Capture One DSLR LE

[tarves57]

I am trying to decide between C1 DSLR LE and BreezeBrowser, and have nearly decided to go with C1. However, I would like someone's opinion on any shortcomings of the Light Edition. Is it worth it? I was about to buy it online but noticed it's $99 BEFORE an additional 25% VAT.
No batch renaming or resizing is annoying, and only one target photo is a shame. I'm not experienced enough to understand whether only 1 ICC type is a disadvantage.
Any takers?

Much appreciated,

Susan

[henkbos]

Got the full version of C1 and it is great!

[Roger_Cavanagh]

Susan,

First of all, none of the differences between the pro and light versions affect the quality of the converted images. You get the same great result.

The pro version supports more cameras, but otherwise Phase One just made some arbitrary decisions to cut functions so they could continue to charge 500 bucks for the pro version.

C1LE is only supplied with one profile, but there are already a number of additional profiles available for free.

For some people the most significant limitation is 20 files in the batch development queue. Whether this will be a problem for you depends on your workflow. If you shoot pictures that all require identical adjustments, the limit could be a pain. If, like me, you review and adjust each image individual and only add those you want to convert to the queue, you probably won't have a problem. Development carries on in the background as you review the next image. As one picture is developed it is dropped from the queue. I have a pretty slow PC and have never run up against the 20 file barrier, except on one occasion when I developed a bunch of files and realised I had the wrong output format selected.

I also have BB and still use it for many things, but I do conversion with C1LE. If you want the best image quality and an efficient workflow (as I described) I would recommend C1LE over BB. However, BB and the sister product, Downloader Pro, are still highly recommended.

Regards,

[tarves57]

That's very helpful, thanks. Only one slight problem now. I have downloaded C1 and BB as trial programmes, but for some reason, C1 cannot see the raw images I have in a folder on my hard disk. (Up till now, I was using their sample pics). Have I done something to the settings? How do I make my .crw files visible in C1?

Susan

[tarves57]

Regarding previous message, I've removed and re-installed C1 and all is working fine.

Thanks to all for their help
Susan

[nycks1]

How do you save the images to a folder?

[Roger_Cavanagh]

nycks1 wrote:
How do you save the images to a folder?

In Capture One DSLR? Go to the Development tab, click on the folder icon and you can specify target folder.

Regards,

[Jack W.]

Does anyone know if C1 supports the G3?
Thanks.

[dtrayers]

Jack W. wrote:
Does anyone know if C1 supports the G3?
Thanks.

Not according to the FAQ's. Here's the FAQ website:

http://www.pictureflow.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=418749364ba133897cae79b3b340e75 7&forumid=29

[Jack W.]

Thanks Dave.

[shafiq]

Roger_Cavanagh wrote:
Susan,

First of all, none of the differences between the pro and light versions affect the quality of the converted images. You get the same great result.

The pro version supports more cameras, but otherwise Phase One just made some arbitrary decisions to cut functions so they could continue to charge 500 bucks for the pro version.

C1LE is only supplied with one profile, but there are already a number of additional profiles available for free.

For some people the most significant limitation is 20 files in the batch development queue. Whether this will be a problem for you depends on your workflow. If you shoot pictures that all require identical adjustments, the limit could be a pain. If, like me, you review and adjust each image individual and only add those you want to convert to the queue, you probably won't have a problem. Development carries on in the background as you review the next image. As one picture is developed it is dropped from the queue. I have a pretty slow PC and have never run up against the 20 file barrier, except on one occasion when I developed a bunch of files and realised I had the wrong output format selected.

I also have BB and still use it for many things, but I do conversion with C1LE. If you want the best image quality and an efficient workflow (as I described) I would recommend C1LE over BB. However, BB and the sister product, Downloader Pro, are still highly recommended.

Regards,




Roger,

You mentioned "C1LE is only supplied with one profile, but there are already a number of additional profiles available for free". Can you please point me to where I could acquire these FREE profiles from for the 10D?

Thx
Shafiq

[Roger_Cavanagh]

shafiq wrote:
Roger,

You mentioned "C1LE is only supplied with one profile, but there are already a number of additional profiles available for free". Can you please point me to where I could acquire these FREE profiles from for the 10D?

Thx
Shafiq


http://www.pictureflow.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1081

[shafiq]

Roger_Cavanagh wrote:
shafiq wrote:
Roger,

You mentioned "C1LE is only supplied with one profile, but there are already a number of additional profiles available for free". Can you please point me to where I could acquire these FREE profiles from for the 10D?

Thx
Shafiq


http://www.pictureflow.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1081


Thanks Rodger

[slejhamer]

Roger_Cavanagh wrote:
http://www.pictureflow.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1081


There is also an alternate generic 10D profile available at the same site, but in a different thread:

http://www.pictureflow.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1865

And finally, according to the pictureflow site, it looks like v1.3 will be out in November as a free upgrade, but there is no mention yet of the new features/fixes.

Cheers,

[Tin Man]

I downloaded an evaluation version and Forgive me for ignoran but how do I use these profiles with C1LE.

[Roger_Cavanagh]

Tin Man wrote:
I downloaded an evaluation version and Forgive me for ignoran but how do I use these profiles with C1LE.

You must set up Workflow>Colour Management Settings to use the profile you want for input, destination, web and print.

Regards,

[Tin Man]

Roger_Cavanagh wrote:

You must set up Workflow>Colour Management Settings to use the profile you want for input, destination, web and print.

Regards,

Thank you,

[shafiq]

Where do PS actions like LPBatch and Non-Linear from Fred-Miranda fit into C1?

