Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM - The Brick [Archive] - Page 10

Radiohead369

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 15:20

I don't know why, but when i see many many websites i notice that 5D produce the best IQ with any lens over another DSLRs from Canon or another brands, i hope i am not dreaming or just i fantasy more.

I noticed that also... They do produce the best IQ.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/2626755660_6610bbd395_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3005/2571622498_019c3aa188_o.jpg

Made myself a desktop background today.. lol :]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3287/2690844063_8c395a73ab_b.jpg

suyenfung

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 15:21

thanks. conversions are done with bridge/acr.

tareq i totally agree. i have no interest in any other camera. and the 5d and the 24-70 love each other. a lot.

Tareq

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 15:40

Too bad that my 5D is not working, i will sent it to repair center later, but really all the shots i've got from 5D are top quality and clarity.

ieatstars

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 16:21

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d140/suuupra/IMG_4625s.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d140/suuupra/IMG_4318copy.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d140/suuupra/IMG_4325copy.jpg

alt4852

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 16:28

I don't know why, but when i see many many websites i notice that 5D produce the best IQ with any lens over another DSLRs from Canon or another brands, i hope i am not dreaming or just i fantasy more.

may partially be psychological. as much as i respect the 5D, i had the opportunity to use a D300 and a D3 at a wedding i was shooting last week and i'll have to give credit when it's due.. nikon has done a really great job with those two. the nikkor 14-24mm f/2.8 mounted on the D3 was pure magic.

i think the majority of what makes a good picture lies in the photographer, more so than the equipment. =)

Tareq

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 16:38

may partially be psychological. as much as i respect the 5D, i had the opportunity to use a D300 and a D3 at a wedding i was shooting last week and i'll have to give credit when it's due.. nikon has done a really great job with those two. the nikkor 14-24mm f/2.8 mounted on the D3 was pure magic.

i think the majority of what makes a good picture lies in the photographer, more so than the equipment. =)

If i didn't see many amazing photos from another cameras whatever they are then i will never believe your statements, but just i see many shots from different cameras, but the amount of high quality from 5D is more than another cameras from what i see, thats why i said it may that 5D doing better job more than other DSLR bodies.

Spazzmodicus

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 17:59

i think the majority of what makes a good picture lies in the photographer, more so than the equipment. =)

If that was the case it would be much cheaper to shoot with a 10D and a handful of psychology.

As far as 5D shooting better pics, there's probably a lot more 5D's out there in the hands of amateurs than there are 1D series for example, particularly those inhabiting photo-sharing forums.

alt4852

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 18:49

If that was the case it would be much cheaper to shoot with a 10D and a handful of psychology.

As far as 5D shooting better pics, there's probably a lot more 5D's out there in the hands of amateurs than there are 1D series for example, particularly those inhabiting photo-sharing forums.

not sure what a "handful of psychology" means, but i'm just referencing the fact that a really nice picture is created through the vision of the photographer.. not so much the sharpness or color rendition of the equipment. i personally know quite a few photographers who are much more talented than i am who use an xti, and if you thumb through the really amazing pictures on some art/photo sites, they are often made with cheaper cameras. funny that you should mention the 10D because i just ran into a picture the other day which was taken by a very gifted photographer on deviantart who captioned at the bottom, "taken with my old 10D, the mk2 is in the shop for repairs! ;)"

Spazzmodicus

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 19:54

not sure what a "handful of psychology" means, but i'm just referencing the fact that a really nice picture is created through the vision of the photographer.. not so much the sharpness or color rendition of the equipment. i personally know quite a few photographers who are much more talented than i am who use an xti, and if you thumb through the really amazing pictures on some art/photo sites, they are often made with cheaper cameras. funny that you should mention the 10D because i just ran into a picture the other day which was taken by a very gifted photographer on deviantart who captioned at the bottom, "taken with my old 10D, the mk2 is in the shop for repairs! ;)"

"handful of psychology" was a bit of sarcasm, wit and a touch of humor all rolled up into a nice little phrase...heh heh. I agree with your sentiment above. I've seen inspirational images by photographers here on POTN that were capture with equipment that is inferior to what I'm using now, although you couldn't tell that by looking at the image. DozerLYP is one that comes to mind.

VandJmedia

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 00:07

He is one of my shots with the 24-70mm f2.8L 40D Body... More to come.
http://www.vandjmedia.com/lighthouse/album/slides/lighthousejb.jpg

VandJmedia

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 00:10

here is another..
http://www.vandjmedia.com/lighthouse/album/slides/lighthousejb1.jpg

NAisBEST

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 00:13

I just pulled the trigger and hit the "buy" button for one of these babies.....I feel so dirty now. :o Please tell me I did good fellahs!

Spazzmodicus

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 01:12

I just pulled the trigger and hit the "buy" button for one of these babies.....I feel so dirty now. :o Please tell me I did good fellahs!

