National Geographic Backpack Review

[lmitch6]

Just thought I'd share this with everyone. The back story is that I needed a backpack for day hiking with camera equipment. Most everything I looked at had some issue which broke the deal for me. The National Geographic line was mentioned here a few weeks ago, so I decided to revisit the idea. I looked them up and ended up ordering the 5162 model, the smaller one from Samy's Camera. I stopped in and picked it up this morning, so here go my impressions thus far....

1. I really like the design. I hate camera bags/electronics bags that give away what's inside, these have a nice 'rucksack' appeal. the material is really soft, it's just the right size for my height (5'8").

2. The bottom section holds camera gear, and the top will hold all the extras (first aid, sweater, etc....) The nice thing about the design is that the bag doesn't "fold in half" to open the camera compartment, like similar models.

3. There are a ton of small pockets for storage, Pens, paper, whatever, you can find a spot to put it.

4. 2 storage compartments are on each side of the pack. Sized perfectly for a water bottle, you could put a 70-200 in one for quick access in the field. When not in use, they stuff inside the pack.

5. Tripod straps are included also. You could put the tripod on the side or on the bottom, whichever is most comfortable for you.

All in all, it's a keeper. I'm taking it on this weekends shooting, so if there are any additional obeservations, I'll come back and post them here....

[lmitch6]

Here are some more pics. Here you can see the front pockets and top storage....

[lmitch6]

Last ones. Here you can see the collapsible side pockets, and the rear compartment. There's a bottle of Powerade in the right one for size. The rear compartment is sized for a laptop, I inserted a magazine and map so you can get an idea for the size...

[Lord_Malone]

Looks like a pretty cool bag. Pricey, but cool. How much crap can you fit in that thing? I was considering this bag myself.

[lmitch6]

They go for about 150, which is about average for backpacks. I got mine for a little less, as I do business with the store regularly. I think it can hold quite a bit. My prime collection fits with plenty of room to spare, so I'd think you could fit your lenses in there fine. The upper compartment is a good size, even loaded with the stuff I take dayhiking there's still room to spare.

[EllenC]

I'm so glad you posted about this bag. I'd asked about it awhile ago.

Would you mind taking a picture of it on someone's back so I could get an idea of how large it is? You mentioned you are 5.8, I'm quite a bit smaller and am worried it will be to long for comfort.

Does it feel like it's padded enough to protect your gear?

[lmitch6]

Ellen,

I'll see if I can put something together for you this evening. I think the level of padding is perfect, no worries about the level of gear protection it provides.

[lmitch6]

Ellen,

As promised, here a couple pics of the bag on my 5'8" frame. The official measurements are 12.5" wide, 18.1" tall. This would be the 'completely stuffed to the max' measurements, as I measure mine as currently loaded at 12.5" wide, 16.5" tall. I hope this helps you out some. I'm even more attached to it after shooting with all weekend, it works good sitting on the passenger seat of the car to shoot out of, and out hiking.

[R_Metzel]

Thanks for the pics. I was also thinking about this bag. I just picked up an Tamrac expedition 5. Still might get this one though.

[coreypolis]

wow, bigger than I thought it would be.

its a intresting design, but nothing I would give up my Tamrac expedition series for. doesn't look that well padded either, though its a smaller form factor which would be nice in crowds

[lmitch6]

It's actually very well padded, although it doesn't look like it from the outside. I'd rate the internal dividers at the same thickness/qualilty of a Tamrac or Lowepro, what makes it look less padded is the bags "floppy" appearance (ala Domke) compared to the rigid structure of other backpacks.

[noname]

looks good :)

do you think it can hold a 15 or 17" laptop?

[lmitch6]

Noname,

I just measured the back compartment,it would hold a 15" laptop, but not a 17"

[hcker2000]

I have a top loading holster type bag right now but with the new lens's I just got I'm gona have to find another bag.

This backpack looks very cool. Could maby use a bit more padding from the looks of it.

Maby this is just me but I always find it odd that camera bags cost alot. I meen my two new lenses came in at under $200 with shiping. Now there not L glass but still to me a lens is alot more complicated than a bag. :confused:

[lmitch6]

I have a top loading holster type bag right now but with the new lens's I just got I'm gona have to find another bag.

This backpack looks very cool. Could maby use a bit more padding from the looks of it.

Maby this is just me but I always find it odd that camera bags cost alot. I meen my two new lenses came in at under $200 with shiping. Now there not L glass but still to me a lens is alot more complicated than a bag. :confused:

Don't let the looks fool you, it's very well padded.

[NicknMadison1]

I like this bag and am trying to find one.....tried the NG website...no luck. Any suggestions....

[lmitch6]

I like this bag and am trying to find one.....tried the NG website...no luck. Any suggestions....

B&H Has them:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home;jsessionid=Gbkh2ghsWj!1508707039!115106722668 9?ci=1&sb=ps&pn=1&sq=desc&InitialSearch=yes&O=RootPage.jsp&A=search&Q=*&bhs=t&shs=national+geographic+5162&image.x=0&image.y=0

Also Samy's Camera (where I got mine):
http://www.samys.com/product.php?ItemNo=NATING5162&MANUFACTURER=National+Geographic&SEARCH_TEXT=5162&USED=

:-)

[DavidW]

Bogen Imaging are the US distributor (they also distribute Manfrotto in the US) - see here (http://www.bogenimaging.us/) for the range, and here (http://www.popphoto.com/cameraaccessories/1838/pma-2006-video-coverage-bogen.html) for a video from PMA 2006 talking about the bags.



David

[lmitch6]

An update....

After a good day of hiking with the bag, I've got a few more observations:
1. The 'rucksack' style, or the general 'floppiness' of the bag make wearing it feel like a natural extenstion of the body. It tends to form around the back, making it less obvious that you're carrying it.

2. All the extra hooks and d-rings make for convient 'in the field' storage. In the pic below, you can see my cell phone, Lastolite EZ-Balance, and tripod head cover, clipped in various spots. (Another thing about the tripod head cover is that it doubles as a lens pouch, I'll clip it my belt with a lens in it if I'm anticipating a change, saving the need to open up the bag).

