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Ronald S. Jr.

16th of May 2006 (Tue), 19:43

This is the one I've been waiting for. A huge, one time (hopefully not), mega-meet. I'm talking party. Just huge. We need to start taking donations to get this thing going. I tihnk obviously NYC would be the place to have it (center of everything, and all). With all of the friends on here, and friends that everyone has made, it's time for a "family" union. I wanna hear everyone's input on this. I know it's a stretch, but this should just happen.

SuzyView

16th of May 2006 (Tue), 20:26

Well, if I know Pio, he'll be there. He lives there. I live about 4 1/2 hours from Manhattan and I have family in Brooklyn, so I can come if the date works out. As far as accommodations, there are some inexpensive places to get rooms. Just let me know and I'll see what I can come up with.

holland_patrick

16th of May 2006 (Tue), 22:39

I'm in

saravrose

16th of May 2006 (Tue), 22:46

Oh, y'all just give me a lot of notice.. both of my sisters and one of my stepmother's are in Virginia and, I learned the last time I was out there Virginia is not that far from New York (tiny states).. plus, i've been wanting to go back to New York City.. and with POTN it would be a fantastic justification to go across the country... I think some of the folks from across the pond should come too.. (I know Dave's a world traveler :D .. okay, so it's not Africa. but think about it.. )...

Now, all I got to do is delicately bring up to family that I wanna go to the East Coast to meet online photography friends... wish me luck...;) ;)

sari

Ronald S. Jr.

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 12:28

Just tell them the ones you met in SLC are inviting you to New York. :-)

tommykjensen

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 12:33

I vote for Copenhagen :lol:

Seriously it could be fun but something like this would need a LOOONG planning period.

I do want to see New York someday so, but then again I also want to go back to San Diego which could also be a great spot to meet.

staciecd

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 12:56

This seems very interesting! I'm in depending on the date. Great Idea!

Stacie

cosworth

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 13:03

I just checked my air miles, I have a free trip to NY under my belt...

spencer87

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 13:10

that would be awesome! i live i baltimore but im up in NYC all the time, so as long as the date works out count me in.

SuzyView

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 13:14

Maybe I should plan on picking up all the MD people on my way up from VA. :)

Actually, if I had a nice place there in NY, I'd say everyone can stay at my place, but since I'm here in VA, we could talk DC., but B&H isn't here. :(

lakiluno

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 14:15

I just checked my air miles, I have a free trip to NY under my belt...

you don't happen to have a free childs ticket in those air miles do you :D

cjsa

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 14:24

I'm in- I have a place to stay in NYC, just can't invite anyone over- SORRY it's not mine

condyk

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 14:29

... I think some of the folks from across the pond should come too.. (I know Dave's a world traveler :D .. okay, so it's not Africa. but think about it.. )...

I suspect a world POTN world meet up is a good idea, but organised on a continent basis during the same time period, with people feeling free to travel to different continents if they want to.

Thanks for the thought Sari, but I've been to enough places to know NY is only 'centre of everything' if one lives in Waverley :lol: :lol::rolleyes: but if you're ever in the UK then it would be nice to say hi.

Ronald S. Jr.

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 15:12

Hey, if NYC isn't the "center of everything", where is? Sure isn't the UK.

EOSAddict

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 15:17

So, Ronald - credit for the idea - but ummm, NYC .. let me see.. where do you live again? ;) ;)

Im in Washington in June if that's any good!

tommykjensen

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 15:21

Hey, if NYC isn't the "center of everything", where is? Sure isn't the UK.

Copenhagen :lol:

Ronald S. Jr.

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 15:22

let me see.. where do you live again? ;) ;)

Not in NYC. Not even near it, really. Closer than someone on the west coast, but it's not someplace I would take a day trip to. About 3 1/2 hours away, last I knew.

EOSAddict

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 15:23

Not in NYC.

Closer than me ;)

Ronald S. Jr.

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 15:24

Copenhagen :lol:

Tommy, I'd absolutely love to go to Denmark. Beautiful country, I think. Not in the cards for a while, though. ;-)

staciecd

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 15:43

I'll ride up with you!

Maybe I should plan on picking up all the MD people on my way up from VA. :)

Actually, if I had a nice place there in NY, I'd say everyone can stay at my place, but since I'm here in VA, we could talk DC., but B&H isn't here. :(

lakiluno

17th of May 2006 (Wed), 15:59

I suspect a world POTN world meet up is a good idea, but organised on a continent basis during the same time period, with people feeling free to travel to different continents if they want to.

Thanks for the thought Sari, but I've been to enough places to know NY is only 'centre of everything' if one lives in Waverley :lol: :lol::rolleyes: but if you're ever in the UK then it would be nice to say hi.

obviously. The real centre of everything is my house...but shh, don't tell anyone :cool::rolleyes:

SuzyView

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 06:49

Al, tell us when you'll be in DC. I'm an hour away and I can hop on a bus and get there for the day and meet with you. Others can come if you are here on Thursday or Friday. There is so much to see and I'm dying to get some shots of the WWII Memorial. Not Saturdays, though. Too much going on with my boys.

Stacie, not a problem. :)

SuzyView

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 06:50

For those in the US east coast, sometimes there are tickets for the UK, Heathrow for $199 round trip. You can get there through JFK or Dulles. I'm game for that, too! :)

MDJAK

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 07:10

Hey, Ron, who you kidding? I invited you to a meet this weekend a few hours from your house and you're not willing to do it.

And you want others to fly in from all over the world?

You need to make the first move, Mr. Costanza.:)

mark

SuzyView

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 07:13

Maybe London is a better get-together spot. The idea of people having different sites and seeing how many can show up on the same day sounds very interesting. :)

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 08:07

I'd do london, as it wouldn't cost me much more money, but there's just nothing of interest to me there. NYC is just more interesting to me.

