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jhelmphotography.com
27th of August 2003 (Wed), 18:28
http://www.jhelmphotography.com/photos/icons/bluevase.gif

stem to long?

to see it bigger check
http://www.jhelmphotography.com/gallery2welcome.html

http://www.jhelmphotography.com/images/photobannerad.gif

stopbath
28th of August 2003 (Thu), 10:35
I don't think the stem is too long, but I think the tilt of the stem doesn't look correct. The twirl in the vase makes the vase seem tilt to the right, but the stem comes out to the left. Perhaps if the flower was to the right and the stem was straight, the subtle diagonal in the shot would hold true.

Other than that, great shot.

Mark Kemp
28th of August 2003 (Thu), 17:56
No - don't change it! its great as it is.

Your gallery and work are excellent, don't know why you are seeking a crit from us! I wish had half the 'eye' for a photo you obviously do!

stopbath
29th of August 2003 (Fri), 10:31
Mark Kemp wrote:
No - don't change it! its great as it is.

Your gallery and work are excellent, don't know why you are seeking a crit from us! I wish had half the 'eye' for a photo you obviously do!

A critique is just another point of view. It really doesn't matter too much one way or the other. The author's vision is paramount to any of the views of the unwashed who critique it.

Mark Kemp
31st of August 2003 (Sun), 09:21
Hey a critiscism of my critiscism!

Would anyone like to critiscise my critiscism of the critisicism of my critiscism?

I think thats right ???? I have to go now my head hurts -

stopbath
2nd of September 2003 (Tue), 14:12
Mark Kemp wrote:
Hey a critiscism of my critiscism!

Would anyone like to critiscise my critiscism of the critisicism of my critiscism?

I think thats right ???? I have to go now my head hurts -



Sorry, my mistake. I was not giving critiscism of your critiscism. I was trying to make a point that no matter what we say, the author has final judgement to their art.

All we can offer is our input which the author may or may not consider as valid avenues to explore.

Mark Kemp
3rd of September 2003 (Wed), 14:48
Its OK stopbath and I agree with you.

I understand about critiques - I was just trying to pay a compliment in the first place.

The criticism thing was just a joke - my English sense of humour.

It is good that we disagree about the stem of the flower, it would be boring if we all agreed all the time!

Another point of view is always useful.

I am working on getting my homepage up - then I will be hoping for some critiques of my work from this forum too.

Perhaps you will be so kind as to give me your opinions.

stopbath
3rd of September 2003 (Wed), 15:16
I agree with you too.

If everyone said "Great" it critics would be the boringest bunch...

Anyhow, thanks for the go around, it's been fun.

Sure, I'ld like to see your work. Look forward to it.

You can see a rough sample of mine at the link below.

tenerife
3rd of September 2003 (Wed), 20:32
Compliments for your great work...

regards from Tenerife

Klaus

jhelmphotography.com
5th of September 2003 (Fri), 11:35
This critique sparked exactly what I thought it would. And everyone touched on the right subject. A critique is one person's point of view. That's why I do not shoot with a "feeling" when the shutter clicks. I shoot for form and composition and color and light. There really is no point in shooting with a specific feeling in mind, because the viewer has the final say. And all viewers have another point of view. Maybe I shoot to find out what everyone else thinks? Jerry Uelsmann has the same frame of mind when he creates his black and white montages. A critique is just a point of view! - some say the stem is too long others "feel" the flower is too "country" for a fine art piece.

tenerife
5th of September 2003 (Fri), 18:32
A critique is one person's point of view
That's why I do not shoot with a "feeling" when the shutter clicks. I shoot for form and composition and color and light

Yes thats right - but you also need the FEELING...

And i think there are a lot of feeling in your work.

Photography is working with light, contrast and verry importing - composition...

But for me also the feeling of the people behind the camera..

When i shot free photos i like to work with my own emotion...

I whant to say that photos - are presenting (most of the time) the emotion and feeling of the photographer...

Becorse a photo is a moment, second of live...

Regards from Tenerife
klaus

I think a professional photographer has the eye to shot the right spot at the right moment, with the right light and composition - becorse it is his job and prf.
AND if he whant to personally his fotos - he bring his own feeling/emotion,

jhelmphotography.com
11th of September 2003 (Thu), 10:21
I appreciate you comments on the critique. The fact that you think I have a lot of "feeling" in my work shows that YOU have emotions about your photography or as an art lover. You see something in it that I do not. That is why I create. To see if there is a response to a piece emotionally, and what the different emotional responses are from different viewers.

- Joe