You'll be glad you did it when you import the pics and start looking at them up close. Until then, you'll just have to be content with "feeling dirty"...heh heh.

agphotography

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 01:23

I took these one on my trip to NZ last april
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2219/2362518419_9a9fea37d6_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2412/2368667784_f657ba60db_o.jpg
*note - not a fake city. That is actually Queenstown, I just made it look that way :)

S-S

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 02:17

I took these one on my trip to NZ last april

*note - not a fake city. That is actually Queenstown, I just made it look that way :)

lol you sure did - mission accomplished ;)

xairsoft808x

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 03:21

here is another..
http://www.vandjmedia.com/lighthouse/album/slides/lighthousejb1.jpg
nice pics VandJmedia. focus seems a bit off. focus on the eyes or stop it down. pardon me if its just my eyes *slaps himself*.

mrerico

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 03:23

anyone else notice she has really white teeth?

xairsoft808x

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 03:28

anyone else notice she has really white teeth?

nope, haha. do you think they are too white? lol.

Spazzmodicus

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 03:30

anyone else notice she has really white teeth?

Um...nope. I was distracted by the whiteness of the t-shirt, particularly in the cleavage area.

...and I'm sure that was your point...heh heh.

mrerico

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 03:38

nope, haha. do you think they are too white? lol.

Um...nope. I was distracted by the whiteness of the t-shirt, particularly in the cleavage area.

...and I'm sure that was your point...heh heh.

nah i was just thinking aloud..I guess im wierd for thinking really white teeth is a cool thing hahaha

and yes the boobies are distracting :P :lol:

Spazzmodicus

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 03:44

.....and yes the boobies are distracting :P :lol:

Teeth?....what teeth?:)

xairsoft808x

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 04:56

nah i was just thinking aloud..I guess im wierd for thinking really white teeth is a cool thing hahaha

and yes the boobies are distracting :P :lol:

lol ok when someone takes a pic of you tell them that you want it so that you can dodge em'. lol

Teeth?....what teeth?:)

you guys are horrible people. :p

mrerico

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 05:06

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w170/azn-eric/OmoriEric1.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w170/azn-eric/OmoriEric2.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w170/azn-eric/OmoriEric3.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w170/azn-eric/OmoriEric4.jpg

this lense is on my camera 90% of the time :D

S-S

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 06:41

oh my, that huge yellow infant is very disturbing... it reminds me of that dancing baby animation from the internets a dacade ago...

kepople

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 11:58

The person who created that is one proud pedifile....

Kirby

NAisBEST

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 12:17

That yellow statue reminds me so much of chinless Lil' Jimmy Norton from the Opie and Anthony show haha.

http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/cc_insider/images/2007/10/16/jim_norton.jpg

Double Negative

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 12:26

oh my, that huge yellow infant is very disturbing... it reminds me of that dancing baby animation from the internets a dacade ago...

The "Ooga Chaka" dancing baby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_baby) from Ally McBeal! Nope, don't know it. ;)

alt4852

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 13:56

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w170/azn-eric/OmoriEric1.jpg

huntington library? i visited LA a few weeks ago and this place looks so familiar to me.

mrerico

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 17:11

huntington library? i visited LA a few weeks ago and this place looks so familiar to me.

nah its Cal State Long Beach's Japanese Garden :)

Kristy

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 17:49

nah its Cal State Long Beach's Japanese Garden :)

OOOHhhhhh... pretty.... I mean gorgeous! Do they let you take pictures there? I was going to do some bridal photos for a friend... and she'd love this place!! :)

Kristy

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 17:51

My contribution.. kid snapshots... my favorite.

http://ksnyderphoto.smugmug.com/photos/333592048_nji7i-L.jpg

Kristy

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 17:53

The "Ooga Chaka" dancing baby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_baby) from Ally McBeal! Nope, don't know it. ;)

I loved that dancing baby!! :)

mrerico

23rd of July 2008 (Wed), 20:25

OOOHhhhhh... pretty.... I mean gorgeous! Do they let you take pictures there? I was going to do some bridal photos for a friend... and she'd love this place!! :)

Yeah they let you take pictures there :)

Spazzmodicus

24th of July 2008 (Thu), 00:00

My contribution.. kid snapshots... my favorite.

Wow! Nice shot Kristy. That doesn't even look like an outdoors shot.
(based on the blue skies in her eyes.)

Spazzmodicus

24th of July 2008 (Thu), 00:24

Japanese friends clowning around.

This was shot outdoors during the evening. Still plenty of daylight left. About 5:30 PM. My exif times are all screwed up and haven't fixed it yet.

I used a total of 5 speedlite's in this shot. 6 if you want to count the ST-E2. A 580EX I & II shooting into a silver umbrella on the right. A 550EX shooting into a white umbrella on the left. A 430EX and 420EX illuminating the background on a short light stand. Probably should've cropped it a bit but this was just a quick export from a current batch that I haven't processed yet. (I processed this one for the quick export)

Edit: I couldn't handle looking at the lop-sided frame due to the 1.6 body so I re-linked a cropped version.

http://www.all-event-photos.com/img/v0/p280219410-4.jpg

i_am_hydrogen

25th of July 2008 (Fri), 23:25

Cute shot, Kristy.

