Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM - The Brick

[ken2000ac]

Rarely used. Contemplating selling it, but it is soooo convenient and versatile while producing good results that I just can't do it. Check my Flickr for higher res versions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ken2000ac/

Older shots:

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Newer shots:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2444/4031284150_6b7bac4374.jpg

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[ken2000ac]

I hope no one minds if I add another post full of shots. Mods, please advise I over-step my bounds.

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[nicksan]

Kenny...my goodness...those are FANTASTIC.

Stop it...you are depressing me. :lol:

[ken2000ac]

Kenny...my goodness...those are FANTASTIC.

Stop it...you are depressing me. :lol:

No YOU stop it - if only I could shoot autumn scenes quite like you have... :)

[maxblack]

What nicksan said. ^^^ Great stuff.

[AKHOO]

Awesome shots Kenny.

[vinunleaded]

wow ken these are gorgeous photos specially the ones of the church

[p360]

Kenny...my goodness...those are FANTASTIC.


No kidding..!! Wow.

[tomhide]

Agree with all the above, great work Ken!

[fi20100]

Wow! Looking at your shots Ken, the lens can't arrive soon enough.

[Tareq]

And that is why i will say it again: EF 24-70mm f2.8L is my favorite zoom lens i have ever own, i am so proud!

Ken, amazing fantastic shots!

[fi20100]

And that is why i will say it again: EF 24-70mm f2.8L is my favorite zoom lens i have ever own, i am so proud!


And you've owned most! ;)

[Tareq]

And you've owned most! ;)

Yes, after long researches in Photography world [gear] i will buy many things with good or high reviews, still i will buy more and more and the collecting train couldn't stop!

[ken2000ac]

Thank you all for the kind words. Much appreciated. :eek:

[liclic]

nice pics Ken, too bad I didn't have this lens when I was in Rome

[Rishka78]

Guys,

Who has own Tamron 28-75? How is it in comparason with 24-70? I have Tammy on my 7D and like it pretty well. I don't know if 24-70 is a significant upgrade but I want it :oops: I don't care about weatherseal. For people that had an experience with both lenses what would you recommend?

Thanks

[airbutchie]

Guys,

Who has own Tamron 28-75? How is it in comparason with 24-70? I have Tammy on my 7D and like it pretty well. I don't know if 24-70 is a significant upgrade but I want it :oops: I don't care about weatherseal. For people that had an experience with both lenses what would you recommend?

Thanks

The Brick has:
- Faster focusing speed
- Quieter focusing
- Better build
- Better focus lock (on subject) in low light condition
- Optically a bit better (even wide open)

That's my quick assessment when I upgraded from the Tammy to "The Brick"... The two real issues, for me, was weight and focus lock... The "focus hunting" on the Tammy was noticable and annoying in low light conditions... Not to mention the noise when the barrel keeps zooming back and forth to focus lock... As with weight, they don't call it "The Brick" for nothing... Hehehehehhe... But you get use to it... Nonetheless, I have no regrets on the upgrade... Well worth the $$$ in my book...

- airbutchie

[martin2day]

I don't know if 24-70 is a significant upgrade
Try one first.

[F4 Cyborg]

You will like every thing about the brick except, the weight.
Many of use depend on "The Brick" to pay bills. It does that very well, so long as - "The Brick" holder knows how to use it.

[martin2day]

Like I said, try one first. Don't try a sharp lens at the same time :)

[nicksan]

nice pics Ken, too bad I didn't have this lens when I was in Rome

Too bad I only had a 2MP Nikon CoolPix P&S when I went to Rome back in 2000!:lol:

[F4 Cyborg]

LMAO if you can't make the Brick sharp, put down your camera and take up Knitting.

[Tareq]

Too bad I only had a 2MP Nikon CoolPix P&S when I went to Rome back in 2000!:lol:

I went to Switzerland and Paris in November 2006, that time i was using 350D and 30D, i feel sad that i didn't go there with at least 5D ;) many High ISO there i was needed.

[Tomminator855]

here a test shot from my 24-70mm on 5DII today .. check it out no photoshop done to it ..


