Should I even consider EF-S

[chakras]

Ok, this is my dilemma. I have a Rebel XT and I am looking for one wide and the other macro lens.

For wide I have the following choices,
Canon EF-S 10-22mm 3.5-4.5 USM vs Tokina AT-X 124 AF Pro DX 12-24mm f/4

For macro I have the following options,
Canon EF-S 60mm f/2.8 vs Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM

Is investing in EF-S lens wise? I mean will it be phased out in future? I don't want to be stuck with two unusable lens. Actually I have kind of decided on the Tokina lens for the fixed aperture over the entire range and price. Thanks for your response.

[Billginthekeys]

sounds like u have ur mind made up on the UWA. but id reccomend the 100 for the macro. better working distance and its a EF lens

[ddelallata]

The recent introduction of the new EF-S lens with IS and a max aperture of f/2.8 leads me to believe that EF-S is here to stay. I doubt that Canon would have invested so much money in R+D to drop them in this line in the next couple of years.

[Double Negative]

IMO, you'll be able to use EF lenses for the foreseeable future, if not the rest of your life. I don't put nearly as much faith in EF-S. The 5D doesn't support them. None of the pro bodies support them. If you don't plan on going that route, EF-S would make a fine choice as I don't believe Canon will abandon the format any time soon - but how long will they?

[cfcRebel]

It does not matter if EF-S phases out next year or next decade, IMHO. If you need the focal length for certain type of shot, you need the focal length. If you want photos produced by a 10mm ultra wide lens on your XT, getting a EF lens, 17-40mm for example, will not give you the effect unless you already plan going full frame next month.

[Mikelangelo]

I would recommend the 100mm Macro over the ef-s 60. I have the 60 and I LOVE the lens, however, they are very comparable in price and you get a little extra working distance with the 100.

The 60 is nice and small and very easy to work with, tho'. It's also doubling as a portrait lens...but I don't think EF-S is going anywhere. However, if you ever plan to upgrade to a 5D, a 1D, etc... then I would stick to EF lenses. If you're sticking with your Rebel XT, or a 30D, etc... then you're EFS lenses will work forever...plus they're a litlte cheaper (supposedly).

[nomorebs]

I believe EF-S is here to stay. The new 17-55 2.8 IS is one of the reasons, the 30D is another. I think you will be able to use EF-S lenses for the foreseeable future.

Would I buy EF-S lenses? YES! I need the 10-22 and I want the 17-55.

[forsakenme720]

Ok, this is my dilemma. I have a Rebel XT and I am looking for one wide and the other macro lens.

For wide I have the following choices,
Canon EF-S 10-22mm 3.5-4.5 USM vs Tokina AT-X 124 AF Pro DX 12-24mm f/4

For macro I have the following options,
Canon EF-S 60mm f/2.8 vs Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM

Is investing in EF-S lens wise? I mean will it be phased out in future? I don't want to be stuck with two unusable lens. Actually I have kind of decided on the Tokina lens for the fixed aperture over the entire range and price. Thanks for your response.

You should also consider the Sigma 105mm macro. It has the same IQ as the Canon and is about $100 cheaper. Between the Canon 10-22 and Tokina 12-24. I would take the Canon becase it is 2mm wider (which is a lot on the wide end) and so what if the Tokina is f4 constant, the 3.5-4.5 range is virtually the same thing. You wouldn't notice a difference in brightness. Plus, you'd be using the wide end more often than the long end and the canon is 3.5 on the wide end. Personally, I'm gonna get the Sigma 10-20mm because it's much cheaper than the Canon and is still excellent quality. But to each his own.

[cjm]

Please EF lens will be around for a long time. If Canon replaced their perfection with something else, many of us might not renew our "friendship" to Canon and look at the other options. Options like Nokin who might stick with their lens line.

EF lens will be around for at least 10 more years. EF-S lens? I can imagine a Pro body some day that will allow both EF and EF-S lens.

[jedwards]

I think Canon will be sticking with EF-S as long as they will stick with EF. There will always be good uses for a less expensive sensor application, and crop camera's do have some advantages. Personally, the only issue I've had was finding a good wide angle and good walk around since switching from film, but with the new lenses available (10-22, 17-xx) these issues have been resolved. As a side benefit, my 200L acts like a longer lens and still retains it's 2.8 aperature and weight.