As for you, Mark. Some birds aren't worth that few hundred dollars. A chance to stroll through the city and meet a bunch of POTNers is. If you don't want to come, ok. I'm going, though. :-) Me and my bald head will be there. ;-)

MDJAK

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 08:16

Oh, I never said I didn't want to come. I'll be there.

As far as wanting to meet some members, there will be at least four of us there and maybe more. Guess that's not enough for you.:)

BTW, what grade ND filter will I need to be sure your baldness doesn't blow out my shot when I take a picture of you?:lol:

22 years old and bald? Save some money on your cell phone bill and buy Rogaine.:lol:

mark

MDJAK

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 08:17

Maybe London is a better get-together spot. The idea of people having different sites and seeing how many can show up on the same day sounds very interesting. :)

Yeah, maybe we can make a chain around Trafalgar Square with POTN neck straps.:)

mark

cjsa

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 08:37

London sounds really good to me- not as easy a trip to make but with a little planning and some advance notice- as long as its not my busy time at work...

SuzyView

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 08:44

lmelendez

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 09:11

Count me in!

greg20d

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 09:37

depends on when it is my wife and I have been thinking about a trip to NYC

SuzyView

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 09:45

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 10:23

I don't really care when it is. I'd rather do it when it's warm, but whatever. Too soon to plan one, I'm sure.

Mark, I'm not BALD bald. Just severely thin hair, and a receding hairline. :rolleyes:

tommykjensen

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 10:28

I don't really care when it is. I'd rather do it when it's warm, but whatever. Too soon to plan one, I'm sure.

What do You mean too soon? If this really should be a get together with members from all over the world then it need to be planned in good time. I agree that it should be when it is warm so in my opinion this year is not an option (at least for me and I would bet other outside US).

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 10:47

Well, some of us would love to make it to all of them. Poor Sari will die if she can't get to at least one of them. I'd love to meet up with everyone here or there or anywhere. :)

London is great, BTW. I wish I could go to the CA meet. My husband loves Yosemite and I have never been there. :(

now I won't die.. but London? could you imagine me trying to pass that one off as a little old vacation ;) ;) .. don't get me wrong.. I would love to go.. hmm.. fly over to the east coast spend some time with my twin and baby sister... hop on a plane and be in London.....:lol: :lol: :lol: . would I need a passport? my idea of foreign countries is Rosario Mexico... and this better be pretty far into the future... i'm going to have to introduce this idea pretty slowly.. not to mention the poor student who needs camera gear before a vacation aspect.. But, I could pull something out of my hat... (by the way, i'm giggling over the idea of buying a plane ticket to england and getting a passport... but i'm really laughing at me sitting on the front porch with my uncles and calmly explaining that along with spending some time in Virginia, I just might hop a plane and go to the UK.... well, I won't say it like that... yeah, I'd have to word it a little better...)

sari

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 10:58

If we do it this year, the time between Thanksgiving and Christmas is magical in NYC. There are displays all over and the Empire State Building is lit in green & red, I think. The only problem is the crowds and the cold.

hey, that's around my birthday... I could see my sister for our birthday this year... haven't done that since we were seventeen.. yeah, I like that idea.. and we could hop on a plane after and go to England.... do, you suppose it would be inconvenient to drive to Scotland while were in england? i'm only asking cause if i'm going to dream up these huge scenarios I should really go big in my thinking... yeah, wouldn't mind Scotland at all..

sari

tommykjensen

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 10:59

now I won't die.. but London? could you imagine me trying to pass that one off as a little old vacation ;) ;) .. don't get me wrong.. I would love to go.. hmm.. fly over to the east coast spend some time with my twin and baby sister... hop on a plane and be in London.....:lol: :lol: :lol: . would I need a passport? my idea of foreign countries is Rosario Mexico... and this better be pretty far into the future... i'm going to have to introduce this idea pretty slowly.. not to mention the poor student who needs camera gear before a vacation aspect.. But, I could pull something out of my hat... (by the way, i'm giggling over the idea of buying a plane ticket to england and getting a passport... but i'm really laughing at me sitting on the front porch with my uncles and calmly explaining that along with spending some time in Virginia, I just might hop a plane and go to the UK.... well, I won't say it like that... yeah, I'd have to word it a little better...)

sari

Yes You need a passport to leave the US and get back :p :)

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 11:14

Yes You need a passport to leave the US and get back :p :)

okay, guess I should go get one... just to have one more than anything... but i've always wanted to be 'going somewhere' didn't want to have an empty passport with no stamps.... and up til now my idea of travel is every state in the West.. and one week long trip to the East Coast... I generally drive. flying I discovered a couple of years back isn't my favorite.. I actually got fairly drunk the first plane I got on.. I just kept imagining all kinds of weird scenarios...

sari

tommykjensen

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 11:19

I generally drive. flying I discovered a couple of years back isn't my favorite.. I actually got fairly drunk the first plane I got on.. I just kept imagining all kinds of weird scenarios...

sari

Whatever You do don't get drunk on a plane and behave like a danish top model did when she was on her way to a job in USA. She got arrested when she arrived, deported and have since been denied entry to USA - goodbye carreer.

But flying that long is a pain. I can't sleep and I get restless sitting in those tight seats.

neil_r

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 11:22

Hey, if NYC isn't the "center of everything", where is? Sure isn't the UK.

What a nice inclusive guy, I really want to travel half way around the world to meet him ;)

N

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 11:23

Whatever You do don't get drunk on a plane and behave like a danish top model did when she was on her way to a job in USA. She got arrested when she arrived, deported and have since been denied entry to USA - goodbye carreer.

But flying that long is a pain. I can't sleep and I get restless sitting in those tight seats.

