View Full Version : Just got the 30d and took some pics today. What do you think?
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 05:03
Hi friends,
Well I took your advice and got the 30d. I went out shooting and I had a lot of fun.
Tell me what you think? I am still getting used to the camera and I would love your site. (pardon the watermarks. I have problems with people stealing my work)
http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/DrRyanFlynn/salesmall/61.jpg
http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/DrRyanFlynn/salesmall/60.jpg
http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/DrRyanFlynn/salesmall/59.jpg
http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/DrRyanFlynn/salesmall/58.jpg
http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/DrRyanFlynn/salesmall/.jpg
http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/DrRyanFlynn/salesmall/56.jpg
http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/DrRyanFlynn/salesmall/55.jpg
http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/DrRyanFlynn/salesmall/53.jpg
http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/DrRyanFlynn/salesmall/54.jpg
http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/DrRyanFlynn/salesmall/52.jpg
Ryan
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oria
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 05:29
Great looking pictures !!!!
What lens have you used?
Hmood
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 05:40
Hi
I have 30D and 16-35mm lens but I never got those kind of picturs like you do. would you please specify which lens / sittings you are using?
aliflack
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 06:15
wow! if only it was the camera that made such great pics, then I'd buy one tomorrow ;)
I'd guess that the 'look' of the photos comes from the post-processing...would be interested to know what you workflow was.
ZuluCB
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 07:07
Oh shizaaaaaam!
Keiffer
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 07:08
Great shots, I love the first one. What lens were you using?
led hed
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 07:23
nice shots, impressive.
bidimagic
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 07:33
nice shots (and nice girl too ...)
congratulations !!!
Johnny V
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 07:43
Nice use of HDR! Photomatix? - http://www.hdrsoft.com/
NIce images too!
pttenn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 08:16
Just me, but I think the name across the middle of the picture is distracting. But really nice pictures...
Nick C.
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 08:28
What a way to break in the 30D - just awesome. Love the water bubbler shot!
dkangel
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 08:30
From earlier posts it looks like you have the 17-85 ef-s and a 70-300. Can you tell us a little bit about your post processing. BTW great pics.
dkangel
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 08:35
Nice use of HDR! Photomatix? - http://www.hdrsoft.com/
NIce images too!
I have to agree with you Johnny. You can see multiple images on the flag. I would guess some sort of HDR as well but I have been known to be wrong.
kez
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 08:54
every single one of those is fantastic!
PP details, please!!!
mrclark321
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 08:59
Wow Ryan these are great. Congrats on the new camera. :)
You have talent!
Dan
JMHPhotography
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 09:00
Fantastic!!!!!! You are an artist... and I would bet dollars to dimes that you could get images just as great with a D30 as well. :) Beautiful work. Not that I condone it at all, but I could see why your work would have problems with being stolen.
Igadiz
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 09:16
Well, I don't want to sound bad but, I doubt those were taken with the 30D, for a start, no exif data, always very suspicious, then is the little copyright notice on the image but no copyright metadata, and of course the heavy use of multiple exposure mask and merge, sorry dude but you aint fooling me.
Nice "images" tho, I hope the guy you pinched them from doesn't come around here.
dsze
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 10:40
Well, I don't want to sound bad but, I doubt those were taken with the 30D, for a start, no exif data, always very suspicious, then is the little copyright notice on the image but no copyright metadata, and of course the heavy use of multiple exposure mask and merge, sorry dude but you aint fooling me.
Nice "images" tho, I hope the guy you pinched them from doesn't come around here.
...wow! Thats a pretty bold accusation for only your 2nd post on this forum. Since when is the lack of EXIF data suspicious. The exif is easily removed in Photoshop by simply "saving for web." This is a very friendly forum as you will find if you stick around. Accusing one another of stealing images is not typically something that occurs here, because stealing images and claiming them as our own is not something that we do. I'm just not sure how lack of exif, multiple exposures and a watermark add up to the accusation of theft. That might be an accusation you would consider recounting. Ryan does have those images displayed on his blog as well: HERE (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=1752115)
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 11:31
Hey everyone! Wow that was quite the response from you guys/gals. I really appreciate your kind words. Most of the these photos are HDR with 3 exposures (two stops of light between them) blended together. I am SOOO happy with the 30d because it will actually take the 3 shots for you in something like .6 secs so your subject doesnt have time to move. I did some photoshopping to give priority to different parts of the picture that wouldn't look good blended. For Instance, the water from the water fountain is only 1 exposure.
As far as lenses go, I haven't received my ebay purchases yet so i am still using the kit 18-55. Anyone have any suggestions for lenses? I am thinking about just getting some nice fixed lenses. I found myself wishing I could go a little wider than 18mm yesterday.
Thanks!