Also, if you do plan to upgrade to a Full Frame camera, you may need to rearrange your lenses anyhow, as the crop factor does lead you to use lenses differently. An 85mm becomes a bit too "long" on a crop, and may have a different use on a crop camera vs. FF.

[cjm]

Well EF is just the mount of the lens. I can't see anything wrong with it or its design. It is perfection compaired to their old mounts.

[Double Negative]

Well EF is just the mount of the lens. I can't see anything wrong with it or its design. It is perfection compaired to their old mounts.
Nothing wrong with the FD mount. It has served well for several decades. The older breech lock design left a little something to be desired, but it worked pretty well also.

[Papaw]

I just got the EF-S 60 Macro and need a lot of practice at capturing the small creatures but was very pleased at the portrait type results it gives. It is a very sharp prime lens and the focal length is a very popular length on a 1.6 crop. This is the first shot taken with this lense - however, as you can see, I need a lot more practice.


http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i46/jdewell/IMG_0166.jpg

[chakras]

Thank you all for your insightful replies. I understand it is so difficult to predict what is going to happen, unless you are the MD of Canon :lol:

EF lens will be around for at least 10 more years. EF-S lens? I can imagine a Pro body some day that will allow both EF and EF-S lens. I doubt that Canon would have invested so much money in R+D to drop them in this line in the next couple of years. I think Canon will be sticking with EF-S as long as they will stick with EF. I believe EF-S is here to stay This looks so reasonable. Or someone should come up with an adapter on the EF mount to take EF-S lens. Something like the extention tubes.;)

I would recommend the 100mm Macro over the ef-s 60...It's also doubling as a portrait lens... but id reccomend the 100 for the macro Point taken. I was also biased towards 100, but again 60 can double as a good portrait lens :confused:

Between the Canon 10-22 and Tokina 12-24. I would take the Canon becase it is 2mm wider If you need the focal length for certain type of shot, you need the focal length. If you want photos produced by a 10mm ultra wide lens on your XT, getting a EF lens, 17-40mm for example, will not give you the effect unless you already plan going full frame next month. I wanted to have a wide lens for landscapes when I go out. With 1.6 multiplication factor, I have to look for ultra wide to compensate. I don't think I would ever need anything wider than 20-22mm though. I could as well have looked into 17-55 EF-S, but that is expensive and I would prefer not to pay for the IS that I don't require.

I guess for me it is back to the board and decide :(. You all have been so helpful. Thanks all.

[Cathpah]

in the end you'll always be able to sell your ef-s to someone else who still has a crop camera. If in ten years there aren't any more crop cameras being made, and most people have moved to a full frame and you can't sell it....oh well, you already got your money's worth by using it for ten years.

I got the 10-22 ef-S and LOVE it. no regrets whatsoever, even though I plan on moving to a 5d someday hopefully soon. 10-22's last about an hour on average on the buy/sell board....quite the high demand for used ones.

edit: oh, and look at the 10-22 sample shots thread. it will make your mind up for you. :)

[chakras]

Thanks Papaw. I took so much time composing the previous mail, I didn't notice your post. That is a real sharp picture. Looks like you got a real sharp copy of the lens.

[chakras]

edit: oh, and look at the 10-22 sample shots thread. it will make your mind up for you. :)

He.. He.. I have seen samples of 10-22, and they are extremely good. But it is around $200 more expensive than the Tokina - I have to justify that to my wife :lol::lol:. But maybe... ...:cool:

[Cathpah]

He.. He.. I have seen samples of 10-22, and they are extremely good. But it is around $200 more expensive than the Tokina - I have to justify that to my wife :lol::lol:. But maybe... ...:cool:

those 2mm really do make a difference. I LOVE my new 10-22 because of the 10mm view. I think it actually helped subside my desire for a fisheye for now. 10mm is REALLY wide and sometimes that can be needed or very desirable. One great shot that is just that much better being at 10 instead of 12 will certainly be worth the 200 dollars in the end.

no matter what....good luck with the wife.