Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM - The Brick [Archive] - Page 9

Spazzmodicus

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 08:14

Wow, how cool! What a little doll she is! I hope she's not self-conscious about it and sees it as a way to be totally unique.

She's cool about until people start flipping out while looking straight into her eyeballs. Then she gets a little gun-shy. When she was born the doctors said her eye colors would change....but she's almost 7 and they're still the same.

King of Canada

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 08:18

She's cool about until people start flipping out while looking straight into her eyeballs. Then she gets a little gun-shy. When she was born the doctors said her eye colors would change....but she's almost 7 and they're still the same.

Did you know that Kate Bosworth also has a brown and a blue eye? I think it's beautiful and very special.

http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2008/03/27/previews/Kate%20Bosworth-JTM-034436.jpg

Phil Light

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 09:17

USM?

The acronymical part of my brain is failing me at the moment....

In this case it means Unsharp Mask, probably in Photoshop. It can also refer to the Ultra-Sonic Motor in Canon Lenses. There are lots more here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=261117).

Spazzmodicus

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 09:46

.....There are lot's more here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=261117).

Now there's a bookmark worth saving if ever there was one.

Yeah..the only USM I knew about was the focus motor of USM lenses.

gospastic

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 17:27

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/2599043812_b6da23704f_b.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/andrewgospastic/2599043812/sizes/l/)

David S

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 20:21

^^^Fabulous capture! Nice blue sky.

Spazzmodicus

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 23:00

I just love this lens to pieces. It would be higly impractical to try and shoot something like a car show with prime lenses. One second you need wide-angle...the next you need telephoto. This lens does it all....and does it good.

http://www.all-event-photos.com/img/v2/p175694380-4.jpg

http://www.all-event-photos.com/img/v0/p290724381-4.jpg

http://www.all-event-photos.com/img/v2/p276848360-4.jpg

Walkingmanblues

22nd of June 2008 (Sun), 03:14

This morning. "Macro" shots. Handheld.

Blackvault

22nd of June 2008 (Sun), 10:52

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/brian.stuart/IMG_0904.jpg

Blackvault

Spazzmodicus

22nd of June 2008 (Sun), 11:35

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/brian.stuart/IMG_0904.jpg

Blackvault

I really really like this photo. There's only one thing wrong with it....his camo trousers are way too new, clean and spiffy looking.....heh heh. Anybody that's worn them enough(in service) will spot that right off the bat.:lol:

Double Negative

22nd of June 2008 (Sun), 14:25

I really really like this photo. There's only one thing wrong with it....his camo trousers are way too new, clean and spiffy looking.....heh heh. Anybody that's worn them enough(in service) will spot that right off the bat.:lol:

EVERYTHING is too new and shiny. :p

But I love the shot.

Cap0ne

22nd of June 2008 (Sun), 16:53

:) .

kito109654

22nd of June 2008 (Sun), 16:55

That is a great shot! The expression is priceless.

CartoonBear

22nd of June 2008 (Sun), 17:05

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/cartoonbear86/IMG_6373print.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/cartoonbear86/IMG_5233print.jpg

Blackvault

22nd of June 2008 (Sun), 17:40

Chernobyl style waste ground.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/brian.stuart/LM3S4448_49_50_51_52_53_54_tonemapped-Acid.jpg

Moschero

22nd of June 2008 (Sun), 18:51

This is my third time here but let me tell ya'll this lens gets it done when the picture just kind of presents itself to ya

http://www.pbase.com/moschero/image/99020925.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/moschero/image/99020909.jpg

S7000

23rd of June 2008 (Mon), 03:54

One of my little kid brother...

http://www.members.optushome.com.au/prischlfam/_MG_3120copy.jpg

David S

23rd of June 2008 (Mon), 04:01

^^^Nice and sharp!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/2595356810_827f3b1b37_o.jpg

Petco Park:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/2601533769_5cf87df786_o.jpg

JDubya

24th of June 2008 (Tue), 16:41

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/SpeakerPhreaker/sell/BESLAR.jpg

orisky

26th of June 2008 (Thu), 01:47

5D + 24-70

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/319653807_Rt3hc-XL.jpg

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/319653914_AzuAa-XL.jpg

Mediation

26th of June 2008 (Thu), 01:57

^ nice work :)

ALaS

26th of June 2008 (Thu), 02:48

5D + 24-70

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/319653807_Rt3hc-XL.jpg

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/319653914_AzuAa-XL.jpg

OMG more please! Beautiful compositions and model!

zero99

26th of June 2008 (Thu), 05:15

Straight out my 5D & 24-70L

Twins Birthday :D

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/2463264727_39d8a37299_b.jpg

orisky

26th of June 2008 (Thu), 20:45

OMG more please! Beautiful compositions and model!

