20D and Elan 7ne????

[Reeforbust]

I was thinking of getting a film camera just to give it a go and I seem to like the Canon Elan 7ne. Not sure what would be a good film camera....

Just wondering if the lens will interchange with a 20D?

I figured I could get some nice lens' and then eventually move up to a 20D and just have to get the body....:confused:

[PAS Photography]

Yes, the lenses will interechange with the 7NE. If it works on your 20D MOST will work on the 7NE. I know a few lenses are out there that are not compatable with the 7NE. I know this because KEH.com has listed (all bodies except 7NE) in the desciption of a few select lenses, most of which are older tho. Anything lenses newer than 2001 I believe you should be fine.

[Reeforbust]

Yes, the lenses will interechange with the 7NE. If it works on your 20D MOST will work on the 7NE. I know a few lenses are out there that are not compatable with the 7NE. I know this because KEH.com has listed (all bodies except 7NE) in the desciption of a few select lenses, most of which are older tho. Anything lenses newer than 2001 I believe you should be fine.

Is there a film camera in which all lens' will interchange?

[PAS Photography]

I dont think there is "ONE" camera that will use every lens, its physical impossiblity. You cant go wrong with the 7NE though. I had the previous version the 7E, about 5 or 6 years ago and it took great photos.

[Reeforbust]

Okee Dokee.....thanks for the info!!

[lost]

Yeah, I have the 7n and it is goes great with the 20d. Since getting the 30d I really need to offload some equipment. I just dont need it now that I have a 30d and 20d. If you are interested in my 7n (only lacks the eye controlled focus) make me a offer.

I had it for sale in the marketplace but there doesnt seem to be great demand for film these days. There is a link to my marketplace post with pictures of the 7n.

[mlederman]

I did something very similar. I purchased a used Elan 7e late last year. It wound up being a great deal as it came with a decent zoom lense as well as a bundle of accessories like remotes and a grip. It is a great film camera. I know the 7ne included a few niceties like an illuminated panel.

I just ordered a Canon 30d because I kept reaching for my A80. For the most part EF lenses will fit on both cameras you mentioned. The only ones that won't be compatible between the two are the EF-S lenses which are made for the Digital Rebel, 20D/30D.

As a side note many of the accessories between the film and digital camera will be different.

[Reeforbust]

I'm still kickin this around.......

Seems that everyone eventually goes to a digital so Now I'm wondering if I should save the money and put it towards a 20D instead.

I'm using a G5 and does an awesome job for closer pics and macro work But it just doesn't cut it for landscape and things like a full shot of a wedding party...

[PAS Photography]

also a few sigmas wont work on the 7N / 7NE.

[ScottE]

I don't see any point starting with a film camera if it is your first SLR. Technique and style are almost the same with both, but shooting is a lot cheaper with digital. That way you feel more free to experiment and try new things so you can learn faster.

In any case, lenses do not work the same on digital cameras such as the 20D because the sensor is smaller. This means that an 80 mm lens on a film camera composes pictures the same as an 50 mm lens on a 20D, except that the 20D gets more depth of field at the same aperture settings. Why get used to using lenses in one format and then have to learn again when you start digital.

In my opinion, there is nothing inheritantly better about learning with film, unless you get carried away with cheap shooting in digital and don't take the time to learn from your mistakes.

[netizen]

7Ne is a good camera. Nothing wrong with learning with a film camera. Sure digital is cheaper as far as developing costs unless you do it yourself. Black and White film is easy to develop and you can do it in your bathroom.

Sure the camera will do all the technical stuff for you, but my favorite shots and what I consider my best were taken with a manual Canon. For my eye. Film looks the best. Your miles may very.

[johneo]

I'm still kickin this around.......

Seems that everyone eventually goes to a digital so Now I'm wondering if I should save the money and put it towards a 20D instead.

I'm using a G5 and does an awesome job for closer pics and macro work But it just doesn't cut it for landscape and things like a full shot of a wedding party...

I've got a 10D and about a year after getting it I got the 7ne. Great film camera though I wouldn't bother with the eye control. Fun to use at first but if you switch back and forth from camera to camera it gets to be a pain trying to get un-used to it.

As mentioned, I think the only lenses the 7n & 7ne can't use are the EF-S lenses.

I bought a 7ne because I wanted to try a bunch of different films and it was a real pain dragging another bag with my Minolta and all its lenses & accessories. The 7ne fits in the bag with my 10D nicely. Though I seldom use it (maybe 30 - 35 rolls in 2 years?) it's fun to see the results with fine grain, extra color or B&W films.

I'll also add that I wished I had maybe spent the same money on a better used film camera but ... It's still a great camera.

Just to add ... the initial cost of digital (20D as you're thinking) is more but if you really want to learn photography and get into it, digital is the only way to go. I think the learning curve is much shorter with digital.

[slitherjef]

I have a Elan 7N (no eye control) and its a great camera. Also have a 30D on order :D I usualy run Chrome or black and white film through the Elan 7n. Find your self a used one for around 200 bucks give or take or spend a hundred more and pick up a new one. Its got some fast auto focus too. The frames per secound is around 4FPS so you can burn up a roll of film in seconds :D

Check it out. Its a nice camera and the layout should be close to that of the 20D

[tellingthm]

i was using the 7e when i went digital with a 20d. i've some experience with rebels and the 1 series, and the 20d/10d/etc seem to be in the same class as the elan 7/7n/etc. 20d's build is better, but the 7e/7ne has eye-focus, which is awesome. feature wise they're pretty much the same- about the best "non-professional" camera imo, at least in the canon world.
ef-s won't work on any film camera, but otherwise all canon ef lenses will work (albeit there's no crop factor with film).

[Jesper]

Is there a film camera in which all lens' will interchange?
All Canon EF lenses will fit and work on the 20D as well as on the Elan 7 NE.

Canon EF-S lenses will fit only on the 20D.

Third party lenses (Sigma, Tamron, Tokina, etc...): They will most likely work on both cameras, but ofcourse Canon doesn't guarantee that they will work. Some older third party lenses don't work on newer Canon bodies, because there might be incompatibilities in the electronics.

[Ron Lacey]

I'm still kickin this around.......

Seems that everyone eventually goes to a digital so Now I'm wondering if I should save the money and put it towards a 20D instead.


That would be my advice. I bought my first DSLR 5 years ago prior to that I used an Elan 7E. I doubt I've burned two rolls of film since I went digital, the 7E sits in my equipment cabinet collecting dust now<g>.

Ron