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condyk
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 13:55
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=174932

So does IanD's intervention indicate progress or is it just more problem than solution?

Seems Marketplace has been running fine and also seems sensible that people ask questions in public for the benefit of all. So, why the sudden change? Bandwidth IanD says :rolleyes: Well if that is an issue then stopping people making unrelated comments is fair enough, but also stopping a potential buyer from asking a legitimate question in public seems plain dumb. It just causes extra hassle for possible buyers and seller :rolleyes: How many times would a seller need to answer the same question by PM, for example!?

Is this the new 'line' and if so can someone please articulate what needs to be PM'd and what is allowed in a Buy/Sell thread. Or, maybe Ian was trying to stop a question he just thought was unrelated to the sale, in which case then fine.

Pekka
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 14:26
We'd like to keep the marketplace in a form that latest sale is on top, as much as possible. It is easy to keep ones post on top for days with question-reply-question-reply loop. Asking queries in PM makes the ad placement "equal" both for people who take time to describe the items and reference to samples and those who just say "70-200 for sale" and give drops of info with every question - essentially fishing bumps.

BottomBracket
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 14:35
Perhaps a standard format should be followed by every seller giving such pertinent data like Item for sale, model, year, condition (1 to 10), location, cost, shipping options, modes of payment, sample photos, negotiable or not, etc.

condyk
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 14:40
Agreed ... bumps suck in Marketplace. Some are definately more guilty of that than others!

Maybe people need to be reminded that they must give full info and shots to maximise their sale potential AND that any apparent bumping will be dealt with. An honest question and answer seems fair tho' in a thread and saves a lot of hassle on all sides ... shame to punish all for the actions of a few, who could be dealt with in thread individually, or via a PM.

OK, that's all I need say ... so have a nice evening in sunny Helsinki ;-)

BottomBracket
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 14:45
On a similar issue, if bandwidth is of concern perhaps threads such as this could be eliminated. http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=174693

tommykjensen
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 14:48
On a similar issue, if bandwidth is of concern perhaps threads such as this could be eliminated. http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=174693

It isn't the bandwidth its the constant bumping that is the main issue. The thread You link to is harmless when it comes to bandwidth. The threads where members post 2 attachments, then make new post with 2 more attachments and so on those threads eat bandwidth.

tommykjensen
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 14:53
An example of a thread that is problematic is for example this one

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=175622

The sale is done but members keep posting to it! Stop posting when the seller has said SOLD. If You still have questions send them in PM's

BottomBracket
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 15:04
Thanks for the clarification. In the sample thread that I presented, it may be said though that it suffers too from constant bumping. It is a couple of days old, the original poster failed to post the picture, and the thread has been constantly bumped to the top, crowding out more deserving pictures in the Urban section.

Anyway, I do not mean to be a pain, I just reported what I felt to be an unnecessary thread. Thanks mods, I really appreciate your efforts in the forum and the way you keep on top of things here.

EOSAddict
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 15:10
I second Bottombracket's idea for a standard template - but please can it ensure the currency is included! (For those who think the world only exists between 65 and 125 degrees W! ;))


Isn't the Market place one forum we could delete posts from - once item sold?

madferrit
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 15:17
I don't think we should delete old posts. At times when i've looked to purchase an item i've searched for old posts to check things like price etc. Its like a reference point.

One thing i would prefer is that it is made compulsory to contact a mod to edit the title SOLD, to make it more clear.

Ronald S. Jr.
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 15:37
That bugs me too, Tommy. Why keep talking about it after it's sold? You're not supposed to post things like that anyway, let alone when it's sold, no?

IanD
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 15:37
As soon as a Mod sees that an item has been sold, the post title is edited with *SOLD* added. This is only done when the OP posts that the item has in fact been sold. The thread is then locked to prevent further comments like "Wow! Good Deal, I bought the same thing last week from XYZ Cameras and they charged be 20X that." If at any time you think that there is information in a locked thread that you need, do not hesitate to contact a Mod and they will be happy to help you. We are here to please.:) (OK, most of the time we please.)

Ronald S. Jr.
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 15:38
One thing i would prefer is that it is made compulsory to contact a mod to edit the title SOLD, to make it more clear.

I can't help but think that if the mods are keeping an eye on things, they'll soon after mark it sold and lock the thread, without anyone having to contact them. They've been doing quite well with that, lately.


EDIT: Posted same time as Ian.

tommykjensen
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 15:55
That bugs me too, Tommy. Why keep talking about it after it's sold? You're not supposed to post things like that anyway, let alone when it's sold, no?

;)

Moppie
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 18:11
Has anyone looked at disabling the moving of threads with new posts to the top of the forum?
I know it can be done, but not sure if it can be done for just one forum?
It would keep new items at the top, and stop people bumping threads. You would have to put as much detail into your initial post as you possibly could, because anyone asking a question will not help promote your sale.

GSH
30th of May 2006 (Tue), 18:44
Is the option in the board software to prevent new posts from bumping a thread ? That's one way to solve the "bump" problem at a stroke.

peacock
31st of May 2006 (Wed), 15:16
Having read the discourse and the new guidlines , may I suggest that posting sold in the thread for it to be closed / have soldadded to the title seems to deafed the objectives by in fact bumping obsolete threads to the top :confused:

Just an observation !

Pekka
31st of May 2006 (Wed), 17:30
Having read the discourse and the new guidlines , may I suggest that posting sold in the thread for it to be closed / have soldadded to the title seems to deafed the objectives by in fact bumping obsolete threads to the top :confused:

Just an observation !

When mod edits title to "SOLD" he may also delete the SOLD post which places the thread back to its original place.