Thanks! Sure, I have a few more of Katherine (MM#719793):

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/319653900_Viipq-XL.jpg

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/319653947_AUSu4-XL.jpg

Double Negative

26th of June 2008 (Thu), 22:26

^ Excellent shots... :shock:

orisky

26th of June 2008 (Thu), 23:14

Straight out my 5D & 24-70L

Twins Birthday :D

fun pic! it's a tad underexposed on my monitor, otherwise the colors would be brilliant! ;)

i_am_hydrogen

27th of June 2008 (Fri), 21:08

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9836/pru2pruaonsmallerdk0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Spazzmodicus

27th of June 2008 (Fri), 23:08

Dude, you could probably be a stock-photography millionaire if you hit it hard. That's not any kind of a smart-aleck remark. I just think you shoot good stuff that would sell quickly as stock. Maybe I'm revealing my ignorance of the 'stock-photos' world.....don't know. (well...maybe the "millionaire" part was a bit sarcastic but all in fun)

dan_1337

29th of June 2008 (Sun), 21:30

i keep thinking about selling this lens for a 17-55 or fast prime (35L) but can't bring myself to doing it. the focus is awesome and the pictures it can produce are almost always tack sharp.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3002/2609777833_7838cb5233.jpg

Franko515

30th of June 2008 (Mon), 17:25

5D 24-70

Double Negative

30th of June 2008 (Mon), 20:23

^ Creative! :)

Domino81

30th of June 2008 (Mon), 23:50

I recently had an opportunity to use this lens and I was amazed at the bokeh and how wide it felt on the 24mm end. Nice lens.

jefftaz

1st of July 2008 (Tue), 22:06

This is my most used Studio Lens. Great flexibility and also great colors.

Bukka

1st of July 2008 (Tue), 23:24

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a9/scarface1980/dudedog.jpg

M Powered

2nd of July 2008 (Wed), 01:54

New 24-70 less than a week old.

http://home.socal.rr.com/mpowered/JessQ2.jpg

http://home.socal.rr.com/mpowered/annie.jpg

http://home.socal.rr.com/mpowered/flora.jpg

swjim

2nd of July 2008 (Wed), 09:52

New 24-70 less than a week old.

http://home.socal.rr.com/mpowered/JessQ2.jpg

I Really like this shot! It's kind of funny, but the tilted horizon and flare are what sets it apart in my mind. Beautiful model as well. Great job!

CartoonBear

2nd of July 2008 (Wed), 10:39

wow, jefftaz, bukka, and mpowered. A small and perfect example of the many capabilities of this lens...and them as photogs :)

David S

2nd of July 2008 (Wed), 10:46

Posted in other forum but just love this lens.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/2631488068_9c6ff07434_o.jpg

ALaS

2nd of July 2008 (Wed), 12:44

Is that HDR, David S? Very stunning moment.

Spazzmodicus

2nd of July 2008 (Wed), 14:31

Is that HDR, David S? Very stunning moment.

I just assumed it was.....a lens can only do so much.....

DEMO

3rd of July 2008 (Thu), 00:52

nothing special, but I tried shooting my brothers old pair of my shoes from when he was 3..

http://UMEMER.smugmug.com/photos/324510384_jSRZG-L.jpg

mrerico

3rd of July 2008 (Thu), 04:58

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3153/2632619234_b35dbec65e.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3278/2630007739_9f4b735fb8.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3267/2630007755_791c0a8859.jpg?v=0

ALaS

3rd of July 2008 (Thu), 13:21

When did you get this lens, Eric!?

Radiohead369

3rd of July 2008 (Thu), 16:53

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3143/2634228489_1031cdde64_b.jpg

David S

3rd of July 2008 (Thu), 17:34

Is that HDR, David S? Very stunning moment.