LOL.. by drunk I mean three glasses of zinfadel... and I fell asleep.... my usual reaction, i'm the life of the party...:D besides, i'm hardly a danish model. ;)

lakiluno

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 11:37

London I can do - I could probably even do Copenhagen (My parents love copenhagen, so they'd probably send me there in a jiffy :D)

perhaps summer 2007. Whatever anyone says, winter in the UK is horrible - its cold, but not cold enough to snow, and it rains a lot. Spring and summer and the times you want to be there, perhaps also early autumn (fall).

Scotland - why not :D Hey...we could do a huge POTN tours the UK thing, and then do a tour of the US the next year. The great thing about the UK is you don't need to drive or fly anywhere - the train system can get you to all the major citys. and most of the towns and villages, and from there you can get busses to almost everywhere :D

Anyway...that sounds fun.

Leo

lakiluno

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 11:38

LOL.. by drunk I mean three glasses of zinfadel... and I fell asleep.... my usual reaction, i'm the life of the party...:D besides, i'm hardly a danish model. ;)

falling asleep...my...you must of been off your head..

peacock

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 11:43

Hey, if NYC isn't the "center of everything", where is? Sure isn't the UK.

Its this kind of thing that gives Shermans a bad name:lol: we are at the center , ever heard of the greenwich merdian or prime meridian:p

Dave (Condyk) said anyone want to come to the uk can stay at his place:D

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 12:04

next summer would work for me.. enough time to get my L investment started and I could start budgeting in a very large scale vacation. and wherever we go I don't want to be traveling across the world to be rained or snowed on..

hey, suzie. I could fly into Virginia spend some time with my sisters and then maybe we could fly over together? and by together I mean, you could hold my hand and make sure I don't have an asthma attack. and there's the whole benifit of that way your not sitting next to somebody that smells, is much drunker than you, or has a life story and lots and lots of snapshots of the milwaukee mall taken with a cardboard camera (all of those things happened to me by the way)..

sari

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 12:05

What do You mean too soon? If this really should be a get together with members from all over the world then it need to be planned in good time. I agree that it should be when it is warm so in my opinion this year is not an option (at least for me and I would bet other outside US).

I meant too soon to plan one for this summer.

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 12:10

What a nice inclusive guy, I really want to travel half way around the world to meet him ;)

N

Neil, I never would have expected you or anyone else to want to meet me. I'm hardly "interesting". I'm hard to look at for any length of time, and hard to tolerate in general. Not funny, not interesting, and not all too polite (other than to women). But hey, I still like hanging out with those who will put up with me. ;-)

Don't worry...should this "event" be in the UK, I won't be there.

tommykjensen

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 12:10

I meant too soon to plan one for this summer.

As I said (or tried to) it is already too late to plan something for this summer. You have to remember that travelling acros the globe is not exactly cheap, has to be planned with work etc. So if a meet were to be done this summer I would definately be out. Summer 2007 yes that would be a great idea.

tommykjensen

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 12:12

Don't worry...should this "event" be in the UK, I won't be there.

Thats a nice attitude. Trying to get something like this organised but it HAS to be were You want it. So if it can't be in Copenhagen I won't be there either.

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 12:18

Neil, I never would have expected you or anyone else to want to meet me. I'm hardly "interesting". I'm hard to look at for any length of time, and hard to tolerate in general. Not funny, not interesting, and not all too polite (other than to women). But hey, I still like hanging out with those who will put up with me. ;-)

Don't worry...should this "event" be in the UK, I won't be there.

hey ron, what's wrong with the UK? and were talking about a year away.. that's lots of time, even for me.. and i'm on the other side of the united states, let alone going to England. but, perhaps we could have a meet in New York City and then for those that want to go to England can go.. that way, If I go across the country it's for more than one meet... ;) ;) .
Hey, Tommy.. if I go across my country, and fly over an ocean.. you better go to England.. isn't it like a train ride for y'all.. a lot of the countries over there are half the size of my state.... just curious...

sari

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 12:23

I can't think of a single thing in the UK that I'm "dying to shoot". I can think of a bunch of places in NYC or even the US in general that I'd love to get to. Now...if we were talking Italy, or maaaybe even France, I might jump on it. They have things I want to see. UK just has nothing for me. Not to mention, I can't think of a single UK'er that I want to meet that bad (no offense to any of you)

tommykjensen

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 12:25

Hey, Tommy.. if I go across my country, and fly over an ocean.. you better go to England.. isn't it like a train ride for y'all.. a lot of the countries over there are half the size of my state.... just curious...

sari

I was just joking about Copenhagen. As long as it is planned in good time I am open for US, England, Prague almost anywhere. Sorry to say that Australia would probably need more than one year to save money for such a trip.

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 12:25

Thats a nice attitude. Trying to get something like this organised but it HAS to be were You want it. So if it can't be in Copenhagen I won't be there either.

Oh tommy, don't get like that. I didn't mean because it wasn't in NYC I wouldn't be there. I just don't want to fly, especially over the ocean, and don't care for the UK anyway (as I said in my last post). I wasn't being "childish" or anything. I just don't fancy going to the UK. I'd go just about anywhere in the US. I just figured NYC was a nice place, and it seems to be in the middle between a good portion of the members.

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 12:30

ron, I hate to fly too.. we can fly together.. I'll hold your hand, you'll tell me when I look blue.. we can both take turn taking pictures outside of the airplane window. we could get through it.. and if suzy's there she'll keep us both distracted..

what about taking three or four days and going to a few different places.. never been to Europe before (obviously) and if it's just train rides we can go to different places. But, I want to go to Portobello Rd. (spelling).. and Dave's neighborhood and see that graveyard he's always shooting..

sari

NYC2BGI

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 13:00

New York City is a great place since there are so many great photography stores here (especially B&H). There are many photo studios and tons of photographers. Even though I live here, I never run out of things to shoot because there is so much going on and so much to see.

tommykjensen

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 13:04

Oh tommy, don't get like that. I didn't mean because it wasn't in NYC I wouldn't be there. I just don't want to fly, especially over the ocean, and don't care for the UK anyway (as I said in my last post). I wasn't being "childish" or anything. I just don't fancy going to the UK. I'd go just about anywhere in the US. I just figured NYC was a nice place, and it seems to be in the middle between a good portion of the members.