Ryan Flynn
PS I didnt steal these photos. They are just saved for web. haha sorry Igadiz you have been fooled.
sparker1
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 12:18
I think it puts a horrible copyright thingy right through the middle of your photos...not good.
Igadiz
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 12:21
...wow! Thats a pretty bold accusation for only your 2nd post on this forum. Since when is the lack of EXIF data suspicious. The exif is easily removed in Photoshop by simply "saving for web." This is a very friendly forum as you will find if you stick around. Accusing one another of stealing images is not typically something that occurs here, because stealing images and claiming them as our own is not something that we do. I'm just not sure how lack of exif, multiple exposures and a watermark add up to the accusation of theft. That might be an accusation you would consider recounting. Ryan does have those images displayed on his blog as well: HERE (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=1752115)
I did not mean to sound that harsh, is just that I do mark my images with a copyright mark in both the image and the metadata, so If I don't see, metadata copyright info, I get suspicious, If they are his images and this was just an oversight, my most humble apologies. As with regards of the doubt of camera use, well it was not the camera that created those images, it was created with a series of merged images, He should make that clear, so as to not confuse newbie’s in to thinking "wow I must get that camera look at what wonderful images it takes".
Kind regards
Kind regards
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 12:21
I think it puts a horrible copyright thingy right through the middle of your photos...not good.
I understand. Its just that I have a lot of people stealing my work. I have a blog with about 30,000 people watching my work and i see it everywhere. What other options are there?
Ryan
bobgaither
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 12:29
I don't know who would want to steal my photos. I've had people ask for them. I do asked for what and have never turned anyone down.Looks fine to me very creative in shots and never helps to have beautiful subject or model. Like any image they could be better. Just like any new lens or new camera learn the strong and weakness of it.
Igadiz
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 12:30
I understand. Its just that I have a lot of people stealing my work. I have a blog with about 30,000 people watching my work and i see it everywhere. What other options are there?
Ryan
Try this http://www.digimarc.com/mypicturemarc/. you will find it very usefull.
Kind regards
MagicallyDelicious
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 12:33
very nice pictures.
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 12:38
Try this http://www.digimarc.com/mypicturemarc/. you will find it very usefull.
Kind regards
Thank you!
Ryan
dsze
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 12:43
Ryan, I wouldn't worry about the copyright through your image and I wouldn't waste my time with digimarc, unless you plan to pursue offenders and prosecute. People are going to steal your stuff if its good regardless of what you do, mostly because the general public is largely unaware of copyright issues when it comes to photography...even if they were aware, many wouldn't care. With your copyright/name on the image at least they are advertising for you! :) You might consider moving the copyright to a slightly less distracting location, but I don't think this looks all that bad to be honest. ...amazing images by the way. I have yet to mess with HDR, as it just doesn't strike me as working well or easily with portraits/weddings, which is mostly what I do. ...perhaps, I'm wrong though. Can you give us an idea of what kind of time it takes to produce one image like this in HDR?
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aparmley
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 12:49
Ryan, I wouldn't worry about the copyright through your image and I wouldn't waste my time with digimarc, unless you plan to pursue offenders and prosecute. People are going to steal your stuff if its good regardless of what you do, mostly because the general public is largely unaware of copyright issues when it comes to photography...even if they were aware, many wouldn't care. With your copyright/name on the image at least they are advertising for you! :) You might consider moving the copyright to a slightly less distracting location, but I don't think this looks all that bad to be honest. ...amazing images by the way. I have yet to mess with HDR, as it just doesn't strike me as working well or easily with portraits/weddings, which is mostly what I do. ...perhaps, I'm wrong though. Can you give us an idea of what kind of time it takes to produce one image like this in HDR?
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Awesome images by the way - and the kit lens no less! Damn - its rather depressing those images are so good . . . :cry:
I'd be interested in hearing about how you went about the HDR conversions. . . I've tried it with the online tutorials - its like I'm missing something as my images took out like utter garbage!
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 12:51
Ryan, I wouldn't worry about the copyright through your image and I wouldn't waste my time with digimarc, unless you plan to pursue offenders and prosecute. People are going to steal your stuff if its good regardless of what you do, mostly because the general public is largely unaware of copyright issues when it comes to photography...even if they were aware, many wouldn't care. With your copyright/name on the image at least they are advertising for you! :) You might consider moving the copyright to a slightly less distracting location, but I don't think this looks all that bad to be honest. ...amazing images by the way. I have yet to mess with HDR, as it just doesn't strike me as working well or easily with portraits/weddings, which is mostly what I do. ...perhaps, I'm wrong though. Can you give us an idea of what kind of time it takes to produce one image like this in HDR?
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Hey man, thats what I am starting to realize. People will steal no matter what. Yeah I am ok with people displaying, but i have had trouble with people actually printing and reselling my work.
HDR. Yeah its a beautiful thing. I am still learning it myself, but you should check out a program called photomatix I think you can get it at hdrsoft.com.