3. The bag sits up on its own wonderfully, saving one from getting the straps and back full of trail debris.

All in all, still love it!

[kidrebel]

That is a nice bag.What material is that and is it water resistant? I'm looking for a backpack that can get a little wet if need be.

[EllenC]

Okay, I'm sold. While it may end up being half my size, I just can't pass this one up.

Thanks so much for the reports.

[lmitch6]

That is a nice bag.What material is that and is it water resistant? I'm looking for a backpack that can get a little wet if need be.


It's made of a 'padded cotton hemp blend', whatever that is. I haven't tested waterproofness, may not get a chance here in So Cal where rain is rare :-)

By habit from living in Ohio though, I tend to keep a trash bag packed away, just in case though. It's no biggie to drape it over a bag in a rainstorm. It also serves dual purpose as a tarp when on wet ground.

[lmitch6]

Okay, I'm sold. While it may end up being half my size, I just can't pass this one up.

Thanks so much for the reports.

Glad I could help Ellen. I think you'll really like it. On my frame, when the shoulder straps are cinched up, the bag comes to just above my lower back, I'm hoping it won't be too big on you.

I may be up your way soon, I'm planning a run up the coast through Big Sur, Monterey, into SF and on to Point Reyes......if I can eve stop working! :-)

[Stratrix]

nice review. :)

[Steve M]

This looks like a good pack. Does anyone have any thoughts on using this or something similar to carry gear on a motorcycle (one that Vibrates!!)?

[Chrisedge]

Was just in Samy's and they are tagged at $210. I didn't know their website had them at $150 or I would have offered them that. I walked out.

[lmitch6]

Their website is cheaper than the in-store price. Most places are like that. I buy all my gear there, and typically get a better deal than 'sticker price'

[drive_75]

How many lenses does this bag fit? I couldn't find any info on the number of lenses and camera it can fit. Just wandering if it will fit 20D with grip, 135L, 200L, 85mm, 50mm, 25mm, 17-40 f4L? I also carry my Epson P2000 and Canon 580EX.

[entrefoto]

I was interested in the large backpack as long as i would be able to fit all my gear in it. 30D with grip, 17-40, 50 f/1.4, 70-200 f/2.8 IS, 24-70 f/2.8, 580ex, 430ex, and soon to come 5d and another 430ex.

[lmitch6]

I'd say you could comfortably fit 4 lenses in the main camera compartment, plus one on camera - depending on the size of the lenses. A 70-200 f/2.8 would fit in the top compartment, with a little room to spare for other stuff:

drive-75 - you could fit the 85mm, 50 mm, 20mm, and 135mm in the main compartment, then put your 200 in the top compartment or in one of the foldawy side pouches.

entrefoto - I think the large model would be good for you. It's huge. I played with it in the store, and think it's a much better size for the amount of gear you're looking at carrying.

You can see a few additional pictures of the bags here (I forget where I found this link):

http://www.ea-bags.com/

[entrefoto]

I'd say you could comfortably fit 4 lenses in the main camera compartment, plus one on camera - depending on the size of the lenses. A 70-200 f/2.8 would fit in the top compartment, with a little room to spare for other stuff:

drive-75 - you could fit the 85mm, 50 mm, 20mm, and 135mm in the main compartment, then put your 200 in the top compartment or in one of the foldawy side pouches.

entrefoto - I think the large model would be good for you. It's huge. I played with it in the store, and think it's a much better size for the amount of gear you're looking at carrying.

You can see a few additional pictures of the bags here (I forget where I found this link):

http://www.ea-bags.com/

thanks for the link with the photos, it showed about the same amount of equipment i'm lookin to shove into the thing...although the large backpack is very costly. now i just need to find someone to purchase my expedition 5.

[wanderer488]

thanks for the review, I am considering it too - anyone know if they are sold in Canada ?

[zee2000]

Very nice topic, im so glad i found it! quiete useful! My question would be does anyone knows how well can it stand the weather like rain or snow? Besides how well is the air flowing on you back when you wearing it? How much stuff can you put in to the upper part [ like clotes]? I just recenly bought my 70-200 L lens to my 20D. Would it fit in when it's on it? Well thank you very much in advance! Greatings from Hungary- Zsolthttp://photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif
:)

[Skrim17]

That is a nice bag.What material is that and is it water resistant? I'm looking for a backpack that can get a little wet if need be.

I have found with this material there are various types of waterproofing sprays you can treat it with that will repel water, but you would need a bag over it for a drenching type of downpour or a canoe type adventure.

Do you know if National Geographic actually makes any money off this since their name is on it and it is a pretty penny?

[lmitch6]

The 70-200 would fit in the main compartment mounted. It might be a little tight, but that lens is tight in most all bags. The amount of airflow is dependent on how tight I have the straps. While on trail, I have them cinched tight, so there is some sweat.

Like Skrim said, you could treat it yourself for water/stain resistance, but a good garbage bag should be handy for a downpour.

As it goes, A lot of National Geographic shooters designed the gear, and Bogen is marketing it for them, so yes they are making money off of the deal. But pricewise, I think the bags are on par to the competition.

[zee2000]

First of all thanks for both of you! Well in one of the hungarian websites says this bag is manufactured by manfrotto but i have not find any sign of it on their site...But about National Geographic i've read the same just like lmitch6 wrote. By the way i would love it in black or olive or in braun color :)

[lmitch6]

Zee, no problem! You may want to check the bogen/manfrotto USA page also (http://www.bogenimaging.us).

Regarding the top compartment, you could fit enough for a dayhike in there, stuff like a first aid kit, snacks, maybe a light sweater/windbreaker. In one of the shots I posted, there's a pic of the top compartment with the 50mm f/1.4 inside, to get an idea of the scale.

[SpiltPickle]

Hey I just got one of these bags too. Your review helped a lot, plus I already had their Medium shoulder bag which I loved. Yet to be able to take it out on a hike though, as the weather's been bad on the weekends here.