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2503/4135345960_beac1288ff_b.jpg

[fi20100]

Yey! I just picked up my 24-70L and it feels awesome on the 5D! The zoom ring is pretty stiff (I guess it will loosen up with use) and the AF is super fast and quiet. Just had to take a pic of something in the crappy light (or lack thereof) at home. Our “dog” Manfred had to do as a model. The carnage in the background is from the packing up the lens! :D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2664/4135893968_33e9994c51_o.jpg

[fi20100]

Oh snap!
I became a thread killer :oops:

[trumpet_guy]

Nice pic of the toy dog.
It demonstrates the nice bokeh and good handling of back lighting this lens exhibits.

[tomhide]

Stefan, I thought you would of had this lens already. :)
Congrats, you'll love it! It just goes so nicely with 5D as well.

[fi20100]

Thanks :) It's been quite dark and raining a lot here lately, so I haven't had an opportunity to to really play with it yet (hence the silly toy dog pic).

Anyway, really liking the feel of it and goes super nicely with the 5D!

[Mast3rChi3f]

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[Tareq]

WOW, nice shots! I prefer #2 then #3.

[ken2000ac]

^^ Same for me. Those are incredible Mast3rChi3f.

[Mast3rChi3f]

Thanks! Just testing the 5D2 with 24-70, i want better than that, I'm not complete satisfied with the results.

[Tareq]

Thanks! Just testing the 5D2 with 24-70, i want better than that, I'm not complete satisfied with the results.

Get D3X or D3S then, or maybe 1DsIII can give better results over 5DII?
I dunno what better you want more than these!

[Mast3rChi3f]

I mean better composition, exposure, etc, not image quality.
I love the quality from this set (5D2+24-70). :D

[Tareq]

I mean better composition, exposure, etc, not image quality.
I love the quality from this set (5D2+24-70). :D

Ah ok, those shots you posted are good enough in composition, exposure, contrast,...etc, you are doing a good job!

[Mast3rChi3f]

Thanks Tareq.
These are from the same day.

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[Tareq]

Nice shots, wish the sea next to my house is that beautiful for composition and more!

[StudiooneLA]

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[ieatstars]

A few of my friends skiing at Mammoth yesterday. The lighting was disastrous so I had to edit these way more than normal/than I'd like, so I'm hoping for a nice, sunny day next weekend. We got an amazing powder today -- 16"+ of fresh snow! :D Incredible. Happy Thanksgiving!

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[uljens]

@ f4
http://upphoto.lv/new/images/portraits_005.jpg

@f2.8
http://upphoto.lv/new/images/portraits_007.jpg

[marco_30D]

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[TampaFoto]

The brick VS Toxic waste water Site! The brick even made it look good. What can the brick do for you.

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[francisLM]

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[S.Horton]

@Ken2000 -- Nice eye, good light, interesting results -- Sure, the lens helps, but if you'd shot those with a non-L they'd still be great captures! (In short, you made the lens look great)

[lz7j]

http://www.nikkophotography.com/rfd/random1.jpg

[ken2000ac]

@Ken2000 -- Nice eye, good light, interesting results -- Sure, the lens helps, but if you'd shot those with a non-L they'd still be great captures! (In short, you made the lens look great)

Many thanks, I really appreciate it. :)

[xMClass]

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[djharmonix]

My friend Jade:

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[Jeff81]

Newport Pier

[Mast3rChi3f]

I love this lens, even at f/2.8 is sharp.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5322/img0557ar.jpg

[The Moose]

Soon, soon, soon, soon, soon. Hopefully before the turn of the year! I've been looking forward to this lens for so long. It'll compliment my 1D2 and 70-200/2.8 nicely I think.

Just bought a used one! Sooner than I expected :) Can't wait to pick it up.

[ALMAPHOTO]

Another one.
http://h.imagehost.org/0760/356P2658_kopiaLast.jpg

[Feudal1]

Some shots from the December 5 snowstorm in our area, all taken with the 24-70mm:

http://cwhite.smugmug.com/Weather/Snow-December-5-2009/MG2042-1024/733598095_kY2sa-XL.jpg

http://cwhite.smugmug.com/Weather/Snow-December-5-2009/MG2007-1024/733629236_tuhW2-XL.jpg

http://cwhite.smugmug.com/Weather/Snow-December-5-2009/MG1992/733642298_pzyeB-XL.jpg

http://cwhite.smugmug.com/Weather/Snow-December-5-2009/MG2054-1024/733629318_RGvV8-XL.jpg

[DozerLYP]

Here's something I took with the brick last week in Roaten Island, Honduras.

http://dozerlyp.zenfolio.com/img/v8/p987261651-5.jpg

[Tareq]

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8804/1ds39997.jpg

Eastern area of UAE [near Khor Fakkan or Fujaurah]

[gnnbtrn]

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Eastern area of UAE [near Khor Fakkan or Fujaurah]

Beautiful colors! your picture makes me want to travel!