If you use exposure bracketing you may be able to use it for portraits, because the exposures happen so quickly.
Talk to you soon!
Ryan
Igadiz
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 12:56
Ryan, I wouldn't worry about the copyright through your image and I wouldn't waste my time with digimarc, unless you plan to pursue offenders and prosecute. People are going to steal your stuff if its good regardless of what you do, mostly because the general public is largely unaware of copyright issues when it comes to photography...even if they were aware, many wouldn't care. With your copyright/name on the image at least they are advertising for you! :) You might consider moving the copyright to a slightly less distracting location, but I don't think this looks all that bad to be honest. ...amazing images by the way. I have yet to mess with HDR, as it just doesn't strike me as working well or easily with portraits/weddings, which is mostly what I do. ...perhaps, I'm wrong though. Can you give us an idea of what kind of time it takes to produce one image like this in HDR?
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Mmm.. I beg to disagree with you, digimark is a very useful piece of software, it tracks the usage of your images for both illegal and legal use, also it informs possible costumers of who took the picture and provides them with contact information.
The fact is, most people are very much aware of copyrights and what they involve.
If you are making a living with your images or want to do so in the near future, marking your images and protecting them is a must, copyright theft is a serious problem in our industry and giving the advice you just posted is just irresponsible.
We must stride to eradicate copyright theft, and this software is just one of the many tools available to us to do so.
Kind regards
kav
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 13:00
Bringing this post back on-topic, great photos Ryan :)
K.
defordphoto
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 13:02
Bringing this post back on-topic...
Thank you.
cdhender
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 13:05
The kit lense? Seriously??? :p
Awesome pictures :D
dsze
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 13:07
So how much time is involved in doing one of these HDR's ryan?
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 13:11
Hey buddy,
to get these 10 photos ready for sale it took me about 2 hours. I only sell my 20x30 prints for $150 but... still 2 hours of work for $1500 aint bad.
Ryan
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 13:12
Oh and to the moderator. Sorry for posting more pictures than allowed! I think they may be over size as well. I should have read the rules first. It wont happen again.
Ryan
dsze
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 13:14
-whew... thats a ton of time. Truly amazing images, but when doing 300-400 wedding photos or 75 portrait proofs, that might be a bit much. ...might be fun to do one or two though. Thanks Ryan.
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 13:15
Yeah man. thats what I was thinking. Get a few good ones. Maybe some shots of the church ect ect.
Ryan
dsze
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 13:17
Right on... I'm going to check out that software.
lungdoc
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 13:48
Just FYI your watermark has "steal" spelled as "steel". Love the shots, though they give me some inferiority complex.
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 13:50
DANG IT! Someone noticed! haha I was going to change it but I just said screw it. haha oh well I guess its time to change the water mark anyway.
Ryan
pitabread
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 13:56
Really nice pictures, but the watermark does ruin the shots.
switchblade5984
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 14:06
great pics!
KevinG3
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 14:25
Wow, those are great pictures. I have the 30D and the kit lens and can not get that quality from my pictures but I am new to the DSLR world and am still learning both my camera and photography.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what is HDR? I see a lot of talk about it here but i have never heard of it before or seen it mentioned in other parts of the forum before.
Thanks, and keep sharing your great photos with us (it inspires us other 30D owners:))
CyberDyneSystems
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 14:29
Amazing work..
Haven't played with HDR yet,. at elast not in the modern sense.. I do multiple exposures and PS with masks.. I'm going to have to try HDR though!
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 14:57
Amazing work..
Haven't played with HDR yet,. at elast not in the modern sense.. I do multiple exposures and PS with masks.. I'm going to have to try HDR though!
You really should check it out. It opens up a whole new world of photography. Not all the shots I have posted are hdr, but I never shoot without exposure bracketing on now.
Yours,
Ryan
Johnny V
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 15:00
Igadiz> As with regards of the doubt of camera use, well it was not the camera that created those images, it was created with a series of merged images...
With all do respect it, the images were created by the photographer....the camera and HDR are just tools...
Does a paintbrush apply the oils on canvas...or the painter?
davidfig
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 15:06
As far as lenses go, I haven't received my ebay purchases yet so i am still using the kit 18-55. Anyone have any suggestions for lenses? I am thinking about just getting some nice fixed lenses. I found myself wishing I could go a little wider than 18mm yesterday.
Who says the kit lens isn't any good. Not me.
SeanH
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 15:07
Very nice photo's, I love the hdr. Could you share your set up, I wasn't clear are you 2 stops apart total, or are you +2, normal, -2. Thanks in advance!
Sean
.....and any helpfull hints on that program would be very nice.
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 15:08
Igadiz> As with regards of the doubt of camera use, well it was not the camera that created those images, it was created with a series of merged images...
With all do respect it, the images were created by the photographer....the camera and HDR are just tools...