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2976/cornereu8.jpg

i_am_hydrogen

25th of July 2008 (Fri), 23:32

Another recent pano (small size). I tried to underexposed the buildings a little bit to draw out the sky.
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4534/northavepanohh6.jpg

Spazzmodicus

26th of July 2008 (Sat), 01:49

Another recent pano (small size). I tried to underexposed the buildings a little bit to draw out the sky.
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4534/northavepanohh6.jpg

Sheesh...the one above this one almost looks like a vertical pano.

I went out to shoot a pano the other day but forgot the ISO was set to 1600 from a previous shoot.....so I got a lot of wasted shots. I'm going to try adjusting the ball head every few shots to eliminate the curved look that is always typical of panos.

i_am_hydrogen

26th of July 2008 (Sat), 01:54

Sheesh...the one above this one almost looks like a vertical pano.

I went out to shoot a pano the other day but forgot the ISO was set to 1600 from a previous shoot.....so I got a lot of wasted shots. I'm going to try adjusting the ball head every few shots to eliminate the curved look that is always typical of panos.

Did you check your histogram for proper exposure?

As for panos, the distortion can be artistic if used in the right way.

Spazzmodicus

26th of July 2008 (Sat), 01:55

http://www.all-event-photos.com/img/v2/p960925364-5.jpg

i_am_hydrogen

26th of July 2008 (Sat), 01:58

^Wonderful shot. You nailed the focus.

Spazzmodicus

26th of July 2008 (Sat), 01:59

Did you check your histogram for proper exposure?

As for panos, the distortion can be artistic if used in the right way.

The only thing histograms are good for, to me, is to make sure the photo isn't flat-lined and dead...heh heh. I'm sure histograms are plenty useful, I just never learned to read them....

Spazzmodicus

26th of July 2008 (Sat), 02:03

^Wonderful shot. You nailed the focus.

Thanks. "The Brick" is on my camera 90% of the time and I don't see that changing anytime soon. I've been thinking real hard about trying the 16-35mm f/2.8 MkII...but that's a pretty good chunk of money and I'm pretty sure it can't compete with the brick in most cases....

i_am_hydrogen

26th of July 2008 (Sat), 02:03

The only thing histograms are good for, to me, is to make sure the photo isn't flat-lined and dead...heh heh. I'm sure histograms are plenty useful, I just never learned to read them....

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/understanding-series/understanding-histograms.shtml

The shot of the two kids is perfectly exposed. There's a lot of detail in the boy's shirt. Sure, the grass is a bit hot, but it's a sacrifice that needed to be made.

Spazzmodicus

26th of July 2008 (Sat), 02:17

Thanks for the link...I'll look it over real good.

This is my brother in his ATV. It get's used like this more than for any other purpose.

It was a tripod-mounted pan shot. With all those little kids, he was only traveling 5 to 10mph or less. The vignetting is a PP effect, not the lens.

http://www.all-event-photos.com/img/v1/p983874405-5.jpg

Phil Light

26th of July 2008 (Sat), 09:06

He is one of my shots with the 24-70mm f2.8L 40D Body... More to come.

VandJmedia, welcome to the forum. You are very fortunate to have such a beautiful model to shoot. Very nice pose and composition too. Would you be willing to enable image editing in your profile? I'd like to try a minor edit in Photoshop to see what you think.

i_am_hydrogen

26th of July 2008 (Sat), 22:36

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9311/prestowersdl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

S-S

27th of July 2008 (Sun), 04:03

The "Ooga Chaka" dancing baby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_baby) from Ally McBeal! Nope, don't know it. ;)

yeh me neither... ;)

(i wish)

echo

27th of July 2008 (Sun), 14:42

I've not used my 24-70L that much for a while as I wasn't really getting the shots that I thought I was getting, ie, too many OOF images. Anyway, tweaked on the 1DmkIII and now looking forward to using it again!

Just a few snaps from today at f/2.8

http://recordproduction.smugmug.com/photos/339807404_5EnpL-XL.jpg

http://recordproduction.smugmug.com/photos/339811049_KFceM-XL.jpg

Sorry about the dribble!

Mike

gospastic

27th of July 2008 (Sun), 15:12

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/2706855047_e912cb5391_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewgospastic/2706855047/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3184/2706850423_794411ba44_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewgospastic/2706850423/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2705210177_aed6b80c81_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewgospastic/2705210177/sizes/l/)

littleman23408

27th of July 2008 (Sun), 16:27

The person on the yellow shirt reminds me of Dale Gribble from King of the Hill.

hahaha

Mani-aX

28th of July 2008 (Mon), 11:47

http://miagrill.no-ip.com/Mani-aX/CanonDigital/IMG_1403-2.jpg

i have a few shots from our visit to Pensacola,FL (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=pensacola,+fl&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=title)

F2.8 @ 70mm Burst

1downfall

28th of July 2008 (Mon), 12:44

I am loving this shot! very nice capture of innocence:D
.http://www.all-event-photos.com/img/v2/p960925364-5.jpg

Franko515

28th of July 2008 (Mon), 17:36

One from a senior shoot I did

Kristy

28th of July 2008 (Mon), 18:08

Wow! Nice shot Kristy. That doesn't even look like an outdoors shot.
(based on the blue skies in her eyes.)