Does one use C1-->Finsihed product ie is C1 an alternative to going dcraw-->PS (LPBatch/Linear) or is it just part of the workflow?

I am lost on this issue.

Shafiq

[henkbos]

I use C1 for all color corrections, sharpening, contrast, etc.
PS is used for rotation, perspective, cloning and all other things.

So basically: two independant steps, which are complementary.

[shafiq]

henkbos wrote:
I use C1 for all color corrections, sharpening, contrast, etc.
PS is used for rotation, perspective, cloning and all other things.

So basically: two independant steps, which are complementary.

Thx

[tikkeltokkel]

Has C1 better capabilities of colour correction and sharpening than photoshop.. or is it easier to use (i'm looking for a free trial of c1) i have started to use my photoshop a hell of a lot lately but dont know c1. Why is c1 better in these two instances (is it like fred mirands's sharpening?)

[Roger_Cavanagh]

tikkeltokkel wrote:
Has C1 better capabilities of colour correction and sharpening than photoshop.. or is it easier to use (i'm looking for a free trial of c1) i have started to use my photoshop a hell of a lot lately but dont know c1. Why is c1 better in these two instances (is it like fred mirands's sharpening?)

I find that C1LE reduces the amount of PS work. With C1 you're working closer to the raw data, so I think global adjustments are better done in C1LE than PS. I mean:

- white/gray balance and colour cast removal
- exposure compensation and contrast adjustment
- levels and curves
- saturation

Sharpening is different. I do like the soft sharpening in C1 and do use it often, but for a picture than is to be resized, I just use small amount of "capture sharpening".

Selective colour adjustment and stuff like dodge and burn is handled in Photoshop. C1LE doesn't have this stuff. I think C1pro offers some colour adjustment capability.

C1LE doesn't replace PS, but it does cut down some of the work.

Regards,

[oops]

Roger,

I am taking a "second look" at C1LE due to your excellent workflow tute.
http://www.pixelpixel.org/helpinfo/24_workflow_c1.htm

You show final output folders Gallery, PSD, Thumbs, etc. What is your size/rez recommendation for:

1. Web images destined for Pbase, etc.

2. E-mail images for Mom and Dad.

3. Archive (I think you only save your RAW images, right?)

4. Images I plan to print up to 8x10 (the max for my i950). This is my 'best photo' file and may need more than one folder. (psd, tiff, etc.) Right?

5. Thumbs. I have never used contact sheets but these would be handy, I guess.


Resizing is a weak area as I tend to go native size, 2160x1440 for me, and rez down. File sizes are still too large for many uses so I really need to force myself to learn this. :)

Thanks,
Chris.

[Roger_Cavanagh]

oops wrote:
Roger,

I am taking a "second look" at C1LE due to your excellent workflow tute.
http://www.pixelpixel.org/helpinfo/24_workflow_c1.htm

You show final output folders Gallery, PSD, Thumbs, etc. What is your size/rez recommendation for:

Chris,

I'm not sure there are any hard and fast rules, but I'll waffle a bit.

1. Web images destined for Pbase, etc.

There's a trade-off here between making your images look good and download speed because the files are too large. Also you may be concerned about people pinching your images. Images that are too small to see properly really annoy me - what is the point of posting your pictures, if visitors can't enjoy them? I don't flatter myself that my pictures are good enough for anyone to make any money from so, for my own galleries, I resize to a long side of 720 pixels and save with a medium quality setting. This gives file sizes that vary quite a lot depending on the subject - from 30k to 100k (bit big for anyone still running a modem, maybe). I run my monitor at 1600 x 1200, so I like the 720 size, but a long side of 600 pixels would save a good chunk of bandwidth and still look OK. PBase is a bit different because it creates different sizes. I stopped using PBase over a year ago, so I'm not sure how it works at the moment.

2. E-mail images for Mom and Dad.

I think here you can get away will smaller images. You don't want to clog up people's mailboxes unnecessarily. And, if we're talking snapshots of, shall we say, variable quality downsizing improves their look. The pictures I use on my home page are 360 x 240 (med/high) quality don't look too bad and are only 20-30k.

3. Archive (I think you only save your RAW images, right?)

I archive the raw and occasional PSD files when I think I've done a lot of editing that would be difficult to reproduce.

4. Images I plan to print up to 8x10 (the max for my i950). This is my 'best photo' file and may need more than one folder. (psd, tiff, etc.) Right?

I never bother to save the TIFFs. Save the final version(s) as PSD. If you do a lot of printing and reprinting and you are never going to re-edit a picture, you can save space by converting to HQ JPG.

5. Thumbs. I have never used contact sheets but these would be handy, I guess.

I don't worry about contact sheets, so can't really offer advice here.

Resizing is a weak area as I tend to go native size, 2160x1440 for me, and rez down. File sizes are still too large for many uses so I really need to force myself to learn this.

Fred Miranda's Web Presenter works very well. But PS CS is introducing new algorithms for resizing that will need to be reviewed.

Regards,

[shafiq]

Rodger,

I have a question for you.

I have recently started to experiment with Capture One Lite version. The onscreen results are absolutily stunning and it does save me alot of time.

However, I did notice 1 thing: When I do some sharpening in C1 and then export to TIFF or High Quality JPEG the sharpening never seems to show. I am assuming you are not experiencing such issues. Any advice as to what I can do to get WYSIWYG outside of C1 :-(

Thanks in advance,

Shafiq

[oops]

Perfect. This will keep me out your hair for a little bit. 8)

[Roger_Cavanagh]

Shafiq,

Saw your posts on the PictureFlow Support Forum, but didn't comment because I've no ideas beyond trying a complete re-install.

Regards,