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[iveco]

Hi

I took these in March at a Heritage museum not far away from us

And i kind of wanted to give them an 40's style look to them

I messed around in photoshop with them and i really liked what i
came up with

C/C are always welcome


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/imastar/Aircraft/East%20Kirkby/a07dd269.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/imastar/Aircraft/East%20Kirkby/f27ade2b.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/imastar/Aircraft/East%20Kirkby/d5428562.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/imastar/Aircraft/East%20Kirkby/8994cd29.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/imastar/Aircraft/East%20Kirkby/9d7a9eb0.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/imastar/Aircraft/East%20Kirkby/9e2dd886.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/imastar/Aircraft/East%20Kirkby/1f3c418e.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/imastar/Aircraft/East%20Kirkby/08c61267.jpg

[Ianfp]

They could easily be war time photos. Very effective!

[KYBOB]

Nice job! Your conversions really do look like WWII images.

[iveco]

Thanks for the replies

I was lucky to be there when they had people dressed up for the day in the old gear, it really gave a war time feel to the place,

Thats what gave me the idae for these kind of pics


lee

[dkenney]

Great job!!!

[BillsBayou]

I like the conversion.

However, some older photographs have an uneven, mottled, look to the overall processing. I tweaked the photos a bit on my PC. I added a "Render Clouds" layer to give it a mottled look.

(I'd post my conversion, but you don't have "Image Editing OK" and that'd be wrong)

[xiphoid]

I love them! I think you did a great job :)

[photog_87]

The other thing i would suggest is that older photos have a MUCH narrower dynamic range. I would suggest processing them with a strong "S" curve to give that effect.

[hwyhobo]

I would say "No, it is not convincing to my eye". Here are the reasons why:

1. Most pictures of that era were taken on low-sensitivity emulsion and would not have such grain. The original Kodacolor of the period was ASA 32, then was bumped to 64.

2. If the enlarger didn't have a lens good enough to render everything sharp, how come the grain came out so perfectly? Were those images taken on a terrible, cheap plastic-lens camera? If so, see (3) below:

3. With the passing years, how come the whole image faded out, yet the grain stayed razor-sharp?

[BillsBayou]

It looks more like an old lithograph than old photos.

[Noelle8818]

Very convincing. I like it!

[Zilly]

hey good pictures taken at east kirkby right ?
live just down the road will 20miles any way

[iveco]

Wow thanks again for all the comments

Im pleased the effect worked for most of you, and im also pleased with the input given from those it didnt work for

It was my first and only attempt at something like this and i was more than pleased with it and i would love to see BillsBayou's alterations to it

Im not sure what you mean by ' Image Editing Ok'

By all means post what you have done to it

Regarding the location zilly

yes mate it is the Heritage Center at East Kirkby Lincolnshire, I too only live afew miles from it

[BillsBayou]

Im not sure what you mean by ' Image Editing Ok'

If you look on the left side, beneath our names and statistics, you'll notice that some of us have the text "IMAGE EDITING OK". This gives other posters permission to edit your photos and post the results of our efforts. YOU retain ownership and copyrights, but we get to do tweaks.

I haven't seen anyone complain about edits done to their photos. I've seen "No, I don't like that", but nobody freaked out over it.

[Zilly]

Regarding the location zilly

yes mate it is the Heritage Center at East Kirkby Lincolnshire, I too only live afew miles from it

Ha what a small world it is word of advice for stunning shots of the spit fire dont go to the heritage center go to the tie down area to the side of it as the spit will be right over your head

Dom

[iveco]

you'll notice that some of us have the text "IMAGE EDITING OK".

Ah right , but how do you get that there ive looked in my 'user cp' but couldnt find where to right it in


Cheers for that info zilly

Another place you will see alot of me is RAF Coningsby

take alook at my link http://lblake.fotopic.net/c867351.html

I love looking around the Battle of Britain hangar

:D

[SimonG]

Ah right , but how do you get that there ive looked in my 'user cp' but couldnt find where to right it in
It's located under the "Edit Profile" section of your User Control Panel (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/usercp.php). I think that this link (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/profile.php?do=editprofile) will take you there. Just make sure you check the yes circle, down near the bottom of the page under "Additinal Information".