Are You sure You know everything about UK to be able to say there is nothing You would want to see and photograph?

NYC or another major city in US, Los Angeles, San Diego or even somewhere in Canada definately make sense to me since most members are from US/Canada. But that also means that if members from Europe should have an oportunity to perticipate then we would be looking at summer 2007 not summer 2006.

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 13:08

Are You sure You know everything about UK to be able to say there is nothing You would want to see and photograph?

NYC or another major city in US, Los Angeles, San Diego or even somewhere in Canada definately make sense to me since most members are from US/Canada. But that also means that if members from Europe should have an oportunity to perticipate then we would be looking at summer 2007 not summer 2006.

I used to live in San diego and half of my family is down there.. and there are tons of photo oppurtunities.. plus, the weather is nine times out of ten very pretty and then there's Mexico just down the road.. as crazy as it sounds i've been aching to go back down to the border towns with a camera... but, i'm pretty flexible.. (or i'm an ADD photographer and can shoot anywhere :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )...

sari

tommykjensen

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 13:12

I used to live in San diego and half of my family is down there.. and there are tons of photo oppurtunities.. plus, the weather is nine times out of ten very pretty and then there's Mexico just down the road.. as crazy as it sounds i've been aching to go back down to the border towns with a camera... but, i'm pretty flexible.. (or i'm an ADD photographer and can shoot anywhere :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )...

I have been in San Diego 2 times for conferences and would very much like to go back on a real holiday.

But I do have a small problem going to USA. I don't have a drivers license :shock:

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 13:18

I have been in San Diego 2 times for conferences and would very much like to go back on a real holiday.

But I do have a small problem going to USA. I don't have a drivers license :shock:

that one isn't a problem.. I do. in fact I learned how to really drive in SD.. and if it's in San Diego I'd either drive down or take a plain.. but either way I could get my hands on a car without any trouble at all..
I will tell y'all up front. My father still makes noises about my driving... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: .. but I haven't had a ticket in three years and the only wreck I got into was because of black ice (not my driving)...

sari

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 13:32

Are You sure You know everything about UK to be able to say there is nothing You would want to see and photograph?

NYC or another major city in US, Los Angeles, San Diego or even somewhere in Canada definately make sense to me since most members are from US/Canada. But that also means that if members from Europe should have an oportunity to perticipate then we would be looking at summer 2007 not summer 2006.

Well, nothing I can think of, anyway. Make a list of things that you think are interesting, and I'd consider it. I just can't think of anything at all, really, that would make me want to make that trip. I'm sure it's a lovely place, but at this point, just not worth it in my mind. Plus, I wouldn't be able to stay for any real length of time, because of money. I can't imagine how much it would be to stay there for like a week, what with plane fare, lodgings, food, etc. Gotta be a couple thousand anyway, and that's just too much.

tommykjensen

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 13:37

Well, nothing I can think of, anyway. Make a list of things that you think are interesting, and I'd consider it. I just can't think of anything at all, really, that would make me want to make that trip. I'm sure it's a lovely place, but at this point, just not worth it in my mind. Plus, I wouldn't be able to stay for any real length of time, because of money. I can't imagine how much it would be to stay there for like a week, what with plane fare, lodgings, food, etc. Gotta be a couple thousand anyway, and that's just too much.

I really don't know UK that well but I am almost 100% sure that the UK members can come up with interesting things and places to see.

As for the cost. That is why it should take place next year. And the cost of going from Europe to US is probably the same or maybe higher so that issue is the same for us in Europe.

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 13:38

I think it would be worth it.. and i'm not rich. But eventually i'm going to be a 'real' grown up and trips like this won't be in the cards anymore..... we should go out and explore while were young.. before the whole career, mortgage, marriage, children stuff starts...

sari

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 13:46

I really don't know UK that well but I am almost 100% sure that the UK members can come up with interesting things and places to see.

As for the cost. That is why it should take place next year. And the cost of going from Europe to US is probably the same or maybe higher so that issue is the same for us in Europe.

Besides the real interests occurs in the places that don't instantly come to mind.. the nooks and crannies of a location that hold it's history and give you a sense of the area... but to say that nothing comes to mind is all the more reason to go, atleast to me..

sari

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 13:48

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 13:58

I'm not rich either. The income is there, but it all has places to go. I hardly ever have money for "fun". Over a year, I could probably save enough to go there for a week or two, but man...seems like an awful lot of money for that. I'd definitely have to see some other places to make it worth it. I'd take a day train trip to Italy, probably. Wanna go, Sari? :lol:

That might be a nice idea. Those that want to go to a couple other countries could plan the whole thing so we go as a group. I know I don't want to go alone. No way.

do I feel like planning a trip to Italy... are you nutty enough to think that I wouldn't want to go? hmm.... you don't know me very well.. yeah, I think I could stand to go to Italy and what about greece? where is Pekka at again? If the Brass American's are going over the ocean I'd like to see the big man in charge.. How about it Tommy? Italy, England, Coppenhagen?

POTN does Europe.. somebody send a PM to Maureen...

sari

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 14:20

Pekka's in Finland. Not too terribly far from Tommy.