[Tareq]

Beautiful colors! your picture makes me want to travel!

Thank you very much!
Travel is great, i do travel once every year for photography.

[TampaFoto]

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Eastern area of UAE [near Khor Fakkan or Fujaurah]

God blessed you to give you this shot I hope you know that. Great Great Great shot. I want to copy it and sell copies.

[Tareq]

God blessed you to give you this shot I hope you know that. Great Great Great shot. I want to copy it and sell copies.

This shot, i forced my family [wife and children] to woke up very early about 2 hours before the sunrise, so i took them to the eastern area in UAE where the sun is rising, so i arrived there just few minutes before the sunrise, and good i remember the location so didn't waste time to drive around, i didn't wait and took my tripod and camera and left my family sleeping in the car, it was about 15-20 minutes only to take some shots before the sun coming out, and i am very happy i did have that shot in UAE where we always saying nothing interesting here, but it was a nice weather because in UAE between November and March the best weather we can have.
I wish if i can copy this shot and sell copies, if i live there where you live i can start to sell my works.

[FuturamaJSP]

@ Dozen & Tareq: wow awesome landscape shots!!!

hehe my very first serious portrait:
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/SpammersHeaven/People/IMG_6817cc.jpg

[neruda]

first attempt using this lens

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9016/img5894w.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/img5894w.jpg/)

[hiddengamer7]

We got some snow here in Manhattan, KS and I took the brick out for some fun.

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[Tawcan]

Was playing around with a 5DII the other night at a work shop...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2623/4173171511_e576a0a5f3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tawcan/4173171511/)

[xMClass]

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[The Moose]

Ok, so this lens is never coming off. It's amazing. It has revived my photography... It's making me want to get up and shoot anything and everything again!

[CheshireCat]

70mm, f/5.0, 1/80 sec handheld, [auto]focus on logo, no sharpening

[S7000]

Haven't contributed much here for a while...2 from the other day on my road trip.

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[tonylong]

This is about a half crop taken with the 5D of the top of Multnomah Falls in the Columbia River Gorge in Oregon:

http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/120180919/original.jpg

[Markitos]

Ah, the lens I just can't love, despite the fantastic results I get from it every time....

http://beltie.smugmug.com/Other/Recent-Photos/Annabel-4718/734467035_s5dkU-O.jpg

[Markitos]

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[p360]

Ah, the lens I just can't love, despite the fantastic results I get from it every time....


I am curious.., why..?

[Markitos]

I am curious.., why..?

Why I don't love it? I dunno.... why are you attracted to some people and not others? It's a technically excellent lens, and has paid for itself many times over, but I just can't bring myself to love it... not that I'd ever get rid of it or anything...

I can tell you it's not because of anything rational. :)

[MigsVuitton]

http://www.5byseven.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Blog-I6.jpg

View the rest here (http://www.5byseven.com/blog/2009/12/11/family-portraits-jordan-and-family/)

[Mast3rChi3f]

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[fi20100]

Why I don't love it? I dunno.... why are you attracted to some people and not others? It's a technically excellent lens, and has paid for itself many times over, but I just can't bring myself to love it... not that I'd ever get rid of it or anything...

I can tell you it's not because of anything rational. :)

I haven't had this lens for very long, but the feeling I've got is this is a a real workhorse lens, and it covers an important and useful focal length. However, it's perhaps not a very fun lens, it doesn't inspire you like a fast prime does.

[neruda]

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8393/img6392n.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/img6392n.jpg/)

[Markitos]

I haven't had this lens for very long, but the feeling I've got is this is a a real workhorse lens, and it covers an important and useful focal length. However, it's perhaps not a very fun lens, it doesn't inspire you like a fast prime does.

