Canon 10-22 or Sigma 10-20

[mrtbig]

Have been debating between Canon 10-22 and Sigma 10-20. Basically a $200 difference. Opinions whether it is worth it?

[Headcase650]

The canon is 1/3 or 2/3's a stop faster, other than that its a toss-up. I think the sigma is built better, both are great. The price difference is actually more if you consider that sigma throws in the hood and case, with canon those will be additional purchases. If you upgrade to a 1.3 crop or full frame camera later the canon wont work at all, the sigma will work just fine but will vignette at the wider half. I have the sigma and its great on my 20D so dont hesitate if you want to save the money over the canon.

[Thornfield]

I have the canon and think it's one of the best lenses I have ever had the pleasure of owning. As headcase650 states, you will have to fork out extra for a lens hood with the canon as it does not come with it. When will Canon learn. Overall it's magic. Takes a while to get used to the perspective but once you are it opens up a whole new world.

[farrukh]

The canon is 1/3 or 2/3's a stop faster, other than that its a toss-up. I think the sigma is built better, both are great. The price difference is actually more if you consider that sigma throws in the hood and case, with canon those will be additional purchases. If you upgrade to a 1.3 crop or full frame camera later the canon wont work at all, the sigma will work just fine but will vignette at the wider half. I have the sigma and its great on my 20D so dont hesitate if you want to save the money over the canon.

Absolutely right, I choosen Sigma because of price diffrence, and it comes with hood which is very important for UWA lenses.

Im loving this lens. it's proven slightly better then Canon in terms of sharpness throughout the frame.

[jjonsalt]

I think the sigma is built better...

Yeah, Canon can't even get the zoom ring zooming in the right direction. Canon needs to hire away someone from Sigma that can show them which way the zoom ring should rotate. At least Canon got the focusing ring going in the correct direction. Sigma lenses are more compatable with Canon cameras than Canon is. I won't even look at Sigma's 24-70mm f/2.8 because I'm afraid I'll find out my 24-70L's zoom ring also rotates in the wrong direction. I'd just rather not know.

[Headcase650]

Yeah, Canon can't even get the zoom ring zooming in the right direction. Canon needs to hire away someone from Sigma that can show them which way the zoom ring should rotate. At least Canon got the focusing ring going in the correct direction. Sigma lenses are more compatable with Canon cameras than Canon is.

Go into a store and handle both these lenses hand in hand, the sigma is built better. The EX line are more robust than canons consumer usm lenses. Who said anything about compatability? They both work as they should, its fact that efs wont fit onto a 1D or 5D but you sure can put the sigma on a 1D and get no vignetting at about 15 or 16mm? Who cares what direction the zoom ring turns, its personal preferance. My sigma 10-20 is very smoth, my "CANON" 28-135 IS with USM has a very grabby zoom ring and if you let the camera hang from your neck the thing creaps all the way out. Where is the quality in that and theres only about a $50 price difference between them.

Purest's realy need to take the time to try out the products they are bashing.

[Tsmith]

Never held the Sigma but love my Canon EF-S 10-22mm. Its very sharp even at wide open apertures. fstopjojo did some side by side testing but he must not be allowing linking to his galleries and I haven't read a bad review from any of the camera sites on the Canon. Handles CA and Flare better than the competition according to the reviews. You can't go wrong with either.

[Tangledlines]

hmm, I've been debating the same purchase recently and was pretty sold on the fact the canon was the better lens, but I like the encouraging words for the sigma. My wallet would be alot happier with the cheaper lens, so I may have to give this more thought.

[cjm]

Ever consider the Tokina 12-24mm? It seems to be a great alternative and a high quality lens. B&H sells them also.

[jjonsalt]

Who cares what direction the zoom ring turns...

Well, it appears Canon doesn't. Who knows what else they got wrong? Take my 24-70L for instance, Canon has got the lens zooming out as the focal length widens, what crap. I mean, Sigma, Tamron and Tokina have the lens zooming in as the focal length widens (the way it should be). And then, just because Canon got the zooming direction wrong they stick on this gosh-awful large hood that is actually effective through the focal range of the lens. The 3rd party lenses in the 24/28-70/75/80ish zoom range use a nice small hood that is not so ackward looking.