No, you're right. You don't know me, and I don't know you. That's why we should spend a day in NYC, and then fly from there to wherever in Europe. Along with whoever.

tommykjensen

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 14:25

do I feel like planning a trip to Italy... are you nutty enough to think that I wouldn't want to go? hmm.... you don't know me very well.. yeah, I think I could stand to go to Italy and what about greece? where is Pekka at again? If the Brass American's are going over the ocean I'd like to see the big man in charge.. How about it Tommy? Italy, England, Coppenhagen?

POTN does Europe.. somebody send a PM to Maureen...

sari

Sounds like it could be fun.

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 14:29

I'm thinking if we plan it for next year everybody can work shoots and schedules around the trip.. and ofcourse still do the NY meet. i'm not very familiar with how far away things are in europe but it seems kind of compact.. compared to the U.S. Northwest that is... and I think the traveling would be as fun as the destinations..

sari

tommykjensen

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 14:48

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 14:54

Hehe there are some distance to cover.

Flight Copenhagen <-> London approx 2 hours
Flight Copenhagen <-> Rome approx 2,5 hours
Flight Copenhagen <-> Prague approx 1,5 hours
TGV Train London <-> Paris approx 3 hours

This is just a few examples I could find right now.

I like the idea of Paris.. I think we might like to keep everything pretty central though... what about Ireland?

sari

peacock

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 15:01

Sounds like a mini adventure, you guys could meet up stateside nyc , cheap flights to London , then borrow camping gear of us Brits , hire a minibus / small coach then spend a week travelling through europe meeting / picking up members en-route, Us guys can fly home ,europeans can travellel back on the bus to the uk or fly home:D sound like and adventure and cut costs for some.

tommykjensen

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 15:01

Ireland is not central :lol: But that would probably also be a a great country to visit. Ohh there are so many places in Europe I haven't been to but would like to see someday.

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 15:08

Ireland is not central :lol: But that would probably also be a a great country to visit. Ohh there are so many places in Europe I haven't been to but would like to see someday.

okay, I was googling.. if we do it lets either, rent a van or something along those lines or take the trains.. allthough i'm not very good at currency changes it doesn't seem to be all that expensive the plane fare.. will be the expensive part.. tommy, what are the areas that are closest to England?

sari.

Woolburr

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 15:09

Virtually any country in the world affords photographic opportunities. Perhaps for ideological reasons, some places might get ruled out. NYC is an attractive travel destination for many, because it is a gateway and travel to and from gateway cities tends to be more reasonable than to other locales. On the down side, lodging in NYC is astronomical which tends to negate the travel savings. Perhaps with as many members as we have, we should just charter the "Freedom of the Seas" and have a floating meet.

tommykjensen

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 15:20

I am not too good at geographics so here is a link to a map of europe http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/europe_ref_2005.pdf

SuzyView

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 15:20

I know many visitors have limitations on funds for lodging, but NYC has many places that are not 5 star hotels, not even a 2 star hotel, but are quite reasonable. My brother stayed in a 4 star hotel in the heart of China last month and he said the floors were totally dirty. Everyone has different standards for 2 stars and these places in NYC are quite acceptable. So, if you are interested, anyone interested, I can get some information. I'm staying in my sister's 2 star apartment. It's the size of my family room in VA. But it's free and I'm going there.

Neil H

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 15:49

as much as i would love to jump on a plane and meet all you crazy peeps it all depends on Dates, durations and locations.....
Odviously living in Ireland im not going to travel to NYC or Copenhagen or Japan or New Zeland (or any other far off beatufully photogenic landscape) for just 1 day.. Know what i mean?

lakiluno

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 16:02

hmm...a day trip from London to italy - an interesting concept :D

Flights here are pretty cheap - I wouldn't fly within the UK, but you can fly from the UK to other major european citys often for less than £50 :D

As for accomadation - thats what youth hostels are for. Often very cheap, £30/night maximum (I'm not absolutely sure, but that would be an upper limit). Food can be cheap. TBH, once you get over here, it wouldn't be huge amount to actually stay here - I'm sure someone would lend you their spare room :D

Leo

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 16:21

hmm.. question about hostels? is that where there's bunk beds and a bunch of folks in one room? or just really teeny tiny private rooms? and I definately agree that it would have to be for more than one day... I'm thinking closer to a week but spent in a few different places... this could be exciting but it's going to take atleast a year to really organize, but if we name a date that will work for everyone if it's that far in advance we can arrange other things around it...

sari

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 16:38

peacock

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 16:55

I believe most hotels that aren't "four star" are gonna be a couple people at least, to a room. I'd pay for a room for myself, just so I didn't have to stay with anyone (no offense to anyone, I'm just phobic of that).

That is simply not the case here Ronald , even our bargain basement hotel chain travelodge -5stars:lol: offer nice sized clean rooms from £10-£45 a night depending on if you book in advance or not.

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 16:58

That is simply not the case here Ronald , even our bargain basement hotel chain travelodge -5stars:lol: offer nice sized clean rooms from £10-£45 a night depending on if you book in advance or not.

good to know. I kind of assume that no matter where you go there is going to be hotels and finding one shouldn't be terribly difficult...

sari

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 17:06

That is simply not the case here Ronald , even our bargain basement hotel chain travelodge -5stars:lol: offer nice sized clean rooms from £10-£45 a night depending on if you book in advance or not.