Yep, that's pretty much it. :)

[fi20100]

I went to the church, where I will be shooting a wedding next month, to take some test shots. There's really a great mood in the place, but it was really quite dark. Shooting at ISO 1600, f/2.8 I was shooting at very low shutter speeds. I'm so glad I went with the 24-70L instead of the 24-105L... f/4 would never have worked.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4178569889_80c6b4ebef_o.jpg

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[DEfinitivecars]

Alright, well I am ordering this lens as soon as B&H's ordering is open. Took this pic of my new neice with my sisters lens and I fell in love. With both little Coco and the lens!

Anything I should know before I buy? Is there a better place to order from?

Thanks D

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[fi20100]

That's a great photo :)

B&H should be a good place to get it from. Wish I could have ordered it from there...

[Marloon]

Alright, well I am ordering this lens as soon as B&H's ordering is open. Took this pic of my new neice with my sisters lens and I fell in love. With both little Coco and the lens!

Anything I should know before I buy? Is there a better place to order from?

Thanks D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2520/4172940893_ba3f7d5e63_b.jpg

get the 35L instead. LOL

[DEfinitivecars]

get the 35L instead. LOL

???

[CheshireCat]

"Barcelona, plaza and remix"
EF 24-70L @35mm f/10

[Marloon]

???

im serious! get the 35L! though you will lack the versatility, you'll appreciate the 2 stop difference, light weight, sharpness and DOF. the 35L will make you a firm believer of primes. if you are staying with the 1.6x bodies, consider the 30mm f1.4

[Tareq]

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6826/1ds34121.jpg
1/60
f2.8
ISO3200


http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5632/1ds34098.jpg
1/60
f2.8
ISO1600

[DEfinitivecars]

I already have a 50mm f1.4 prime lens. So I am thinking this will be a nice addition. Right? Also has anyone dealt with the extended accidental damage warranty from B&H? Im thinking of getting the 3 year on the lens.

D

[Marloon]

I already have a 50mm f1.4 prime lens. So I am thinking this will be a nice addition. Right? Also has anyone dealt with the extended accidental damage warranty from B&H? Im thinking of getting the 3 year on the lens.

D
since you own a 40d, have you considered the 17-55?

[DEfinitivecars]

I have not. As I said, I used my sisters 24-70 and fell in love. Can you tell me why I would want to look at that over this lens? And why having the 40D makes a difference?

This would be very helpful. At this point I really like the images this lens takes. I also plan to get a 5DmII within a few years...

D

[Marloon]

I have not. As I said, I used my sisters 24-70 and fell in love. Can you tell me why I would want to look at that over this lens? And why having the 40D makes a difference?

This would be very helpful. At this point I really like the images this lens takes. I also plan to get a 5DmII within a few years...

D

oh okay....

you camera is a crop camera. it takes both EF-s and EF based lenses. EF-S based lenses are designed for crop bodies, whereas EF lenses can fit both crop and ff bodies. When you take a lens like the 24-70 f2.8L, you have to multiply the focal length (FL) by it's crop factor, in this case, 1.6x. so what happens is that your focal length becomes 38 - 112mm. The 17-55 f2.8 I.S. has a focal length of 27.2 - 88mm. You have a wider Field of View (FOV) with the 17-55 as oppose to the 24-70 allowing more flexibility if you ever shoot groups, or landscape. in addition, the 17-55 has a lighter build quality due to its plastic non-L construction. The 17-55 also has a 3-stop IS system allowing for easier hand holding in low-light condition. Dont be fooled by the fact that it's a non-L, it produces sharp images frame after frame, some would say that it's sharper than the 24-70 and i truly believe that. there are less QC problems with focus shifting with the 17-55.

To be unbiased, there are downfalls with the 17-55. it is well known as a vaccuum as it tends to allow dust in because the lens is not weather sealed, unlike the 24-70. It is also an EF-S lens meaning that it cannot be used on full frame cameras, so if you upgrade to a full frame camera later in the future, you would have to sell this lens with minimal to no loss.

oh i'll just summarize:

17-55
-35mm equiv: 27.2-88
-3 stop IS system
-Lighter build
-produces sharp images wide open
-EF-S only lens, restricting it to crop bodies like the XXD, 7D, and rebel cameras

24-70
-35mm equiv: 38-112
-no is system
-heavier in comparison but build quality is excellent as its weather sealed
-produces sharp image when stopped down
-EF based lens as it's theoretically "upgrade proof"

the 17-55 is a highly regarded lens on this forum, and it would be recommeded by most users even by some 24-70L owners like me. im honestly waiting for a mark II of this lens. i hate using mine.

