Get a 1Ds now or wait for photokina?

[kriskent]

my dealer called me and giving me a 12 months zero interest plan via personal checks issuance on a brand new 1Ds Mark II in the amount of $ 7,500.00. Here in the philippines it is worth Pesos 400,000.00.

Should i get this, (with a very enticing payment scheme) or wait for the announcement at photokina?

please advise

[liza]

Why wait? There's always going to be something new and improved on the horizon. Get what you need (or want) now and start shooting.

[theflyingkiwi]

If my dealer knew who I was and knew that I had money and offered me something like that then, I couldn't care about what comes in a few months time. I buy it and then worry about repaying it :)

[kriskent]

so meaning, if you were in my shoes, you'll bite the bullet?

12months is really attractive though

:)

[nation]

Given it's a 1DS I would wait. I agree with Liz that by not buying now you'll be playing a waiting game, however, the current 1DS technology has been around for a while now and I think it's due for some major improvements in its next version not just basic tweaks.

[theflyingkiwi]

I somehow don't think that canon will make big improvements in the next 1Ds series camera. Granted the camera was released 2 years ago, but the big difference between the 20D and 30D are signs that they aren't going to make a big change.

The thing to keep in mind is glass. Because the CMOS sensor is out doing the resolution in the glass. This means that if you have cheap glass you will see in the photos. This even happened with the first 1Ds canon did.

But the real question is do you need such a camera? or do you need full frame? and if the answer is no then you have found your answer. It may be a good deal but no point in spending money on stuff you don't need. And I can see from your sig you already got some nice bodys already.

[calicokat]

The new camera will probably follow the others in the minor tweak categories. I predict a 1DSMIIN with the same 16.7 mp sensor, it will offer picture styles and a 2.5" LCD. Maybe a little faster. But overall, nothing major to upgrade. Who is giving Canon a run for their money in this market..............so why should Canon make major upgrades, they are already so far in front of N*(#)$

[GyRob]

if you have a camera that does the job now - i would waite, im hope after 2 yrs CANON will be able to make some great leaps in this camera.then i will get one.
Rob.

[nancypics]

It's such a tough call. Waiting could be advantageous, but on the other hand if you wait for the perfect scenario, you could be waiting a long time, rather than taking pictures...

[Doom1701e]

Just do it, i hear it is a great camera as it is. An upgraded model at photokina wont make this camera any less of a camera than it is right now.

[kriskent]

you do have a point there doom

[tbrasington]

If you can afford it get it, like Doom said it isn't going to suddenly get worse if a new model is released. It is still incredible.

[MDJAK]

I'm sorry to say that I know very little about pricing in other parts of the world, but that is a bit high if it were purchased here.

B&H is currently selling it for $6,899. I understand that you probably can't get it for that price, but you might want to try to bargain with them. I think at this point in the camera's life, stores such as yours may be afraid of getting "stuck" with it. Try it, you've got nothing to lose but perhaps a few hundred to gain.

Personally, I'm in the market for a second body and am waiting to see what comes out.

I also believe there won't be major changes, though, in an upgrade.

Whatever you decide, you can't go wrong. It IS one amazing machine as it stands now. If I could only use it to half its potential.

mark

[kriskent]

Hi mdjak, yes you are right. I am now contemplating on getting a new unit from HK, for only 6,500 usd.

[kennmon]

wait so that if a new cam comes out, the price of the 1ds will drop.

[Longwatcher]

Given that it is now less then 2 months until most likely time Canon will announce a new camera and given that the 1DsMkII is the most likely for an upgrade and given that so far 22MP seems to be the most like feature of whatever it is called.
With secondary rumors of better AF and possibly better FPS, I would wait myself at this point since you already have a good enough camera.

The prices of the current 1DsMkII should drop at least $500 more before then.

But if for some reason you need the 1DsMkII now, then by all means go for it.
Excellent camera well worth it. But in any case once Photokina starts if Canon has not announced a new camera then go for it if the offer still stands as it will be at least another 6-8 months before next window for a camera announcement.

Just my opinion,

[kriskent]

i just got a word out from my friend in HK who was told by canon HK...

a new camera is coming out on photokina 2006!!!

this would be an upgrade on the 1DS Mark II

[sboerup]

Yes, the 1DsRS (supposive name) is rumored at 22mp, with a much faster FPS and who knows if they can upgrade the AF, its already fast. If you NEED that camera, then wait. If you want the 1DsII now, get it. You might save $500 - $1000 on it when the new one is announced, since most 1DsII owners will want to upgrade. $7500 is steep, but get what you want. You can grab them used for near $2k less. You'll end up waiting forever if you always waitl.

[wilflee]

It's the age old question .... its a great price, should you get it?

Well, the way I look at it, if you really need the 1Ds MK II, you wouldn't be asking this question in this forum. You'd have bought it already.

So, the real question is, is $7500 really disposable income? Will the addition of a FF 16MP body improve your photography and allow you to take better pictures?

As for the $7500 deal, it may seem a good today, but think of it this way... there is only 1 direction that price will go - down. As Canon introduces newer and more capable camera bodies, the 1Ds Mk II price is very unlikely to appreciate. The 1Ds Mk II is more likely to be technologically obsolete in 5 years. Can you justify spending/losing an add'l $7500 in 5 years when you already have a very nice 1D Mk IIN that's rapidly depreciating? If you can justify it, go for the 1Ds Mk II.