I'm carrying my 20d with 17-55 and hood in the middle of the bottom compartment, the 70-200 to the side of that, and the 50mm f/1.8 in the corner. I carry the 580ex flash and the sigma 105mm macro in the top compartment. Look like it'll work well. Just need to find a way to stuff the ef-s 10-22 in there when I get it...

[lmitch6]

Hey I just got one of these bags too. Your review helped a lot, plus I already had their Medium shoulder bag which I loved. Yet to be able to take it out on a hike though, as the weather's been bad on the weekends here.

I'm carrying my 20d with 17-55 and hood in the middle of the bottom compartment, the 70-200 to the side of that, and the 50mm f/1.8 in the corner. I carry the 580ex flash and the sigma 105mm macro in the top compartment. Look like it'll work well. Just need to find a way to stuff the ef-s 10-22 in there when I get it...

Glad I could help! How do you like the Medium Shoulder Bag? Any comments and/or pics would really be appreciated! I'm in the market for a shoulder bag at the moment.

[SpiltPickle]

I'll try to write something up and get some pics tonight for you.

[JaGWiRE]

Anybody else hate the color of it? Just looks.. so national graohpciey, haha.

[lmitch6]

Anybody else hate the color of it? Just looks.. so national graohpciey, haha.


The color was one of the biggest selling points for me. I din't want black, as to me that's a universal indicator of "I have something that could be expensive inside". The fabric itself is great too. It's soft and pliable, which make carrying and working out of it very easy.

[lmitch6]

I'll try to write something up and get some pics tonight for you.


That'll be great. Looking forward to it!

[JaGWiRE]

The color was one of the biggest selling points for me. I din't want black, as to me that's a universal indicator of "I have something that could be expensive inside". The fabric itself is great too. It's soft and pliable, which make carrying and working out of it very easy.


Heh. I would disagree. I think black is the universal color for bags more or less, and that a black backpack could have nothing in it, while this backpack is much rarer and something some enthusiast would carry to look like he's cool, :D.

Overall, I'm sure it's a nice bag. I'm pretty happy with my mini trekker aw as I'm a little guy (5'1 or so) and find when the bags get too big, I sacrifice back support and begin hvaing back pain.

[SpiltPickle]

Hey it's a cotton / hemp mixture, hemp, is from a brother of marijuana :)
industrial hemp cannot be commercially grown in the United States because it is erroneously confounded with marijuana. In fact, industrial hemp and marijuana are different breeds of Cannabis sativa. Smoking large amounts of hemp flowers can produce a headache but not a high!

[ed.]

Now you got me thinking about getting rod of my mini trekker for this LOL.
Is it as well padded as the mini trekker?

[JaGWiRE]

Now you got me thinking about getting rod of my mini trekker for this LOL.
Is it as well padded as the mini trekker?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks more like a hiking and serious travelling (lots of planes and stuff) bag, and much bigger then the mini trekker.

[lmitch6]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks more like a hiking and serious travelling (lots of planes and stuff) bag, and much bigger then the mini trekker.

It's definitely a dual use bag, both travel/hiking and photography. The camera section can be removed and the whole bag can be used as a travel pack. the upper section will hold all your gear for a serious day hike (first aid, rain gear, maps, food, etc), and all the various clips and hooks can be used to hang gear off of.

[ed.]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks more like a hiking and serious travelling (lots of planes and stuff) bag, and much bigger then the mini trekker.
Yeah I think it is bigger.
I like the idea I can put a jumper or snacks in a seperate compartment from the rest.

[SpiltPickle]

Whew. Ok. Here's the info on the medium shoulder bag:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2144016#post2144016

That's the most I've type in a while!

[Az2Africa]

I just returned from Botswana and used the medium Natl. Geographic backpack. I can't imagine ever going without it. It's as close to prefect for Safari use as it gets.

[condyk]

My only worry is that others on Safari with me may assume that I was a Pro working for National Geographic if I was to carry this bag. I wonder do they have one in yellow with MacDonalds embroidered on the flap instead?

[Az2Africa]

My only worry is that others on Safari with me may assume that I was a Pro working for National Geographic if I was to carry this bag. I wonder do they have one in yellow with MacDonalds embroidered on the flap instead?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[SpiltPickle]

Maybe you'd be able to pick up some of those groupies that we all know flock to NG photographers? :P

hehe.. hey, I can hope. :(

[Francis M. Ombrello]

Thanks for the thread on this backpack. I ordered one - which I should receive today. I'm looking for a general purpose camera / notebook computer bag that will house my camera and processing gear for field use. Hopefully this will fill the bill.

[lmitch6]

Thanks for the thread on this backpack. I ordered one - which I should receive today. I'm looking for a general purpose camera / notebook computer bag that will house my camera and processing gear for field use. Hopefully this will fill the bill.


The more I use mine, the more I swear by it. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine! If you need any more help in getting acquainted with it, feel free to let me know!

[SpiltPickle]

After having mine for a while, the only 'concern' I have is that carrying the 20d with the 17-55 on it takes up most of the center space. I only have a small slot below it where I store my remote release or something of that size. Then on the pocket created below the right grip of the camera I store the 50mm, that leaves the right side for the 70-200 (which takes up that whole side) and leaves no where for my 105mm or my soon to come 10-22, except in lens cases in the top area... Hmm... I gotta get creative with my velcro I guess...

[SpiltPickle]

p.s. don't you find those little frilly things on the brass d-rings on the shoulder straps a tad bit annoying when they flop around, or is it just me?

Are they there for a reason I'm unaware of? :)

[lmitch6]

Split,

I can see what you mean with larger lenses, a little 'velcro creativity' is in order!

Those frilly things are useful. Make sure they're positioned between where the fabric of the strap meets the brass of the buckle. When you want to loosen the straps, pull on the frilly thing and they'll loosen in a flash. The ones on the 'empty' d-rings are just decoration.

[Crash758]

Has anyone here used/seen the larger backpack? Just curious as to what you thought when you were looking at it. I dont really have any camera shops near me, and then one I did stop into didnt have any in stock.

Thanks for your help.
Mike

[vkalia]

I've looked at the larger backpack. It is fairly big and appears to be well made when it comes to seams, stitching, etc.