[DEfinitivecars]

Wow Thanks for all the info... I thought I had my mind made up. I dont know what to do now. Cause I do want to go full frame soon.

D

[xMClass]

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[vipergts831]

Hey guys im thinking of upgrading this to this lense from my tammy. What do you think? Should i put the BH 3 year insurance on it? Or will be i alright since it has pro build?

[GMCPhotographics]

You would have to be pretty clumsy to mash one of these lenses...in fact any L lens for that matter.

[vipergts831]

You would have to be pretty clumsy to mash one of these lenses...in fact any L lens for that matter.

safe to say insurance not needed. Even if it rains or snows on this lense?

[whoodie]

...Even if it rains...

I was in the rain yesterday, not a single problem to report.

[Tareq]

It is a weather sealed lens anyway ;-)

[hiddengamer7]

I was in the snow for several hours and honestly, once you feel this lens, you wont have any doubts. When we say it's solid, we mean it. Hence the nickname "the brick".

[DEfinitivecars]

That's it. I'm ordering it today.

[hiddengamer7]

You will enjoy it, the build quality is miles above the 17-55.

[vipergts831]

I was in the snow for several hours and honestly, once you feel this lens, you wont have any doubts. When we say it's solid, we mean it. Hence the nickname "the brick".


Thanks a lot! Im upgrading to the 7D on tuesday and wanted to couple it with a great weather sealed lense. Since i love the range of the tammy this would be a logical choice. Thanks a lot guys dont see the need to insure it like i had with the tammy!

[whoodie]

...Im upgrading to the 7D on tuesday and wanted to couple it with a great weather sealed lens...

I just came from a 50D and paired my new 7D to this lens. You will enjoy it!

[vipergts831]

I just came from a 50D and paired my new 7D to this lens. You will enjoy it!

Thanks a lot whoodie! Ive been saving since september. I got a lot of heat in this forum for wanting to upgrade the tammy to this. Everyone said it isnt going to expand your shooting creativity. Yet what they didn't understand is that i wanted a sharp, rugged lense which would be up to par with the 7D's build. I love the focal range and will sell off the tammy to help bring down the cost.

[whoodie]

Thanks a lot whoodie! Ive been saving since september. I got a lot of heat in this forum for wanting to upgrade the tammy to this. Everyone said it isnt going to expand your shooting creativity. Yet what they didn't understand is that i wanted a sharp, rugged lense which would be up to par with the 7D's build. I love the focal range and will sell off the tammy to help bring down the cost.

I debated between this and the 24-105 for a long time. I decided that the 2.8 would allow me to use a faster shutter speed and that I did not need IS. The only other problems I had were the focal length (24-105 suits me better) and the IQ. Luckily I tried out the 24-105 for a day. The IQ out of that lens did not seem worth the money, in my opinion. Luckily I have a 70-200 to pickup where the 24-70 leaves off, so that settled the focal length debate. Overall I am extremely happy with my purchase, now my only problem is that I want f/2.8 on my 70-200 :)

[vipergts831]

I debated between this and the 24-105 for a long time. I decided that the 2.8 would allow me to use a faster shutter speed and that I did not need IS. The only other problems I had were the focal length (24-105 suits me better) and the IQ. Luckily I tried out the 24-105 for a day. The IQ out of that lens did not seem worth the money, in my opinion. Luckily I have a 70-200 to pickup where the 24-70 leaves off, so that settled the focal length debate. Overall I am extremely happy with my purchase, now my only problem is that I want f/2.8 on my 70-200 :)

Yup i was in the same boat as you. Looking back and forth between the 24-105 and the 24-70. I settled on the 24-70 because i have the tamron 28-75 2.8 and love that focal range. Like you i know i will want a 70-200 2.8. i think once you taste 2.8 and higher you cant go back!

[runninmann]

I have not. As I said, I used my sisters 24-70 and fell in love. Can you tell me why I would want to look at that over this lens? And why having the 40D makes a difference?

This would be very helpful. At this point I really like the images this lens takes. I also plan to get a 5DmII within a few years...

