View Full Version : IS (Image Stabilizatized) Camera Body?
hudsonch
23rd of May 2006 (Tue), 15:43
Can this topic be listed on the brainstorming agenda of a new and try-to-be-innovative camera manufacturer (say, Samsung)? Is this actually feasible?
CyberDyneSystems
23rd of May 2006 (Tue), 16:12
Oh it's feasible. Minolta had a few models that incorporated this technology,. and they are superb cameras.
It is Sony that is now in possesion of Minolta's excellent sensor mounted Vibration Reduction technology, as well as all of Minolta's DSLR system, plants etc...
I'd expect line of "Sonolta" (Sony + Minolta) branded DSLRs soon.. (like in under 2 years soon,. not next month soon)
The obvious first model would use the D200's Sony 10MP sensor.
"SamTax" (Samsung + Pentax) does not yet have in body IS,. and in fact I'm not sure that betwwen them they have even lens IS yet.
However,. "PanOliecalympusonic" (Panasonic, Olympus and Leica) Do have BOTH technologies available to them,. ;)
CoolToolGuy
23rd of May 2006 (Tue), 18:59
Not so fast with that Samtax opinion, CDS:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0605/06052205pentaxk100d.asp
Just out today! :)
Have Fun,
CoolToolGuy
23rd of May 2006 (Tue), 19:06
Just to follow on with the IS discussion, I think IS (or some sort of stabilization) may overtake the consumer side of the market. Sony has it, Pentax just announced it, Panasonic (Lumix) is pushing it, and both of Canon's latest walkaround EF-S lenses have it. It could become one of the must-have features for any player in the consumer DSLR market.
All of which is one man's opinion. . .
Have Fun,
Rumjungle
25th of May 2006 (Thu), 18:49
If that's the case, talk about getting gouged by Canon. Being that they've invested so much into IS on lenses, I doubt they'll make an IS body anytime soon. Instead, we, as Canon users, will just have to take on the extra costs of having IS on our lenses.
pierrot
25th of May 2006 (Thu), 19:07
...but they put IS into their Ixus 800 ;)
lakiluno
26th of May 2006 (Fri), 09:18
which is in the lens
CyberDyneSystems
26th of May 2006 (Fri), 09:50
Not so fast with that Samtax opinion, CDS:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0605/06052205pentaxk100d.asp
Just out today! :)
Have Fun,
Wow,. that was fast! :lol:
Awesome,. looks like a nice option,. too bad Pentax is stuck on 6MP and slow frame rates though. Frame rates at the very least I would have expected to jump with the Samsung memory giant ivolved.
I'd really love Canon to incorporate this tech soon,. but I doubt they will.
It would be fantastic to get in body IS for all of our non IS lenses.
My 200mm f/1.8 with IS ;)
Sigma 300-800mm with IS.. etc etc etc
One really sad thing is that for most of Sigma's best telephotos, they do not make versions for either Minolta or Pentax... so even with this great in body IS technology it's not possible to get a super tele combo from Sigma, unless you find an old Minolta mount copy of the 500mm (they used to make that)
Tom W
26th of May 2006 (Fri), 20:21
I'd settle for a 1:1 or 1:1.25 IS converter - something that would work with all or most lenses.
ron chappel
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 18:44
It's fantastic to see pentax offering this feature as well !
I see Sony has significantly improved the IS ability of the minolta to the extent that is (claimed to be) slightly better than canon's in lens version !!
Canon better offer this feature in at least one body or i'm changing brands eventually
Rumjungle
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 20:26
Anyone have the real-world prices on the faster Sony/Minolta lenses? From what I've seen, they're very steep. But those may have been retail prices...I'm not sure. If they were the street prices, then it's still cheaper paying for the IS in the lenses than buying the Sony counterpart.
CyberDyneSystems
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 20:52
I'd expect line of "Sonolta" (Sony + Minolta) branded DSLRs soon.. (like in under 2 years soon,. not next month soon)
O-kay,. so Sonolta was out of the gate with there 10MP IS enabled alpha about a week after I posted that! Sometimes it's good to be soooo wrong!
I'm dieing for the next 1D to have in camera IS! (I know. dreamer get your head out of the clouds :( )
Longwatcher
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 23:19
I apparently am an exception.
I want IS where it will do the most good, while affecting the image the least, which is in the lens where it belongs. Since I am only going for 1-series, you all can have it on all of the other cameras if you want, but I don't want it or need it in the camera. I also have not seen any sigificant utility to IS below 50mm focal length, so don't need it on my wider lenses. However, I suspect that it will appear on wider lenses then is really useful for marketing reasons. I won't get into the physics discussions of why it should be in the lens, this has previously been discussed with the acknowledgement that in camera IS is better then no IS when needed.
But you all are welcome to whatever you like as long as it doesn't get in the way of what I want. :)
Just my opinion,
CyberDyneSystems
17th of June 2006 (Sat), 02:07
:lol:
I think you can turn it off :)
ron chappel
18th of June 2006 (Sun), 19:35
Anyone have the real-world prices on the faster Sony/Minolta lenses? From what I've seen, they're very steep. But those may have been retail prices...I'm not sure. If they were the street prices, then it's still cheaper paying for the IS in the lenses than buying the Sony counterpart.
In the past this has definitely been the case.However when i looked at the sony lens prices the other day they seemed quite good.
It's been ages since i did an accurate lens by lens comparison,maybe it's time again
BTBeilke
19th of June 2006 (Mon), 17:17
I was under the impression that in-camera IS was feasible with smaller sensors (up to APS-C) but that in its current form did not translate to full-size sensors. Has that changed?
ron chappel
19th of June 2006 (Mon), 22:23
Yes, that is absolutally right blane.
They could use larger than 1.6 crop but anything near full frame is unusable to the point of uselessness
vBulletin® v3.6.12, Copyright ©2000-2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.