Thanks! :) Just on our front porch.. it's covered and super sunny behind me. ... challenging shooting in Arizona. Sometimes I get lucky... ;)

Yeah they let you take pictures there :)
Awesome!! I'm going to have to keep that in the back of my head for the future. I'll be out in Orange County in a few weeks... so... could be worth stopping by.

Cute shot, Kristy.

:) Thanks! I like your architecture too! For some reason I never shoot buildings... little eyes always grab my attention first. :)

suyenfung

29th of July 2008 (Tue), 21:16

http://www.inluxcreative.com/images/uploads/potn/08.07.29_15.28.00.jpg

i am becoming slightly obsessed with this lens. it just has that certain something, it is a very special piece of equipment.

Sfordphoto

29th of July 2008 (Tue), 21:48

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9311/prestowersdl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
wow i just took the canal architectural tour of chicago, and i don't remember seeing these buildings...

gospastic

29th of July 2008 (Tue), 23:21

wow i just took the canal architectural tour of chicago, and i don't remember seeing these buildings...

That's because the river doesn't pass by them.

Radiohead369

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 18:48

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2717332103_ae02d3245a_o.jpg

Spazzmodicus

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 18:58

What? Only a single exposure this time Radiohead? Are you feeling a little under the weather? Heh heh...

Radiohead369

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 19:06

haha. I just thought it looked better like this:cool:

Hawkeye75

30th of July 2008 (Wed), 23:48

Pic of local temple

donaldinc

31st of July 2008 (Thu), 01:20

pedal*

mrerico

31st of July 2008 (Thu), 01:21

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3149/2638865468_3171fc9ffe.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3137/2638033375_057eac13b0.jpg?v=0

DEMO

31st of July 2008 (Thu), 10:06

The last one is pretty trippy..

Spazzmodicus

31st of July 2008 (Thu), 13:30

http://www.all-event-photos.com/img/v1/p357956257-4.jpg

http://www.all-event-photos.com/img/v1/p424471113-4.jpg

VandJmedia

31st of July 2008 (Thu), 22:55

VandJmedia, welcome to the forum. You are very fortunate to have such a beautiful model to shoot. Very nice pose and composition too. Would you be willing to enable image editing in your profile? I'd like to try a minor edit in Photoshop to see what you think.

Sure no problem. I am very new i have been shooting for like 3 months. I appreciate the help and criticism.

saralee

1st of August 2008 (Fri), 01:05

http://i37.tinypic.com/2qb689e.jpg

Just trying it out wide open.

Spazzmodicus

1st of August 2008 (Fri), 09:00

Just trying it out wide open.

The focus of the 24-70 is so precise that if you were weaving a little bit while standing there at the clothes-line, you'll see it in the photo. For example, look at the clothes-line just in front of the clothes pin.

i_am_hydrogen

1st of August 2008 (Fri), 22:39

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2717332103_ae02d3245a_o.jpg

Slick angle. I like the desaturated look.

i_am_hydrogen

1st of August 2008 (Fri), 23:07

Dug one up from last weekend:
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2974/undertheeljt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

John Trogdon

1st of August 2008 (Fri), 23:29

Kevin, that's an awesome shot. I may have to pry the 85L off my 5D and mount my 24-70 back on for a while. ;)

i_am_hydrogen

1st of August 2008 (Fri), 23:34

Kevin, that's an awesome shot. I may have to pry the 85L off my 5D and mount my 24-70 back on for a while. ;)

Thanks, though I can't fault you for keeping the 85L strapped to your camera. I'd probably forget about my other lenses if I owned one.

Sfordphoto

2nd of August 2008 (Sat), 01:21

Dug one up from last weekend:
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2974/undertheeljt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

chiiii town!

Radiohead369

2nd of August 2008 (Sat), 01:39

Thanks Hydrogen:mrgreen:

NAisBEST

2nd of August 2008 (Sat), 03:04

Some really great shots in here! Just got mine, and it's on it's way towards taking my life over :D

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/onefivealive/IMG_8914.jpg

And here's a crop with zero sharpening added. This thing is extremely sharp.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/onefivealive/IMG_8922crop.jpg

tbrasington

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 06:52

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/2728003462_d36997c7e0_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3100/2727177041_fde9bac5db_b.jpg

Other than a bit of sharpening from Apertures RAW conversion these are straight from the camera.

martin2day

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 07:10

Some really great shots in here! Just got mine, and it's on it's way towards taking my life over
Amaizing copy. Lucky you.

Spazzmodicus

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 10:28

Amaizing copy. Lucky you.

If you're not happy with the results from your lens, you might want to think about sending it in to Canon. I think they can calibrate it, which I think they don't quite do as meticulously during the mass production of the lens......

borneoeye

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 11:10

I have a love and hate relationship with this lens, sometimes it shines sometimes it's a turn off.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/borneoeye/SIm7N0nX2YI/AAAAAAAACus/TtPni9rJJPo/s800/Teun006.JPG

Spazzmodicus

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 11:29

I have a love and hate relationship with this lens, sometimes it shines sometimes it's a turn off.