Thanks. This is HDR using 6 different exposures. Way too much dynamic range in this scene for any camera.:)

JS4KIKZ

3rd of July 2008 (Thu), 17:43

http://js4kikz.smugmug.com/photos/312505871_G3iQM-L-1.jpg

Sfordphoto

3rd of July 2008 (Thu), 18:07

nothing special, but I tried shooting my brothers old pair of my shoes from when he was 3..

http://UMEMER.smugmug.com/photos/324510384_jSRZG-L.jpg

those look bigger than a 3 year olds to me!

Spazzmodicus

3rd of July 2008 (Thu), 18:45

OK...that does it Radiohead369. I was teetering on the edge of panos and you just shoved me off into the deep end with that one. Gotta' get out tomorrow and try a pano. Nice shot!

Spazzmodicus

3rd of July 2008 (Thu), 18:45

Thanks. This is HDR using 6 different exposures. Way too much dynamic range in this scene for any camera.:)

But still an awesome shot......

Spazzmodicus

3rd of July 2008 (Thu), 18:47

Great "lady" shots guys...I would completely forget how to use my camera if somebody like that was posed in front of me....

IainUK

3rd of July 2008 (Thu), 19:01

Does this image look sharp? It was a RAW at f8.0 with a bit of PP - It looks soft t me?

Radiohead369

3rd of July 2008 (Thu), 19:03

Thank you spazz, it was handheld by the way:D

Spazzmodicus

3rd of July 2008 (Thu), 20:17

Does this image look sharp? It was a RAW at f8.0 with a bit of PP - It looks soft t me?

If it was handheld at 1/100th then it's probably just blurred. You didn't use flash, did you? You might also enable "mirror lock-up" in your custom functions when in low light. Much easier just to use more light and bump up the shutter speed though.

mrerico

4th of July 2008 (Fri), 01:55

When did you get this lens, Eric!?

Lol, I've had this lense for awhile now :)

IainUK

4th of July 2008 (Fri), 05:57

If it was handheld at 1/100th then it's probably just blurred
I used a tripod and the timer to take the shot to avoid shake. But it was 1:30Am and I was pretty tired! I need to get out and take a load of shots and see how they come out I guess! Thanks for the comment though

Spazzmodicus

4th of July 2008 (Fri), 09:33

I used a tripod and the timer to take the shot to avoid shake. But it was 1:30Am and I was pretty tired! I need to get out and take a load of shots and see how they come out I guess! Thanks for the comment though

Also, "autofocus" isn't always as precise as it should be. You might retry the exact same shot but instead, use manual focus. It would be good if you could get a razor-sharp shot of the above scene, but you may not. My own 24-70 shoots razor-sharp in most lighting conditions but seems a smidge soft in certain lower-light conditions. And that may just be a matter of AF not being able to zero in at lower light levels. I'm still learning this stuff myself. Does the learning ever stop?....heh heh.

Spazzmodicus

4th of July 2008 (Fri), 09:54

Thank you spazz, it was handheld by the way:D

You have no mercy Dude........here's a guy that's already fallen into the deep-end, no lifeline, not nothing. Then you gotta' put your heel on his head with a comment like that.:eek:

Just kidding...but it's photos like that, that inspire others. Thanks for sharing.

CartoonBear

4th of July 2008 (Fri), 10:49

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/cartoonbear86/IMG_7559.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/cartoonbear86/IMG_7067.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/cartoonbear86/IMG_6986.jpg

lastrada

4th of July 2008 (Fri), 10:58

http://lastrada.smugmug.com/photos/325295391_echLV-L.jpg

Bigbillp

4th of July 2008 (Fri), 11:28

http://k43.pbase.com/v3/33/493933/1/48959665.cars.jpg
http://k53.pbase.com/v3/33/493933/1/48957414.mustang.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/v3/33/493933/1/48957413.mini.jpg

ieatstars

4th of July 2008 (Fri), 14:29

^^ love the first one! :D

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/2635207004_9d0847ed07_o.jpg

Radiohead369

4th of July 2008 (Fri), 17:22

Again thank you Spazz! My work isn't really amazing but I try really hard. It's nice to get some compliments ever now and then.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/2605140975_5365454294_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3137/2637613226_ab867ca3f4_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2199/2525843251_7dca647421_o.jpg

ieatstars - ZOMGZOMGZOMG! Gosh! I love your work! It just looks so.. AMAZING! It'd be so cool if you let me know a little bit of your post processing. ( I know people don't like to tell their photoshop secrets hehe) Love it though! Keep it up!

