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okiebass101
28th of April 2006 (Fri), 20:54
I've started this three times .. so here goes .. i took this team photo.. and sent it to my printer.. only for him to tell me the managers will be cut off partially? what am i doing to make these to long? any help would be great .. this is my first time trying team stuff..do i need to move back or just squeeze player closer together...? please help!

http://AllensPhoto.smugmug.com/photos/66769235-M.jpg

Canon EOS 20D Size: 3504x2336 Bytes: 4081088 Aperture: f/6.3 ISO: 200 Focal Length: 35mm (guess: 38mm in 35mm) Exposure Time: 0.005s (1/200)Flash:Flash fired, compulsory flash mode, red-eye reduction modeExposure Program:Aperture priorityExposure Bias:0ColorSpace:sRGB

Livinthalife
28th of April 2006 (Fri), 20:59
the picture appears to be long. I would check the properties of the photo in PS and crop as needed to attain a 8x10. it looks like you have some space on the side you could lop off to get your 8x10.
hope that helps!

img size- whould allow you to resize to 8x10 also, so you know for sure if the image will print before doing so

SWPhotoImaging
28th of April 2006 (Fri), 21:13
Remember when shooting that your sensor and viewfinder are 3:2 ratio or like a 6x9 print, rather than 4:5 ratio or like an 8x10 print.
If you know you'll want 8x10 prints, don't run the subject out to the edges of a landscape shot. Keep the subject in the middle two-thirds of the viewfinder, with empty space to the sides that you can crop off to get the right ratio. You can do this by backing up a little, or by grouping tighter in more tiers (rows) of people.

To save these shots, just get 6x9 mats for 9x12 frames, and remember to go for an 8x10 composition next time.

okiebass101
28th of April 2006 (Fri), 22:56
Thanks for the help .. my printer guy had left a e-mail . saying we could go the 9x12 route... steven thanks .. i think i am trying to fill the frame in landscape .. after taking the photo i said i would liked to have had them in three rows don't know why i didn't ... lessons learned..

mbze430
28th of April 2006 (Fri), 23:02
before you print, you might want to fix the sky.

Zepher
30th of April 2006 (Sun), 21:45
This is my peev with online printing. When I shot film, I told my lab to print "full frame" and they knew that I wanted the full picture to fit 8x10.

for the pic above, the only way to get full frame 8x10 would be to add more ground and sky, or cut off the people on the end, or squeeze the picture making everyone tall and skinny.

you could also create a custom matte,
http://www.transamws6.com/pics/digicam/cardinals.jpg

added more sky and ground,
http://www.transamws6.com/pics/digicam/8x10-team.jpg

tim
2nd of May 2006 (Tue), 04:23
This is why when I shoot groups I make sure I leave some room on each end of the photo - for 8x10s. Sometimes I can't leave the space, I just tell people they can have a 6x9 or an 8x12 rather than an 8x10.

dmp-potn
2nd of May 2006 (Tue), 04:52
Hello,

The problem, as others have said, is that your in-camera cropping is too tight. For these shots, it's best to step back a bit (or zoom out) so that you don't have folks standing too close to both edges of the frame. I try to make sure that there is no one standing past the far left and right auto-focus points, for example.

Here's what your photo will look like when cropped to an 8x10 (try this yourself in Photoshop):

http://dsnyder.ws-e.com/photos/potn/team-crop.jpg

In this particular case, you're lucky. Open the photo in Photoshop and set the crop tool to "10 in x 8 in". Maximize the image on the screen and zoom about a bit. Draw your crop around the entire image, and then grab one of the corners and move it outside of the image. You want to adjust the crop so that it's perfectly aligned with the left and right sides of the images, but extending a bit outside of the image on the top and bottom. This is easier if you have "snap" turned on.

Another way to do this is to expand the canvas, but that might actually require you to do some math--so I like the crop method better.

Once that's done, grab the clone brush, alt-click on a bit of grass, and fill in the bottom of the frame with more grass. Do the same for the the sky in the top of the frame. When you're done, you'll have something like this:

http://dsnyder.ws-e.com/photos/potn/team-large.jpg

Hope this helps!