I get a lot of great shots with mine, it's my main lens at the moment. But I have noticed that that the focus can go soft or flare a little bit when doing wide-angle close-ups.

brianch

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 11:50

i was comparing my new 24-70 to my uncles years old 24-70. do you believe that his feels a bit heavier then mine? plus its much sharper of course.

Tareq

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 11:58

Franko515

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 12:32

Really it is amazing to see that there are copies sharp and another copies of the same lens not that tack sharp, is it really the lens or it is something that some members didn't consider when comparing two same lenses side by side, i feel the happiest person in Canon life because all my gear is working fine and lenses are sharp even my crap lenses 18-55 and 28-90 and sigma 12-24, even my 350D is a fun if i use it for macro, so i just enjoy my lenses and i don't care about what people here talking about softness of any lens.

I think lots of people test lenses shooting handheld and dont realize how narrow DOF can be. A little sway in your stance or just a bit of subject movement and your focus is off.

All new 24-70 owners should check out the DOF calculator (http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html)

Tareq

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 14:26

I think lots of people test lenses shooting handheld and dont realize how narrow DOF can be. A little sway in your stance or just a bit of subject movement and your focus is off.

All new 24-70 owners should check out the DOF calculator (http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html)

I don't think this is a case, not all people there do handheld for comparison, i am sure there are people did tripod comparisons and still not find sharp results as they want.
I think if they stop worry and that softness junky stories then they will be fine, and if they are pixel peeper then it will be difficult for them to be happy with many lenses or gear.

Franko515

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 14:49

I don't think this is a case, not all people there do handheld for comparison, i am sure there are people did tripod comparisons and still not find sharp results as they want.
I think if they stop worry and that softness junky stories then they will be fine, and if they are pixel peeper then it will be difficult for them to be happy with many lenses or gear.

I do think this is the case, but not all the time. Yes there are people who actually have softer copies of many lenses, but I believe there are many more that experience this softness because of DOF issues (user error). As far as pixel peepers, you are correct it's hard for them to be happy with lots of different lenses for lots of different reasons.

In any case I am happy with all of my gear :D

Tareq

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 14:54

I do think this is the case, but not all the time. Yes there are people who actually have softer copies of many lenses, but I believe there are many more that experience this softness because of DOF issues (user error). As far as pixel peepers, you are correct it's hard for them to be happy with lots of different lenses for lots of different reasons.

In any case I am happy with all of my gear :D

Good for you, and me too ;):D

martin2day

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 16:03

If you're not happy with the results from your lens, you might want to think about sending it in to Canon. I think they can calibrate it, which I think they don't quite do as meticulously during the mass production of the lens......
I'm just wonder if a soft copy can be turn into a sharp one by calibration? By the way, my copy is soft at 24mm/2.8 (in my opinion) and even softer at 72mm/2.8? It is normal?
Thank you

Franko515

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 16:15

I'm just wonder if a soft copy can be turn into a sharp one by calibration? By the way, my copy is soft at 24mm/2.8 (in my opinion) and even softer at 72mm/2.8? It is normal?
Thank you

Im sure you mean 70mm right?

I dont think that its normal. Can you post a few examples? Are you viewing crops or the whole shot? Are these shot hand held, if so at what distance to the subject?

Tareq

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 16:45

oh yes, it is soft wide open at 70mm, too bad, what i can do now? my copy is soft.

Cropped
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/566/shot1vv6.jpg

Uncropped
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4116/shot2ed1.jpg

Spazzmodicus

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 17:10

Wow Tareq, that looks like crap. I think you need to get a 1Ds MkIII.

(I only say that because I want your 1ds MkII. :))

Tareq

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 17:18

Wow Tareq, that looks like crap. I think you need to get a 1Ds MkIII.

(I only say that because I want your 1ds MkII. :))

Hey Spazz, you wanna see a real crap from my 1Ds mkII? then here is a shot of that crap

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1964/shot31ma6.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7448/shot32nx7.jpg

OH! I really need 1Ds mkIII [Soon i will order it]

Tareq

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 17:33

Black & White is worse, more crappy

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5932/shot3bwos0.jpg

We will open an auction on my 1Ds mkII

Start with $6500 [Exl. shipping + Tax] ;)

Spazzmodicus

3rd of August 2008 (Sun), 19:45

We will open an auction on my 1Ds mkII

Start with $6500 [Exl. shipping + Tax] ;)

Heh heh...add one more "I" onto "1Ds mkII" and that price will be about right..........

Tareq

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 05:21

Heh heh...add one more "I" onto "1Ds mkII" and that price will be about right..........

I found somewhere 1Ds3 with about $7000, did you find it less than this price somewhere?

And my 1Ds2 become a classic camera ;-) so it is worth $8000

elysium

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 06:53

DAMN Im gonna knock someone out! God mine courtesy of a POTN member, this thing is just uber awesome! Cant wait for some real life shooting with it now. :D

So excited.

Tareq

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 06:58

DAMN Im gonna knock someone out! God mine courtesy of a POTN member, this thing is just uber awesome! Cant wait for some real life shooting with it now. :D

So excited.