Does a paintbrush apply the oils on canvas...or the painter?
My thoughts exactly Johnny V! Light it paint. I know thats a bit on the artsy side of things to say. I believe if your end result is what you were trying to express when you opened the shutter, the you are a successful artist.
There is something to be said about the skill of getting a good exposure though. For the record, only 5 of those shots are HDR.
Igadiz
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 16:22
Igadiz> As with regards of the doubt of camera use, well it was not the camera that created those images, it was created with a series of merged images...
With all do respect it, the images were created by the photographer....the camera and HDR are just tools...
Does a paintbrush apply the oils on canvas...or the painter?
I never heard a painter bragging about his brushes.
Look, stating that a camera took a picture when is a combination of several exposures is just wrong, IMO.
Each to it's own.
I am not going to get in to silly arguments about it.
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 16:30
"I never heard a painter bragging about his brushes." HAHA well stated, but I do think you need to hang around more painters. I have heard many a conversation regarding advantages and disadvantages of different brushes.
Well man, only half were multiple exposures. I dont think its a problem to say a camera took a picture regardless of the way it took it. Its kind of like saying "thats not real photography because its not real film" Remember those days?
Im so glad god made the Canon 30d.
Art is Art.
Ryan
SeanH
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 16:32
I never heard a painter bragging about his brushes.
Look, stating that a camera took a picture when is a combination of several exposures is just wrong, IMO.
Each to it's own.
I am not going to get in to silly arguments about it.
That is without a doubt the dumbest thing I have ever read.
rwong2k
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 16:32
I've read up on this for using 2 pix for exposure of the sky and then the foreground, but to use multiple exposures for an increase in tonal range, I'ev got to try this out =)
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 16:34
Sorry everyone. I had to take down the photos. 6megs of photos with almost 1000 views = a lot of transfer for my poor little .mac account
if you still want to see them click here: the top 10 shots are my new ones (http://myspace.com/rianflynn)
Igadiz
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 16:35
Wow, those are great pictures. I have the 30D and the kit lens and can not get that quality from my pictures but I am new to the DSLR world and am still learning both my camera and photography.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what is HDR? I see a lot of talk about it here but i have never heard of it before or seen it mentioned in other parts of the forum before.
Thanks, and keep sharing your great photos with us (it inspires us other 30D owners:))
This post is a perfect example of why we should state the fact that, although the pictures were taken with a particular camera, the image is a composite of several exposures/enhancement via software.
These people (new to dslr) may get confused in to thinking the camera has more dynamic range that it really does.
Just my 0.2$
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 16:44
"Just my 0.2$"
Who gave you 20 cents? We are clearly on a 2 cent budget. haha I going to be honest with you man. If you hand a 30d to someone who doesnt know how to use a camera, they will give you pictures that are pretty bad. If you use a crappy camera for HDR your pictures will also look pretty terrible.
These pictures are a finished project. Its like showing a finished house to show the strength and beauty of a certain type of wood... instead of a 2 by 4.
Personally, if i was in the market for a 30d I would love to see some of the stuff you can do with it. Of coarse I wont know how to set exposure bracketing or use photoshop right out of the box... but I would be more than willing to learn.
Yours,
Ryan
PS I dont think my photographs are as cool as a well built home.
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 18:06
YES! looks like some moderation just took place. I am glad those posts are gone. So ANYWAY any one have some suggestions in helping my work improve? Thanks! Ryan
SeanH
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 18:09
Again great work Ryan......sorry about that other thing. I DL'ed that program myself thanks for the info.
Pekka
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 18:14
YES! looks like some moderation just took place. I am glad those posts are gone. So ANYWAY any one have some suggestions in helping my work improve? Thanks! Ryan
More content. Emotion. Messages. You have the skill and PS, don't get too comfortable - aim for more.
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 18:15
Hey sean, I'll trade you my NEW 30d for your 1D markII. :) I am excited to see what you do in the world of hdr
Ryan
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 18:20
More content. Emotion. Messages. You have the skill and PS, don't get too comfortable - aim for more.
I appreciate that. I am going to be trying to tell more of a story with up coming shots. I am still trying to express more emotion in my work.
Thanks!
