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dehrle
5th of September 2003 (Fri), 13:52
All,
I just ordered a 10D after reading all the reviews. Blew my budget on the camera. Now, I need a lense and compact flash memory. Before coming to this forum I was looking at the new Sigma 28-300 2.8/5.6 Compact lense - it got some good reviews (for the price). However, I do not want to be out in the cold if a focus problem occurs. Also, what speed of compact flash should I buy (12x, 40x, 52x), and any brand suggestions?
scottbergerphoto
5th of September 2003 (Fri), 13:59
I think most people would recommend you get the Canon 50mm f/1.4 to start with, followed by lots of "L" glass once your fully addicted. As far as compact flash, read the following:http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-6111 . I use the Sandisk Ultra 1 GB.
Now start taking pictures and enjoy the hell out of your new camera. The 10D is a great camera.
Enjoy,
Scott
Longwatcher
5th of September 2003 (Fri), 14:27
Depending on what you want to do and cost willing to spend.
50/1.8 (the 50/1.4 is better, but not by a huge margin and cost can be a factor)
28-135 IS
75-300 IS
17-40L
is a very good, low cost, full lens set
Then later if you can afford it go for the "L" set of
16-35/2.8L (obviously you could skip the 17-40 for this one)
24-70/2.8L
70-200/2.8L IS
100-400 IS
These seem to be the most recommended combinations (if by nobody else then me).
I can't advise on a prime set, but it will end up costing even more eventally for a full set of those.
All things being equal Canon is always a better choice, followed by Sigma, then way behind Tamron [personal dislike of Tamron lenses voiced here]
As to CF cards.
I can highly recommend the 256MB Lexar 12x cards. I also have the Sandisk 1GB card and it seems to work well, but is slightly slower (not the ultra version) then the Lexar cards. (also I also recommend Roger Galbraith's CF card review - link listed in post above)
Remember what ever you get. Tis better to have two smaller cards then only one large CF card. After the second CF card, size matters more again. Translation get the largest CF cards you can afford two of, rather then the one large CF card you can afford. This is so you always have a card if one does fail (hasn't happened to me yet, but I feel better with more then one card)
Just my opinion,
Belmondo
5th of September 2003 (Fri), 16:18
I agree with just about everything Longwatcher says regaarding lenses. After you've been into this for a while, you'll likely develop your own plan for filling in your lens selection, and your choices will no doubt be driving by your specific needs-----needs you probably can't anticipate now.
As to CF cards, I haven't been able to justify the expense of anything larger than 256mb cards. As to the larger cards (512mb, 1gb, and larger), the thoughts of losing something that valuable, that small, and possibly containing dozens (or even hundreds) of priceless photos compels me to keep a large quantity of the 256mb cards handy. It isn't that difficult or time-consuming to change a CF card, even if you're in the middle of a busy shoot.
Good luck
dehrle
5th of September 2003 (Fri), 17:48
With a 256k card approx. how many images? Also, maybe I will bye the Canon 50mm 1.8 from a local shop or at least test one (still concerned with the focus issue - I know it is unlikely).
hugodrax
5th of September 2003 (Fri), 23:39
Start of with a 50mm 1.8 its a very useful lens
That is the only lens I have on my 10D (since I moved from pentax manual film)
Been shooting with my 10D and 50mm for several months and I do plan on purchasing a 135mm 2.0L and a 24mm 1.4L to complete my entire lens needs.
below is a range of shots with the 50mm glass. under varying conditions. I think everyone should have a 50mm 1.8 in the bag it really is a very useful lens. So why not make this your first lens then save up for a nice zoom or primes if you prefer.
http://www.pbase.com/hugodrax
Belmondo
5th of September 2003 (Fri), 23:52
dehrle wrote:
With a 256k card approx. how many images? Also, maybe I will bye the Canon 50mm 1.8 from a local shop or at least test one (still concerned with the focus issue - I know it is unlikely).
I'm betting you mean 256mb, not 256K. I usually shoot RAW, and I'll typically get 38-39 pictures on a card. Shooting JPEG, I'll get roughly double that number. I carry 6 256-meg cards with me at all times, and I figure that's enough for what I do. If I was shooting a wedding or other similar event, however, I'd want more, and could even probably justify larger capacity cards. I've heard of some wedding photographers that shoot almost a thousand pictures on a job. If you do the math, you come up with a significant investment in memory cards!
The 50mm 1.8 lens is a good one. Optically, it's really quite good. If you don't feel the need to spend the extra money for the 1.4 and its extra f-stop, then the 1.8 is a very useful cost-effective lens for most situations.
Good luck.
lightandlife
6th of September 2003 (Sat), 00:55
I heard about high speed flash cards. The standard is 4x speed. I was looking for high speed 1GB flash cards at Staple and Best Buy, but they did not carry these.
In Amsterdam airport, I finally got one. They recommended Lexmark which produces 40X 512MB and 32X 1GB flash cards. Without thinking much I got the latter for 400 euro, but in retrospect I may have paid ยค100 or 200 more than if I had bought one in the US.
In retrospect, I do not recall any speed problem with Microdrive. These speeds seem to refer the transfer speed, i.e., when one transfers the recorded files to a computer and it was slow. I did not mind it because it can be done after the fact.