D

oh okay....

you camera is a crop camera. it takes both EF-s and EF based lenses. EF-S based lenses are designed for crop bodies, whereas EF lenses can fit both crop and ff bodies. When you take a lens like the 24-70 f2.8L, you have to multiply the focal length (FL) by it's crop factor, in this case, 1.6x. so what happens is that your focal length becomes 38 - 112mm. The 17-55 f2.8 I.S. has a focal length of 27.2 - 88mm. You have a wider Field of View (FOV) with the 17-55 as oppose to the 24-70 allowing more flexibility if you ever shoot groups, or landscape. in addition, the 17-55 has a lighter build quality due to its plastic non-L construction. The 17-55 also has a 3-stop IS system allowing for easier hand holding in low-light condition. Dont be fooled by the fact that it's a non-L, it produces sharp images frame after frame, some would say that it's sharper than the 24-70 and i truly believe that. there are less QC problems with focus shifting with the 17-55.

To be unbiased, there are downfalls with the 17-55. it is well known as a vaccuum as it tends to allow dust in because the lens is not weather sealed, unlike the 24-70. It is also an EF-S lens meaning that it cannot be used on full frame cameras, so if you upgrade to a full frame camera later in the future, you would have to sell this lens with minimal to no loss.

oh i'll just summarize:

17-55
-35mm equiv: 27.2-88
-3 stop IS system
-Lighter build
-produces sharp images wide open
-EF-S only lens, restricting it to crop bodies like the XXD, 7D, and rebel cameras

24-70
-35mm equiv: 38-112
-no is system
-heavier in comparison but build quality is excellent as its weather sealed
-produces sharp image when stopped down
-EF based lens as it's theoretically "upgrade proof"

the 17-55 is a highly regarded lens on this forum, and it would be recommeded by most users even by some 24-70L owners like me. im honestly waiting for a mark II of this lens. i hate using mine.I have a 20D and a 40D and I find the 24-70 is just fine as my "walkaround" lens. If you find that it is wide enough for you, there is no need to consider the 17-55 if you prefer the 24-70.

The 24-70 does not "become 38-112" and the 17-55 does not have "a focal length of 27.2-88mm".

I believe one should choose his or her lenses based on his or her uses, needs and preferences, not those of any other individual's uses, needs and preferences.

If you like the 24-70, if the 24-70 suits your shooting style, if you "fell in love" with it, I'd advise you to get it.

[Marloon]

I have a 20D and a 40D and I find the 24-70 is just fine as my "walkaround" lens. If you find that it is wide enough for you, there is no need to consider the 17-55 if you prefer the 24-70.

The 24-70 does not "become 38-112" and the 17-55 does not have "a focal length of 27.2-88mm".

I believe one should choose his or her lenses based on his or her uses, needs and preferences, not those of any other individual's uses, needs and preferences.

If you like the 24-70, if the 24-70 suits your shooting style, if you "fell in love" with it, I'd advise you to get it.

i believe in giving people information about their choices so they can make an informed decision about what they buy.

did you want me to revise what i said about the FL? The 24-70 when mounted on a crop has a 35mm equivalent focal length of 38-112, whereas, the 17-55 has a 35mm equivalent of 27.2-88mm on a crop body. Is that better?

[runninmann]

i believe in giving people information about their choices so they can make an informed decision about what they buy.

did you want me to revise what i said about the FL? The 24-70 when mounted on a crop has a 35mm equivalent focal length of 38-112, whereas, the 17-55 has a 35mm equivalent of 27.2-88mm on a crop body. Is that better?The focal length doesn't change, regardless of how you phrase it. The field of view is narrower due to the smaller sensor.

[BluewookieJim]

In a cruel twist of fate, the first shots with my new 24-70 are of my current workhorse lens.

Now for the hard part, waiting another 1 to possibly 4 weeks for my 5dMkii to arrive.


http://photos.kodanja.net/img/v1/p852413517-4.jpg

[vipergts831]

In a cruel twist of fate, the first shots with my new 24-70 are of my current workhorse lens.

Now for the hard part, waiting another 1 to possibly 4 weeks for my 5dMkii to arrive.


http://photos.kodanja.net/img/v1/p852413517-4.jpg

That will be me in two days with my 28-75

[Marloon]

The focal length doesn't change, regardless of how you phrase it. The field of view is narrower due to the smaller sensor.

its true that it doesnt change, but we use the comparative focal length numbers to represent how much wider the 17-55 is compared to the 24-70.

then we might as well throw out focal lengths and just substitute the numbers with "wide" "wider" and "widest", and "long, longer, and longest..."

