane of focus is the biggest problem handheld.

[Lord_Malone]

I had a very brief love affair with the Leica APO 100 f2.8 Macro-Elmarit-R once upon a time. Great lens. Sold it. Hardly ever shot macro to justify keeping it. When/If I I decide to pursue macro photograpy again, I wouldn't hesitate to get the Canon 100 f2.8.

[nomorebs]

Well, me and wife have played around with our new EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro lens this weekend. Damn sharp lens indeed! We quickly discovered that it ain't easy to use at 1:1. A good quality steady tripod (which we don't have), good light and lots of patience is required. Took some time to get those razor sharp images, but when we did.. wow! Not to mention that superb bokeh we were able to achieve..

But what the hell.. this lens made us both hunt high and low for bugs, and will provide many hours of fun. It's a keeper! Now I think my wife wants a macro flash... oh yes, and a tripod that actually works. How about the Gitzo G2228?

[Ogrt48]

Well, me and wife have played around with our new EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro lens this weekend. Damn sharp lens indeed! We quickly discovered that it ain't easy to use at 1:1. A good quality steady tripod (which we don't have), good light and lots of patience is required. Took some time to get those razor sharp images, but when we did.. wow! Not to mention that superb bokeh we were able to achieve..

But what the hell.. this lens made us both hunt high and low for bugs, and will provide many hours of fun. It's a keeper! Now I think my wife wants a macro flash... oh yes, and a tripod that actually works. How about the Gitzo G2228?

You're sure it's your "wife" who wants all that.. :P ;)

[Lester Wareham]

Well, me and wife have played around with our new EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro lens this weekend. Damn sharp lens indeed! We quickly discovered that it ain't easy to use at 1:1. A good quality steady tripod (which we don't have), good light and lots of patience is required. Took some time to get those razor sharp images, but when we did.. wow! Not to mention that superb bokeh we were able to achieve..

But what the hell.. this lens made us both hunt high and low for bugs, and will provide many hours of fun. It's a keeper! Now I think my wife wants a macro flash... oh yes, and a tripod that actually works. How about the Gitzo G2228?

For macro you want a tripod with a built in lateral arm facility, the Benbos and I think Gitzo Explorers have this.

If you want a macro flash go for the MT24-EX over the ring flash for better control over the lighting ratio and direction and no ring shaped reflections on the shiny bugs.

[nomorebs]

You're sure it's your "wife" who wants all that.. :P ;)
Actually, she does..

I'm pretty lucky, eh? ;)

[nomorebs]

For macro you want a tripod with a built in lateral arm facility, the Benbos and I think Gitzo Explorers have this.

If you want a macro flash go for the MT24-EX over the ring flash for better control over the lighting ratio and direction and no ring shaped reflections on the shiny bugs.
The G2228 is in the Explorer series, I believe - so that should be a good one.
We've been looking at both the MR14-EX and the MT24-EX. The price difference between them is a serious consideration.. the MT24-EX is really expensive! Is it worth it?

[Lester Wareham]

The G2228 is in the Explorer series, I believe - so that should be a good one.
We've been looking at both the MR14-EX and the MT24-EX. The price difference between them is a serious consideration.. the MT24-EX is really expensive! Is it worth it?

I would say so - ring flashes have a reputation for ring shaped reflections, although the MR14 is realy two half rings. See http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00BIZQ&unified_p=1

Pros for the MR14 are, slightly smaller flash head may be better for dense undergrowth, cheaper, can still control ratio between each side.

Pros for the MT24 are, more head separation so better modelling, heads can be tilted and roatated around the lens (or even removed and mounted of seperate hot shoe compatible mountings), has a filter thread, has a CF 9 that lets you turn on the incadecent focussing lights with a double tap of the shutter (I love this).

You might want to take a look at my macro equipment web page, there is a lot of stuff on there when I was trying to convince myself the MT24 was worth the extra.
http://www.zen20934.zen.co.uk/photography/Macro_Equipment.htm#Macro%20Flash

[malla1962]

The G2228 is in the Explorer series, I believe - so that should be a good one.
We've been looking at both the MR14-EX and the MT24-EX. The price difference between them is a serious consideration.. the MT24-EX is really expensive! Is it worth it?For me tripods and macro don't go together unless your shooting coins and things like that.Bugs and things like that don't seem to want to waite for me to set up a tripod.Now on to the flash,you need one!when shooting at 1:1 you are looking at about f16/f22 to get any sort of DOF,I use the mr14 and love it and its a nice price.:D

[nomorebs]

@ Leser: Thanks for your input.