Oh I didn't mean that they'd book another person in the same room. I just meant that there's usually two beds. I stayed at a holiday in a couple weeks ago during a wedding. I didn't pay, the couple did; but I saw the bill. It was $130 each night. Nuts, I say. From what you're saying, I could get a decent hotel room for like 20 bucks. That's even more insane. I might stay in the UK more often. :lol:

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 17:08

Oh I didn't mean that they'd book another person in the same room. I just meant that there's usually two beds. I stayed at a holiday in a couple weeks ago during a wedding. I didn't pay, the couple did; but I saw the bill. It was $130 each night. Nuts, I say. From what you're saying, I could get a decent hotel room for like 20 bucks. That's even more insane. I might stay in the UK more often. :lol:

wait.. twenty bucks a night on the cheap end? that's really incredible.. as long as there's running water and it's clean I don't care much about room service etc...

sari

peacock

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 17:13

Oh I didn't mean that they'd book another person in the same room. I just meant that there's usually two beds. I stayed at a holiday in a couple weeks ago during a wedding. I didn't pay, the couple did; but I saw the bill. It was $130 each night. Nuts, I say. From what you're saying, I could get a decent hotel room for like 20 bucks. That's even more insane. I might stay in the UK more often. :lol:

If you booked these in advance on specific days yes , but realistically a bed and breckfast would be $50 and that would beva price of a cheap hotel , a decent hotel would be about the price you mentioned.

this would be the cheapie place
http://www.travelodge.co.uk/about/facilities.php

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 17:18

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 17:21

One question, though... what the heck is a "cosy duvet"? lol.

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 17:22

If you booked these in advance on specific days yes , but realistically a bed and breckfast would be $50 and that would beva price of a cheap hotel , a decent hotel would be about the price you mentioned.

this would be the cheapie place
http://www.travelodge.co.uk/about/facilities.php

hey, it's clean... that would be just fine with me.. now, about wireless? :p

sari

peacock

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 17:25

Yeah, that place in the link looks like a really cramped, very slightly lower quality Holiday Inn. Looks wonderful for 20 bucks, though. Disregarding electronics and such, do things generally cost more or less there than here? Forgive me, never been there. :lol:

exactly that a budget no frills holiday inn , normal price $80 , advance booking saver $40 , special deal $20.

what you dont have duvets :lol:

peacock

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 17:26

hey, it's clean... that would be just fine with me.. now, about wireless? :p

sari

they are very clean and great value:D

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 17:51

hey, it's clean... that would be just fine with me.. now, about wireless? :p

sari

Sari, don't get greedy. It's 20 bucks. :lol:

nitsch

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 17:53

One question, though... what the heck is a "cosy duvet"? lol.

:lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duvet

Buggbairn

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 17:53

neil_r

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 18:01

The Scottish Tourist board would welcome you all :D

Although apart from some of the most beautiful Scenery in the world and castles as ancient as they get, oh and over 6000 miles of Coastland I don't think we have got much going for us :lol: ;)
If only you could remove that uncouth lump of a country that hangs down south of your border, (a bit like Canada really ;) )

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 18:04

Sari, don't get greedy. It's 20 bucks. :lol:

okay... okay... I suppose I could live without wireless.. besides, it'd be like POTN live and not through the internet...:D :D :D

sari

Buggbairn

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 18:07

If only you could remove that uncouth lump of a country that hangs down south of your border, (a bit like Canada really ;) )

Funny that !! Ontario is like a 2nd home to me, I too feel their pain :lol:

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 18:14

okay... okay... I suppose I could live without wireless.. besides, it'd be like POTN live and not through the internet...:D :D :D

sari

We'd have to do a "swap meet" though, to keep my marketplace addiction at bay. :lol: I'll bring lots of extra cash! lol

Becca

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 18:26

Are most of the people planning this excursion young folks? I'd love to go, but I'm pretty sure I'm past the "youth hostel" stage of life!

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 18:30

Well, I'll be 22 in June, Sari's 23, uh...yeah, I guess we're young. :p

Who says you can't run around with us? You can bring your powerchair! :lol:

Becca

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 18:40

Well, I'll be 22 in June, Sari's 23, uh...yeah, I guess we're young. :p

Who says you can't run around with us? You can bring your powerchair! :lol:

ROFLMAO!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: I suppose I could come along. You all might need a chaperone. :rolleyes:

Carzee

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 18:50

Umm, I think 2007 is a bit soon --- why not think ahead to 2008?

http://images.beijing-2008.org/74/74/Img211987474.jpg

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 18:53

oh Becca please go too.. I don't want to be completely outnumbered by the boys.. besides, photography has no age.. it's timeless..

sari

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 18:57

Don't worry, Sari. I'm the most emotional, feminine man I've ever known. :lol: I'll be one of the girls. ;-) lol

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 19:04

Don't worry, Sari. I'm the most emotional, feminine man I've ever known. :lol: I'll be one of the girls. ;-) lol

:lol: :lol: .. uh oh.. I should probably tell ya I'm not the emotional overly feminine type.. but i'm certainly not a tomboy by any means.. but i'm not prissy either..

sari

drews578

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 19:09

Ron,

You could always lead a finger lakes tour. Im sure it would be an intoxicatingly good time :)

Ummm, I can taste wine right now...

Honestly though, much nicer wine country area than Napa but shhhhhhh, dont tell too many people.

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 19:16

:lol: :lol: .. uh oh.. I should probably tell ya I'm not the emotional overly feminine type.. but i'm certainly not a tomboy by any means.. but i'm not prissy either..

sari

Lol...just to give you an idea..I'm so bad, that when I watched the Grey's Anatomy finale a couple days ago, I wept like a baby at the end. :lol: :o

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 19:26

Lol...just to give you an idea..I'm so bad, that when I watched the Grey's Anatomy finale a couple days ago, I wept like a baby at the end. :lol: :o

:lol: :lol: .. grey's anatomy?? not even sure what that is... but, okay you can be the wimpy girly one.... LOL...

sari

MDJAK

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 19:49

I don't really care when it is. I'd rather do it when it's warm, but whatever. Too soon to plan one, I'm sure.

Mark, I'm not BALD bald. Just severely thin hair, and a receding hairline. :rolleyes:

It's only a matter of time, my friend.:cry:

Ronald S. Jr.

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 20:08

:lol: :lol: .. grey's anatomy?? not even sure what that is... but, okay you can be the wimpy girly one.... LOL...

sari

Very popular show about doctors...sort of like a "trendy ER".