[Marloon]

http://photos.kodanja.net/img/v1/p852413517-4.jpg

nice shot of the 17-50. congrats to the upgrade to the 5dii.

[egordon99]

its true that it doesnt change, but we use the comparative focal length numbers to represent how much wider the 17-55 is compared to the 24-70.

then we might as well throw out focal lengths and just substitute the numbers with "wide" "wider" and "widest", and "long, longer, and longest..."

As long as you're comparing focal lengths on the SAME format, than you just need to compare 24mm vs. 17mm. No need to "convert" anything ;)

[BluewookieJim]

nice shot of the 17-50. congrats to the upgrade to the 5dii.

Thanks. Still questioning whether I have more disposable income than viable talent, but I am looking forward to going full frame.

The 17-50 served me well and will be going to a good friend in the next week or so. My wide shooting will be 5dMkii + 24-70 going forward.

[runninmann]

its true that it doesnt change, but we use the comparative focal length numbers to represent how much wider the 17-55 is compared to the 24-70.

then we might as well throw out focal lengths and just substitute the numbers with "wide" "wider" and "widest", and "long, longer, and longest..."Or, we could just talk about "how much wider the 17-55 is compared to the 24-70".

[FuturamaJSP]

what the?? why the dusty 17-55 vs 24-70L shenanigan in here??? This thread is all about the brick not the dust collector :p ;)

[TampaFoto]

The brick at work in the Florida swamp.

1. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2633/4184290244_91f928b160_b.jpg

2. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2739/4184289068_9b4318a522_b.jpg

3. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2512/4183527785_857c5ea681_b.jpg

4. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2668/4183528173_8e25df6afc_b.jpg

5. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2645/4184290004_7e3ce4403e_b.jpg

[fi20100]

what the?? why the dusty 17-55 vs 24-70L shenanigan in here??? This thread is all about the brick not the dust collector :p ;)

+1 :)

[Marloon]

what the?? why the dusty 17-55 vs 24-70L shenanigan in here??? This thread is all about the brick not the dust collector :p ;)

i guess i miss the lens too much... i realized that the I.S. system is so crucial for me... maybe ill just sell this for a 24L. its too dark for my viewfinder anyways

[Mast3rChi3f]

Sunrise from today.

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7329/img0886red.jpg

[SMP_Homer]

^^^
You have access to better sunrise location than I do!

[maxblack]

The brick at work in the Florida swamp.

Nice shots TampaFoto. Were you using fill flash?

[DEfinitivecars]

Wow Masterchief, that is an amazing snap!!! Wish we had sky's like that here...

D

[BluewookieJim]

Sunrise from today.



Yeah, that's pretty awesome. It's almost enough to motivate me to get up early one of these days to catch a sunrise.

[TampaFoto]

Nice shots TampaFoto. Were you using fill flash?


Yes I used fill flash from an off camera 580exII no modifer on the color shot then used color gels on the sepia shot. Might post so of those There kinda kool looking if anyone wants to see.

[xMClass]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2609/4185815577_ea788f4566.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2677/4185814147_cd35b2bc59.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2519/4186573192_39bca16c13.jpg

[agphotography]

Here's some recent shots I've done with the 24-70L

on 5D2
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2754/4174854281_6a050a5a0a_o.jpg

on 40D
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2749/4172510393_369053467c_o.jpg

on 5D2
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2783/4110449905_c406c87b91_o.jpg

on 5D2 - Strong processing, but looks really cool blown up. Currently the wallpaper on my computer :)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2623/4111212920_5969301b90_o.jpg

[Tawcan]

Couple from this weekend

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2523/4186029456_d70b52685d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tawcan/4186029456/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2507/4185259851_e6f5cb5bf6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tawcan/4185259851/)

[Radiohead369]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2530/4191676178_df88b5bff0_b.jpg

[Rhilton4u]

That L.A. shot is amazing! Here's a D.C. one from a couple of weeks ago on a 5D classic using ISO 200. Focal length is 35mm. Aperture was set to F/14 and shutter speed was at 10 seconds. Some color correction was applied through photoshop to get rid of the orange sodium lighting.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2542/4115006422_49611ef70c_b.jpg

[agphotography]

Thanks! I was pleasantly surprised the 40D was able to pull so much detail, it is processed a little bit, but it was just 1 RAW file.

