View Full Version : Flash Frames - who use's them and which ones?
ModernPics
22nd of July 2006 (Sat), 12:04
I have a Cannon 10d with a battery grip, I made a investment in both the StroboFrame Pro T w/ quick release mount and the flip frame (folding ).
I was wondering from all the pro's here - who uses Flash Brackets with a Canon 10/20/30d with battery pack.
I seem to be having trouble with keeping the frame tight as both are dependant on that one screw on the bottom of the battery grip, even with the cork.
So I am wondering who use's the StroboFrames or perhaps other brands that may work better with the Canon and battery grip.
Also wondering your thoughts on the use of flash frames - I can see the advantage with vertical shots and addressing the reduction of the shadows to the left or right of the subject.
I am thinking about selling my StroboFrame Pro T w/ quick release and the flip frame / folding version (brand new really) if there is a bit better solution.
Thanks all for your comments in advance!
Dave
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OdiN1701
22nd of July 2006 (Sat), 12:40
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=225035&is=REG&addedTroughType=search
That's what I use. I love it. Works great and it keeps everything nice and tight. The screws on the body of the bracket can work themselves loose a bit, but after a full day of shooting, just check them and make sure they are nice and tight for the next time and no problems. It does take a bit of getting used to though.
ModernPics
23rd of July 2006 (Sun), 09:37
Are you using a Battery Grip on your 10d and or your 20d with the flash frame?
Thanks for your comments - I will check into that brand of frames.
Cheers,
Dave
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=225035&is=REG&addedTroughType=search
That's what I use. I love it. Works great and it keeps everything nice and tight. The screws on the body of the bracket can work themselves loose a bit, but after a full day of shooting, just check them and make sure they are nice and tight for the next time and no problems. It does take a bit of getting used to though.
ModernPics
25th of July 2006 (Tue), 08:55
Anyone else here use Flash Frames? If so please post your camera model and brand / model of the frame you use with a quick comment on there use.
Thanks!
Dave
Curtis N
25th of July 2006 (Tue), 11:03
You may want to consider going without the grip when using a flash bracket. Without a grip, there are many more bracket models that will work.
I think most of the flash flip types should work ok with a grip, but they aren't well-suited for certain flash modifiers like the Lumiquest Promax system.
I started with a Stroboframe Quick Flip 350 for price and light weight, but recently purchased their Camera Flip model. Not only does it work better with the Lumiquest products, it's also much better suited for tripod use when you're switching from horizontal to vertical. I'm very happy with it, but I don't use a grip. I don't think it will work with a grip without modification.
While the Stroboframe products work fine for many of us, there are certainly other brands that are built better and will stand up to more use. They are also heavier and significantly more expensive.
tbfoto
25th of July 2006 (Tue), 15:55
I have three Pro-T flash brackets and have used them on my Elan7e w/vertical grip and my 20D w/vertical grip and they work great. Be sure to get yourself the anti-twist plate that fits your camera. This will solve the problem of your camera coming loose. Be sure you get the correct plate because it takes a different plate if you are using the vertical grip. I even made my own plate for one of my brackets so that I could reach the vertical button better. They are simply a "L" shaped plate that screws to the bottom plate of the bracket. It will hold the camera very well. I use mine for 8-9 hours at a time when I shoot weddings/receptions.
Tom
ModernPics
26th of July 2006 (Wed), 09:15
Thanks all for the great tips and suggestions...
The L Bracket Mount for the vertical grip sounds like a great idea - as the only thing that StroboFrame has for the 10d battery grip is the plate with cork to help with twist issues. Does not work very well at all. Since the 10d battery grip has the battery door in the back the L part of the camera mount would I assume have to be in the front.... If what you have made for your setup would work for the 10d with battery grip, you should sell those gems!
For the person who suggested Newton, that bracket is promising and I am reviewing it's features, looks pretty good.
I have three Pro-T flash brackets and have used them on my Elan7e w/vertical grip and my 20D w/vertical grip and they work great. Be sure to get yourself the anti-twist plate that fits your camera. This will solve the problem of your camera coming loose. Be sure you get the correct plate because it takes a different plate if you are using the vertical grip. I even made my own plate for one of my brackets so that I could reach the vertical button better. They are simply a "L" shaped plate that screws to the bottom plate of the bracket. It will hold the camera very well. I use mine for 8-9 hours at a time when I shoot weddings/receptions.
Tom
ModernPics
31st of July 2006 (Mon), 08:56
So far we have StroboFrame and Newton - Kinda surprised at the response to , If anyone else use's Flash Brackets....
Is that a sign that "most" of you pro's here and up-in coming pro's "do not" use flash brackets?
I can see from shooting head shots etc.. it really is a MUST have to limit the shadow cast to the left or right of the subject.
What I would love to see is replys that note if you use one or not , if not the reason and what manufacture and model of bracket do you use.
I may be selling my StroboFrame PRO-T with Quick Release so if anyone is interested post as well.
So far the Newton look - more like , what I am looking for.
Thanks all for your valued comments!
Cheers,
queenbee288
31st of July 2006 (Mon), 20:39
You may think I am crazy but I solved the slipping problem by glueing that non skid stuff that you line your shelves with and use to open jars to the top of my plate. It is a little bit harder to get the screw in but works like a charm. No slipping!
lostdoggy
31st of July 2006 (Mon), 21:20
I just pickup the Stroboframe Junior over the Pro-T. Even though they are about the same price the junior seens tobe a little better build and there is four thread holes on the front of the base plate which I plan to modify with a strip of metal so that the camera will stop twisting. Currently the twisting is tolerable but when I do decide on modifying the bracket I'll post a pic of it.
Inspired Photography
31st of July 2006 (Mon), 21:32
I own and regularly use a Stroboframe Pro-RL.
With my 20D/grip, the anti-twist plate is great. Don't have a quick release plate.
They take some getting used too though, but i love it.
Rob
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