Cokin P System

[synapz]

How many people have the cokin p sytem on there camera? If you do can you please tell me if you recomend it?

[Bindii]

I have the cokin p system, with a reasonable collection of filters and find it very good. Mind you since changing to digital and using photoshop I find myself using it less and less these days....

[synapz]

I have the cokin p system, with a reasonable collection of filters and find it very good. Mind you since changing to digital and using photoshop I find myself using it less and less these days....

but with things like polarizing and making the sunset vibrant, its hard to do that in PS correct?

[Bindii]

Not really, you can add colour filter layers to enhance a sunset...I'm not too sure on the polarising thing though...I still use a filter for that.

[Double Negative]

I have the Cokin A system from back in the 80's.

I might suggest the Cokin filter holder, but getting HiTech ND filters, for example. The Cokin NDs aren't really neutral - they're grey. You could use a Cokin CPL however.

As for all the other "effect" filters - take a pass. ;)

[Tsmith]

I have the Cokin A system from back in the 80's.

I might suggest the Cokin filter holder, but getting HiTech ND filters, for example. The Cokin NDs aren't really neutral - they're grey. You could use a Cokin CPL however.

As for all the other "effect" filters - take a pass. ;)

I agree on getting the Hitech brand filters. I have the Cokin 85P wide angle setup (only allows for one filter) and works down to 10mm without any vignetting. You can use it with a Polarizer starting around 15mm.

[Double Negative]

but with things like polarizing and making the sunset vibrant, its hard to do that in PS correct?
You can do much to enhance colors, etc. but you can't reproduce the effect of a polarizer in PS. Things like removing glare and reflections. It also increases saturation of skies and vegetation - which you could recreate if you wanted to...

I love polarizers (at least for what I tend to shoot) and wouldn't be without one. I have one to fit every lens I own (luckily only three sizes; 52, 72 and 77mm).

[synapz]

ive got the system on my lens now but do i have to losen the adapter in order to turn the filter? If u know what i mean. Ive screwed the adapter with the filter into my lens untill it cant be screwed no more. But when its likle this i cant rotate the filter. I have to losten the adapter to turn the filter but this gives a danger of me turning the filter one step to far and the adapter screwing off the lens lol. Anyone understand?

Is this suposed to happen?

[::John::]

I have the P system.

Did you get 3 components?

I have the lens adaptor (the bit that screws into the lens)
the filter holder (that clips onto the adaptor)
and the filter (that slides into the filter holder).

The filter holder rotates easily on the adaptor ring.

Is your system like this?

[Double Negative]

You should be able to turn the filter by the edges when it's in the holder...

[synapz]

IVe got a 58 mm adapter threaded into my lens and the filter holder sloted onto the adapter. But i cant turn the filter holder unless i losten the adapter thread. Meaning then i can turn the filter holder but turn the adapter at the same time. Like this when im turning the filter holder the adapter is getting loser from the lens. Get me?

[::John::]

Yeah - got it. Strange, though. I have the exact setup (with the 58mm, 77mm and 82mm adaptors) and I have just gone and checked on the 58mm - it rotates just fine. Sorry. Did you buy yours from a store? Are you able to take it to be checked there or somewhere?

[zacker]

i have the conkin p system for my camera for my nd grad filter... works great
-zacker-

[clipper_from_oz]

I too am looking at the Cokin System as Im finding that with landscape shots at the wide end Im blowing out the skiy more often than not so a ND graduating filter etc looks the go for me.

I have a question re the system.....Can anyone tell me if I will get any vignetting using a 17-85 efs at the wide end ?(17mm). I ask only because with the efs lens I have very minor vignetting with a circular polariser filter because the filter is thicker than a normal filter...Will the adapter effect this?

Thanks

[Tsmith]

clipper there's no guarantee but if your like me and only ever plan on using just one filter at a time so I opted for the Cokin wide angle (single slot) 85P setup.

Some lens due to design quality will vignette more than others on the wide end. Kinda funny I had an Sigma 18-125mm that did at 18mm but my Canon EF-S 10-22mm doesn't at 10mm.

[clipper_from_oz]

clipper there's no guarantee but if your like me and only ever plan on using just one filter at a time so I opted for the Cokin wide angle (single slot) 85P setup.

Some lens due to design quality will vignette more than others on the wide end. Kinda funny I had an Sigma 18-125mm that did at 18mm but my Canon EF-S 10-22mm doesn't at 10mm.


Thanks Bluedog..........I will look at the 85P setup tomorrow when I go visit the local camera bloke here in Melbourne

[Double Negative]

I would opt for some HiTech or Lee NDs over the Cokin ones...

[Poe]

http://www.cokin.com/ico3-p1-6.html

Could someone explain the difference between the following filters:

121
121L
121M
121S
121F

Looks to me like 121S,L & F are the trio of 1 stop, 2 stop and 3 stop filters, but I'm confused between 121 and 121S. It seems like 121 and 121F are the same filter, but the darkening of the sample photos is very different. And 121 is S for "soft"? I don't see any "hard" ones. BTW, I'm looking to get the trio of 1, 2, and 3 stop filters, so I'd like to know which ones to get and which ones aren't the correct filters.

Also, is 120 just a ND filter and not a GND?

[Poe]

no one has any answers?

[Jon]

Looks like the 121S is a soft grad while the 121 is a hard grad and the 121F is a "full width" soft grad (no clear - graduated across the entire filter width).

[Poe]

Thanks for the reply.

[Tapeman]

I got the regular P holder and cut off the outside holders - no more vinyetting with WA lenses.

[garjor]

Cokin Z pro system allows you to reverse the filter holder to avoid vigneting with objetives of 20mm or less so no need to cut off.
It is said that today with Photoshop you only need a polarizing filter (maybe also grad neutral if you have to provide the raw file to prove you have not manipulated the image).
Regards

[Lesmac]

I agree Lee's or Hitech are better than cokin's, but at a price.
My view, is go for the cokin P system (as long as you are not using very wide lenses), they are cheap and cheerful, but do the job very well.
Cheers

Les

[AdamJL]

I have the P series set up as well.

I have a ND one stop, a grad ND 2 stop, a grad blue (there are loads of different blues!) and a grad orange (and loads of different oranges!). Not sure there's much more I want to get... maybe a warming filter, but that can be done in PS.
And I prefer a Hoya polariser to a Cokin one.

[sky31738]

I have several Cokin filters from my film days. I still use the Vari-colour filters my all time fav being the Blue/Yellow Polarizer

[Jon]

I use the Cokin P holders for my Singh-Ray ND grads.