The MR-14EX certainly has a more attractive price.. the MT-24EX is priced beyond any reasonable level here in Norway. Maybe get a used MT-24EX, if someone ever sells one ;)

About the tripod.. the one we have sucks big time. So we need one anyway - and we might as well get one that is suitable for macro work.

[Lester Wareham]

@ Leser: Thanks for your input.

The MR-14EX certainly has a more attractive price.. the MT-24EX is priced beyond any reasonable level here in Norway. Maybe get a used MT-24EX, if someone ever sells one ;)

About the tripod.. the one we have sucks big time. So we need one anyway - and we might as well get one that is suitable for macro work.

If you looking to save cash you could mount your two standard flashes on brackets and the off shoe cable, the 580 can be master but I am not sure is the small flash can be a slave. I did this on my old film system - it is not ideal but it works, at least you would still have ETTL II this way.

The two flashes you have look fairly expensive together.

How much more you want to spend on a dedicated macro flash, I think depends on how into macro you are. You could try with flash brackets for a while to see how into macro work you get then decide on the MR14 or MT24.

In my case I don't use flash for much other than macro so I have a macro flash and no normal flash for now.

[jcwdz88]

I just got mine today. If it is anywhere as good as the 14-70, and the 100-400 that I have, I'll be very happy.

First tries as soon as I got home were great. Using it on a 20D.

[GrendelZ]

Got mine Monday,I can tell from the shots so far its going to have a little bit of a learning curve.

[Lester Wareham]

I just got mine today. If it is anywhere as good as the 14-70, and the 100-400 that I have, I'll be very happy.

First tries as soon as I got home were great. Using it on a 20D.

Enjoy, it should be a lot sharper than zooms, but macro is quite a different techneque so don't get put off.

[GrendelZ]

One of my first shots.I really like this lens it is super sharp.The only complaint I have is the focusing speed,which is not up to my other USM lenses.I knew going in that the design made it a little slower focusing.Manual focus is the way to go on macro shots,the af "hunts" badly.All in all I am very pleased and see many great images coming from this lens.



http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/GrendelZ/MeanBcopy.jpg

[Lester Wareham]

One of my first shots.I really like this lens it is super sharp.The only complaint I have is the focusing speed,which is not up to my other USM lenses.I knew going in that the design made it a little slower focusing.Manual focus is the way to go on macro shots,the af "hunts" badly.All in all I am very pleased and see many great images coming from this lens.


This is only becuse of th long focusing arc due to the wide focus range, use the focus range limiter switch which will help. If you let a lens with a wide focus range hunt in low light it will seem much slower than it realy is.

[freefallu]

i think im gonna get this lens , but i am dissapointed there arent more images in this archive thread ?

[Lester Wareham]

i think im gonna get this lens , but i am dissapointed there arent more images in this archive thread ?

Take a look at the macro thread...

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=38

[JimAskew]

i think im gonna get this lens , but i am dissapointed there arent more images in this archive thread ?

Hi,

Here are a couple I made with the 100MM f/2.8 Macro. It is great as either a Macro or Portrait lens :)

[GrendelZ]

Here are a few to show the amazing depth of field(or lack thereof).All these items are less than an inch long.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/GrendelZ/Curve.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/GrendelZ/TootsieRoll.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/GrendelZ/Orange.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/GrendelZ/Piano.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d81/GrendelZ/Dew.jpg

[drbenjamin]

Totally dig this lens. I really do use it more than any of my others. Here's an action shot, taken with a Tamron 1.4X converter (who says this lens focuses slow?!! ;) ) followed by an actual macro, which I occasionally shoot too.




http://mysite.verizon.net/dj.tenben2/100macro-1.4x.JPG


http://mysite.verizon.net/dj.tenben2/web_macro_full.jpg


Enjoy!

D

[JohnnyMac]

Awesome lens. One of Canons best buys for sure.I sometimes take just that lens and go find things to shoot.

[Broncobear]

I was going to pick up the sigma 105 mm macro eventually but you guys are really making me think about the 100mm

[kwsanders]

i think im gonna get this lens , but i am dissapointed there arent more images in this archive thread ?

I had missed this thread before now. Here are a couple of photos that I took with the 100mm f/2.8 macro lens. One photo is an obvious macro shot and the other is a portrait shot to show the bokeh possibilities with the lens.

[tomhide]

Took this shot yesturday morning. I got excited and posted in Animals photo sharing section but I thought I'd throw this one in the 100mm f/2.8 Macro archive.
If anyone is considering this lense, it is simply an amazing lense! If I had to give a con to this lense would be the fucus speed isn't fast but it ain't majoy issue for me.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/13/bird2xg3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[BrewsterPilot]

Is the 100mm f2.8 macro considered to be better than the "EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM"?