OK, waiting your shots :)

elysium

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 14:47

Self portrait as my first real practical shot. Not planning to sit here spending 3 days with focus charts seeing how sharp my lens is.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9012/img84962av1.jpg

Spazzmodicus

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 14:52

Self portrait as my first real practical shot. Not planning to sit here spending 3 days with focus charts seeing how sharp my lens is.

Hilarious expression. :eek:

elysium

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 15:33

Going to tag it as "ooooh! shiney!"

Tareq

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 16:43

Great, no need for silly charts tests, you pass that "successfully" and have sharp copy.

Congratulations! Have fun!

martin2day

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 17:32

Im sure you mean 70mm right?

I dont think that its normal. Can you post a few examples? Are you viewing crops or the whole shot? Are these shot hand held, if so at what distance to the subject?
I'll put some samples tomorrow.

motion_projekt

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 18:55

Tareq, how do you afford all your gear? LOL. Teach me, a poor college student, your ways! LOL.

alt4852

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 21:40

Tareq, how do you afford all your gear? LOL. Teach me, a poor college student, your ways! LOL.

as a fellow poor college student, i think i might have to revoke your membership card for owning two one-series bodies and three L lenses. ;)

Radiohead369

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 21:58

as a fellow poor college student, i think i might have to revoke your membership card for owning two one-series bodies and three L lenses. ;)

HAHA!

No really though, that's a real heavy setup.

Radiohead369

4th of August 2008 (Mon), 22:35

f/2.8

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/2733517507_2d5d7fea58.jpg

agphotography

5th of August 2008 (Tue), 00:50

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/2734759560_f19d6e723b_o.jpg

Took this yesterday in Newport Beach, CA
I thought it was quite beautiful to see this one lone shell be washed up on the sand.

motion_projekt

5th of August 2008 (Tue), 00:57

as a fellow poor college student, i think i might have to revoke your membership card for owning two one-series bodies and three L lenses. ;)

I'm also working 3 jobs and planing on interning at a local daily newspaper sooner or later.

HAHA!

No really though, that's a real heavy setup.

It is...I'm gonna sell one i think. the 1D Classic.

Paul Tinworth

5th of August 2008 (Tue), 06:22

Beautiful capture, agphotography!

Ahhh... I'm bursting to make this lens mine! :cry:

Tareq

5th of August 2008 (Tue), 08:24

Tareq, how do you afford all your gear? LOL. Teach me, a poor college student, your ways! LOL.

From my salary, bad salary but i try my hard to afford as much as i can, i was saved since 2004 [most of my salary], then starting from 2006 i spend too much on my gear [about 75% of my current gear], then i keep spending but less in 2007 and this year [i don't think so when i will get 1Ds3 after my 1D3 this year].

agphotography

5th of August 2008 (Tue), 11:59

Beautiful capture, agphotography!

Ahhh... I'm bursting to make this lens mine! :cry:

Thanks!
And I highly recommend you do it. I sold my 24-70L in May of this year and purchased a 24L (which is incredible in its own right) And I was missing the 24-70 so much I turned around and sold the 24L and bought a brand new 24-70! I learned a good lesson through that though. Not to abandon kits that work really well together.

Spazzmodicus

5th of August 2008 (Tue), 12:06

Thanks!
And I highly recommend you do it. I sold my 24-70L in May of this year and purchased a 24L (which is incredible in its own right) And I was missing the 24-70 so much I turned around and sold the 24L and bought a brand new 24-70! I learned a good lesson through that though. Not to abandon kits that work really well together.

Yeah, I use mine far more than I anticipated I would. I was planning on getting the 16-35 f/2.8 MkII also, but decided not to because the 24-70 already does most of that range and probably does it better.
So I've got a Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 on the way now. the 24-70 will still most likely be mounted on the camera most of the time.

drisley

5th of August 2008 (Tue), 13:16

58mm, ISO400, F2.8 - 1D Mark3

http://images2.fotop.net/albums2/isp/miscellaneous/6K2J2043.jpg

NAisBEST

5th of August 2008 (Tue), 19:33

Another from the 24-70L. Love it. Stupid on-board flash though, didn't have my 580 on my me and was battling exposure.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/onefivealive/IMG_89952.jpg

madhatter04

6th of August 2008 (Wed), 02:07

Beautiful capture, agphotography!

Ahhh... I'm bursting to make this lens mine! :cry:

LOL!! The verbage in some of your posts makes me laugh!!

Anyways, pulling the trigger on this baby tomorrow. Sold my 17-40 and 50 f/1.4 to fund it (picking up a Tokina 12-24 a bit later so no worries about the wide end). Yea!

Spazzmodicus

6th of August 2008 (Wed), 10:05

LOL!! The verbage in some of your posts makes me laugh!!

Anyways, pulling the trigger on this baby tomorrow. Sold my 17-40 and 50 f/1.4 to fund it (picking up a Tokina 12-24 a bit later so no worries about the wide end). Yea!