Radiohead369

4th of July 2008 (Fri), 17:26

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3249/2612781142_fbc64d00ab_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/2626755660_6610bbd395_o.jpg

Spazzmodicus

4th of July 2008 (Fri), 17:44

The skateboard shot is hilarious. It would probably be a great candidate to be photoshopped into a "Norman Rockwell". In case you don't know who he is (RIP) you've seen his work before...just do a Google image search on "Norman Rockwell".

But I also agree with ieatstars: The basketball shot is pretty amazing.
Granted, it's not like it's anything that somebody with some spare time couldn't photoshop together but it's still an attention grabber when you're looking at regular "single-shot" photos. At least you took the time and trouble to set up a tripod and put some effort into the captures. Kudos for that.

Tareq

4th of July 2008 (Fri), 17:56

Great job everybody, i like shots your posted here already, making me to go out or use that 24-70 more, but i am just now trying to complete my studio setup and soon i will start to give my 24-70 a real serious job then in studio ;-)

Keep up your works, they are amazing :-D

MuahMan

4th of July 2008 (Fri), 22:34

Lets revive this thread:)

http://home.pacbell.net/coolbit/tomato2.jpg

Awesome shot. What lighting did you do? A light from the top or two lights, one on each side?

jefftaz

5th of July 2008 (Sat), 00:42

Awesome shot. What lighting did you do? A light from the top or two lights, one on each side?

To me it looks like 2 lights and a reflector or fill card.

ieatstars

5th of July 2008 (Sat), 02:35

ieatstars - ZOMGZOMGZOMG! Gosh! I love your work! It just looks so.. AMAZING! It'd be so cool if you let me know a little bit of your post processing. ( I know people don't like to tell their photoshop secrets hehe) Love it though! Keep it up!
LOL -- thank you! :D I hate to say it but there's zero PP on that one. I took it from a double-decker tour bus right after the rain and the sun was shining a little bit.

Love your second pic, by the way! :) Different!

Mycroft

5th of July 2008 (Sat), 02:45

I really really like this photo. There's only one thing wrong with it....his camo trousers are way too new, clean and spiffy looking.....heh heh. Anybody that's worn them enough(in service) will spot that right off the bat.:lol:

Fifty bucks says it's airsoft, not the real deal. :lol:

Spazzmodicus

5th of July 2008 (Sat), 09:02

".....I hate to say it but there's zero PP on that one. ...."

I get those sometimes...then I mess it all up by an uncontrollable urge to post-process.

SarahJD

5th of July 2008 (Sat), 09:18

Here are a few of mine with minimal Lightroom adjustments.

f/3.2
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3163/2450438436_ca473bedcf.jpg

f/2.8
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2359/2428632655_d30b323a80.jpg

f/3.2
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/2425477515_4817b82a78.jpg

f/2.8
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2323/2423774461_c4f8bc04e7.jpg

Sarah

ieatstars

5th of July 2008 (Sat), 14:24

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk294/czechcanary/Zoo/IMG_3474ss.jpg

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk294/czechcanary/Zoo/IMG_3501copy.jpg

Possibly my favorite picture of all time... :D
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk294/czechcanary/Zoo/IMG_3659scopy.jpg

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk294/czechcanary/Zoo/IMG_3665Z.jpg

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk294/czechcanary/Zoo/IMG_3731copy.jpg

Radiohead369

5th of July 2008 (Sat), 19:28

ieatstars

5th of July 2008 (Sat), 20:49

ieatstars- Haha I see, but I was talking about the pics in amsterdam that you took, like say the one with the blue sti next to the building O_O

It's.. jaw dropping beautiful :]

But if you don't wanna tell me it's all gravy.

P.S. ZOMG LOVE THE THIRD AND FOURTH ! :] HAHA!
Oh, I had no idea you meant those. The STi, and photos edited like it, are an example of what someone else said above -- perfectly good pics that you get carried away with in PS. I know I used alien skin and messed with the contrast quite a bit on that one.

gospastic

7th of July 2008 (Mon), 12:20

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/2643884509_df10dc531b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewgospastic/2643884509/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3141/2644464375_d77dba7013_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewgospastic/2644464375/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3279/2643855683_1b04990178_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewgospastic/2643855683/sizes/l/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3262/2642780875_b0e0d6855c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewgospastic/2642780875/sizes/l/)

drama

7th of July 2008 (Mon), 13:36

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3053/2583279744_0ee5d776fa_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/2527754894_1340db33ca_b.jpg

