Photoshop v Canon10D

[Jaguar]

I have a Canon 10d 17-40 F4 and need to take some photos that need some extra sharpening. Question, does anyone know whether the internal camera sharpening gives a better result or Photoshop. i.e. Should I shoot RAW with Sharpness 2 set on the camera, or shoot RAW with sharpness even and then sharpen in Photoshop?

Additionally if I shoot RAW with Sharpening +2 can I then remove it in the Canon File Viewer Utillity to leave the same RAW as if the shrpening was not on in the camera, i.e. do they run the same program?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[neil_r]

jaguar wrote:

I have a Canon 10d 17-40 F4 and need to take some photos that need some extra sharpening. Question, does anyone know whether the internal camera sharpening gives a better result or Photoshop. .

You have very little control over the internal sharpening, therefore it will be not will not be as good as Photoshop where you have loads of control.

My understanding is that the internal sharpening settings will have no effect on the raw image at all.

Neil

[Jaguar]

Neil, Thanks for your thought on this, I am not sure about the no action on the RAW file as the ECIF data attached to the RAW file has Sharpness: 2 indicated.

Maybe need to take two photos, and compare.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Hmmm?

I am going to have to go back to my manual for this, I may have been the imbecile who started the "Sharpness has no effect on raw" rumor. I could have sworn thats what I read,. that the "RAW" images were untouched in the cameras intermal post processing,.. :(

I also understood that White Balance was not applied to RAW images,. perhapds the point is that the WB and Sharpness info has been recorded but in RAW it is not applied untill the conversion,. and thus can be undone?

Sorry If i was wrong on that. I'll do my best to confirm one way or another as soon as I get home.

Just an iteresting point,. the new 300D's "standard" in camera processing equals the equivelent of the 10d with the the Saturation @ +1, Contrast @ +1, and sharpness @ +2

...so Canon seems to think that these settings in the 10D are more "consumer freindly" than the default would be.

[PacAce]

None of the settings have any effect on the RAW image. However, it does come into play when you are ready to convert the RAW images to JPG or TIFF. If you set the controls at the default "AS SHOT" then whatever setting you used in the camera will take effect. You can override the setting by selecting another value for any or all of the settings.

BTW, the image that is displayed by the File Viewer Utility (or equivalent) is also affected in a similar way described above.

[martcol]

Photoshop beats the camera hands down for sharpening. Plus there's more than one way to do it, you can use layer masks and you can have absolutely fine control over the amount and where you apply it. Not sure if it's all available in Photoshop Elephants though? :D

Martin.

[CyberDyneSystems]

PacAce wrote:
None of the settings have any effect on the RAW image. However, it does come into play when you are ready to convert the RAW images to JPG or TIFF. If you set the controls at the default "AS SHOT" then whatever setting you used in the camera will take effect. You can override the setting by selecting another value for any or all of the settings.

BTW, the image that is displayed by the File Viewer Utility (or equivalent) is also affected in a similar way described above.



Thanks for that clarifiacation PacAce,. now I know I wasn't going insane :D

[Vegas Poboy]

I'm presently in a PS7 class and the instructor is also using the 10d and he is one of Las Vegas major photographers. To get the best images out of any camera is to set the camera up before the shoot and tweak in photoshop when done. RAW is best to start off in if you have the memory to spare. The settings on the 10D is not that major only minor.