SuzyView

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 21:54

saravrose

18th of May 2006 (Thu), 22:41

Off topic, off topic. Let's talk meeting and Beijing would be nice, but I don't think any of us can compete with those pros. I saw what they had at the last Olympics and I was almost in tears reading that article about the photographer that had bags and bags of equipment to lug around. So, for me, NYC or Washington, D.C. for the US folks and anyone else who can come.

count me in suzy.. absolutely. any excuse to travel.. and a trip to the east coast will probably be in the cards by next summer anyway to see my sisters... and you even have there telephone area code... so, you can take me to washington D.C. they were both bored at the idea of playing tourist with me.. and New York is soo close to D.C. there's no reason to do one and not the other....

sari

greg20d

19th of May 2006 (Fri), 15:02

we are talking about the east coast in oct 06 . my daughter will be out of school . they have but if its 07 or whatever ..maybe do a poll whats best for the times to see the city and for people to get there. I am game but would only be able to come if my wife can to there she would kill me to go to NY without Her ,,,

Becca

19th of May 2006 (Fri), 20:39

count me in suzy.. absolutely. any excuse to travel.. and a trip to the east coast will probably be in the cards by next summer anyway to see my sisters... and you even have there telephone area code... so, you can take me to washington D.C. they were both bored at the idea of playing tourist with me.. and New York is soo close to D.C. there's no reason to do one and not the other....

sari

If you guys plan a DC trip, let me know! I would love to meet up with you there. I'm not sure about NYC, but DC is definately do-able!

holland_patrick

19th of May 2006 (Fri), 22:07

Citizensmith

19th of May 2006 (Fri), 23:26

I'd be up for London, plenty to do and see. New York I did once and was underwhelmed. Thing is though, if we really want to do the center of things we need a big boat. Its off the coast of Africa. Shall we meet in Ghana or would Nigeria be better?

condyk

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 06:56

Namibia and Australia are the best countries to visit for photography, at least to me: lots and lots to see and experience, great people, not that pricey at all and an absolutely amazing variety of stuff to shoot ... wildlife, deserts, coast lines, people and town/city style, but you need a nice small, easy going but focused group of people to really enjoy it, no primadona's of either gender, and a reliable 4x4 or 4x2 ideally! I'm almost sure now to be heading off to one or the other again around April '07 for 3-6 months.

New York ... hmmm :lol: :lol: doesn't quite appeal the same unless you like shopping for shoes and shooting taxi cabs and police. London is a much more target rich environment for shooters too if folks want a nice 'world hub' (worlds busiest airport after all) with lots of infrastructure! Can be reasonably priced if you're clever.

Rob612

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 13:58

Beside the fact that nobody mentioned Rome, that at least is one of the oldest center(s) of the world (logical, Captain... these aliens are all from another world ;)) no matter where it is, if its doable Mrs Rob and I will be there. As long as its NOT in the cold season because I just cant stand cold weather (and NYC in winter is fu****** cold for my taste!, and please don't mention other very cold places around the US because unfortunately I've been in almost all of 'em... in the wrong season :().

I think that we should start planning now for spring/summer 2007... If we want to make a real WORLD POTN meeting, we need at least 8/10 months to plan and arrange. Peole often need to plan long trips way ahead, either for family reasons, for building up the money (assuming that its going to be in NYC, and BH being there IS going to be expensive!) and many other reasons.

Just my 0.02

Ronald S. Jr.

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 14:39

Rob, I definitely want to do Rome. I would have made it there way before the UK. Obviously, though, I'd fly to UK and take a train down. Still..I've been saying that I want to spend a fair amount of time in Italy. Perhaps stop by Paris, too.

tommykjensen

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 14:42

tommykjensen

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 14:44

Ronald S. Jr.

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 14:49

Yes, smarty. I know. :rolleyes:

condyk

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 14:49

You do know Paris is in France not Italy :p :)

:lol: :lol: This thread is killin' me ...

He can actually take the Eurostar from London to gay Pari' and then overnight splendidly through to Rome tho' Tom, which I'm sure is what he meant!

tommykjensen

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 14:52

Yes, smarty. I know. :rolleyes:

It was a joke :)

Ronald S. Jr.

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 14:54

I have been in Paris and to be honest I did not like that city.

Oh I don't think I'd like it much, either. I just want to stop by the Louvre to see those things you "just have to see". Arc de Triomphe, Notre Dame, perhaps Champs Elysees, etc. Italy is my major interest, though. I'd just love to get across the Mediterranean to Egypt, too, but I don't see that happening.

Ronald S. Jr.

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 14:55

:lol: :lol: This thread is killin' me ...

He can actually take the Eurostar from London to gay Pari' and then overnight splendidly through to Rome tho' Tom, which I'm sure is what he meant!

Yeaaap. ;-)

By the way, if I plan to "get it all", how many gigs of memory you think I'd need. 10? 15? Maybe just a few and bring a P2000 or something.

condyk

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 14:59

Yeaaap. ;-)

By the way, if I plan to "get it all", how many gigs of memory you think I'd need. 10? 15? Maybe just a few and bring a P2000 or something.

Depends how you shoot and how quick you dump the poor shots. Me, I'd probably struggle to fill a couple of GB's :lol: :lol: but I take my laptop when I travel so I dunno.

tommykjensen

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 15:03

Yeaaap. ;-)

By the way, if I plan to "get it all", how many gigs of memory you think I'd need. 10? 15? Maybe just a few and bring a P2000 or something.

Definately bring a P2000 or another databank.

Ronald S. Jr.

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 15:03

Well I don't want just monuments and the such. People, too. Everything. You're saying a trip through Europe would only yield 250 shots or so? I can't imagine taking that few.

tommykjensen

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 15:05

Well I don't want just monuments and the such. People, too. Everything. You're saying a trip through Europe would only yield 250 shots or so? I can't imagine taking that few.