[Raj]

There will be people who will swear by both the lenses.
Bottomline, both the lenses are excellent & dont do anythig drastically different.
Canon gurantees you future compatibility but at higher cost, sigma gives you same IQ but at a lower cost minus *possible* future issues, but this , most probably is not a showstopper.

Good luck :-)

[kram]

I was open to all threeand ended up with the Tokina. Having held the Sigma and the Tokina, it is true what everyone else said about Tokina being built like a tank. It feels that way and weighs more too ;)

Really couldnt find much to differentiate and choose one among the three - except on price. Ruled out Canon based on that and I finally made the decision at the shop between Tokina and Sigma based on a much lower price.

[Lester Wareham]

Have been debating between Canon 10-22 and Sigma 10-20. Basically a $200 difference. Opinions whether it is worth it?

I have the Canon at it is a nice sharp lens and well made.

I know the Sigma did not do well compared to the Canon in tests, but I don't know if this was an early model problem or is more general.

Bob has a review of the Canon at http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/reviews/ef-s_10-22_review.html

Tests of my own copy are at http://www.zen20934.zen.co.uk/photography/LensTests/EF-S_10-22mm_f3.5-4.5_USM/index.htm.

[RAitch]

Well, it appears Canon doesn't. Who knows what else they got wrong? Take my 24-70L for instance, Canon has got the lens zooming out as the focal length widens, what crap. I mean, Sigma, Tamron and Tokina have the lens zooming in as the focal length widens (the way it should be). And then, just because Canon got the zooming direction wrong they stick on this gosh-awful large hood that is actually effective through the focal range of the lens. The 3rd party lenses in the 24/28-70/75/80ish zoom range use a nice small hood that is not so ackward looking.
If I'm not mistaken, the hood is also fixed on the body of the lens. If it was to extend when zooming tight and retract when going wide, you'd end up with serious vignetting for wide shots and massive flare for zoomed shots. The alternative would be to mount the hood on the extension part (ala 24-105L).

I think this is an ingenious solution. Who cares if the optics are geared so the barrel is longer for wide shots? If it works, IT WORKS!

Your post sounds more like a whine than a valid argument. Either way, I don't see what the problem is.

Back on track, I'm also interested in the differences between these lenses. I'll have my eye on an UWA for the future to go with my 24-105L. I was thinking Canon... but now I'll have to do a further compare against the Siggy. Thanks for the info.

[jjonsalt]

I think this is an ingenious solution. Who cares if the optics are geared so the barrel is longer for wide shots? If it works, IT WORKS!


I just think Canon should get with Sigma, et and find out which way things are suspost go. It's one thing for Canon and their "L" owners to brag about the superior features of their lenses, but quite another thing to really be superior. Don't you think?

[Jon]

I just think Canon should get with Sigma, et and find out which way things are suspost go. It's one thing for Canon and their "L" owners to brag about the superior features of their lenses, but quite another thing to really be superior. Don't you think?Canon has gone in the Leica mode from the early days of the company. Nikon went along with Contax. Once the two Japanese companies stabilized the lens mounts they'd use in their rangefinders, they locked in the focus, and later zoom, directions to correspond to their German muses.

[jjonsalt]

Well, I'm really starting to get irked now. Here I am stuck with a Canon 20D and Canon's 24-70L while Sigma and the other 3rd party companies do it right. I already have lenses, flashes, et for my system and swiching to Sigma just wouldn't be easy. Stupid 24-70L that uses a lens hood arrangement that is effective at blocking stray light it's entire focal range. Canon, get off your high horse and study how Sigma and company does their stuff with nice little lens hoods, so what if they don't work well, at least they look good.

[RAitch]

LOL, this is rediculous. You don't deserve that gear then. Send it to me immediately.
And damn Canon for using a hood that blocks stray light for the entire focal range... what were they thinking? :shock:

Thanks for making me laugh at least once today though. This is pretty funny.

What next? Are you going to complain about pushing the 20D power switch down in order to move the selector up?

[jjonsalt]

You don't deserve that gear then. Send it to me immediately.





My 135L too? It's got a large funny looking hood.

Thanks for making me laugh at least once today...

Please send $1 to the "JJonSalt Foundation" % your local postmaster.

[RAitch]

Especially the 135L.
The money's in the mail.