LordAlex

7th of July 2008 (Mon), 14:58

WOW! Gospastic, like those alot!!

blam

7th of July 2008 (Mon), 21:43

got my 24-70mm F2.8L back last week while i was on vacation....I miss it so dearly

http://files.onthelam.ca/missy24mmtongue.jpg

http://files.onthelam.ca/vatoR.jpg

http://files.onthelam.ca/hudsoncross.jpg

Spazzmodicus

7th of July 2008 (Mon), 21:48

got my 24-70mm F2.8L back last week while i was on vacation....I miss it so dearly

Shooting from the hip are you?...heh heh.

kencas

7th of July 2008 (Mon), 22:49

Shooting from the hip are you?...heh heh.

ROFL:D:D:D

blam

8th of July 2008 (Tue), 07:36

lol

CartoonBear

8th of July 2008 (Tue), 09:20

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/cartoonbear86/0And8more_tonemappedps-1.jpg

airbutchie

8th of July 2008 (Tue), 12:24

A few from a kids party I shot recently...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/airbutchie/Photography/kids-party-01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/airbutchie/Photography/kids-party-02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/airbutchie/Photography/kids-party-03.jpg

I love this glass...

- airbutchie :D

kepople

9th of July 2008 (Wed), 21:44

So is this the version that came out in 2002 or is there a version that has IS on it?

Images are blisteringly sharp and I was looking for a replacement for my ever softening 17-85.

Thanks
kirby

blam

9th of July 2008 (Wed), 21:47

there is no version with IS

xairsoft808x

9th of July 2008 (Wed), 21:49

So is this the version that came out in 2002 or is there a version that has IS on it?

Images are blisteringly sharp and I was looking for a replacement for my ever softening 17-85.

Thanks
kirby

Nope. No IS as of now. If Canon did have a 24-70mm 2.8 IS L then that would be a killer lens. It would probably kill sales on the 24-105 and idt they would do that.

Spazzmodicus

9th of July 2008 (Wed), 21:51

So is this the version that came out in 2002 or is there a version that has IS on it?
Images are blisteringly sharp and I was looking for a replacement for my ever softening 17-85.
Thanks
kirby

No IS version in the product list at the moment.

What? The brick ain't heavy enough as it is?...heh heh

You can check out available lenses here:

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=SupportIndexAct

bluebomberx

11th of July 2008 (Fri), 00:27

The first shot with a 5D at f/9 and the second was shot with an Elan 7e on Fuji Superia 400 film and converted to b/w in CS3. Don't remember the aperture for that one. I shot it last fall.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/2639746871_4efbb604e5_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2647573166_d07351b823_b.jpg

skeeter0425

12th of July 2008 (Sat), 12:45

Just got mine yesterday...first pic...I love this lens!!!

Spazzmodicus

12th of July 2008 (Sat), 14:04

Friends from India.

http://www.all-event-photos.com/img/v2/p302858699-5.jpg

Mycroft

12th of July 2008 (Sat), 15:59

Fiends from India.

LOL, I hope that was an honest spelling mistake! :D:lol:

JDubya

12th of July 2008 (Sat), 16:00

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/SpeakerPhreaker/Atomic%20Meltdown/1-1.jpg

Paul Tinworth

12th of July 2008 (Sat), 16:23

Is that you after lifting the Brick so often, JDubya? :D

JDubya

12th of July 2008 (Sat), 16:40

Is that you after lifting the Brick so often, JDubya? :D

haha yes it is

Radiohead369

12th of July 2008 (Sat), 18:27

Is that you after lifting the Brick so often, JDubya? :D

LOL!

Spazzmodicus

12th of July 2008 (Sat), 22:20

LOL, I hope that was an honest spelling mistake! :D:lol:

Yeah...it was a goof. I corrected it. Thanks

blam

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 01:01

shot a wedding reception today :) man....I totally missed my 24-70 L (long story short, out for repair for 3 trips to canon, almost 2 months!). friggin love that thing!

http://onthelam.ca/kamian/kamian01.jpg

http://onthelam.ca/kamian/kamian02.jpg

http://onthelam.ca/kamian/kamian04.jpg

http://onthelam.ca/kamian/kamian06.jpg

kepople

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 10:29

Spazzmodicus

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 16:46

Just about convinces. I have the 17-85 now, and it seems to be getting soft. I think its due to the fact that the 20d with the grips puts a lot of strain on the front of the lens when its sitting on a flat surface, and so the front of the lens can actually be wiggled. Results softer photos, and some focus issues.
Sooo, after reading the issues with focus on this lens, if I buy it from B&H or Abes, and there is a problem, do you just send it to Canon for warranty service?
There is one local shop with it in stock, but they want $100 more. Better to spend the $100 to try it out in person first to check the focus?