Well...
100mm Pros
-more working distance
-inner focusing
-usm
-also goes with FF

100mm Cons
-protruding front element needs protection; hood or filter
-heavy & not too good to take on trips
-a tad less sharp, but not much

60mm Pros
-lightweight, small, good travel macro
-rumored to be Canon's sharpest
-usm

60mm Cons
-less working distance
-only for crop cameras
-no inner focusing (not sure about this though)

[dan1home]

Well...
100mm Pros
-more working distance
-inner focusing
-usm
-also goes with FF

100mm Cons
-protruding front element needs protection; hood or filter
-heavy & not too good to take on trips
-a tad less sharp, but not much

60mm Pros
-lightweight, small, good travel macro
-rumored to be Canon's sharpest
-usm

60mm Cons
-less working distance
-only for crop cameras
-no inner focusing (not sure about this though)

Please elaborate on what you mean by this comment "-only for crop cameras".

[BrewsterPilot]

Please elaborate on what you mean by this comment "-only for crop cameras".

It's an "EF-S" lens, which means it will only fit on EOS cameras with a smaller sensor than the "FF" (full frame=same size sensor as an old time 36.0 x 24.0mm film negative).

The cameras it will fit on are:
300D/Digital Rebel
350D/Digital Rebel XT
400D/Digital Rebel XTI
10D
20D
30D

It won't fit on:
5D
All versions of 1D

[Lester Wareham]

I disagree. The USM on my 100mm Macro lens, with the focus limiter on, seems to be every bit as fast as my 85mm 1.8, IMO.

:)

I agree also.

Folks who don't use the focus limiter when using a macro lens in low light experience the search over the whole of the macro range which would be slow. The focus limiter solves this issue.

[Lester Wareham]

I just got this lens today and if this lens had IS it would be perfect. I'm sure Canon will announce a new Macro lens with IS tomorrow since I finally pulled the trigger on a Macro lens. Does anyone know if IS would reduce the sharpness and that is why they don't have IS?

This is my first macro lens and it really does need a tripod unless you have a tremendous amount of light. I can't wait to try this baby outside with sunlight. Too bad it is going to be overcast the next couple of days here in Dallas.

The experience of those with the Nikon IS macro lens (Nikon call it VR) is that the IS is of little or no help at macro distances.

The main problem handholding at macro distances is plane of focus movement and subject movement which IS does nothing to help with.

However at normal tele distances and moderate magnifications IS can help, however the 100mm macro is sharp wide open and is relativly light and easy to use handheld.

IS on the 180mm macro might be more useful however.

[Lostboy77]

It's an "EF-S" lens, which means it will only fit on EOS cameras with a smaller sensor than the "FF" (full frame=same size sensor as an old time 36.0 x 24.0mm film negative).

The cameras it will fit on are:
300D/Digital Rebel
350D/Digital Rebel XT
400D/Digital Rebel XTI
10D
20D
30D

It won't fit on:
5D
All versions of 1D
Correction - the 10D does not accept EF-S lenses

[zacker]

the 10D doesnt take EF-S lenses? It's not FF..How is this?
Just curious!

[Lester Wareham]

the 10D doesnt take EF-S lenses? It's not FF..How is this?
Just curious!

The 10D is pre-EF-S mount although APS-C format.

The mount does not take the seperate polarity pin (mount angle) for EF-S, if you modify things so you can mount an EF-S lens you have to worry about the mirror hitting the back of the lens at some focal lengths due to the short back focus design meaning the stick futher into the camera at some focal lengths.

I know some use EF-S lenses in some way, but it sounds a bit risky.

[zacker]

The 10D is pre-EF-S mount although APS-C format.

The mount does not take the seperate polarity pin (mount angle) for EF-S, if you modify things so you can mount an EF-S lens you have to worry about the mirror hitting the back of the lens at some focal lengths due to the short back focus design meaning the stick futher into the camera at some focal lengths.

I know some use EF-S lenses in some way, but it sounds a bit risky.

Wow, I never knew that... Thanks Lester!

[anomie]

I'm thinking about buying this lens, along with a few others, but particularly because of the rebate period soon coming to an end. I have a few questions because Macro is something I think I may enjoy.

1) Is the hood necessary? I usually buy hoods for all my lenses, just wondering if it's truly necessary for macro work or whether it's not.

2) Macro ring lite - are they necessary or can I get away with using my 430ex with ABBC and/or no flash in bright sunlight?

Thanks!

[Lester Wareham]

I'm thinking about buying this lens, along with a few others, but particularly because of the rebate period soon coming to an end. I have a few questions because Macro is something I think I may enjoy.

1) Is the hood necessary? I usually buy hoods for all my lenses, just wondering if it's truly necessary for macro work or whether it's not.