Ryan
SeanH
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 18:23
Hey sean, I'll trade you my NEW 30d for your 1D markII. :) I am excited to see what you do in the world of hdr
Ryan
LOL.......here's my first try in the front yard. I'd be pretty fired up if I got anything half as good as yours. That program doesn't seem to work as good as PS for me? For some reason after I save it, then reopen it in PS it just looks normal again..........don't know what is going on.
http://i.pbase.com/o4/49/377449/1/58987502.firstDRweb.jpg
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 18:27
Yeah photomatix is a mess. It took me awhile to get around the bugs as well. I have only been at it for about a month now... now it cant be that hard. What was the range of the exposures for that shot? Ryan
kav
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 18:28
Looks good, how bout greener "greens" ? :)
billmob
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 18:42
Brilliant work Dr.Flynn, truly inspiring for photographers/other 30d owners, framing such natural vital color and beauty in ordinary subjects, great eye, if you do not mind sharing your knowledge a lil would you please describe how you did these, i have never used exposure bracketing, how do you do HDR, is it a program any leads about this information will help i have plenty of time to do research and learn, thank you and excellent photos:) look forward to seeing more :):)
RianFlynn
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 18:52
Brilliant work Dr.Flynn, truly inspiring for photographers/other 30d owners, framing such natural vital color and beauty in ordinary subjects, great eye, if you do not mind sharing your knowledge a lil would you please describe how you did these, i have never used exposure bracketing, how do you do HDR, is it a program any leads about this information will help i have plenty of time to do research and learn, thank you and excellent photos:) look forward to seeing more :):)
Hey friend! You can start of with Photomatix. Its a great exposure blending program with something called "tone mapping". Start there. You will have a blast.
Bracketing is a function of a camera to take a properly exposed photo(user defined) along with an under exposed and over exposed photo. This creates a large range in the light captured by the camera. :) When you blend them together it creates a really cool effect. If your camera doesn't have the ability to take the photos for you... just take a few photos and separate the exposures with a couple steps of light each. :)
Keep in mind that I am new to this whole HDR thing. Take what i tell you lightly and learn by experimenting!
I cant wait to see what you do!
Ryan
billmob
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 19:19
Thank you very much for the reply:) nice i will check out this , since i also have a 30d, i can use the exposure bracketing function, Photomatix i will also check out as well, have been shooting some ok photos and learning, the bmw pic in this thread i am linking came out decent,, have a look maybe, cheers:)
http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=177639&highlight=billmob
Igadiz
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 19:28
Thank you very much for the reply:) nice i will check out this , since i also have a 30d, i can use the exposure bracketing function, Photomatix i will also check out as well, have been shooting some ok photos and learning, the bmw pic in this thread i am linking came out decent,, have a look maybe, cheers:)
http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=177639&highlight=billmob
You may also want to try this site, is a wealth of information in PS techniques including HDR via layers (which will give you better results that photomatix)
http://ronbigelow.com/articles/articles.htm (http://ronbigelow.com/articles/articles.htm)
I hope that is useful
Regards
billmob
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 20:08
Thanks a lot igadiz, am checking out site now, :):) helpful..
Igadiz
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 20:13
;) You are welcome, just keep it handy on your favorites, and remember although it may seem daunting to start with ... after some practice it will become second nature
Titus213
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 20:21
Some of the best I've seen Dr. Flynn. I really like the compositions and colors you've achieved. I guess I'll have to give HDR another go...These are outstanding and an inspiration to try harder. BTW - the first image I tried it on had all exif data attached - and it said 30D.
And I've always been a big supporter of the kit lens. When used properly it is more than worth the $41 it added to the price of my 20D.
electrict
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 20:28
mmmmm WOW
rwong2k
15th of June 2006 (Thu), 23:47
pretty interesting stuff, I've been reading about HDR a while ago before I upgraded my camera but tried the programs in teh above link and they're pretty fast and convient to use =)
thx!
RianFlynn
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 02:55
Yeah this HDR stuff is crazy. Any one have anything doing it at night? I am not having and luck at all.
Ryan
Johnny V
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 10:08
I'm sure HDR at night would work wonderfully!
Not night shots, but shot in dim light, check out:
http://www.danburkholder.com/shadows/
Flckr has a HDR group...
http://flickr.com/groups/hdr/
RianFlynn
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 10:56
Hey brother,
Can you explain how you created those shots. What was your process?
Thanks!
Ryan
Johnny V
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 11:01
Talkin' to me? I'm not Dan Burkholder, I'm not the imagemaker of the above images!
I'm pretty sure he used Photomatix and many exposures.
Go to this page...yep HDR images.
http://www.danburkholder.com/Pages/main_pages/main_page_3-06/Dan%20Burkholder%20Home.html
I Simonius
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 11:01
I never heard a painter bragging about his brushes.
Look, stating that a camera took a picture when is a combination of several exposures is just wrong, IMO.
Each to it's own.
I am not going to get in to silly arguments about it.
but.. but.. that IS a silly arguement:lol: :lol: :lol:
RianFlynn
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 11:04
Oh great here we go again. haha
I Simonius
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 11:18
Oh great here we go again. haha
No no aaaaagh!
anyway - Im going to really have a crack at this HDR stuff AS SOON AS my Gitzo tripod I ordered over a month ago arrives (Yaaaaaawn) Taps fingers....
Igadiz
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 11:18
Oh great here we go again. haha
Don't worry I am not in the business of feeding 2K+ post trolls.
