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Spinners
16th of September 2003 (Tue), 22:03
I own the canon EOS10D and i am wondering.. how in the heck do i attach vignette filters to the camera? it seems you need some type of filter holder?

is this a gel holder? is this different for every lense i own?

thanks in advance.

Spinners
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 07:20
Anyone?? hello?? :)

DAMphyne
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 07:27
What kind of vignette filter are you talking about, I've got an old Lindahl montager that uses a filter ring to mount to the lens. The problem I have with it now is the focus movement of my lenses.
Most of the vignettes can be done in PS, so I don't have to use it on the camera now.

CyberDyneSystems
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 08:22
Quite frankly I have no idea what a vignette filter is,. but most lenses made that will fit the 10D are threaded for filters,. so it would be a matter of a filter holder made with the same size threads as those on your lens.

Spinners
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 08:42
vignette filters give you that blurry effect around the edges or bottom of the picture. kinda like smearing a clear gel on your uv filter.

all the ones ive seen are 3x3 or 4x4. they seem to fit into a square frame.

i can do the effect in photoshop, but i prefer to spend as little time as possible there.

kafene
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 16:43
spinners wrote:
I own the canon EOS10D and i am wondering.. how in the heck do i attach vignette filters to the camera? it seems you need some type of filter holder?

is this a gel holder? is this different for every lense i own?

thanks in advance.

I have my old Cokin filter set that I used with my Canon EOS-1N RS and it fits just as well on my Canon 10D. I used the lens attachment I got with it that connects to the threads on the lens.

My issue now is, should I Photoshop in vignettes or use the filter. I think the filters come out more 'natural' looking but once the picture's taken, that's it. If you shot the image without the filters, you can at least determine if the shot warrants a vignette or not and add them later.

kafene.

robertwgross
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 18:46
Spinners, it sounds like you are asking about a Cokin filter system. It has a filter holder that screws onto the front of your lens and it holds a rectangular flat piece of plastic filter. The main use for mine is for a graduated neutral density filter.

---Bob Gross---

DaveG
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 18:59
I have the double length Lindahl bellows shade that's designed to take the low key (dark) vignetters. These vignetters must be shaded or they won't work right, thus the extra length shade. High Key vignetters (the white ones) can be used without the double bellows since a little bit more flair won't hurt.

Having said all of that: a) I won't use my Lindahl lens shade on the Canon lenses. It's far too heavy and would damage the lens. I just bought a Lee bellows lens shade that's much lighter, won't take vignetters but shades great! Which brings us to b) You don't need to do in camera vigetting anymore. Use Photoshop, add a second layer and use the gradiant tool to make safe and do overable post production vignettes.

Spinners
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 21:21
hmm i will try that. does photoshop have vignette tool. i didnt see one. you would think they wouldve thought of that!

RGorrill
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 21:52
Hey Spinners,

Why not use a clear UVa filter and cut out a piece of masking tape in an oval shape and place the tape on the filter when it is mounted on the lens for proper placement. Then, remove the filter from the lens and use hair spray on the filter with the tape in place. Allow it to dry, remove the tape, and now you have a nice filter that will soften the edges of your photographs and that you can then use a clean water rinse at a later time to remove the hair spray and go back to a having nice clear and sharp filter.

Bob

Spinners
17th of September 2003 (Wed), 21:59
hey.. thats pretty creative. i just might try that.

thanks for the information everyone!!

DAMphyne
18th of September 2003 (Thu), 15:41
Spinners,
I don't think PS has a vignette filter,(possibly a plug-in is available) but try this.
Use the round selection tool to get the shape of the vignette that you want, feather the selection (in the select drop down menu), try 8 or 10 for the feather number. Then , select inverse and fill the selection. this should give you a idea of what PS can do.
You can change the color of the vignette, increase or decrease the feather, even change the density of the vignette in the fill mode.
Sometimes I don't fill, just use a very high feather, then
go to the filter menu and do a Gausian Blur.
Always save-as, so you don't change your original file, you may want to try different styles and compare them side by side to get an idea of what looks good to you.
If you shoot with the vignette, it will always be on the photo, if you do it with your imagining program, you have more flexability.
Good luck, and have a good time.