2) Macro ring lite - are they necessary or can I get away with using my 430ex with ABBC and/or no flash in bright sunlight?

Thanks!

Hi Anomie

The hood, which is very deep, can get in the way a bit at life size causing shadowing or bug scaring. You should use the recommended hood for working at longer distances however.

As a compromise I also carry the hood for the EF-S 60mm macro which is much shorter, and so less effective, but fits. This gives some protection for ambient light work at 1:1 without being too bothersome.

For flash you would not normally fit the hood, as long as the flash does not shine directly on the front of the lens.

Lots of folks use an ordinary flash on a bracket so I would try that first. Myself I use the MT-24EX which really comes into its own with the MP-E 65mm, but even then many here, like Brian (LordV) prefer an ordinary flash and bracket set up.

[anomie]

Some photos taken with this lens. Once the weather improves I plan on shooting insects and flowers! Very impressed thus far.

[CrazyPuma]

Only con that comes to mind is slow AF in macro range & low light
I just bought this lens and thought it was great - sharpness is wonderful etc. Then I noticed AF speed issues when trying to use it for non-macro shots in dim light. If it's dim enough, the AF doesn't even move/react at all sometimes...a bit annoying, so I came here to see if it was normal or abnormal. Thanks to this thread, it appears it is normal, so now I can stop worrying.

Anyway, that's my 1-day experience w/it so far. :) Like some others, it's still cloudy and rainy and I can't wait for good weather. Definitely worth the money if you're into close-ups/macros, IMO.

[Lester Wareham]

I just bought this lens and thought it was great - sharpness is wonderful etc. Then I noticed AF speed issues when trying to use it for non-macro shots in dim light. If it's dim enough, the AF doesn't even move/react at all sometimes...a bit annoying, so I came here to see if it was normal or abnormal. Thanks to this thread, it appears it is normal, so now I can stop worrying.

Anyway, that's my 1-day experience w/it so far. :) Like some others, it's still cloudy and rainy and I can't wait for good weather. Definitely worth the money if you're into close-ups/macros, IMO.

I would say that if the AF is not responding at all the light level and contrast must be very low, however that is a camera functionality except for lens aperture.

So a slightly faster lens may give better results as it provides the AF system with a lower noise signal, but in my experience these sort of issues are due to no contrast for the AF system to lock on to.

Of course if you use AF in the macro range then focus will be slow, if you use the focus range limiter switch for normal use it seems reasonable to me, no different from my 200/2.8L II.

[CrazyPuma]

I would say that if the AF is not responding at all the light level and contrast must be very low, however that is a camera functionality except for lens aperture.

So a slightly faster lens may give better results as it provides the AF system with a lower noise signal, but in my experience these sort of issues are due to no contrast for the AF system to lock on to.

Of course if you use AF in the macro range then focus will be slow, if you use the focus range limiter switch for normal use it seems reasonable to me, no different from my 200/2.8L II.

The macro is very fast in daylight; even for macro range it's fairly quick if the light's moderate to very bright, no complaints there.

Our house is often very dimly lit by preference. We have a family room wide open to a large brick wall/dark wood kitchen, and often the 2 ceiling bulbs in the kitchen and the big plasma TV are the only light for both rooms. The 20D kit-lens AF handles it just fine 95% of the time, when I want to take, say, casual kitty or spouse snapshots. :) I suspect the contrast issue, both from low light and wall/cabinet colors etc. is the main problem w/the macro, as you said. Perhaps any long lens would have that problem in our house's normal lighting. At any rate, it doesn't bother me as long as I know it's "normal" behaviour and not a defect.

[Lester Wareham]

I suspect the contrast issue, both from low light and wall/cabinet colors etc. is the main problem w/the macro, as you said. Perhaps any long lens would have that problem in our house's normal lighting. At any rate, it doesn't bother me as long as I know it's "normal" behaviour and not a defect.

Yes sounds sounds normal, but not confined to this lens, any lens will hunt with a low contrast AF target, low light will make things worse so a faster lens may do better but if the contrast is really low there is nothing for the AF system to work with. ;)

[Delphi]

Excuse my jumping in, could anyone tell me about using a tele converter on the 100mm f2.8 with a 12mm extender?

[Lester Wareham]

Excuse my jumping in, could anyone tell me about using a tele converter on the 100mm f2.8 with a 12mm extender?

Yes I have used the EF 1.4X II and EF 2X II on the 100mm with a 12mm tube between the TC and the lens so they physically fit.

The thing to note is the camera metering is not aware of the 1 or 2 stop loss due to the TC so you need to open up more to avoid diffraction. So if you normally shoot at max f16 with the lens on its own you should open up 2 further stops with the 2X on to a max of f8.

Note this is to avoid diffraction softening, the through the lens metering will work fine.