Thanks
Kirby

Wiggly lens aside, I think your money would be more wisely spent upgrading your body. Used 30D's are getting cheap. If you could afford a used 40D or 5D, even better. Moving my 24-70L from a 10D to a 30D made a big difference.....so it's quite possible that you won't see the full potential of the lenses you have now without more 'horsepower' behind them in the form of a newer body. I'm not shooting down the 20D, it's a great camera. Heck, I still think my 10D is a great camera, but limited. I'm planning on moving up to a 1Ds series very soon. (I practice what I preach.......heh heh)

So, you might think about renting a different body and trying your lenses out with that before selling any of your glass.

runninmann

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 19:01

Wiggly lens aside, I think your money would be more wisely spent upgrading your body. Used 30D's are getting cheap. If you could afford a used 40D or 5D, even better. Moving my 24-70L from a 10D to a 30D made a big difference.....so it's quite possible that you won't see the full potential of the lenses you have now without more 'horsepower' behind them in the form of a newer body. I'm not shooting down the 20D, it's a great camera. Heck, I still think my 10D is a great camera, but limited. I'm planning on moving up to a 1Ds series very soon. (I practice what I preach.......heh heh)

So, you might think about renting a different body and trying your lenses out with that before selling any of your glass.Exactly how would the 30D produce better images than the 20D?

adam*

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 19:53

Portrait of a friend in Prague.

http://www.pbase.com/adamgrayphotography/image/100120914.jpg

Spazzmodicus

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 20:12

Exactly how would the 30D produce better images than the 20D?

Yeah the 20d and the 30d are essentially the same cameras, and if it were only between the two cameras then the answer to your question would be "it probably wouldn't". But there's another important variable in the mix: the photographer. The 30D has enhancements over the 20D that I feel allow the photographer a little more freedom or room to do his/her thing. One of the greatest being the 'spot metering' and yes I use it. Sure they've got the same processor and same sensor. I'm not so sure they've got the same shutter. I really don't know that one. The 30D shares more similarities with the 5D than does the 20D, such as AF algorithms, color and white balance processing.

But to get back to your point, yeah it would probably be a poor choice to go from a 20D to a 30D in the context of this discussion (improved lens performance)....but it would be an improvement nevertheless. Part of it being enhanced functions, part of it possibly being psychological.

S-S

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 20:17

seems to me that if the lens is damaged/faulty as described, replacing the body will not target the source of the problem... :rolleyes:

Spazzmodicus

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 20:19

Portrait of a friend in Prague.

Nice shot. The snowflakes frozen in the air on either side of your friend is interesting. Matrix snowflakes? It seems like you should have more bokeh at 70mm and f/2.8......but perhaps that's just the difference between a FF 5D and a cropped body.

Spazzmodicus

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 20:32

seems to me that if the lens is damaged/faulty as described, replacing the body will not target the source of the problem... :rolleyes:

I knew I botched my response after I hit the send button.
Everybody line up for your chance to flog Spazz. I deserve it...heh heh.

I based my statements on his opening comments: "Just about convinces". I could see him rushing out to trade in the 17-85 for the 24-70 or pretty much giving away the 17-85 thinking it was bad....and it might be. It might also be perfectly fine. Getting the 24-70 is a given. That simply must happen.....that is if you like the images in this thread. But for a few dollars he could rent a better body and see if the problems are replicated. (Don't rent a 30D...NOOOOOOOO!) For all I know kepople could be a master photographer and know exactly what he/she is talking about. But I've seen strange, unexplainable things and sometimes they aren't easily repeated.

adam*

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 20:34

Nice shot. The snowflakes frozen in the air on either side of your friend is interesting. Matrix snowflakes? It seems like you should have more bokeh at 70mm and f/2.8......but perhaps that's just the difference between a FF 5D and a cropped body.

Thanks. Not sure what you mean by 'matrix' snow flakes, but they are real if that's what you're asking!? Not sure, i'd say there's a decent amount of bokeh there though!