I Simonius
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 11:35
Don't worry I am not in the business of feeding 2K+ post trolls.
Someone got off to a good start!:lol:
RianFlynn
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 11:42
Don't worry I am not in the business of feeding 2K+ post trolls.
Can you just leave? This is getting old.
I Simonius
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 11:43
Talkin' to me? I'm not Dan Burkholder, I'm not the imagemaker of the above images!
I'm pretty sure he used Photomatix and many exposures.
Go to this page...yep HDR images.
http://www.danburkholder.com/Pages/main_pages/main_page_3-06/Dan%20Burkholder%20Home.html
Presumably he must have used a Tripod right?
I love the look of those, difficult to imagine there was no extra PP other than HDR
Fantastic stuff!
I Simonius
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 11:46
Dr.Flynn - You asked about Primes earlier, have alook at 'my stuff', it's exactly what I'd recommend if you're into primes, i.e. 35mm1.4, 50mm1.4,85mm1.8 (cos the faster 85 lens is BONKERS money!:lol: )
Do you use longer lenses? The choice just gets huge from 85mm upwards!
RianFlynn
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 11:48
yes yes they are rather good!
I Simonius
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 11:54
yes yes they are rather good!
They are a TOTALLY 'NEW" look!
Gotta get into this, - at first I thought he had filtered them not particularily subtly (before I read they were HDR'd) and that he was trying to make them look like paintings ( cos they do) - so I was trying to suss out what filter he'd used - In fact my FIRST thought was that they were actually 3D composits
The only question is whether his level of quality is easily achievable by common bilgerats like me or whether you need to be a Da Vinci ( ack- where's me code? :lol: ) of the PP world
RianFlynn
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 11:55
Dr.Flynn - You asked about Primes earlier, have alook at 'my stuff', it's exactly what I'd recommend if you're into primes, i.e. 35mm1.4, 50mm1.4,85mm1.8 (cos the faster 85 lens is BONKERS money!:lol: )
Do you use longer lenses? The choice just gets huge from 85mm upwards!
that is brilliant. i am actually about to order that 50m 1.4. How do you think it compares to the 1.8. I am also looking for something SUPER wide and not outrageous in price. Any suggestions?
dsze
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 11:59
Ryan, the 50 1.4 is AWESOME. I think if I had to, I could shoot everything with just that lens. I upgraded to it from the 1.8 and the differences really are worth it if you can swing the cost. The 1.8 is a super lens too and I used it for a long time before upgrading to the 1.4. I agree with Simon, the 851.8 is also a superb piece of glass. I'm finding now with my 70-200 2.8 that I use the 50 and the 85 less though. We'll see if I end up needing/wanting either of them in tomorrow's wedding... if not, I may look to sell one or both.
KevinG3
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 12:00
Hey guys, I ran accross this and thought I would post it as it might be helpful to some that want to try HDR. Good luck :)
http://hdr101.com/?page_id=4
KevinG3
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 12:02
Okay, one more :) I like this one too.
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/high-dynamic-range.htm
I Simonius
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 12:06
that is brilliant. i am actually about to order that 50m 1.4. How do you think it compares to the 1.8. I am also looking for something SUPER wide and not outrageous in price. Any suggestions?
Super wide - on the 30D right?
Your choices are the 15mm - gives you the sharpest 24mm equiv for the 1.6 crop, but CA is pretty heavy - I tried one but theres no way to get rid of bendy horizons unless they're dead cantre of the shot (boring) As long as you have no essential straight lines it s a very good performer, reall sharp (for a 24mm equiv)
The 17-40f4L zoom and 16-35f2.8L zoom are ona par across the range with the 17-40 being better at the wide end and vica versa for the 16-35. I use the 17-40 zoom as a Prime 17mm, (rarely zooming) If speed's an issue then it 's the 16-35 as it';s one stop faster, if money's an issue the 17-40 ius a lot cheaper
The 10-22 has mixed reviews, it's a great performer up to a certain level of enlargement - I'll leave it at that. I tried one and eventually went for the 17-40 instead. You get the sweet spot (with the 17-40) with a crop camera and it's ( the 17-40 not the 10-22) at least as good as any prime of equal FL up to 28mm. That's my belief after EXTENSIVE research:D
A lot of people have gone for the Sigma choices at the very wide end. I know nothing about those lenses, others can advise you better
Re: the 50f1.4 v the 1.8
They're close but the 1.4 definitely has the edge. If money's tight though the 1.8 won't let you down
RianFlynn
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 12:07
Hey Daniel. Yeah man let me know if you want to let go of that 50mm. I will take it off your hands right away.
ryan
I Simonius
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 12:07
Ryan, the 50 1.4 is AWESOME. I think if I had to, I could shoot everything with just that lens. I upgraded to it from the 1.8 and the differences really are worth it if you can swing the cost. The 1.8 is a super lens too and I used it for a long time before upgrading to the 1.4. I agree with Simon, the 851.8 is also a superb piece of glass. I'm finding now with my 70-200 2.8 that I use the 50 and the 85 less though. We'll see if I end up needing/wanting either of them in tomorrow's wedding... if not, I may look to sell one or both.
hey that'd set him up nicely!:D
I Simonius
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 12:11
Okay, one more :) I like this one too.