This is with the 2X on:
http://www.zen20934.zen.co.uk/photography/GalleryPics/Photos/Arthropods/True_Flies/Insects%20Medium%20Fly%202%20010%20copy.jpg

[Lester Wareham]

What I'm also trying to gain is working distance for handheld field work; dragonfly/damsel etc. The 150mm may be too heavy for us to lug over field and stream.


It is possible to shoot the dragons and damsels with the 100mm (LordV has even done it with the MP-E) but more reach does improve productivity and reduce the stalking skill needed.

This is one of the first shots I took with my 100mm
http://www.zen20934.zen.co.uk/photography/GalleryPics/Photos/Arthropods/Dragonflies/Wildlife%20Canal%20Diversity%20Area_Green%20Brown% 20Dragonfly_01.jpg

For D&Ds I mostly use a 300mm f4L IS with tubes, this gives a nice reach and enough magnification for full body shots. It is a very sharp lens but obviously heavy. An example shot:
http://www.zen20934.zen.co.uk/photography/GalleryPics/Photos/Arthropods/Dragonflies/Insects%20Dragonfly%20106.jpg

[Howler-Cat]

After reading this thread last night...went out and bought one this afternoon! I just love it and still alot to learn with this new lens! Great thread and thanks to all of the good folks here at POTN!

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8010/mac01bo1.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8195/mac02iq8.jpg

[R_Metzel]

Taken using a friends copy of the lens. wide open @ 2.8
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/225/458446891_bf87cebfdb_o.jpg

[Dorman]

Pro's - reasonably priced, good working distance, 1:1 magnification from the get-go, incredibly S-H-A-R-P, great color & contrast, nice big MF ring for fine tuning, very sharp wide open, versatile, incredibly sharp medium telephoto prime.

Con's - for me I find the 100 Macro a bit large (length, weight, space in bag), and I personally find it difficult to handhold. For that reason alone I've been thinking of letting this gem go for a Sigma 50mm, Sigma 70mm, or canon 60mm macro that will be easier for me to manage.

[Sydor25]

Love the lens!

http://sydor25.com/Pictures/Orange_County_2007-1028.jpg

[JimAskew]

If you do not own this lens then run, not walk, to the nearest store and get a copy...it is awesome!

Shot these this morning with my 30D & the 100MM f/2.8 Macro :)

[Coward]

I'm going to buy this lens too. I've heard so many good things about it.

I'm still slightly unsure about what it's capable of though. How magnified can photos with this actually be?

As magnified and clear as these?
http://gallery.photo.net/photo/367113-md.jpg

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/2591/66602903e9d4dp28yellowjbw6.jpg


Also, to what extent does the camera effect the closeness and clarity of your supermacro shots? I mean, when I use this lens will my canon 350d, will I be using it to its full potential?

Lastly, I saw some mention of using "extension tubes" with this lens. -- Do you know where I can find out about this? Where do you get these TUBES from? How do you attatch them? Are they ridiculously long? (I don't have a tripod), Would they hugely improve the magnification and clarity of my macro shots?


Thanks


Edit - Also, to take these sorts of pictures do you need a special flash of some kind?

[MONDONGO_CON_CUAJITO]

Here's two with the 100mm 2.8. click to enlarge

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1233/527166691_35d578dc4a_t.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/abnelgonzalez/527166691/in/set-72157600297975908)


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/527124597_36be51a549_t.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/abnelgonzalez/527124597/)

[Sydor25]

I love this lens on the Mark III:

http://sydor25.com/Pictures/Test_Shots_0629.jpg

[mikeyb]

Some shots my dad took with his Canon 100mm Macro and 350D

http://mikeyb.smugmug.com/photos/164929037-L.jpg

http://mikeyb.smugmug.com/photos/164929521-L.jpg


http://mikeyb.smugmug.com/photos/154040168-L.jpg

http://mikeyb.smugmug.com/photos/150825722-L.jpg

Mike.

[G35Driver]

Heres one I just took earlier today.
http://luis452.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p133523214.jpg

[tomhide]

It's been a while. Here's something taken a while ago :)

30D / EF 100mm Macro / 1/60 sec / f/8 / ISO 400

PP'ed and Slight crop.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/917/flyingreenmj4.jpg

[Nanboh]

I love this lens

http://nanigae.zenfolio.com/img/v0/p1069929010-4.jpg

http://nanigae.zenfolio.com/img/v0/p869465154-3.jpg

[Jarrad]

I have a before and after:

http://xs215.xs.to/xs215/07211/JagodaBeforeThumbs.jpghttp://farm1.static.flickr.com/230/507072739_2985c167e4.jpg

:)

[sandro9mm]

damn, what did u do? is that magic? please tell me the technique :)

[Jarrad]

damn, what did u do? is that magic? please tell me the technique :)

Yes, it is Magic ;)


(liquify tool in photoshop)

[QX56]

It's look funny when you chop her righ and left arm .:lol:

[sandro9mm]

It's look funny when you chop her righ and left arm .:lol:
he also did some plastic surgery ;) lips / nose / chin...