Now Lexmark produces 1GB, 2GB and 4GB. As the file size of each shot increases, I guess we may need bigger flash cards. One good thing about 1GB is that I can forget about it when I am in one place for a couple of weeks or even a month. It has ample space. But again 256MB card would be useful for short trips.
scottbergerphoto
6th of September 2003 (Sat), 08:33
The size of the card you buy is really a function of how often you want to stop what you are doing and change cards and how many little cards you have to keep track of. Personally, I'd rather not do that while I'm taking pictures. I shoot only Raw and get about 140 pictures on a 1GB CF card. Since I usually don't have to change cards, there isn't much likelihood I'm going to lose the card. I carry an extra 512mb card just in case. I use SanDisk and SanDisk Ultra 1GB. I suggest you avoid microdrives as they are much more fragile. CF cards have survived washing machines. This is a common opinion among Canon and Nikon users.
You might want to check the link above that I posted to Rob Galbraith's CF card database.
dehrle
6th of September 2003 (Sat), 10:00
Also, found another link on compact flash for cameras -
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/mediacompare/page2.asp
Lord_Malone
21st of June 2006 (Wed), 09:07
All,
I just ordered a 10D after reading all the reviews. Blew my budget on the camera. Now, I need a lense and compact flash memory. Before coming to this forum I was looking at the new Sigma 28-300 2.8/5.6 Compact lense - it got some good reviews (for the price). However, I do not want to be out in the cold if a focus problem occurs. Also, what speed of compact flash should I buy (12x, 40x, 52x), and any brand suggestions?
Sandisk, Kingston, Lexar... All good brands for CFcards. Enjoy your new 10D!
TheSteveMadden
21st of June 2006 (Wed), 09:17
Sandisk, Kingston, Lexar... All good brands for CFcards. Enjoy your new 10D!
Correction: New 3 year old 10D ;)
LM, you gotta stop excavating old threads, buddy! :razz:
Lord_Malone
21st of June 2006 (Wed), 10:08
Correction: New 3 year old 10D ;)
LM, you gotta stop excavating old threads, buddy! :razz:
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m3incorp
21st of June 2006 (Wed), 10:18
Enjoy your 10D. All the lenses mentioned are excellent choices. Do indeed read Robs site reference CF speeds and your particuliar camera. Thus you will see that you don't need the fastest card out there, as far as the camera is concerned. As for size of cards; I only use 1GB (six of those suckers) and a 2GB card. Of course, I always shoot RAW + Large JPEG.
kampphoto
21st of June 2006 (Wed), 10:18
Enjoy the 10D it's an awesome camera. I bought one a couple of months ago as a back-up when I was shooting with a 20D as a main camera... then I ended up shooting more with the 10D then the 20D.
And in the last week, I sold the 20D and moved up to the 1D MKII and kept the 10D as a back-up cause I liked it so much. Needless to say, enjoy the camera =)
I'd suggest a Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 as it has a pretty good range for everything unless of course you are planning to shoot wildlife then a longer zoom would be good... but regarless decide what you plan to shoot the most then pick your what peice of glass would work the best for you.
blue_max
21st of June 2006 (Wed), 10:26
Enjoy the 10D it's an awesome camera. I bought one a couple of months ago as a back-up when I was shooting with a 20D as a main camera... then I ended up shooting more with the 10D then the 20D.
And in the last week, I sold the 20D and moved up to the 1D MKII and kept the 10D as a back-up cause I liked it so much. Needless to say, enjoy the camera =)
I'd suggest a Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 as it has a pretty good range for everything unless of course you are planning to shoot wildlife then a longer zoom would be good... but regarless decide what you plan to shoot the most then pick your what peice of glass would work the best for you.
I've really got to ask what you prefer about the 10d. I now have a 20d and advertised my 10d for sale and nobody showed the slightest interest (in the UK). Rather than give it away, I am thinking of keeping it as a back-up/dangerous territory camera. But I have to say, I tend to favour the 20d.
Graham
AdamJL
21st of June 2006 (Wed), 10:39
Dudes, the thread is 3 years old?
Lord_Malone
21st of June 2006 (Wed), 10:41
Dudes, the thread is 3 years old?
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PAFC2004
21st of June 2006 (Wed), 10:46
That's what I was thinking Adam!
TheSteveMadden
21st of June 2006 (Wed), 12:40
The first clue is that the OP "Blew the Budget" on a 10D after "reading all the reviews."
Something like that beggs for an ancient thread check.
kampphoto
21st of June 2006 (Wed), 14:42
I've really got to ask what you prefer about the 10d. I now have a 20d and advertised my 10d for sale and nobody showed the slightest interest (in the UK). Rather than give it away, I am thinking of keeping it as a back-up/dangerous territory camera. But I have to say, I tend to favour the 20d.
Graham
i don't really know... I love the build of the camera so much more, the 20D always felt really "cheap" i can't really explain it.
blonde
21st of June 2006 (Wed), 14:46
HOLY CRAP!!! i read that she paid 400 euros for a 512mb card and i almost fell off the chair :)
Ronald S. Jr.
21st of June 2006 (Wed), 14:54
Hey, just last summer, I paid $250 for a 2gig Ultra II. That's just the price they were, then.
dpastern
22nd of June 2006 (Thu), 01:55
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That's enough beer for you LM :P
Dave
mlederman
22nd of June 2006 (Thu), 14:24
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I laughed so hard reading this thread. Thanks.:D
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