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J.A.F. Doorhof
14th of October 2003 (Tue), 14:12
Ok,

I took the plunge and bought the i950, and got it today.

At the moment I use Kodak Picture paper glossy.
But somehow the pictures are a bit dull on the Glossy setting, changing to high-resolution paper is somewhat better, almost exactly what I see on the screen (calibrated). but there are some streaks of the print head visable (not on the glossy setting).

I use the Adobe RGB1998 setting for the document and the BJ2000 profile for the printer.

I can get a good glossy print, but I need to use vivid setting and this gives me some bad posteration.

What paper do you advise or am I doing something wrong.

I temporary used a Epson C70 with the same paper and this got me wonderfull prints, the Canon does look more natural so I know it's there :D.

Greetings,
Frank

robertwgross
14th of October 2003 (Tue), 14:24
J.A.F. Doorhof wrote:
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I can get a good glossy print, but I need to use vivid setting and this gives me some bad posteration.
...


Why do you need to use vivid color setting?

---Bob Gross---

HeatherJL
14th of October 2003 (Tue), 14:36
I have the i950 and found that Canon Photo Paper Pro works best. Yes, it's more expensive, but the quality is outstanding. I use the 4x6, 5x7, and 8.5x11 borderless. I also use the 8.5x11 matte photo paper from Canon and have been pleased with the results.

I usually search for the cheapest prices online and buy in bulk since it doesn't go bad. :)

J.A.F. Doorhof
14th of October 2003 (Tue), 15:10
@Robert.
With vivid the colors are more like on the screen.

I will look into some different paper sizes this week.

Greetings,
Frank

robertwgross
14th of October 2003 (Tue), 15:43
J.A.F. Doorhof wrote:
With vivid the colors are more like on the screen.


That could be explained if your monitor is not calibrated.

---Bob Gross---

J.A.F. Doorhof
14th of October 2003 (Tue), 16:13
The monitor is calibrated.
It's not a big difference any more with the new paper setting, but on Photoglossy it's terrible.

Greetings,
Frank

Gibmeister
14th of October 2003 (Tue), 16:48
I also use mostly Cannon Papers, They seem to work the best for me. I have also been using Ilford "Professional Inkjet Photo Range Smooth Pearl Paper". I really like this when I print in B&W. By the way if you watch for the CompUSA special adds that show up on the internet occasionally you can get any photo paper they stock for 50% off. I stocked up on 13x19 Photo Paper Pro for $12.50 for 10 sheets and 4x6 Photo Paper Plus Glossy 120 sheets for $12.00.

Gib

J.A.F. Doorhof
14th of October 2003 (Tue), 16:55
We don't have that over here (the Netherlands).

But I will get some different brands in and try them out.

Greetings,
Frank

boBquincy
14th of October 2003 (Tue), 17:02
I like Ilford's papers, both the Smooth Pearl (for quick drying) and the Classic Pearl (for prints that go in a frame). The Classic Pearl seems to stay a bit soft for a long time so it's best if it is protected. Their Smooth papers come out of the printer about dry and can be put in a plastic sleeve after a few hours with no problem.

I use Ilford's recommended settings and they seem to work well, with about 10R added in.

For non-demanding prints I use Office Depot's glossy photo paper (made by Konica, or so I have read). I picked up some Canon Photo Paper Pro at CompUSA when they had the 50% off sale but have not used it yet.

I had poor results with Kodak papers although they worked well with my HP printers.


boB

CyberDyneSystems
14th of October 2003 (Tue), 17:14
J.A.F.

I too had bad results with some Kodak paper I had on hand...

The Canon papers work best but I have had very good results with the high end Epson papers as well.

scottbergerphoto
14th of October 2003 (Tue), 17:24
Your printer driver is set to work with Canon Paper. When you select a paper type in the printer driver, you are selecting a printer profile(ICC) based on that kind of Canon Paper and Canon Ink. Unless you profile your printer with the non-Canon paper it will be hit or miss. Your printer will think you are using Canon paper unless you tell it to bud out (No Color Adjustment) and use another printer profile in Photoshop or Elements. If your lucky some one else has already profiled some other paper for this printer and share it with you.
Scott

mwinog2777
14th of October 2003 (Tue), 22:52
Photo Paper Pro is the best for me. I've tried almost all the papers. The only reason I use any other paper is to save money. My mother is always asking me to print my pictures for her. She gets the matte.

Watch what is known in the trade "dark ads". Circuit City runs a 2 for 1 ad on paper every so often, but only on their web ads, not in newspapers. Whenever I see it, I stock up.