[Jarrad]

I didn't chop anything... I just made some things bigger, some things smaller and moved things around.

:p

[pixel_junkie]

http://www.emilkara.com/Images/Snake.jpg

http://www.emilkara.com/Images/Flower.jpg

[shannyD]

he also did some plastic surgery ;) lips / nose / chin...

i didnt even notice that unitll you mentioned it. that is so cool! can it erase 10lbs too? LOL.
great work.
shannon

[G35Driver]

http://luis452.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p531761254.jpg

http://luis452.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p471397130.jpg

[anomie]

Fun lens!

http://ddemelo.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p1033720148-4.jpg

http://ddemelo.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p743531618-4.jpg

http://ddemelo.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p793926231-4.jpg

http://ddemelo.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p880493874-4.jpg

[buzzyrabbit]

Ive just ordered the 100macro- should be delivered by the end of the week. Now to get a suitable flash.

[AeroSmith]

Here are a few for the archive. My MT-24EX lives on this lens.

f/22. 5D.
http://AeroSmith.smugmug.com/photos/71690258-L.jpg



f/16. 1D Mark III.
http://AeroSmith.smugmug.com/photos/163941941-L.jpg



f/20. 1D Mark IIN.
http://AeroSmith.smugmug.com/photos/116202640-L.jpg

[john-stocker]

The lens is magic, have no fear.

[yabbie]

This is my all time favourite lens - I originally had a Tamron mf 90mm for my Pentax and had it on permanently, but when I switched to digi Canon last year this wasn't compatable, they don't make adaptall mounts for the EOS system.

The 100mm didn't take much getting used to, and I'm loving it even more. It's wildflower season in Western Australia at the moment, so I'm going on lots of road trips.
These are from the Stirling Ranges, and Watharoo National Parks, no editing done.

[Pauky]

Nice pictures! Are these all 100% crops? I just bought my 100mm macro and I'm trying to get used to it. Some people post some nice hand held pics, but I'm finding it very difficult to hand hold. How are you handholding and getting sharp shots (the closeup pics) without camera shake?

[yabbie]

Hi Pauky,

Thanks!
These aren't cropped, they're originals, nothing done to them. I hand hold, but if it's lower light, I find something to be supported with (a knee, lean against a rock or tree. However these were taken with decent lighting, and the shutter speed was 1/100 or more (can't remember), so no camera shake problems. Practice breathing too helps minimise camera shake - I don't breath just before taking the shot if there's a light problem. But I can't hold steady reliably under 1/50, some people can.

Also, just practice, and have fun. I've used a macro lens since 98, and it's on my camera 50% of the time.

[airfrogusmc]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y118/airfrogusmc/IMG_69833.jpg

5D 100 2.8 100 ISO 1/100 sec F 22

[Lester Wareham]

Ive just ordered the 100macro- should be delivered by the end of the week. Now to get a suitable flash.

The MT-24EX is king IMHO, even better on the MP-E 65mm if you add one of those later.

[buzzyrabbit]

The MT-24EX is king IMHO, even better on the MP-E 65mm if you add one of those later.
Thanks Lester. I don't think i will be getting the MP-E 65,as it would be a bit too specialist for me. Is there a big performance differance between the MT-24EX and the MR-14EX?.

[Lester Wareham]

Thanks Lester. I don't think i will be getting the MP-E 65,as it would be a bit too specialist for me. Is there a big performance differance between the MT-24EX and the MR-14EX?.

The control box looks the same, the 24 is more powerful (obviously).

The major difference is the twin flash heads on the 24 are on a bracket that slips on the lens. These can be rotated round the lens independently to change the angle of the light and the angle between them, also the heads can be tilted in and out to account for different working distances, on the 100mm one setting of the tilt suits all practical working distances.

Both units let you control the lighting ration between the two heads for the 24 and two halves of the ring for the 14. However this modelling ratio will show up more with the 24 due to the wider separation of the heads. In fact ring flashes tend to be used where you want the light as flat as possible.

A big advantage is the control of the incandescent focus assist lights, both units have these. However, on the 24 there is a flash custom function you can set that lets you turn these on with a double half press on the shutter button. This is really important as they time out after 20 seconds or when you fire the flash. Otherwise you have to press a button on the flash control to get them on, this is very inconvenient if you are shooting live subjects. The lights help enormously in poor light or high magnification work so this is more significant than it might sound IMHO.

