View Full Version : SPORT SHOTS with D10 - delay
mikevolley
16th of September 2003 (Tue), 17:29
hi everybody! :-)
I'm collecting infos about canon D10 because I'd like to buy it.
as I'm going to use it for sport shots with zoom, I'm worried about the delay between the "click" and the instant the pic is shot.
for example: I'm following a volleyball game....will I manage to catch the action the moment I decide to push the button, or it will be too late for the camera?
how is delay compared to a normal reflex mounting the same zoom?
thanks a lot
mike
perfectpixel
16th of September 2003 (Tue), 17:56
does this answer your question?
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1758165&size=sm
cardigan1979
16th of September 2003 (Tue), 19:03
Hey up Mike Volley,
There is a slight delay with the 10D compared to film but after 2 ,3 matches you soon get used to being aware of greater anticipation of the action. I shoot football (soccer to all the weirdos) and have no problem now. It trily is a fantastic peice of tackle for sports. The colour is as good as film. I'm very very happy with mine I 'm sure you will be if you decide to take the plunge.
defordphoto
16th of September 2003 (Tue), 19:06
Or this: http://racefamily.racinglines.com/Galleries/SprintBoats/August2003/RC_Crash/index.htm
Please note that this sequence was with two cameras at two different angles. The EXIF info shows what camera was shooting what.
I haven't had a problem with the camera delay on the 10D, which there is delay in EVERY camera. The main delay is the one in my brain. ;) But, seriously, I have not lost any photos because of the camera, though you do have to watch your buffer.
That being said, there are faster cameras out there. The 1D is probably the best sports camera on the market right now and has a much larger buffer than the 10D, which will be a stumbling block from time to time shooting sports.
Nikon also has the D1H, 1DH or whatever they call it. It's a screaming fast camera, but is an anemic 2.7 megapixels.
I use the 10D and D60 with various zoom lenses. See my latest work at: http://www.rfmsports.com/USSBA/Photos/USSBAPhotos.html
pgosu
16th of September 2003 (Tue), 22:12
Yes, there is a shutter lag with the 10d. It's more pronounced than with a 1D or high end film cameras. But, you can still take great shots...just work on seeing what's about to happen before it actually does. :)
Vegas Poboy
16th of September 2003 (Tue), 22:15
I shoot Drag cars and not had any type of delay using my 28-70mm Sigma. If your really unsure of when to shoot, put your settings to AI servo & continuous drive. Also try panning your shots to follow the action.
Have fun
Erin
16th of September 2003 (Tue), 22:37
You have had good advice here, another thing that helps immensely with action photography using the 10D and similar spec cameras is lense's with a fast aperture.
A 70-200 2.8 would be a good start. These range in price from around $600 US for a Sigma EX HSM 70-200 2.8to US$1800 for the Canon 70-200 2.8 USM Image Stabilised version.
So there is one to suit your pocket out there. All of them will do the job. Add this to your pricelist if you wish to get more consistent results from your sports pics
Dans_D60
16th of September 2003 (Tue), 23:01
Yep. Fast enough:
http://www.pettusphoto.com/vs/fast.jpg
Dan
http://www.pettusphoto.com
Barnsie
16th of September 2003 (Tue), 23:20
Shutter lag of the 10D isn't a problem for me...
http://www.digitalnj.com/bosox/Bosox03%20L%2003_small.jpg
Barnsie
AliasMoze
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 04:14
Hi, I am a digital SLR noob, thinking about buying a 10D or 300D.
What causes the shutter lag? The auto focus? If so, do you experience the lag when shooting using manual focus?
eos10dmacosx
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 06:39
The lag is minimal and like anything new the more you practice the better you will get at it.
Volleyball, Netball is a lot harder to shoot than say, Football, Soccer as it it a lot harder to preempt where the ball is going. Football, soccer, surfing, waterskiing, etc. you have time to follow and pan the players/persons.
I find it easier to shoot higher level of Volleyball easier than children (unexperienced) players as the play (the ball) is totally unpredicatable.
ssim
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 09:19
I enjoy auto racing and I certainly haven't had any problems with the lag time between pressing the shutter and the time the image is captured.
My first car race I shot totally in RAW and was not entirely pleased. The second one I shot in sports mode and was much happier.
Here's a sample. If there was a time lag the car most certainly would have passed given the speed these things move.
http://www.pbase.com/image/20611481.jpg
lime
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 10:27
It will take some getting use to, but doesn't take long to get the hang of it.
Here's one taken w/ 10D, 135L 2.0 @800ISO, wide open, in very poor lighting.
http://www.pbase.com/image/18934734.jpg
J.A.F. Doorhof
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 11:10
No problems here, look at www.doorhof.nl and the folder SCE for some fast shots (or the birds folder).
I have NOT shot on film, but switched from a HP850 which was unusable (well maybe a bit to strong) for real sport moments.
If you are afraid of shutterlag just use the continues shooting mode, it will alway's capture what you want, couple it with the AF drive and it will get you everything you want.
Greetings,
Frank
Webster
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 15:55
If you use one-shot autofocus there can be a significant delay while the camera seeks focus - significant meaning up to several seconds, depending on lens. Shooting ai focus, there's never a delay due to autofocus but the trade-off is more shots out of focus.
MarkH
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 17:51
Some motor racing here:
http://arrdee.net/%7Eflyinass/markpics/RotoRally_2003.htm
All were shot with my 10D + 28-135IS Lens. The lens has the ring-type USM which is fast to focus.
Some shots were done with one-shot focus, this gave the action of focus-click-focus-click, pretty fast (under .5 sec to focus in good light with similar distances).
Some shots were done with manual focus set to where the cars were going to be, in good light I could have a pretty good depth of focus to give me some leeway. I wanted 1/200sec to give me steady pics but with wheel and maybe background blur. I used Tv and set it to 1/200, in good light the camera was setting the aperture to f:9 - f:13, which made it easy to get in focus shots with the focus pre-set for where I planned to shoot.
On manual focus I think that the delay was only around
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