The main appeal for me was a pack which could combine camera gear and "other stuff" - unfortunately, the space for the "other stuff" was not large enough for me. And while I do like the look'n'feel of the bag, I need something a little bit more water-resistant. And so the bag stayed on the shelf.

Vandit

[lmitch6]

I'll agree with vkalia on the larger backpack. I too wanted something that could both camera and day-hiking gear. The larger one has less capacity for non-camera related gear, and it's huge in comparison to the medium bag. But, if you have a large kit, or hefty sized lenses, it may work better for you than the medium one.

[Crash758]

Ok, thanks for the input. I guess I really need to see it in person before I make up my mind. What do you all think about spraying the outer layer with some type of water repellent or silicone spray to help keep the water out? Just a thought.

Mike

[lmitch6]

Crash, what type of environments do you plan on using the bag in? I'd say it's plenty fine for the majority of uses. You can always keep a garbage bag stuffed somewhere if you're expecting a heavy downpour. But I guess a spray on protectant wouldn't hurt, either.

[Crash758]

I hike in all kinds of weather... Mostly in Maine and PA. I only use a Mini-Trekker right now, but I carry a 5d with a 15mm fish, 17-40, 24-70, 70-200 and 400 5.6 along with a flash, filters, rocket blower, batteries, etc. I usually just carry my tripod in my arms. I am not sure the smaller bag will fit all that in (although, like I said I fit it all in the Mini). I am not too concerned about the water repellent, but it was just an idea if that became a concern.

[lmitch6]

I'm from Ohio originally, so I know how the weather can turn on ya! :).

[wanderer488]

Since I got the 70-200 2.8 IS i am looking for a new bag because my present bag has to stretch to fit.

Would this bag fit a 70-200 2.8 IS without hood with a 5D attached ??

Do you have access to the lower compartment via the top or is the only access through the front ?

Thanks in advance

[SpiltPickle]

Since I got the 70-200 2.8 IS i am looking for a new bag because my present bag has to stretch to fit.

Would this bag fit a 70-200 2.8 IS without hood with a 5D attached ??

Do you have access to the lower compartment via the top or is the only access through the front ?

Thanks in advance

Access to the bottom is only from the front. Now there is a zip in divider between the top and bottom that can be removed, but it wouldn't be convenient to access the camera gear, only if you want to use it more as a backpack for clothes and things I think.

my 70-200 2.8 is with 20d attached just fits.

[strizh]

i'm vary sad. (((

i've just received this backpack.

i like it very much, it looks very cute, but....

i can't fit my 17'' powerbook, and !!! i can't fit also my friends 15'' powerbook....

so, i think, this backpack can be used only with NOT WIDESCREEN laptops... ((((((

[lmitch6]

strizh,

Sorry about your situation, that compartment is small. I'd say it could only fit smaller laptops (12"-13" screen).

I don't carry a laptop in the field, but I do use it to carry maps/papers and my EZ-balance.

[strizh]

lmitch6,

agree with you about "I don't carry a laptop in the field"...
but i want to have universal backpack for different situation...

now im lookin for TAMRAC Adventure 9...
but im still crying about this cute, "old school" looking NG backpack...

[SpiltPickle]

yup, my 15.4" sony doesn't fit.

I too have a tamrac adventure 9. It's my carry everything bag, and weighs a flippin ton when everything is in it, but it does all fit.

When I'm going hiking I grab the NG as I'm just carrying camera gear, first aid kit and some snacks / water.

For just camera gear, I might grab the canon back back though as its a little smaller.

[bxntrk]

I'm new here and this is my first post. I actually came across this forum in my search for a camera daypack, and I'm considering the NG medium pack. I'd appreciate any advice ya'll could provide.

I need something for vacation touring that will carry my dSLR, a few accessories and a little JVC video camera. The interenation airline regs are usually one checked bag and one carryon, plus a purse. (I like being a girl!)

When I went to Australia last year, I used a luggage-type carryon, and a large sling-type tote. In the carryon, I put my cameras and DVD burner, and other miscellaneous electronics that I'd need for the trip, as well as a change of clothes, etc., for the duration of the flight. While I was in-country, I used the sling-bag as my everyday tote to carry my vid-cam, maps, snacks, water, passport, money, etc.

I'm really wanting something like a backpack, though, that would be more comfortable to carry. I would also like to be able to access my equipment more easily.

Do you think I could get away with calling this a "purse" at the airline check-in? I've looked at the Lowepro Orion II and it would be an approriate size, but it doesn't have the front access to the equipment area. This NG pack's specs indicate it's about the same size.

Would you say it's more like a daypack or a backpack?

Thanks for your help.

[tjrenegade]

Not sure what the diffrence is between a backpack and a day pack....my guess it would fall under the daypack rule. I find this a very comfortble backpack to use and I will be using it as a carryone next month but my regular bag will be checked (cloths and stuff).
I doubt by its size it would be considered a purse but you would have to check with the airline about that.

It really is a great bag, good for travel since it doesn't scream "camera equipment please steal me..."

[bxntrk]

Not sure what the diffrence is between a backpack and a day pack....

I think of a daypack as something like a book-bag. Whereas a backpack is the thing I took to Europe when I was younger and I lived out of it for 3 months. Maybe there's not clear distinction.

Thanks.

[tjrenegade]

Then I would defiantly say its a daypack....its simialr size to what I used in HS to carry books.

[bxntrk]

I really appreciate having found this thread. I just ordered the bag from Adorama.

[lmitch6]

I really appreciate having found this thread. I just ordered the bag from Adorama.

It's a great bag, you'll love it. It's definitely one of the best bag purchases I've ever made :)

[evilmichael]

National Geographic NG-5737 Earth Explorer Large Backpack?? Costs $100 more.

[lmitch6]

Michael,

The large version is huge, can hold more camera gear, but less 'other' gear, i.e. the stuff you'd want with you on a day-hike.

[Jay12329]

Is the large bag too big to be used as carry on luggage for flying?
I like the medium but want to carry my 15.4 powerbook.
And does anyone know any UK reserllers?
J

[bxntrk]

The pack came yesterday and I love it. I'll use it soon when I travel, and will let you know how it goes. The pictures in the online ads just don't do it justice. I appreciate the pictures that were posted here. For instance, in the online ads you really can't even tell there are pockets for water bottles on the sides.