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/high-dynamic-range.htm
Good links Kevin - now there's even MORE reading to do!!!
;)
Sageg
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 12:13
Wow, these are absolutely stunning. Makes me want to visit the place they were taken. you are a total artist!
You've also convinced me I need to upgrade my triopod & try out HDR. Don't worry-I know, artist, not the tools, but I can dream. :P
Curious about one thing, you said Sorry everyone. I had to take down the photos. 6megs of photos with almost 1000 views = a lot of transfer for my poor little .mac account
Can you actually use .mac to host photos? I've got a .mac account, but I've been hosting on photobucket because I couldn't figure out how to use .mac. Any hints will be appreciated.
Hope you don't mind if I stalk your blog. :)
(Also a fan of the kit lens)
RianFlynn
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 12:19
Hey Sarah,
no no stalking is just fine! Yes yes you can use .mac to host your photos. click on your desktop and then go to the "go" menu and select idisk. Move the pictures you want into "sites" the url for your pictures is "http://homepage.mac.com/yourusername/picturename.jpg"
I just upgraded my tripod as well. I got a manfrotto. I highly recommend them.
Yours
ryan flynn
I Simonius
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 12:21
Wow, these are absolutely stunning. Makes me want to visit the place they were taken. you are a total artist!
You've also convinced me I need to upgrade my triopod & try out HDR. Don't worry-I know, artist, not the tools, but I can dream. :P
Curious about one thing, you said
Can you actually use .mac to host photos? I've got a .mac account, but I've been hosting on photobucket because I couldn't figure out how to use .mac. Any hints will be appreciated.
Hope you don't mind if I stalk your blog. :)
(Also a fan of the kit lens)
FWIW I use smugmug, the advantage there is no limit!
http://digital-finger.smugmug.com/
mavericksupersonic
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 12:22
Yeah this HDR stuff is crazy. Any one have anything doing it at night? I am not having and luck at all.
Ryan
I am going to have to try this for some night photos sometime. My favorite photo subject is the Empire State Building. I have had very limited luck shooting it at night when it is red, white, and blue because of the differences in the three colors. I think this would be an instance when HDR would be very useful.
Sageg
16th of June 2006 (Fri), 13:50
Thanks Ryan--going to give it a try. :)
no no stalking is just fine! Yes yes you can use .mac to host your photos. click on your desktop and then go to the "go" menu and select idisk. Move the pictures you want into "sites" the url for your pictures is "http://homepage.mac.com/yourusername/picturename.jpg"
I just upgraded my tripod as well. I got a manfrotto. I highly recommend them.
Duder
17th of June 2006 (Sat), 03:19
Hey buddy,
to get these 10 photos ready for sale it took me about 2 hours. I only sell my 20x30 prints for $150 but... still 2 hours of work for $1500 aint bad.
Ryan
If I may ask, do you sell many prints?
malla1962
17th of June 2006 (Sat), 04:31
nice set of shots.
stewie-lives
17th of June 2006 (Sat), 08:20
Ryan, utterly blown away by what is clearly superlative talent, and slightly ashamed by an immediate sense of resentment, I had to google you.
My first evil thought/question is why you pretend to not know about equipment, or some of it anyway?! :p Your name came up on a Canon oriented web site, and your site "alantahatesus' shows someone who not only is a master of light, but must have some pretty good portable studio equipment. The DOF of a few OUTSTANDING portraits hints at a very fast lens as well as good studio equipment... The more straightforward you could be about what you are into and what you do, the more helpful, the oh-so-more helpful it would be.
I'm happy to have run into your thread and I'll keep an eye on your career. I think you've set the new benchmark for where I want to be, not from these HDR pictures, but from your portraits and outdoor work.
What other forums do you frequent?
stewie-lives
17th of June 2006 (Sat), 08:27
Oh yeah, when you're this good, you're going to attract all sorts of attention. Just cause and effect I guess. You handle it well!
Johnny V
17th of June 2006 (Sat), 08:59
He's here too:
http://www.ryanflynn.com/
He shoulda told us he's only two-years-old!
RianFlynn
17th of June 2006 (Sat), 20:42
Ryan, utterly blown away by what is clearly superlative talent, and slightly ashamed by an immediate sense of resentment, I had to google you.