I shot that (well actually 249) with my S2 IS when I was in Prague for 4 days.

Ronald S. Jr.

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 15:26

well yes, but that's a single city. We're talking a good 3-4 cities. Surely that wouldn't be enough. I just hate to be limited.

tommykjensen

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 15:28

I know that. It was just to give You an idea. Multiply that with number of cities or days if You like.

Ronald S. Jr.

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 15:48

Sounds right. More, if there's some nice birds around.

lakiluno

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 16:04

I'll happily shoot 2 gigs in a day in my local area, shooting stuff I've lived next to for my whole life. In another city, I shoot way too much. Just to give you an idea, I shot 399 photos in Grange over Sands - a small town near the lake district.

their website (http://www.grange-over-sands.com/tourist.htm)

I did go walking - but I was only there for a weekend :D

Dave is just slow and steady with his shooting :D

Ronald S. Jr.

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 16:42

You have to be at his age. :lol:

lakiluno

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 16:51

lol...

I think we all know that he's just trying not to take too many photos before he goes back on some sort of safari - Dave is a bit odd with his safari obsessions...

SuzyView

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 17:00

My brother lived in London for 2 years and his favorite place to go was Prague. He loved Turkey, said the old buildings were amazing. My husband loved Paris, the streets were full of interesting characters. He also loved Australia, especially the seashore. I am smitten with NYC because I grew up there. For those who have never been there, it is true, lots of tourist traps. But the NYC I know is quite different. Take a walk into Chinatown or Little Italy. You can eat until you dropped for under $10. The art in the museums alone would be worth the trip. I stayed at the Metropolitan Museum of Art for a whole day and didn't see 1/3 of it. They allow non-flash photography in there. The views from the Empire State Building or Rockefeller Center on a clear day are enlightening. you can almost see forever. Every summer I attended Mets and Yankees games from the cheap seats with my Dad and that was really great. I ate dirty hot dogs and got sunburn. I watched the US Open Tennis matches at center court. I road the subways from Brooklyn to Manhattan and saw thousands of office buildings, apartment buildings with terrible, artful graffiti. Central Park is beautiful, Ground Zero is sobering, the United Nations is actually very art deco. The Statue of Liberty is grand, but you can't go up the statue anymore. Grand Central Station is huge.

My town. Sorry to ramble. :)

Ronald S. Jr.

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 17:02

The Statue of Liberty is grand, but you can't go up the statue anymore.

How come?

SuzyView

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 17:08

What else? Security. :)

Rob612

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 17:14

My town. Sorry to ramble. :)

Nothing wrong with it. I've traveled in... well, don't really know, but I would say about 60% of the world, but i must admit that NYC has a very special place in my heart. Probably because is where I've spent more time, and one of those places that I did not lived as a tourist. I still have a lot of friends that live in NYC, I have spent about one and a half year over there as a student at the Columbia and still today (our last visit was in 2002) i move around the city almost as a native does... so NYC is absolutely fine for me. But in spring/summer. The cold weather has always killed me. Probably is the reason because I went back home at the end (dunno really, that was about 25 years ago) :)

How about Florida ? There we would not have any climate related issue and is a place rich of photo opps.

Ronald S. Jr.

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 17:18

Oh god. I hated florida when I was there. :lol: If we're going out of the country anyway, how about some place like Costa Rica? Well ok, maybe not that far. You get the idea, though. I hate the heat immensely, but if I'm gonna be in it, it's gonna be someplace nice.

condyk

20th of May 2006 (Sat), 19:26

I think we all know that he's just trying not to take too many photos before he goes back on some sort of safari - Dave is a bit odd with his safari obsessions...

It's not how many you take it's how many you keep as you know. How many you keep is about exposure and composure and having a discriminating eye. Shooting like a machine gun is based on fear you don't know what you're doing and will miss something.

Safari obsessions? ... that's funny kid. Some are happy to live in the same street they grew up in and work in a supermarket all their life. Cool for them ... doesn't suit me so I do something different. When you grow out of short pants you can make your own choice ;)

saravrose

21st of May 2006 (Sun), 00:23

I shoot quite a bit.. but, i'm with Dave on packing the laptop.. quick downloads at the end of the day and i'd be good with 2 or 3G's worth of memory... but, I have a bad habit of almost never erasing shots in camera.. generally do it later.. so, if I actually chimp my shots and dump bad ones my memory would probably last a bit longer..

and no picking on Dave about his travels.. i'm jealous as hell of his being able to pack up and travel around Africa or Australia for six months...

sari

lakiluno

21st of May 2006 (Sun), 18:53

hell...I'd love to go to Australia/Africa :D

I'll keep Dave's words of wisdom in mind :D

holland_patrick

21st of May 2006 (Sun), 21:25

Norwgins(i know spelling is bad) is doing quite a few cruises out of NYC maybe that could be something we could look in to..

Ronald S. Jr.

21st of May 2006 (Sun), 23:22

Norweigan Cruise Lines.

Becca

22nd of May 2006 (Mon), 06:04

Norwgins(i know spelling is bad) is doing quite a few cruises out of NYC maybe that could be something we could look in to..

There's an idea. It's a great way to visit several places without worrying about transportation or hotel reservations.

tommykjensen

22nd of May 2006 (Mon), 06:12

Norweigan Cruise Lines.

Norwegian Cruise Lines ;)

SuzyView

22nd of May 2006 (Mon), 06:15

I think there are already photography cruises we can look at. I read about one that went to Alaska. On board the photographers had classes and shared interesting information and sponsors even came to pitch their products. Maybe we should do that, get a sponsor?

tommykjensen

22nd of May 2006 (Mon), 06:18