You won't regret the lens sales to fund the buy of the 24-70. It's an amazing lens

Just got my Tokina 11-16 this morning. Was reading the manual: "...this lens is for cameras with APS-C sized sensors..." ARRRRRRG! I was planning on going FF soon but I guess the worst that will happen is vignetting?

drisley

6th of August 2008 (Wed), 15:02

You won't regret the lens sales to fund the buy of the 24-70. It's an amazing lens

Just got my Tokina 11-16 this morning. Was reading the manual: "...this lens is for cameras with APS-C sized sensors..." ARRRRRRG! I was planning on going FF soon but I guess the worst that will happen is vignetting?
I've been researching the Tokina lens, and there are a few users here who happily use it on 1.3 crop and full frame cameras. I think on full frame, it's usuable from 14-16mm, so it's basically like a prime. I believe Picturecrazy is one of the people here who uses it on both, and he sent me a pic with it on the 1DS MK3 and it looked fantastic!

madhatter04

6th of August 2008 (Wed), 15:16

You won't regret the lens sales to fund the buy of the 24-70. It's an amazing lens

Thanks for the reassurance. :) Just ordered it from BuyDig, my favorite retailer. Should be here Friday or Saturday. Pics to come!

Great pics in this gallery. They are so clear and crisp!

Spazzmodicus

6th of August 2008 (Wed), 15:31

"....and he sent me a pic with it on the 1DS MK3 and it looked fantastic!"

The 1DsMkIII? Well Duh!....I bet if you mounted a Coca-Cola bottle on the 1DsMkIII as a lens...the pics would still look great....heh heh.

Yeah upon opening the box and reading the manual on my 11-16, it said it was for cameras with APS-C size censors. I'm planning on getting a 1DsMkII soon and hoping it will work OK with it.

Spazzmodicus

6th of August 2008 (Wed), 15:34

Thanks for the reassurance. :) Just ordered it from BuyDig, my favorite retailer. Should be here Friday or Saturday. Pics to come!

Great pics in this gallery. They are so clear and crisp!

It will definitely make you a better photographer. You can only become as good as your equipment allows. I've taken pics that I wasn't happy with at all, but I couldn't blame it on the lens. I had to blame it on ME.....the lack of good technique and just not paying attention to shutter speed and aperture settings at the time.

Incorrect aperture settings can also take the crispness out of a shot. (mostly by over-exposure)

drisley

6th of August 2008 (Wed), 17:08

The 1DsMkIII? Well Duh!....I bet if you mounted a Coca-Cola bottle on the 1DsMkIII as a lens...the pics would still look great....heh heh.
.
:lol::lol:

Seriously though, the 1DS MKIII will show any flaws in a lens, I think it's a good test.... if your lens can make it "there" it can make it anywhere :)

One thing about some of these super sharp non-L lenses... while they are technically "sharp", I often find the images don't have the same "character" that some lenses like the 24-70L produce. I don't know if it's my imagination, like a placebo effect, but something seems to be missing.

I looked at dozens of pictures from the tokina 11-16 ( I am considering buying one), and they show detail out the ying yang. But, they often look a little "flat" for lack of a better word... same with the 17-55 lens. Maybe a side by side double blind comparison would eliminate that.

Radiohead369, I LOVE that coke can picture. So simple but it's really cool!

Paul Tinworth

6th of August 2008 (Wed), 17:12

LOL!! The verbage in some of your posts makes me laugh!!

Seriously, I had to have stitches! :D

Enjoy the lens (you jammy git... grr). ;)

Mani-aX

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 09:43

before - straight from camera

@70mm - f/2.8 - 100iso

http://miagrill.no-ip.com/Mani-aX/CanonDigital/before.jpg

after - lightroom / landscape sharpen and auto tone.

http://miagrill.no-ip.com/Mani-aX/CanonDigital/after.jpg

PaulGallagher

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 10:16

Looks good, maybe a crop for a better comp and straighten the horizon and its a keeper

elysium

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 11:21

Personally, I dont like the auto tone feature in Lightroom that much. Sometimes the PP just feels overdone.

Mani-aX

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 12:20

Personally, I dont like the auto tone feature in Lightroom that much. Sometimes the PP just feels overdone.

i agree, 95% of the time it does more damage than good. but for this shot i rolled the dice, and it really brought the color and lighting back to life.

x2x3x4x5x

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 15:32

Mani-aX

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 15:39

350D_Noob

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 16:00

AUTO looks horrible in Lightroom. I just don't see it being used that much.

alt4852

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 17:03

I tend to think "over done" or "too much pp" is a good thing.

Once people tend to get workflows down, they develop a style unique to themselves. If everyone post produced to proper "true to life" color, most photos would be boring and uneventful. While the human eye sees color and detail far better than a camera, the eye can't add color and saturation where it isn't. That's the beauty of pp. We can make ugly white skies blue. We can make brown grass green. We can make beauty in something that lacks it.