Now that I've seen the real thing, I realize there are lots of loops, etc. for strapping things on and lots of extra pockets and places to stow things. Bless their hearts, there even seems to be pockets that are about right to hold film cans!

Anyway, thanks again for your opinions.

[purelithium]

This thread has convinced me to sell my Crumpler laptop bag and my Lowepro Stealth Reporter 100, and replace them both with this bag.

[lmitch6]

It's easily one of my best camea related purchases. Hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine!

[stevefin]

I had to post this even though I'm not a Canon user:shock: But I was doing some research into this pack and appreciated Imitch6's excellent review.
I received the pack and it was perfect in every way except one:
The side zip for the laptop compartment was, very frustratingly, about 1/2 inch too short for my 15.4 " MacBook Pro. (To give you an idea of scale - the 15.4" MacBook Pro is 14.1" wide X 9.6" deep X 1" thick). However - this was the only bag I found that came anywhere near being perfect for my purposes - so I decided to do what the designers should have done in the first place. That is carefully unpick the stiching of the lining at the back of the main compartment (there is a very small ridge of sewn lining at the rear of the compartment) and eventually opened up the laptop compartment from the top and inside the main compartment of the pack. I then easily inserted a semi rigid padded laptop sleeve from another pack (for extra padding) and now the laptop slides in as smooth as you like! I can still use the side zip to insert magazines/ maps etc and now it's perfect for my needs (still undecided about the NG logo though:rolleyes:)
I know you shouldn't have to tamper with a new and expensive bag but this has produced the nearest thing to the perfect camera/ laptop combo for me - inconspicuous, air portable and with more pockets than Mr Pocket from Pocketsville, Pocketland!

[bxntrk]

I had to post this even though I'm not a Canon user:shock: . . .

Shame-fer-shame!
(But I confess, I'm also not a Canon user. :o )

But I did really appreciate lmitch6's review and pictures. I hope ya'll aren't too put out about my Nikon-ness.

Thanks again for your help.

[purelithium]

Irregardless whether you are a Canon or Nikon user, these forums are a fantastic resource for ANY Digital Photographer, and I would recommend it to anyone needing help with their photography.

My bag is on the way, and I can't wait to slap my 300D and MacBook in it!

[lmitch6]

stevefin, bxntrk - welcome to POTN! It doesn't matter that you use Nikon, as purelithium said, this place is a great resource for ANY photographer!

I hope you all enjoy your bags as much as I do mine. I probably need to update the pics, since my gear has changed so much since my original review. I may get around to it.

[purelithium]

I just got mine, and this thing is perfect for what I want to do. LOTS of pockets and it holds all my kit with room to spare.

I'll take some pictures and post them tonight with an in depth review.

[Crash758]

I just got the large backpack, and yes it is big. But, just perfect for what I want/need. And the quality is awesome.

[3Honu]

I have the Dynatran CF 994 tripod. Will it hold this one fine?

[Gidi Morris]

stevefin, bxntrk - welcome to POTN! It doesn't matter that you use Nikon, as purelithium said, this place is a great resource for ANY photographer!

I hope you all enjoy your bags as much as I do mine. I probably need to update the pics, since my gear has changed so much since my original review. I may get around to it.

Plus, after spending a few weeks here, I foresee a lengthy sale-of (nikon) and then a lengthy purchase-of (canon) new equipment :D

[The Limey]

looks like something you would have carried in the first world war i'll pass on that and keep my high tech 103 and bugger anyone knowing what i am carrying
Graham

[crc_408]

I bought this backpack and took it to Las Vegas this past weekend. It worked perfectly. I was able to bring my camera gear that I thought I'd need, and a Vaio laptop on the plane. I did remove the laptop while walking around. It was comfortable on my back and the shoulder straps didn't pinch.

The main compartment had the 20D w/ 24-70, the 10-22, and 550ex with omnibounce attached. The batteries and other stuff was stored in the front pockets.

The top compartment was filled with snacks and other things for the flight, and the hide-able bottle holders on the side are a nice touch.

Thanks all for your input!

[BBrat]

is this size safe as a carry on for flying? looks like a nice bag hope it fits flying requirements?

[Dleon]

Been going back and forth between the medium and the large pack. Taking a large backpack to Vietnam this summer. Looking for a backpack for the camera, video camera and stuff that won't fit in the other backpack. Just wondering if the large NG bag is too big to carry on and to be treking around the streets of Vietnam.

[350D_Noob]

I might have to get this bag. :confused:

[lostdoggy]

So far nobody has answer the question "...is this bag carry-on friendly?..."

[3Honu]

I'd also like to see how the tripods fit on there.

[bxntrk]

So far nobody has answer the question "...is this bag carry-on friendly?..."

I haven't taken it on a plane yet, but I will in April. But I fully expect that it will be acceptable. It's no bigger than other napsack-type bags people currently carry on.

When I get back from Peru, I'll let you know for sure.

Patti

p.s. I'm taking about the medium bag.

[labbai]

I've been thinking of buying the Think Tank Airport Acceleration backbag, it's about the same size but cost's about €120 more. Thanks to this thread I think i'll purchase the NG backbag. It fits on aeroplanes and I can get all the stuff I need with me. It's nice to travel with all your "goodies" with you, instead of waiting your luggage at airports. I think this backbag is for those who like to travel light. :D

[labbai]

:oops: Oops, I did it again! Just ordered a NG backbag from http://www.cyberphoto.fi/index_fi.php :rolleyes: Costs €172... It's in Finnish, but you'll see the picture :confused: Had to buy an Ee-D Grid Focusing Screen for my 5D to shoot with my peleng... :lol: Nothing comes cheap! I needed that Focusing Screen anyway...