S-S

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 20:35

Portrait of a friend in Prague.

http://www.pbase.com/adamgrayphotography/image/100120914.jpg

i like this - usually snow photos have a blue tint to them so i really like the antique effect you gave this pic. it works well with his clothes & the scenery and gives added interest to the crisp snowflakes :)

Spazzmodicus

13th of July 2008 (Sun), 20:48

Thanks. Not sure what you mean by 'matrix' snow flakes, but they are real if that's what you're asking!? Not sure, i'd say there's a decent amount of bokeh there though!

Remember the bullets that stopped in mid-air just in front of "Neo", as if all vertically stacked in front of him? Never mind, it was a dumb comment.

Yeah there's a decent amount of bokeh...it just seemed to me there would be more with the aperture wide open. Maybe because it was an overcast day?

CartoonBear

14th of July 2008 (Mon), 09:36

...I don't think weather has too much to do with the amount of bokeh you can get from f/2.8.

I think the fact that he was using a FF would mean that there would be even more bokeh then if he was using a crop.

kepople

14th of July 2008 (Mon), 10:44

Thanks for the responses...however, I think the question still was not answered.
If I buy local I can see it in person, but cant really prove anything until I shoot it for a while. Is it really worth $100 to buy it local?
So with a B&H purchase, can you just send it to Canon for warranty service or do you have to go back and fourth with B&H if you get a junker?

A new camera body is coming, but not until the 40D is replaced, or pull the trigger on a 5D. In the mean time, I have a 70-200 2.8 and so with this I will have a 2.8 range from 24-200... that sounds good to me...

great photo in Prague BTW.

kirby

Spazzmodicus

14th of July 2008 (Mon), 11:45

ieatstars

14th of July 2008 (Mon), 12:04

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/2664702125_b1d0012c90_o.jpg

Radiohead369

17th of July 2008 (Thu), 22:16

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3073/2679059660_8531d53141_o.jpg

Spazzmodicus

17th of July 2008 (Thu), 22:23

Is it just me or does anybody else see mickey mouse's face smiling in the clouds...heh heh. (May I edit?)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3073/2679059660_8531d53141_o.jpg

Radiohead369

17th of July 2008 (Thu), 22:51

haha! I don't see it. yes you may edit:D

Edit: I see it now! lol!

Spazzmodicus

18th of July 2008 (Fri), 01:01

haha! I don't see it. yes you may edit:D

Edit: I see it now! lol!

Well..maybe not dear old Mickey. Hmmm....how about a dog with one ear? Heh heh....

http://www.all-event-photos.com/img/v1/p574582849.jpg

JDubya

18th of July 2008 (Fri), 01:08

Well..maybe not dear old Mickey. Hmmm....how about a dog with one ear? Heh heh....
looks more like the guy in your avatar lol

Spazzmodicus

18th of July 2008 (Fri), 02:09

looks more like the guy in your avatar lol

Now that's funny...heh heh.

DozerLYP

18th of July 2008 (Fri), 18:09

one more at f/2.8

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n56/dozerlyp/IMG_0354.jpg

Honeybee

18th of July 2008 (Fri), 18:26

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k114/LovellaJ/Bond/Bond-231.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k114/LovellaJ/Bond/Bond-386.jpg

kepople

18th of July 2008 (Fri), 19:30

Dozer, awesome shot, and sharp as a tack...

Man I sure need a Mac Book pro more than a new lens...

Kirby

i_am_hydrogen

18th of July 2008 (Fri), 21:40

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2975/600nlsd75cu7.jpg

Tareq

19th of July 2008 (Sat), 11:28

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3941/32453667cj3.jpg

definchdds

19th of July 2008 (Sat), 11:35

One of my early efforts:http://i.pbase.com/g6/76/651676/2/76177647.aJzCWT9M.jpg

Radiohead369

19th of July 2008 (Sat), 11:38

Wow. Beautiful shots hydrogen and Tareq.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/2680759287_a00365061c_o.jpg

Tareq

19th of July 2008 (Sat), 11:43

Wow. Beautiful shots hydrogen and Tareq.

Thank you

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9290/35164726bb9.jpg

BrantG

19th of July 2008 (Sat), 17:54

Decided to do something fun.

@2.8
http://www.brantgajda.com/images/forums/gow1.jpg

@4.0
http://www.brantgajda.com/images/forums/gow2.jpg

Spazzmodicus

19th of July 2008 (Sat), 18:24

Decided to do something fun.