[kriskent]

thanks. i'm holding my horses till photokina annnounces canon's new flagship SLR. At least by then, even if the price seems to be high/steep, i get to enjoy the flagship for another 2 years without any competion from the same brand hahaha

[sboerup]

Also, sounds like your dealer is trying to get rid of an expensive peice of inventory that he otherwise would probably not sell. It's a good deal for both parties. You get a great camera, at a reasonable price with a good payment option, and he makes a buyer happy while selling an otherwise hard-to-sell camera. I don't think the new Canon SLR is going to be much more than the 1DsII's initial price. Probably around $8k, so, if you want the new one, it's worth it to me if I'm spending all that money anyways.

[lefturn99]

The problem is that the 1Ds MkII is still the best mass produced camera in the world this late in its life cycle. That is unusual in the camera world. That alone makes me think the upgrade will be more like the 20D-30D upgrade. And if they announce the camera at Photokina it's going to be November before you are going to get one. And then, it will be at top dollar.

Buy now.

[Tareq]

I am going to buy 1Ds Mark 2, but i think not before October or November, so you all think that they will really produce a camera better than 1Ds Mark 2?
if it 30 MP but not full frame then i will buy 1Ds Mark 2, 16.7mp and full frame is must, if they change these 2 to the best then it is ok but if they try to have for example 16.7mp and not full frame but 10 frames per second then i will keep buying 1Ds Mark 2, in fact i am not into fast camera as i am not into sports and no chance here in my area to shot motions fast like wildlife for example, i like portraiture and studio and indoor shots more in addition with night shots, so only 1Ds Mark 2 or 5D is good for me, new camera not 16.7 or not full frame i don't want it, i hope they will produce a camera much better than 1Ds mark 2 in everything or most things without reducing any features or performances.

[Longwatcher]

Will the addition of a FF 16MP body improve your photography and allow you to take better pictures?

Improve my photography maybe, let me take better pictures, you betcha.

Just my opinion of course,

[wilflee]

I am going to buy 1Ds Mark 2, but i think not before October or November, so you all think that they will really produce a camera better than 1Ds Mark 2?
if it 30 MP but not full frame then i will buy 1Ds Mark 2, 16.7mp and full frame is must, if they change these 2 to the best then it is ok but if they try to have for example 16.7mp and not full frame but 10 frames per second then i will keep buying 1Ds Mark 2, in fact i am not into fast camera as i am not into sports and no chance here in my area to shot motions fast like wildlife for example, i like portraiture and studio and indoor shots more in addition with night shots, so only 1Ds Mark 2 or 5D is good for me, new camera not 16.7 or not full frame i don't want it, i hope they will produce a camera much better than 1Ds mark 2 in everything or most things without reducing any features or performances.
Just my 2 cents. If you're into portraiture, studio & indoor shots instead of fast action or sports shots in the field, check out the Phase One P45 Backs. The 1Ds excels in portability and versatility (relatively light, large selection of lenses, extended ISO range etc.). But if you're working inside a studio where you'll have complete control over lighting, background etc, the 1Ds's strengthes are wasted. You're likely to get better pictures with a P45 back, flex adapter & Sinar chassis. There's so much more the Sinar can do that the fixed-axis 1Ds can't do.

[Tareq]

Just my 2 cents. If you're into portraiture, studio & indoor shots instead of fast action or sports shots in the field, check out the Phase One P45 Backs. The 1Ds excels in portability and versatility (relatively light, large selection of lenses, extended ISO range etc.). But if you're working inside a studio where you'll have complete control over lighting, background etc, the 1Ds's strengthes are wasted. You're likely to get better pictures with a P45 back, flex adapter & Sinar chassis. There's so much more the Sinar can do that the fixed-axis 1Ds can't do.

I know, but i am not going to have meduim formats or even large formats, don't forget that they are so expensive so what about lenses? At least 1DsMK2 will be ok for a while. I got onto another forum as well and someone told me that 1DsMK2 is an Amazing even he told me that he challenged with his friend who got H1 Hassleblad and end up that the results are similars and 1DsMk2 get better as he said so then that friend replaced his Hassleblad to 1DsMK2. I don't think i need so great expensive meduim or large formats that much, 1DsMK2 will be enough as i got Canon lenses.Thank you again

[kriskent]

i've been thinking and thinking pretty darn hard for this, should i get it to supplement my mark II N or not?

it's running at 6,300 usd in HK right now, on stock ::::::

[Ronald S. Jr.]

If you've got the cash, and it's got no place else to go, and your savings account is topped off, then go ahead. Can't hurt. Only you can know if you need it if you don't tell us what you do. Conversely, you could spend that money on a 500 f/4L IS or 600 f/4L IS and a nice set of Gitzo legs and a full Wimberly. That's if you like telephoto, though.

Also, just curious, but why do you have a 20D and 5D grip in your signature, but no 20D or 5D? Also, what the heck is an EOS Battery Pack? What, you're just talking about an extra battery for the N? Confusing.

[Tareq]

Can you send me one? I will pay for you CASH and i will add the shipping cost too, so please find one for me and i am ready to pay, i live in UAE.

[wilflee]

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=185664&page=2

Opening more threads won't help the decision.

If you really have that much money, I have some land in sunny Florida... :)

[davidfig]

At this point, with the cost you are talking about I would wait. my 2 cents.

[col4bin]

will you feel slighted if you are paying off this camera and a new one comes out before it is paid off?

[kriskent]

kinda, the feeling won't be bearable :)