[Weasel™]

I had to post this even though I'm not a Canon user:shock: But I was doing some research into this pack and appreciated Imitch6's excellent review.
I received the pack and it was perfect in every way except one:
The side zip for the laptop compartment was, very frustratingly, about 1/2 inch too short for my 15.4 " MacBook Pro. (To give you an idea of scale - the 15.4" MacBook Pro is 14.1" wide X 9.6" deep X 1" thick). However - this was the only bag I found that came anywhere near being perfect for my purposes - so I decided to do what the designers should have done in the first place. That is carefully unpick the stiching of the lining at the back of the main compartment (there is a very small ridge of sewn lining at the rear of the compartment) and eventually opened up the laptop compartment from the top and inside the main compartment of the pack. I then easily inserted a semi rigid padded laptop sleeve from another pack (for extra padding) and now the laptop slides in as smooth as you like! I can still use the side zip to insert magazines/ maps etc and now it's perfect for my needs (still undecided about the NG logo though:rolleyes:)
I know you shouldn't have to tamper with a new and expensive bag but this has produced the nearest thing to the perfect camera/ laptop combo for me - inconspicuous, air portable and with more pockets than Mr Pocket from Pocketsville, Pocketland!

Could you maybe post some pictures for this?

Thanks
Kay

[CanonItalia]

I love this bag! I use it all the time for when I travel from Italy to the states and vice-versa, to answer your questions, yes it is carry-on acceptable. I store My digital-slr body with 28-300mm lens attached, film-slr body, 65mm macro, 17-40mm, and external flash in the padded compartment with just a slight bit of room to spare under the flash where I generally stick a few filters in their protective cases to fill the gap. The laptop compartment is pretty small, but luckily my travel laptop is a small 12" widescreen that fits in perfectly. I love this bag and will swear by it!

[Aali]

I had to post this even though I'm not a Canon user:shock: But I was doing some research into this pack and appreciated Imitch6's excellent review.
I received the pack and it was perfect in every way except one:
The side zip for the laptop compartment was, very frustratingly, about 1/2 inch too short for my 15.4 " MacBook Pro. (To give you an idea of scale - the 15.4" MacBook Pro is 14.1" wide X 9.6" deep X 1" thick). However - this was the only bag I found that came anywhere near being perfect for my purposes - so I decided to do what the designers should have done in the first place. That is carefully unpick the stiching of the lining at the back of the main compartment (there is a very small ridge of sewn lining at the rear of the compartment) and eventually opened up the laptop compartment from the top and inside the main compartment of the pack. I then easily inserted a semi rigid padded laptop sleeve from another pack (for extra padding) and now the laptop slides in as smooth as you like! I can still use the side zip to insert magazines/ maps etc and now it's perfect for my needs (still undecided about the NG logo though:rolleyes:)
I know you shouldn't have to tamper with a new and expensive bag but this has produced the nearest thing to the perfect camera/ laptop combo for me - inconspicuous, air portable and with more pockets than Mr Pocket from Pocketsville, Pocketland!

Could you maybe post some pictures for this?

Thanks
Kay

I would also be very interested in seeing how this really was done, any chance of pictures stevefin?

[purelithium]

I doubt he'll be back to post pics. He said he's a Nikon user, so I doubt he hangs out here often.

I would just like to know what laptop sleeve he popped in there...

[ernst_blofeld]

Thanks for the great info about the bag lmitch!

Does this thing come with a built-in rain cover?

I found this picture of the bag with a rain cover on it: http://www.ea-bags.com/images1/NG-5737-RC.jpg

The cover is also mentioned on the campaign site (more info, page 4): http://www.supporthexperience.com/

[purelithium]

Ernst, the pack in the picture you posted was the NG5737, the Large Backpack. The Medium is the NG5162.

Only the Small and Large Backpacks come with integrated rain covers. If you read Imitch's reviews, he says that he uses a garbage bag as a rain cover.

I guarantee you'll love the bag. I love mine. I'm thinking of buying a Large for hiking, and keeping this one for day trips ;) I've got NG-Bag fever :lol:

[3Honu]

I will be purchasing this bag tomorrow. However, I just don't know what size to get. I have a 30D with three lenses. I'd like this bag for day hikes. Thoughts?

[purelithium]

OCPickle, what lenses specifically, and do you need room for expansion, or will you stick with your current setup for a while?

[3Honu]

Purelithium, Sigma 10-20, Canon 35-105, Nifty 50, I also have a Canon 75-300 but it isn't working right now. I don't have the funds right now to expand but I hope to gete at least one more lens by the end of the year. I would like to grow with my pack but I expect it just be for dayhikes and camping trips with the family

[purelithium]

I expect the Medium would be perfect for you. If you organize your dividers well enough, you'll have plenty of room to expand in the future. Plus if you want, you can get a domke insert and then use the upper compartment for lenses and stuff too.

EDIT: I fit my 300D with grip and 17-70mm attached, Nifty 50, Sigma 55-200, and the 430EX in just the camera compartment, with room for 2 more lenses if I move the flash.

[3Honu]

So all this gear fits in just the photo compartment? How much space is left over in the other compartment?

[purelithium]

Well to give a sense of how much room is in the top compartment, it could probably fit something a little smaller than a car battery in there. Not that I ever would put something that heavy or large in there, but you get the picture. Whatever you could fit within that space is up to how you pack and what it is ;)

[3Honu]

That helps a lot. I was planning on ordering it tomorrow...however, I think I will go to Samy's camera instead to get a looksee for myself. Thank you PL and good luck on the military thing (read your blog post)

[lmitch6]

OC, the medium would work best for your current kit. The camera compartment will hold all the gear, leaving the upper compartment for day-hiking stuff. Enjoy the bag, it's a winner!

[purelithium]

Haha thanks OC!

[TheGreatOg]

I'm loving my NG Medium pack. I've used it on portrait shoots, to arena football games and hiking through the woods. There's plenty of space inside for one body plus accoutrements. I carry my second body in there as well, but then I'm throwing some extra gear up top (usually flash & grip). I put a patch over the logo because I'm taking my bag to London for 2 weeks this saturday and want to be less of a target for thieves. I've had nothing break or go on my bag despite a steady beating. Thanks for the recommendation Purelithium, it was your review that prompted me to by this bag. No regrets. ;)

[purelithium]

Becky, glad you love your bag as much as the rest of us ;)

I'm going to sew some Velcro over top of the NG logo, so it'll look more military, and slap one of my Velcro uniform nametapes over top of it. Then hopefully I won't look like a nerd carrying around a bag, making people think I'm with National Geographic haha.