My first evil thought/question is why you pretend to not know about equipment, or some of it anyway?! :p Your name came up on a Canon oriented web site, and your site "alantahatesus' shows someone who not only is a master of light, but must have some pretty good portable studio equipment. The DOF of a few OUTSTANDING portraits hints at a very fast lens as well as good studio equipment... The more straightforward you could be about what you are into and what you do, the more helpful, the oh-so-more helpful it would be.
I'm happy to have run into your thread and I'll keep an eye on your career. I think you've set the new benchmark for where I want to be, not from these HDR pictures, but from your portraits and outdoor work.
What other forums do you frequent?
Well I have some funny information for you. I am not the only person named Ryan Flynn who is a photographer. There is a portrait photographer and another guy name Ryan Flynn who shoots Skate Boarding.
I must shamefully admit that I dont know much about my gear yet... but I am learning SUPER fast. Heck maybe there is something in the name hmm? hehe
Thanks for your kind words friends. :)
RianFlynn
17th of June 2006 (Sat), 20:46
If I may ask, do you sell many prints?
Hey Pete! Yeah man I do alright. I have been selling my work independently for about a year now and I have sold about 500 shots (im guessing) I would have to go through my paypal records, but I was able to quit my job a little while back. I have found a niche.
Thanks!
Ryan
RianFlynn
17th of June 2006 (Sat), 20:46
He's here too:
http://www.ryanflynn.com/
He shoulda told us he's only two-years-old!
Yeah I have been trying to buy RyanFlynn.com from them for years. hahah I cant even find a way to contact them through "whois"
Yours
Ryan Flynn
fivegallon
17th of June 2006 (Sat), 21:15
G'Day Ryan, awesome pics man. Can i ask what camera you used for the pictures in your book?
TSmith8779
17th of June 2006 (Sat), 21:18
HDR? Never heard of it before today, but will for sure be looking into it now.
GREAT pics!
RianFlynn
17th of June 2006 (Sat), 21:25
G'Day Ryan, awesome pics man. Can i ask what camera you used for the pictures in your book?
Hey there,
Yeah I used a Canon SD600 for that book. I just wanted to show my friends that you dont need a $5000 camera to take nice shots. :) I have actually sold a good amount of those books.
Talk to you later,
Ryan
EOS mE
18th of June 2006 (Sun), 00:40
ryan... awesome photos... love the first one!!
chekone11
19th of June 2006 (Mon), 15:02
I understand. Its just that I have a lot of people stealing my work. I have a blog with about 30,000 people watching my work and i see it everywhere. What other options are there?
Ryan
Steel is for buildings. You should have written "steal", Dr. ;)
30,000 people are viewing this afterall.
taramcg
19th of June 2006 (Mon), 15:50
I'm late to the party, just wanted to say that I admire your work. Gorgeous.
05Xrunner
19th of June 2006 (Mon), 20:41
How do you get the pics soo smooth...I was trying to do it in photomatrix...and when i do it I get noise and stuff..Even after noise ninja still looks kinda crappy...How are yours so smooth..are you doing post process to each pic before u even start the HDR
RianFlynn
19th of June 2006 (Mon), 21:16
hey there,
no process. I just shoot one of the photos ever so slightly out of focus. :)
Ryan
05Xrunner
19th of June 2006 (Mon), 21:23
hmmm...guess I got alot to learn on it
Andy_T
20th of June 2006 (Tue), 07:02
Ryan,
these are awesome images :D
Thank you so much for skilfully demonstrating not only what a properly exposed image can do, but also what you can do with HDR. I will most certainly have to give it a try.
Best regards,
Andy
photojag
20th of June 2006 (Tue), 08:41
great pics but I have to agree that your signature across the pictures is a lil distracting to me as well, but having said that these are remarkable.. loved every single one of them. What software do you use for editing?
RianFlynn
21st of June 2006 (Wed), 19:34
great pics but I have to agree that your signature across the pictures is a lil distracting to me as well, but having said that these are remarkable.. loved every single one of them. What software do you use for editing?
I have a copy of photoshop CS2... but I avoide its use. har har har!
:)
Rian
RianFlynn
21st of June 2006 (Wed), 19:36
Steel is for buildings. You should have written "steal", Dr. ;)
30,000 people are viewing this afterall.
yes yes. I know :( It was about 430am when I wrote that. I have been to lazy to fix the darn thing.
_flynn
luant16
23rd of June 2006 (Fri), 23:07
hei ive never used HDR features before, and i know my PS CS has those features, does the program from http://www.hdrsoft.com/ is better from CS or they would produce the same result ??? thanks
RianFlynn
24th of June 2006 (Sat), 04:40
well Photoshop CS2 is the one with the HDR conversion. Photomatix has something called tone mapping that would be worth looking into.
Yours,
Rian
luant16
24th of June 2006 (Sat), 08:16
thanks for your answer... i was curious before and actually bought one.. its much better than the CS2.. i was confusing about how to use it before, but now its ok.. just keep playing with the tone..
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