Top 5 major differences of Canon 10D vs 300D

[tony723]

Hi all,

I saw hit debates about the new Canon 300D compare to 10D. Many are considering the new model with price drop around US$500 but some still consider 10D is a must because of the major difference between two models.

For fair comparison, maybe we can share our view the top 5 major differences between 10D and 300D:

1. price difference (~US$500)

2. magnesium alloy body vs plastic body (and color)

3. selectable AF mode + metering (automatic in 300D)

4. memory buffer (3fps, 9p vs 2.5fps, 4p)

5. custom functions (no CF in 300D)

Other difference not sure e.g. the shutter time lag, etc

[Seaman]

After study the specs from canon.co.jp, the main differences are :

300D has
1) NO Flash exposure compensation, that means you can't adjust the output level of the built-in flash
2) NO PC terminal, so
3) Can't update the firmare by user
4) NO custom functions

Of cos, there are some slightly differences.
300D has titanium-like plastic body layout vs 10D metallic body
300D has 2.5 fps vs 10D 3 fps
300D has max 4 shoots on continuing shooting vs 10D has 9 shots.
300D has battery life of 600 shots (no flash) & 400 shots (50% flash

use) vs 10D has 650 shots / 500 shots.

Hope these information is useful to all EOS users or future EOS users.

[PacAce]

Seaman wrote:
2) NO PC terminal, so
3) Can't update the firmare by user


I don't think the PC terminal has any bearing on whether the firmware can be updated on the 300D by the user or not. The PC terminal is used for attaching an external flash to the camera without using the hotshoe connector.

Firmware updates are usually done by either downloading the new firmware to the CF card and then inserting the card into the camera or by downloading the new firmware directly into the camera via the digital (USB) port of the camera.

[Carbon]

I'm interested in the shutter specs for the two cameras. For example, the shutter in the D60 has a much longer projected life than the one in the D30. Replace the shutter once or twice (costs in the hundreds of US$) and you've just bought yourself a plastic 10D.

Also, the metallic skin on the 10D is just that... a skin. It might look good and feel cool, but it's the metal substructure inside that really counts. For instance, the designers wouldn't dream of mounting the lenses to the skin, they mount to the substructure. I'll bet lots of the Digital Rebel's weight savings come from a lighter (and weaker) substructure. Probably fine for most users, but I think heavier users might kill it.

[Aylwin]

One difference I've noticed (looking at the specs on DP Review) is that the 10D supports EXIF while the 300D supports EXIF2.2.

What's the difference? Does EXIF2.2 have any practical advantage?

[Seaman]

PacAce wrote:
Seaman wrote:
2) NO PC terminal, so
3) Can't update the firmare by user


I don't think the PC terminal has any bearing on whether the firmware can be updated on the 300D by the user or not. The PC terminal is used for attaching an external flash to the camera without using the hotshoe connector.

Firmware updates are usually done by either downloading the new firmware to the CF card and then inserting the card into the camera or by downloading the new firmware directly into the camera via the digital (USB) port of the camera.


Oh thanks to PacAce about the method of updating the frimware.

[phidong]

"The 'Exchangeable image file format for Digital Still Camera' describes what format the image files from digital cameras should take and what additional information should be embedded in the file header (almost all current digital cameras use EXIF 2.1). The new 2.2 standard is interesting because it includes a special portion specifically designed to be interpreted by printer drivers / printers to enable them to perform accurate image adjustment before printing (a bit like Epson's PIM)."


EXIF 2.2 Principal tag information
+Shooting Conditions
Flash
Exposure mode (auto, manual, bracket)
White balance
Exposure time
Light source
Subject distance
Subject area
+Processing Information during Shooting
Captured scene type (portrait, landscape, night scene)
Digital zoom
Custom rendered (special effects)
Contrast
Saturation
Sharpness
Gain Control (ISO?)

[Aylwin]

phidong, thanks for the info!

[Andy_T]

As the 300D is not available yet, I just got my hands on a 300V in a photo shop.

This - as I understand it - is the film version of the 300D.

To make a long story short, the outer appearance of the camera did not really convince me. Comparing it to the D10, it did not really appear like a $1000 camera to me, rather like something in the $150 price range:(. Also, the 28-90 lens (standard on the 300D) seemed to be a little flimsy.

Please forgive if my criticism is a little harsh, but that's just my personal impression. Also, holding it in your hands in the photo shop is no substitution for a foto session with it.

Regards,
Andy