condyk
28th of April 2006 (Fri), 09:29
Ok, let's do the sums for a Carbon Fibre and Magnesium tripod that is more than fit for purpose, ever for a larger lens, well built, light, stable and also comes with a very decent Magnesium ball head. Here in the UK we're talking around Ģ270 or so delivered for say a Manfrotto 55 CF with Manfrotto 488 ballhead. Very nice indeed.
But what if you could get pretty much the same for half that price? Would you be silly to take a chance on an unknown brand just to save some cash? Let's face it tripod technology isn't exactly rocket science, so the design side isn't going to be any big deal. What we need to look out for is any corner cutting. I am fussy. I am also unwilling to spend out for a brand name unless I am really adding value to my photography.
So, my original shortlist finally included the 190 and 55 CF Manfrotto's, the 2227 Gitzo or another Feisol (very nice, had two from them before). I am not a big tripod user and I needed one for travel so 4 section and carbon fibre was essential to keep size and weight down. My experience is also that a lighter tripod will be carried and used. A heavy one will stay at home or in the car boot!
I'm thinking the Manfrotto 190 Cf is the one and then I do a final check on Dynatran that a couple of guys had mentioned in the past. i am a tight wad. Why not check 'em out. The reviews are good. I respect what they guys say. They are real world shooters not brand collectors. They are like me.
I check my options there. I see there is a realistic chance I can save Ģ100 or so and lose nothing worth worrying about. I check the images. I am a bit worried about build. I take a chance and bid. I lose a few because they go higher than I want to pay. I lose a Gitzo. I enquire about a SH 190 but more expensive than I can get new ... and he sells it anyway. I bid on a couple more. Finally, I bid and win ;)
So, for we UK types the risk is always import charges when buying overseas. I ended up paying VAT and a Ģ13.50 collection fee. I paid extra P&P for the USPS option as I'd never been hit before via that route but I was this time. I should have saved and gone with UPS. In total, I paid Ģ110 for the tripod, head and P&P from the US and then I paid an extra Ģ28 on top for import related charges. For Ģ138 it is a very decent set of legs, a very nice ballhead and I got excellent service from Amvona. I'm quite sure it'll meet my needs. Is the Gitzo twice as good :lol: :lol: No! Is the Gitzo 'cooler', yes! Do I care ... :cool: Excellent purchase.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri1.jpg
The top of the legs/centre column area is very strong and well put together. very easy to adjust the legs, either single standard position or any variation you like.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri2.jpg
The carry strap is strong with a very easy and secure screw in connection at the top and the bottom fixes to the centre strut hook (see below). Also comes with a decent bag with front pocket, a bag for adding weight/stability once 'erect', if you need it in windy conditions, and an adjustment tool.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri3.jpg
The feet have soft rubber cups which can be easily removed. Nice for my wood floors.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri4.jpg
The hook looks like cheap plastic but it is actually a very light metal; perhaps magnesium. Plenty strong enough to hang a bag.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri5.jpg
The leg locks are secure and easy to use. They have a semi soft rubber coating which seems nicer than using a harder plastic. Easy to put up and take down tho' not as quick as clips.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri7.jpg
The ballhead fixes to a solid plate on the top of the centre column. It is strong and secure but I'd have preferred to be able to remove the centre column, as I did with my ex Feisol. It is fine tho' and adds very little weight while giving the option of use in the field. This shows the Manfrotto head, which I have always been happy with.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri8.jpg
Each leg has a sponge holding area at the top which is nice if the weather is a bit chilly. You can also rest it on your shoulder comfortably. As you can see it is plenty tall enough. I am 5'10' and with the head and 30D camera added it is probably an inch too tall for me in bare feet. No need to extend the centre column. For a six footer it will be ideal.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri9.jpg
Here we see the ballhead. It is their top of the range Magnesium H96 model and light but strong and easy to use. The QR plate is included. I am wedded to my Manfrotto, despite the heavier weight, as I have a few RC2 QR plates and I am now used to it. The Dynatran head is perfectly decent and I would otherwise by happy to use it. The plate is twice the size of the RC2's and very secure. Impossible to move when clamped and also very smooth in all respects, so I am confident it is a very good bit of kit. The panning action is nice and silky.