I love it Brant! A great change of pace.

i_am_hydrogen

20th of July 2008 (Sun), 00:40

Thanks, Radiohead. Here's the night view:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4788/panorama7edit6nz0.jpg

CartoonBear

20th of July 2008 (Sun), 02:40

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/cartoonbear86/_MG_8143.jpg

100% crop w/out sharpening
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/cartoonbear86/crop.jpg

PaulGallagher

20th of July 2008 (Sun), 10:28

This really is an awesome piece of glass, well worth the money.

Mycroft

20th of July 2008 (Sun), 16:20

Shot a bunch in Jasper National Park. Enjoy! :D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2040/2686595466_a9ec85e9a3_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/2685781623_5ed9cf229b_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3043/2685781509_e21ddefa7b_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3199/2686524700_17eb14c24b_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/2686524580_9845da32b1_o.jpg

S-S

20th of July 2008 (Sun), 16:42

Decided to do something fun...

...and joined he-man's army? ;) lol
which one is you :)

Spazzmodicus

20th of July 2008 (Sun), 18:52

Shot a bunch in Jasper National Park. Enjoy! :D

Very Nice shots Mycroft. Makes me really wish I were somewhere like that instead of sitting in this dumb chair processing images.

Edit: By the way...how did you get so freakin' close to the elk? I forgot this was the "24-70" thread and was thinking: "Hmmm...probably used a 300mm or 400mm..." Heh heh.

Spazzmodicus

20th of July 2008 (Sun), 19:16

http://www.all-event-photos.com/img/v3/p644605004-5.jpg

BrantG

20th of July 2008 (Sun), 21:41

...and joined he-man's army? ;) lol
which one is you :)

haha. :p

I'll give you one hint. I'm the one that isn't smiling. ;)

Radiohead369

20th of July 2008 (Sun), 22:18

Beautiful portrait Spazz, any speedflash used? Very sharp photograph..

Mycroft

20th of July 2008 (Sun), 23:04

By the way...how did you get so freakin' close to the elk? I forgot this was the "24-70" thread and was thinking: "Hmmm...probably used a 300mm or 400mm..." Heh heh.

He was grazing at the side of the road, not more than 25 feet from the pavement. We stopped the truck and I got out, cautiously approaching until I was about 15-20 feet away. He seemed rather oblivious of everyone stopping to gawk at him, tho I was the only one brave (or stupid) enough to get out of the vehicle. :D Jasper is a huge tourist trap, so I suspect much of the wildlife has become accustomed to the people that pass through.

Spazzmodicus

20th of July 2008 (Sun), 23:29

Beautiful portrait Spazz, any speedflash used? Very sharp photograph..

Thanks Radiohead......I had a 580EX and a 580EXII bouncing off a silver umbrella on the right, and had a 550EX shooting through a white umbrella on the left for fill. All triggered by St-e2.

After taking a break from processing...I'm wondering if I went to heavy on the "black" in Lightroom on this.

Radiohead369

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 00:02

Thank for the info Spazz I appreciate it.. Good work :]

Hopefully soon I can afford some lighting equipment.

And no, the blacks look fine to me :] Lightroom ftw!

Spazzmodicus

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 00:43

Thank for the info Spazz I appreciate it.. Good work :]

Hopefully soon I can afford some lighting equipment.

And no, the blacks look fine to me :] Lightroom ftw!

Just keep watching the POTN "selling" forum. Some good deals on flash units and everything else go through there all the time.

Concerning the "blacks"....I fixed the problem. It was heavy on contrast. I like the contrasty look but cutting it back a bit helped this set. (not on the above posted image - but on my current batch of exports.)

alt4852

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 05:17

...and joined he-man's army? ;) lol
which one is you :)

no, brantg is just a gears of war junkie. =P

DozerLYP

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 12:35

that is a very nice shot spazz. love the colors and it's sharpness.

Spazzmodicus

21st of July 2008 (Mon), 16:59

that is a very nice shot spazz. love the colors and it's sharpness.

Thanks Dozer. I really should have desaturated the 'reds' a little. The pic is basically as shot with the 'temp' cooled down to about 5000K and the 'vibrance' bumped up about 12%.

Bukka

22nd of July 2008 (Tue), 00:53

My nephew.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a9/scarface1980/IMG_5581.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a9/scarface1980/IMG_5588.jpg

and the guy who taught me to use a camera.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a9/scarface1980/vince.jpg