J.A.F. Doorhof
15th of October 2003 (Wed), 01:46
@Scott,
That makes soo much sense.
I think that's why the plain paper setting gives so much better results.

I will try to get some profiles for paper.
We have the Easycomputing brand in our store, I will try that out tonight.

Greetings,
Frank

T_O_M
15th of October 2003 (Wed), 01:51
Kodak have settings for the i950 for there paper on there website. You have to adjust the printers colors & settings manually in the printer properties for best results. The i950 is a sRGB printer because you are using adobe RGB this may have an effect on your prints. There was a post in this forum about Adobe RGB and the i950 not long ago. I have the same printer and get excellent results using Canon Photo Paper Pro and Epson Premium Glossy photo paper (Using the Photo Paper Pro setting).

hawg
15th of October 2003 (Wed), 02:03
might be a dumb question but is there somwthing wrong with the i960? It cheaper by 50 dollars than the i950 which it is suppose to replace.

scottbergerphoto
15th of October 2003 (Wed), 08:11
T_O_M wrote:
Kodak have settings for the i950 for there paper on there website. You have to adjust the printers colors & settings manually in the printer properties for best results. The i950 is a sRGB printer because you are using adobe RGB this may have an effect on your prints. There was a post in this forum about Adobe RGB and the i950 not long ago. I have the same printer and get excellent results using Canon Photo Paper Pro and Epson Premium Glossy photo paper (Using the Photo Paper Pro setting).
I believe you mean to say that it uses RGB instructions instead of CMYK. The same is true of the Epson 2200. I believe that has no effect on what color space you take pictures in or print in. It has to do with the language of communication between the computer and the printer.
Scott

mrphoto
15th of October 2003 (Wed), 20:10
canon is the only way to go i have tryed them all you dont have to get the pro the the glossy is just as good just not as thick LM

J.A.F. Doorhof
16th of October 2003 (Thu), 01:35
@T_O_M
Where do you see the i950 ?
I only see the S900 and some other printers.
Those settings indeed are better but I have to use normal paper, and than I see banding.

Greetings,
Frank

J.A.F. Doorhof
16th of October 2003 (Thu), 08:48
:D
I got some Easycomputing paper this morning from our store and voila there it is, wonderful natural colors in the auto setting.

I'm happy :D.

Still very strange that the kodak paper does such a poor job on the canon while on the Epson and HP's they are beautiful.

Greetings,
Frank

PS.
I printed out a 4x6 of my son and compared it to a chemical print out ............. I guess we won't be going out anymore for prints.
Now I only have to calculate the price difference does any one has an idea of REAL costs on photo printing, in other words how long does your cartridges hold on 4x6 printouts.

The paper costs me wholesale arround $ 0,15 per piece, normally I pay $ 0,45 for a chemical print so I guess I can work cheaper now.

davekone
16th of October 2003 (Thu), 10:00
I use Qimage and their ICC profile for Canon Pro paper and get great results with Adobe RGB and sRGB images. Although sRGB images print more vividly on the i950. I do not ever turn on vivid color print in the printer settings. This option to me gives false colors and makes the image look entirely different than the acutal picture I took. This option is great for priting cartoon images, and gives the cartoon a TV like pop in color.

As for paper Canon Pro paper is the best, but if you want to save some $$$ and get 97% of what the Canon paper can do, go to Office Depot and buy
"Office Depot Premium Gloss" paper. Its so close to the pro paper, but there is a diefference.

Hope this helps.

David

scottbergerphoto
16th of October 2003 (Thu), 12:31
J.A.F. Doorhof wrote:
:D
I got some Easycomputing paper this morning from our store and voila there it is, wonderful natural colors in the auto setting.

I'm happy :D.

Still very strange that the kodak paper does such a poor job on the canon while on the Epson and HP's they are beautiful.

Greetings,
Frank

PS.
I printed out a 4x6 of my son and compared it to a chemical print out ............. I guess we won't be going out anymore for prints.
Now I only have to calculate the price difference does any one has an idea of REAL costs on photo printing, in other words how long does your cartridges hold on 4x6 printouts.

The paper costs me wholesale arround $ 0,15 per piece, normally I pay $ 0,45 for a chemical print so I guess I can work cheaper now.

FYI, the Kodak Premium Photo Paper doesn't work well at all on the Epson 2200, though it's fine on the Stylus Photo 750. It is not as absorbent as the Epson Premium Papers and leaves streaks from the rollers. This is not fixed by reducing the amount of ink and increasing printing time.
Scott