As long as any pp has any sort of photo-realism, it's game in my books.

correcting exposure, tweaking contrast, and bumping saturation can all make a picture look better. over sharpening, the all-too-common overzealous HDRing, and abuse of lightroom's fill light in my opinion don't represent a style.. it's just poor processing technique.

anyone can load up photoshop, add +30 hue saturation, go nuts with the sharpening tool, and use photomatix to merge three bracketed pictures. the skill comes in balancing each technique into creating a pleasant image that doesn't scream manipulated. i think it'd be a stretch to claim that an interesting picture requires punchy colors and extreme detail. some of the best photographs ever taken are simple black and white, marginally focused subjects.. but hold their claim to greatness for their composition, tone, and capture of emotion. long story short, i think the idea of "too much processing" and "overdone" images is a valid concern since many people find an interesting slider or brush in their photo editor, and completely lose sight of moderation.

edit: i just thumbed through your flickr gallery (x2x3x4x5x) and you seem to have struck a good balance between knowing when it's appropriate to utilize certain processing techniques. my criticism isn't with occasional use of photomanipulation, it's a gripe with the increasingly popular trend to apply filters and brushes on pictures that suffer from the distraction of the processing. i think photographers should look at a picture, and figure out what they're trying to bring attention to, what they're trying to say. once that's established, focus on constructively editing to bring that component into center stage. overprocessing in my opinion is when viewers notice your processing before they realize what you're trying to convey through your pictures.

big_apple_ken

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 17:21

I friggin love this lens. It's a tad heavy for most people but I've gotten so used to it works for me. My go-to setup generally is my 5D, 24-70L, RRS flash bracket and 580EXII. Been shooting now officially for about 12 weeks. Here are few photos I shot of my friends with my 24-70L on Sunday:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/2730783274_5d81d206bb.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3246/2730761610_1f5483f9ae.jpg?v=0

echo

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 17:26

24mm at f/10

http://recordproduction.smugmug.com/photos/347071464_pxB2p-XL-1.jpg

I'm not really much of a landscape photog but wished I could be :)

Tareq

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 17:28

24mm at f/10

http://recordproduction.smugmug.com/photos/347071464_pxB2p-XL-1.jpg

I'm not really much of a landscape photog but wished I could be :)

And i wish to be in such a place like this, then i can be a landscape photogrfr easily.

alt4852

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 18:07

And i wish to be in such a place like this, then i can be a landscape photogrfr easily.

in that case you might just have to sell your gear to spazz after all since you'll want medium and large format equipment. ;)

Sharpstat

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 18:44

Allerton gardens Kauai 2007

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6935/lotusflowersa4.jpg

madhatter04

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 19:28

My copy of this lens should be here tomorrow or Saturday. Can't wait! Great shots, everyone!

Tareq

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 20:00

in that case you might just have to sell your gear to spazz after all since you'll want medium and large format equipment. ;)

If i get a medium or large format which i look for then i will never thing to go anywhere, just sleep on my bed dreaming forever :lol:

BrantG

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 21:29

My copy of this lens should be here tomorrow or Saturday. Can't wait! Great shots, everyone!

You are going to really happy imo.

JDubya

7th of August 2008 (Thu), 23:46

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/SpeakerPhreaker/INTERIOR_WEB.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/SpeakerPhreaker/IMG_6343-WEB.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/SpeakerPhreaker/JJ_24-70_WEB.jpg

stevegreen

8th of August 2008 (Fri), 09:33

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/2733363030_d79d10dfd5.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/steve_green/2733363030/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2736164300_95bdfd2580.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/steve_green/2736164300/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/2732464103_62a1ac560a.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/steve_green/2732464103/)

DozerLYP

8th of August 2008 (Fri), 18:47

wow, those are great Steve.

here's one more from today.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n56/dozerlyp/IMG_1165.jpg

Radiohead369

8th of August 2008 (Fri), 20:29

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3238/2745576652_976d3d82bc.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/2745576850_88099d91d1.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3273/2744739813_5f7457bafa.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/2744739083_a43d39ea5f.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3219/2743068794_0b5fc01a17.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3191/2744738665_8a6981a31c.jpg

Radiohead369

8th of August 2008 (Fri), 20:34

Some more. Walk in the park.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2744737603_bac8d4daee.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3144/2745573694_a4f475412b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3184/2745575086_090d1d4de0.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161/2745575508_388c0d0e8f.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/2745576518_8d3961f85d.jpg

I love this lens:p

i_am_hydrogen

8th of August 2008 (Fri), 22:04

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/7705/jacksondepaulbwwd8.jpg

madhatter04

9th of August 2008 (Sat), 03:05

Just got the lens! (well, I was out with a friend so I just opened it and slapped it on my 40D)
My impressions:
1) It's heavy. Yeah, whatever. I find the weight makes it very easy to handhold.
2) Took some shots at f/2.8 at various focal lengths. Glad to see I did NOT receive one of the rumored "bad copies" of this lens! Tack sharp photos even at ISO 1600 (it's midnight here and took this pic in a dimly lit kitchen).
3) The range is VERY pleasant on my 40D. Yeah, the Tokina 12-24 will make a welcome addition when the time comes, but I don't find it a problem at all.

Can't wait to take it around the yard tomorrow!

f/2.8 - ISO 1600 -43mm - 1/100th
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/7944/lenstesthi3.jpg