But what if you could get pretty much the same for half that price? Would you be silly to take a chance on an unknown brand just to save some cash? Let's face it tripod technology isn't exactly rocket science, so the design side isn't going to be any big deal. What we need to look out for is any corner cutting. I am fussy. I am also unwilling to spend out for a brand name unless I am really adding value to my photography.
So, my original shortlist finally included the 190 and 55 CF Manfrotto's, the 2227 Gitzo or another Feisol (very nice, had two from them before). I am not a big tripod user and I needed one for travel so 4 section and carbon fibre was essential to keep size and weight down. My experience is also that a lighter tripod will be carried and used. A heavy one will stay at home or in the car boot!
I'm thinking the Manfrotto 190 Cf is the one and then I do a final check on Dynatran that a couple of guys had mentioned in the past. i am a tight wad. Why not check 'em out. The reviews are good. I respect what they guys say. They are real world shooters not brand collectors. They are like me.
I check my options there. I see there is a realistic chance I can save Ģ100 or so and lose nothing worth worrying about. I check the images. I am a bit worried about build. I take a chance and bid. I lose a few because they go higher than I want to pay. I lose a Gitzo. I enquire about a SH 190 but more expensive than I can get new ... and he sells it anyway. I bid on a couple more. Finally, I bid and win ;)
So, for we UK types the risk is always import charges when buying overseas. I ended up paying VAT and a Ģ13.50 collection fee. I paid extra P&P for the USPS option as I'd never been hit before via that route but I was this time. I should have saved and gone with UPS. In total, I paid Ģ110 for the tripod, head and P&P from the US and then I paid an extra Ģ28 on top for import related charges. For Ģ138 it is a very decent set of legs, a very nice ballhead and I got excellent service from Amvona. I'm quite sure it'll meet my needs. Is the Gitzo twice as good :lol: :lol: No! Is the Gitzo 'cooler', yes! Do I care ... :cool: Excellent purchase.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri1.jpg
The top of the legs/centre column area is very strong and well put together. very easy to adjust the legs, either single standard position or any variation you like.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri2.jpg
The carry strap is strong with a very easy and secure screw in connection at the top and the bottom fixes to the centre strut hook (see below). Also comes with a decent bag with front pocket, a bag for adding weight/stability once 'erect', if you need it in windy conditions, and an adjustment tool.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri3.jpg
The feet have soft rubber cups which can be easily removed. Nice for my wood floors.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri4.jpg
The hook looks like cheap plastic but it is actually a very light metal; perhaps magnesium. Plenty strong enough to hang a bag.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri5.jpg
The leg locks are secure and easy to use. They have a semi soft rubber coating which seems nicer than using a harder plastic. Easy to put up and take down tho' not as quick as clips.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri7.jpg
The ballhead fixes to a solid plate on the top of the centre column. It is strong and secure but I'd have preferred to be able to remove the centre column, as I did with my ex Feisol. It is fine tho' and adds very little weight while giving the option of use in the field. This shows the Manfrotto head, which I have always been happy with.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri8.jpg
Each leg has a sponge holding area at the top which is nice if the weather is a bit chilly. You can also rest it on your shoulder comfortably. As you can see it is plenty tall enough. I am 5'10' and with the head and 30D camera added it is probably an inch too tall for me in bare feet. No need to extend the centre column. For a six footer it will be ideal.
http://www.buzzdns.com/tri9.jpg
Here we see the ballhead. It is their top of the range Magnesium H96 model and light but strong and easy to use. The QR plate is included. I am wedded to my Manfrotto, despite the heavier weight, as I have a few RC2 QR plates and I am now used to it. The Dynatran head is perfectly decent and I would otherwise by happy to use it. The plate is twice the size of the RC2's and very secure. Impossible to move when clamped and also very smooth in all respects, so I am confident it is a very good bit of kit. The panning action is nice and silky.