Love the shot of your bag, BTW!! :)

[3Honu]

I ended up buying it without going to Samys. Should be here from BH by the 7th.

[AlexFromEurope]

There 's is one very important question for me. Is the medium backpack large enough to carry my camera (30D) with battery grip attached?

Thanks

Alex

[purelithium]

Yes. I do this with my 300D all the time, and your 30D won't be too different, I don't think

[AlexFromEurope]

Do I need to detach my EF-S 17-85 Lens from the camera to put it into the bag? This was the reason for me not to buy a crumpler backpack.

[lmitch6]

Do I need to detach my EF-S 17-85 Lens from the camera to put it into the bag? This was the reason for me not to buy a crumpler backpack.

Alex,

You shouldn't have to do that at all.It should fit just fine.

[TheGreatOg]

I'm writing from London right now, and I'm using my bag every day. I keep my 17-85 lens attached all the time. My NG bag has held up par excellence. My only concern is this. It's rained every single freaking day here. :rolleyes: :D I expected as much, being England and all. No leaks or anything with the bag despite the soakings. But my bag has a musty/musky smell that I have no idea how to get rid of. I realize it's from getting wet and drying so many times. But short of a perfume soak, what should I do? I'm not home again until Saturday, so ideas that are practical while in London would be very useful. Thanks!

[purelithium]

Take it to a launder-o-mat?

If that worries you, then take an evening and hand wash it with some detergent, and let it air dry.

[fundabug]

Before I saw this thread I didn't even know National Geographic made camera backpacks. I read every single page of this and looked closely at all the pics. After doing some research of my own, I knew I needed the medium backpack. Well, I didn't REALLY need it, but after looking at it for a few hours I had to have it. Ordered it yesterday! Sometimes I wish I never found this forum, you guys make me spend WAY too much $$$$$$$! Thanks anyway!;)

[3Honu]

I am in Kaua'i on vacation right now. I am really liking the backpack as I tool around the island. I will give more impressions later

[fundabug]

Just got my Medium National Geographic backpack today and so far I really like it. Looks good, lots of padding, but as a backpacker....this pack is old school gear. I knew it when I bought it, so I'm not upset by any means! I kinda like the old ring style strap tension retainers, but they're a little slow for dropping and fitting up the pack quickly. It doesn't look the least bit water resistant, but I got that covered with Sea to Summit ultralight drybags when needed. No waist belt for taking weight off your shoulders...that might get a little annoying on a long day hike, but tolerable. I put a big re-usable desicant pack in the camera compartment to soak up any moisture that finds it's way in. Overall, I like the packs looks, padding, and quality, but I'm not sure that it's worth the $$$$$ they ask for it. I'm a backpacker, so this pack WILL BE USED in the back country for photo day hikes, so I'll find out soon enough if this pack is worth the $$$.

[purelithium]

fundabug: Great that you like the bag. I'm just wondering if you may have liked the Large bag better for what you will be using it for. The Large has a larger camera compartment, more pockets, but also a great padded belt, with some small pockets on it.

[Az2Africa]

There 's is one very important question for me. Is the medium backpack large enough to carry my camera (30D) with battery grip attached?

Thanks

Alex

I mentioned much earlier in this thread that when I go to Africa I carry almost all the gear in the camera/lens section of my signature plus cards, chargers, 580EX and an Epson P2000 and some magazines in the laptop section.:)

[fundabug]

fundabug: Great that you like the bag. I'm just wondering if you may have liked the Large bag better for what you will be using it for. The Large has a larger camera compartment, more pockets, but also a great padded belt, with some small pockets on it.

For day hikes and photo outings this bag seems like it could take care of things. I don't have a great deal of camera gear that I would take with me outdoors...camera, tripod, a couple of lenses, and other stuff. For longer trips....well I have about five different backpacks for varied trips that I think I can cram my camera in if I really wanted to take it. I take a couple of long backpacking trips a year where weight is a BIG issue and the camera doesn't come with me....as much as I would want to bring it along , but SLR is just too much gear. I have an ultralight backapacking rig for any trip over 75 miles (give or take a couple of miles) and an SLR camera with other gear simply will not fit and I really don't want to carry it 100 miles. As for the large NG pack....that would be too big for day hikes and for longer trips I just don't think it's made for that. It just doesn't seem like it would be comfortable enough. Any backpacker can tell you that the old school gear made of cotton and tension rings is just not going to cut it for long haul comfort. It's gonna get wet and it's gonna get heavy. For long trips I'll have to stick with synthetic fiber backpacks that are made for that kind of thing. However, I still like the medium pack for a day hiker and I'm pleased with the quality....not to mention, It just looks plain good! For canoe and kayaking trips I have a nice waterproof Pelican Case, but I haven't had it long enough to use it yet.....so the jury's still out on that one.

[shockeyj]

I made way over to B&H this afternoon to check the Crumpler backpacks against the NG bag. I really liked the touch of the material and all the pockets that would be easily accessible to my books, note pads and pens while on the plane of travelling when I have time to relax. Seeing and touching and holding this bag really convinced me to get this one over the Crumpler. Things are accesible and you can still pack your equipment in it. Crumpler bags don't have that many pockets for the little things one will need while getting to a destination.

I didn't buy it yet because I'm still contemplating space for everything. Does anyone have a photo of how an attached tri-pod to the bag might look and how did you do it? Also do you know the cubic inches of space in the upper and lower comparments? I have the LowePro AW Rover and one think I don't like about this bag is that the Velcro divider between the upper and lower will often come apart. I like the zipper in the NG backpack.