A big problem with ring flashes with any shiny reflective subject is you can see ring shaped highlights bouncing back, or reflected in bugs eyes, a big problem with jumping spiders for example. With the 24 you do get double highlights but this is much less jarring IMHO

Finally the 24 heads can be used off the flash bracket, the have a little plastic hotshoe style foot so you could mount them away from the lens or even just hold one by hand, I have used them like that to back-light subjects.

Don't discount the MP-E 65mm if you are interested in bugs, it is the premier bug lens.

I have a lot research on macro kit from when I was planning my system you might find of interest http://www.zen20934.zen.co.uk/photography/Macro_Equipment.htm

The main advantage for the ring flash (I don't have one) is it is smaller and does not stickout either side, the only other advantage I can think of is the ring is much cheaper.

To give you an idea here is a picture of the twin flash heads mounted on the MP-E. Each head can be rotated around the lens independently by 180 degrees, or you can just rotate the whole bracket as a unit. It offers much more lighting options and control,

http://www.zen20934.zen.co.uk/photography/macroMTF/MPE%20No%20Hood.jpg

[buzzyrabbit]

Many thanks

[adam LC]

Nice pictures! Are these all 100% crops? I just bought my 100mm macro and I'm trying to get used to it. Some people post some nice hand held pics, but I'm finding it very difficult to hand hold. How are you handholding and getting sharp shots (the closeup pics) without camera shake?
I like using my flash with my 100, helps me get much sharper and more accurate results.

[bufferbure1]

I use mine more as a telephoto lens, it's so sharp and has good reach on 30D:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1146/867241139_c780a9756e.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1113/868094104_c4df41d546.jpg

[MadonnaSurprise]

I just bought this lens from B&H. I'm very new to photography (and suppliers) and was wondering if Japan is the main manufacturer of Canon. Does anyone know the manufacturing and distribution process of canon products. I'm pretty sure B&H is an official distributor of Canon, but not sure.

[TMR Design]

I have to admit that until I started reading about this lens or reading this thread I hadn't really considered getting a macro lens. There's another whole world waiting to be photographed and I think I can see myself getting this lens sometime in the near future.

Beautiful images in this thread. Very inspiring.

[The Ghost of FM]

I just got my copy tonight and looks like I got a good one!

Just an initial test shot of my 17-40 L, taken with the EF100mm f/2.8 macro.

Cheers! :)

[P1X4R]

i love this lens!

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k143/P1X4R_2006/Temp/IMG_1094.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k143/P1X4R_2006/Temp/IMG_1096.jpg

[P1X4R]

my go to lens on the XTi/30D.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w193/p1x4r_2007/tmp/IMG_1280.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w193/p1x4r_2007/tmp/IMG_1281.jpg

[adam LC]

P1X4R: were they taken on the same day?? I'll be honest, the subject you posted before (freaky looking man) didn't work for me... just the subject... not skill. But the black stormtrooper/ tie fighter pilot??? is stunning!!!! and just goes to show that.... "why the F isn't this an "L" lens"! superb shot!!

[P1X4R]

Boris Karloff as Ardeth Bey was taken at night. i love the contours on his face. it plays with the shadow and light very nicely. the Shadow Stormtrooper was taken earlier today near window light. i always find an all black object especially one that is shiny like this one to be extremely hard to capture.

subject content definitely plays a big role in how we get drawn or not towards it. most of my photography are of my collectibles but i'm trying to get more into other aspects like landscape and people.

yup, ya gotta love this lens! :)

[newb2pro_1day_or_so]

I know this is completely out of the blue, but would you recommend I use a hood with canon 100mm f/2.8 macro usm that I just purchased? Also, what filters would be beneficial if I'm not just going to shoot all macro with this lense? Thank you everyone for your great input. This forum has really kicked off my photography spree...also burnt my savings...but who cares, I'm lovin it!

[Lester Wareham]

I know this is completely out of the blue, but would you recommend I use a hood with canon 100mm f/2.8 macro usm that I just purchased? Also, what filters would be beneficial if I'm not just going to shoot all macro with this lense? Thank you everyone for your great input. This forum has really kicked off my photography spree...also burnt my savings...but who cares, I'm lovin it!

Yes get the standard hood, always use a hood with all lenses. The standard hood is quite large so when I am getting very close using ambient light I sometimes use the hood intended for the EF-S 60mm macro, which also fits the 100mm but is much shorter.

Of couse when you are using flash you don't generally use a hood.

Using a protective filter is a personal thing, but it is very easy with a macro lens to push the front element into a bush's twig when stalking insects at low level, so I think it is well worth a protective filter for a macro lens. I use Hoya SHMC Pro 1UV(O) on all my lenses as a protective filter. See the protective filter FAQ linked in my sig for more information.