[neruda]

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2485/img6209a.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/i/img6209a.jpg/)

[Mast3rChi3f]

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1305/img0980red00.jpg

[keith breazeal]

I gave my son my 40D and a couple of lenses for his birthday. Now I'm trying to explain some of the basics of the art. Although he is a fast learner, depth of field and focal length is a bit more challenging. We took several photos with evrything from 10mm to 300mm. He really liked my 24-70(no can steal from me!) for the ability to capture subjects without too much distortion or compression from long or short focal lengths. The thing he liked about 300mm was the bokeh, but not getting enough with the 24-70 in the image below. So now we are into the dark side of creating the effect of the 300's bokeh with gassian blur. The before and after shots of his car are the result of a couple of hours at the "blackboard". I'm hiding the 24-70 while he's home from college. :)

before:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa5/KBVP/SubaruinVolcano.jpg

after:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa5/KBVP/SubaruinVolcanoprocessed.jpg

[DEfinitivecars]

Alright I am patiently waiting... Well trying to.

UPS - Scheduled Delivery Date: 12/17/2009

[airbutchie]

^ The waiting is always the difficult part... Wishing you a speedy delivery, Definitivecars!!!

- airbutchie :)

PS. Welcome to the "Brick" club!!!

[vipergts831]

Just got mine two days ago with the 7D. Really excited and liking the results so far.

[Tareq]

Snapshots from LA

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/118/ds33477.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4265/ds33478.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3043/ds33479.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7016/ds33462.jpg

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/9643/ds33506.jpg

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8386/ds33509.jpg

[xMClass]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2502/4193960370_c9fd3ffe91.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2684/4193960558_7dca28a7da.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2577/4194089458_b5c27ef0dc.jpg

[BKGInc]

Alright I am patiently waiting... Well trying to.

UPS - Scheduled Delivery Date: 12/17/2009

Mine is:
UPS - Scheduled Delivery Date: 12/18/2009
I'm not so patiently waiting.

[whoodie]

Mine is:
UPS - Scheduled Delivery Date: 12/18/2009
I'm not so patiently waiting.

It's worth it! Hey at least you'll have it for the weekend, not to mention x-mas :)

[Tareq]

Alright I am patiently waiting... Well trying to.

UPS - Scheduled Delivery Date: 12/17/2009

Mine is:
UPS - Scheduled Delivery Date: 12/18/2009
I'm not so patiently waiting.

Congrats in advance!!!

[Apollo11]

I've had the 24-70 for a couple years----phenomenal lens, and gets the most use of any in my bag.

[Apollo11]

Another:

[DEfinitivecars]

Alright here are a few of the first shots I took with it. Really just messing around with it. They are all out of the camera.

http://www.definitivecars.com/posted_pics/brick/brick1.jpg


http://www.definitivecars.com/posted_pics/brick/brick2.jpg


http://www.definitivecars.com/posted_pics/brick/brick3.jpg


http://www.definitivecars.com/posted_pics/brick/brick4.jpg


http://www.definitivecars.com/posted_pics/brick/brick5.jpg

Not great so far, but cant wait to use it more this weekend!

D

[grainoflight]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2742/4190559517_594b5db396_o.jpg

my gf while we were having coffee.

[BKGInc]

The 24-70 came today!! OMG, I forgot how heavy this thing is. Now I really remember why it's called "The Brick". I had one a couple years ago and I remember lugging this thing all over Las Vegas but I guess I was just used to it. Anyway I already love this lens. Here is one of the first shots right out of the camera............
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g165/BKGInc/IMG_7020.jpg

[DEfinitivecars]

Alright, so here are a few more from today. My wife went to a horse ranch with our son and a bunch of her friends. She shot some sweet pics of the horses! Heres also one of my kid playing with his Hanukkah gift from tonight.

All are unprocessed!

http://www.definitivecars.com/posted_pics/brick/horse2.jpg


http://www.definitivecars.com/posted_pics/brick/horse1.jpg


http://www.definitivecars.com/posted_pics/brick/brick6.jpg

[angryhampster]

@63mm f/2.8
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/angryhampster/2009/weddings/120109-eshoot12small.jpg

[TheToad]

Nothing really special about this image, it just shows this lenses sharpness at wide apertures and nice, rich color rendition.

f3.5 * iso 200 * 1/100 * 63mm