[iveco]

Cheers Simon i totaly missed that

Ok folks i think you can now do what you wish to my pics lol

:confused:

[iveco]

I would say "No, it is not convincing to my eye". Here are the reasons why:

1. Most pictures of that era were taken on low-sensitivity emulsion and would not have such grain. The original Kodacolor of the period was ASA 32, then was bumped to 64.

2. If the enlarger didn't have a lens good enough to render everything sharp, how come the grain came out so perfectly? Were those images taken on a terrible, cheap plastic-lens camera? If so, see (3) below:

3. With the passing years, how come the whole image faded out, yet the grain stayed razor-sharp?

Thanks for your comments

Were those images taken on a terrible, cheap plastic-lens camera?
No matey they where taken with my canon 350D, canon EF-S 18-55mm ll USM,

But i guess that depends on ones budget really, they were not cheap to me

I have changed the sharpness of the grain

Hope this looks better to you

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/imastar/Aircraft/East%20Kirkby/12cfa7d1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/imastar/Aircraft/East%20Kirkby/ff19408a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/imastar/Aircraft/East%20Kirkby/85998e56.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/imastar/Aircraft/East%20Kirkby/8c764d37.jpg

[My Porsche]

i think if they were less grainy and fully B&W (as opposed to the orange tinting seen in some of them) they would look more convincing. :)

[iveco]

i think if they were less grainy and fully B&W (as opposed to the orange tinting seen in some of them) they would look more convincing. :)

Thanks for your reply mate

I was thinking just using B/W but looking through old pics of War time stuff, i noticed most of them had a semi colour aura about them, not totaly B/W


lee

[photog_87]

Here is my go at it:

[Zilly]

Ah right , but how do you get that there ive looked in my 'user cp' but couldnt find where to right it in


Cheers for that info zilly

Another place you will see alot of me is RAF Coningsby

take alook at my link http://lblake.fotopic.net/c867351.html

I love looking around the Battle of Britain hangar

:D

Yea its a great place to explore love just going round all the old concrete and the old buildings that are out there. Are you going to heckington show???

[xepherys]

I like the idea, but agree that there are some aging flaws. Also, film grain doesn't QUITE look like digital noise. In fact, I think there's a film grain filter for Photoshop.

[iveco]

. Are you going to heckington show???

Nah im working all weekend mate, in fact ive never been to one yet :oops:



:confused:

[Zilly]

gasp lol live in heckington so its not too far to travel lol well worth going cheep day out on all accounts

[iveco]

Ah im a Sleaford lad myself

although i did work for a firm in Heckington last year.. Molan UK and ive farmed round it for over 15yrs mostly at Keys at Burton Pedwedine /Howel fen if you've heard of them Big Onion growers

[Zilly]

hahaha the molan plant is two doors down from where i live lol. I know of the keys. what a small world it is

[hwyhobo]

No matey they where taken with my canon 350D, canon EF-S 18-55mm ll USM, You misunderstood me. Please reread my post. I explored under what possible scenario the image could have looked faded but the grain looked perfectly sharp. Had the image originally been taken (in the 1940s) on a cheap plastic-lens camera, yet the enlarger was good [...] - see?

That's what I do not find believable. The grain is too sharp and perfect. It does not fit the color film of the era.

[iveco]

You misunderstood me.


Ah right mate, yeah i see what your saying now :oops:


I still think my attempt was worth a try though, i wasnt sure what look i wanted or even what look i would get, I just kept playing around until i thought it looked old :confused:

I did try just plain B/W but that looked awful

I do like what photog_87 has done though it looks good to me :)



lee

[hwyhobo]

I still think my attempt was worth a try though Of course it was. I just thought you might experiment a bit more with the grain to make it perfect (or should I say, "less perfect"). :D