As for other filters, most filter other than CPs or GND filters are not needed for digital as they can be implemented in PP, the lens has exactly the same filter needs as any other lens. A CP is often very useful for controlling the shine off of leaves but I never use it with insects due to the exposure loss and lack of time to adjust.

[newb2pro_1day_or_so]

Thank you very much. It looks like I'm going to have to take a trip to the camera store and purchase a hood for my 100mm that's in the process of being shipped.

[ben_r_]

The control box looks the same, the 24 is more powerful (obviously).

The major difference is the twin flash heads on the 24 are on a bracket that slips on the lens. These can be rotated round the lens independently to change the angle of the light and the angle between them, also the heads can be tilted in and out to account for different working distances, on the 100mm one setting of the tilt suits all practical working distances.

Both units let you control the lighting ration between the two heads for the 24 and two halves of the ring for the 14. However this modelling ratio will show up more with the 24 due to the wider separation of the heads. In fact ring flashes tend to be used where you want the light as flat as possible.

A big advantage is the control of the incandescent focus assist lights, both units have these. However, on the 24 there is a flash custom function you can set that lets you turn these on with a double half press on the shutter button. This is really important as they time out after 20 seconds or when you fire the flash. Otherwise you have to press a button on the flash control to get them on, this is very inconvenient if you are shooting live subjects. The lights help enormously in poor light or high magnification work so this is more significant than it might sound IMHO.

A big problem with ring flashes with any shiny reflective subject is you can see ring shaped highlights bouncing back, or reflected in bugs eyes, a big problem with jumping spiders for example. With the 24 you do get double highlights but this is much less jarring IMHO

Finally the 24 heads can be used off the flash bracket, the have a little plastic hotshoe style foot so you could mount them away from the lens or even just hold one by hand, I have used them like that to back-light subjects.

Don't discount the MP-E 65mm if you are interested in bugs, it is the premier bug lens.

I have a lot research on macro kit from when I was planning my system you might find of interest http://www.zen20934.zen.co.uk/photography/Macro_Equipment.htm

The main advantage for the ring flash (I don't have one) is it is smaller and does not stickout either side, the only other advantage I can think of is the ring is much cheaper.

To give you an idea here is a picture of the twin flash heads mounted on the MP-E. Each head can be rotated around the lens independently by 180 degrees, or you can just rotate the whole bracket as a unit. It offers much more lighting options and control,

http://www.zen20934.zen.co.uk/photography/macroMTF/MPE%20No%20Hood.jpg

Yes the MP-E 65mm and the MT24-EX Twin light flash is the only way to fly!

[wuselrob]

Hi guys,

I'm searching for a macro lens and fluctuate between this EF 100mm and the EF-S 60mm macro.
I mainly want to take pictures of crabs and shrimps in fish-tanks with a depth of 25 centimeters (the tank). Is the 60mm lens the better choice for this ? I only have a Canon 300D (Rebel).

best wishes from Germany :)
Robert

[G35Driver]

my go to lens on the XTi/30D.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w193/p1x4r_2007/tmp/IMG_1280.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w193/p1x4r_2007/tmp/IMG_1281.jpg
coll mask, looks very authentic, where can I get authentic costumes?

[dellplain]

Just got my lens yesterday. Beyond thrilled with the results. I can't wait to take it out for some field tests. Here are two quick shots that I took last night.

http://www.brianmatiash.com/pix/lens.jpg

http://www.brianmatiash.com/pix/me.jpg

[P1X4R]

Iron Man Stealth armor!

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh285/P1X4R_2008/Sideshow/IM%20Stealth/IMG_2685.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh285/P1X4R_2008/Sideshow/IM%20Stealth/IMG_2686.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh285/P1X4R_2008/Sideshow/IM%20Stealth/IMG_2689.jpg

[The Ghost of FM]

Hi guys,

I'm searching for a macro lens and fluctuate between this EF 100mm and the EF-S 60mm macro.
I mainly want to take pictures of crabs and shrimps in fish-tanks with a depth of 25 centimeters (the tank). Is the 60mm lens the better choice for this ? I only have a Canon 300D (Rebel).

best wishes from Germany :)
Robert
On a crop body camera, the 60mm will effectively work like a 96mm lens due to the 1.6 crop factor of your sensor so if you have no plans of ever going full frame, the 60mm ef-s series lens would do the trick.

But, why not keep your options open by going for the 100mm which will will work on crop and full frame cameras alike? and also give you some additional working distance in case you ever need it for lighting or subject sizing.

Cheers! :)

[Aszental]

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Just got this last week... loving it!