I could see in a soaking rain the material possibly becoming musty as some have said in this thread and if I purchase it I will waterproof it some sort of spray as well as a plastic bag as some have suggested. www.johnshockey.net

[fundabug]

The pack comes with extra straps so you can attach your tripod to the side or bottom. Sorry, haven't taken a pic of the pack with my tripod on it. I drive a Jeep Wrangler and when it's warm I drive with the top down and the doors off. I drive country roads too and from work each day and on nice evenings I have several side routes down little one lane country roads to stretch the ride out a little longer. Of course I don't leave my camera pack in it unattended, but I've figured out how to strap it to my passenger seat so when I see a nice shot I just pull over and unzip the camera compartment, hop out and take a few shots. When I'm done I just put it back in and off I go. I really am happy with this pack because it looks good and carries everything I need for the day. Best part is...I've had several compliments on this pack and no one even knows there's several thousand dollars worth of gear in it since it doesn't scream "Expensive Canon Camera Gear Free For the Taking!".

[3Honu]

Not too good of a shot. Me on the left. Tripod is a Dynatran CF 994

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2168/pict5779vj4.jpg

[shockeyj]

Thanks for the information. The extra straps must be what I see in the promo shots for this bag.

OCpickle,
How long did you walk in this picture? Was the bag comfortable the whole hike? Do you ever say I wish I had a waist belt to lift some of the weight off my shoulders? I'll be taking day hikes in the Alps this Summer and especially concerned about comfort.

[3Honu]

We had little ones with us on that hike. It wasn't more than a mile. I used it a lot though. I can't say I would recommend it for extensive hikes, but I haven't tried that yet. I am hoping to do a 5 mile hike in July.

[Eoghan]

After reading the review of this bag i decided to purchase it from www.warehouseexpress.co.uk (http://www.warehouseexpress.co.uk). Just received it this morning.

first impressions are spot on. the camera compartment looks like it will hold my gear. the compartment on top looks big enough to stash quite a bit.

its going to get its first test when i take it to the war and peace show at the middle of july. i'll give a writeup in august when i get back to a PC.

on a side note: my medium backpack did not come with a rain cover. although its not mentioned in the description of the bag on warehouseexpress there are other sites that suggests it does... could someone suggest a good waterproofing agent available in the UK?

thanks

Eoghan

[DDA]

Very interesting review

Will the medium one hold a 350D with grip with a 100-400 attached? Or will a large one do it?

[fundabug]

I just got home from a 3500 mile 10 day trip from Kentucky to Houston......then to New Mexico and on to Colorado....and of course back to Kentucky. On the way back we came through South Eastern Kansas and Missouri, which have been very wet and humid. I drive Jeep and keep the top down and the doors off as much as possible. I carried my gear in the medium National Geographic pack and I'm very happy with the results. It made a great pack to jump out and hike around with and not only did it hold all my camera gear, but it held some extra crap as well. However, my laptop didn't fit very well so I just left it out and kept it in my duffel bag. Also, it made a nice buffer when I left my cool hotel room and went out into the hot humid air. It would slowly warm the camera up without getting condensation on my glass......a huge plus for those in humid climates. Driving across country in a soft top Jeep doesn't leave much for security and this pack is easy to throw on your shoulder when you stop to look around. I took this pack in every gas station, hotel, tourist attraction, and rest area with me. I never had to leave my gear unattended. Great pack!!!

[bxntrk]

Got back from Peru and Equador a couple weeks ago. The NG medium pack worked like a charm. It's really compfortable to carry, even fully loaded.

As to the airline limitation question: the only flack I got was from Delta in Quito, on my return flight. I had a carry-on duffle and this pack. The desk agen questioned me and I insisted it was 1 carry-on and 1 purse! She was skeptical, but let me go. Then in the gate waiting area there were several men in business suits with both a rolling suitcase and briefcases! I wonder if they had to claim one as a "purse?"

Patti

[hometownhockeyfan]

I have the similar question as DDA...does anyone know if a 100-400 lens with the body attached will fit in this bag?

Thanks...David

[asuh]

I just received the backpack today. I gotta say, it's way better (imo) than the Lowepro I was planning on getting. The photography compartment was a little smaller than expected, but for what I do, it's perfectly fine. I took a picture of the photography compartment with my gear and one with a tripod strapped to the side of the backpack. I actually prefer it strapped to the side than on the bottom.

30D w/ 24-105 mounted and reversed hood, 70-200 2.8 w/ reversed hood, battery grip, and 430 ex
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e51/AlbertSuh/IMG_1724.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e51/AlbertSuh/IMG_1727.jpg

[lmitch6]

Asuh,

Congrats! I still love mine (I'm the OP on this thread). You may want to try moving the tripod to the bottom of the bag. I find the weight is much more balanced there.

Enjoy it!

[asuh]

Yeah, I tried both and preferred it on the side. I'm going to see if I can somehow strap the tripod on the back of the backpack using the three metal rings. That would be ideal, at least for me. I'm looking forward to taking my new bag on my China trip next week, although I might have to purchase a rain bag since the forecast calls for thunderstorms.

[DDA]

Asuh, which size did you buy? If I remember well, there are different sizes. This one is definitely too small to have a 100-400 attached on a body+grip :-(

[asuh]

I have the medium version. I tried fitting the 30d with 70-200 2.8 mounted, but it was too much of a stretch. Doesn't really bother me. I use the 24-105 most of the time anyways.

[sito]

Some of you have said that you can fit a DSLR with its battery grip attatched. Could you provide the exact height of this combo (camera+grip)? And could you say how much the camera protrudes when zipping the cover? I can see in the last picture that the 20D and its battery brip BG-E2 are not attatched to each other.

[ChristopherPGrant]

Though it won't be for another 2-4 weeks, I'll be purchasing both the
medium and large backpacks. I have a photojournalist setup, 2 (digi)
Canon SLRs with portrait grips, one 17-40 and one 70-200. I'll occasionally
carry a 50 and 300. I'll try and post some pics and thoughts about this
before taking a trip overseas. Upon returning (sometime in late sept)
I'll also write up about using the bag (medium) on planes. Stay tuned...

**** UPDATE (SAT, AUG 18 )
Medium Bag purchased today, going through it now. If you need/want a
specific question answered mention it here and I'll try and get to it when
I post the initial pics tomorrow.

[3Honu]

<---- staying tuned