10D 2.0.0 Firmware Out

[openspace]

According to Digital Photography Review - www.dpreview.com - a 2.0.0 firmware upgrade for the 10D will be posted to Canon's sites today.

[defordphoto]

Go here: http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/EOS10D/10D_firmware-e.html



EOS 10D Firmware Update Version 2.0.0

Firmware specification changes

This Firmware update (Version 2.0.0) incorporates the following changes:

PictBridge support*
Improvements or corrections to the following:
The release time lag when using Microdrives
C.Fn-04 AE lock operations
Exposure compensation display errors when using the Speedlite Transmitter ST-E2
*PictBridge is a new industry standard for direct printing that allows you to print images without using a computer by directly connecting digital cameras and digital camcorders to a printer, regardless of the devices' brand and model.
This firmware update applies to cameras with firmware versions 1.0.0 or 1.0.1. It is not necessary to perform this update on cameras that already have version 2.0.0 firmware.

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Firmware Q&A

Q: Tell me more about the changes made in this firmware update.
A: This update makes the following changes:
PictBridge support
By updating your camera's firmware to version 2.0.0, you can add support for PictBridge, which will enable you to print images simply by connecting directly to any PictBridge-compliant printer. For information about how to use the PictBridge functions, please download the manual (a PDF file) at the end of this page.

Of course, you can continue to print from Canon's unique camera-direct printers (i.e., BUBBLE JET DIRECT, etc.) just as you always have.

Improvements or corrections to the following:
The release time lag when using Microdrives
Corrects the release time lag that sometimes occurred when using Microdrives.
C.Fn-04 AE lock operations
Corrects the AE lock operations when C.Fn-04 custom functions 1 or 3 is selected.
Exposure compensation display errors when using the Speedlite Transmitter ST-E2
Corrects the exposure compensation display errors when using the Speedlite Transmitter ST-E2.

[defordphoto]

Update went super smooth. Have not tested it yet. And I do have two microdrives so I'll be interested to see the speed difference.

[CyberDyneSystems]

It sounds like this firmware MAY help to resolve the issues I had with a Magicstor Microdrive.

Perhaps I will need to give it another try before returning it.

[DamienB]

The release lag with a microdrive is something you'd definitely notice if you've suffered from it - the release button simply doesn't work for several seconds, you can repeatedly press it or hold it down, it makes no difference. Often happens when I'm taking lots of shots in rapid succession - occasionally happens just out of the blue on a first attempt to take a shot, or after one successful one.

I know several 10D owners and all have suffered from what we call a '10D moment'.

If this is what Canon have fixed I shall be delighted.

[iwatkins]

Note to everyone.

Before performing the upgrade note down all your settings / custom settings as the upgrade resets all these to factory.

Cheers

Ian

[J.A.F. Doorhof]

There are a lot more options....for the picture bridge. I would have loved to see this under one menu.

Greetings,
Frank

[arde]

The firmware update does not seem to work with Mac OS X :-(
It requires the old Mac OS 9.0 - 9.2. Pretty stuped I would say.

Even if you still have the classic environment on your system (I haven't) you have to installl the Canon software AGAIN before you can upload the new firmware to the CF card.

Most other Canon firware updates DO work under OS X. The updater for my wife's A300 worked fine under OS X.

Does anyone have a clue why Canon did this?

[CyberDyneSystems]

I did not think that the update releid on a computer at all. I thought you merely copied the update to a CF card and then installed the CF card in the Camera and turned it on?

At what point does the Max OS and/or Canon Software enter into it?

[arde]

Yes you are correct in case you have a separate CF reader.
But if you do not have a separate CF card reader to upload the new firmware to the CF card, you have to do this via the USB cable, which requires the special utility....

[Sketcher]

CyberDyneSystems wrote:
I did not think that the update releid on a computer at all. I thought you merely copied the update to a CF card and then installed the CF card in the Camera and turned it on?

At what point does the Max OS and/or Canon Software enter into it?

If you don't have a CF card reader available, you can connect via USB to your computer and apply the firmware update via the upload.exe file in the firmware update. I'm thinkin' it'd be strange to be w/out a CF reader - but then I'm just kind of strange in the first place; or so I'm told.

[Sketcher]

CDS,

w/the refreshed conspirical ideas throughout the forums of what the recent firmware is preported to address, you might want to brush the dust off that anecdote of yours :).

Take 200 milligrams of Obecalp and call me in the morning...

[CyberDyneSystems]

lol! :D

I had forgot about that! haha

Well,. conspiracy and miracle cures aside,.

..it turns out that this update DID cure my MagicStor 2.2 Gig MicroDrive problems. (or so the first tests seem to prove)

I just hammered the 10D and Microdrive with over 100 RAW shots in rapid succesion,... and I goit none of the error 02 messages I had been getting!

I will test further tomorrow,. but I am pretty happy now :)

[Brian Mackey]

neither of my 10d's work after this upgrade all the do is power on and say EOS nothing elese works called canon and all say is send the cameras in for repair, they dont support the upgrades! Canon support Sucks!

[defordphoto]

Brian Mackey wrote:
neither of my 10d's work after this upgrade all the do is power on and say EOS nothing elese works called canon and all say is send the cameras in for repair, they dont support the upgrades! Canon support Sucks!



You obviously did something wrong. Twice. Try the upgrade again. Follow directions to the "T". Thousands have done it with no problems.

Not sure what you expected Canon to do over the phone. They support their upgrades. In fact when I had my D60 in for repair last year, they upgraded it for me.

[Brian Mackey]

RFMSports wrote:
Brian Mackey wrote:
neither of my 10d's work after this upgrade all the do is power on and say EOS nothing elese works called canon and all say is send the cameras in for repair, they dont support the upgrades! Canon support Sucks!



You obviously did something wrong. Twice. Try the upgrade again. Follow directions to the "T". Thousands have done it with no problems.

Not sure what you expected Canon to do over the phone. They support their upgrades. In fact when I had my D60 in for repair last year, they upgraded it for me.

LOL yeah right, that would kinda tough! each update said succesful its not rocket science to run these updates. They support it? Sending somthing in for repair is not support!

[Brian Mackey]

RFMSports wrote:
Brian Mackey wrote:
neither of my 10d's work after this upgrade all the do is power on and say EOS nothing elese works called canon and all say is send the cameras in for repair, they dont support the upgrades! Canon support Sucks!



You obviously did something wrong. Twice. Try the upgrade again. Follow directions to the "T". Thousands have done it with no problems.

Not sure what you expected Canon to do over the phone. They support their upgrades. In fact when I had my D60 in for repair last year, they upgraded it for me.

And as I said in the origianl post, the cameras dont power on all the way, so the will not re-run the update

[defordphoto]

That's pretty weird, Brian. Sorry to hear that. Especially with two separate cameras and everyone else upgrading them just fine. I'm curious (as I know you are) what the heck went wrong. We may never know.

[Brian Mackey]

RFMSports wrote:
That's pretty weird, Brian. Sorry to hear that. Especially with two separate cameras and everyone else upgrading them just fine. I'm curious (as I know you are) what the heck went wrong. We may never know.

I dont have a clue :( these cameras have had no issues, focus or otherwise, if the downlaod was corrupt the upgrade should have failed, but they finished as the .pdf file stated. powered the cameras off and turned them on to the issue stated above.

I wish there was a factory reset button somewhere

[defordphoto]

Brian Mackey wrote:
I wish there was a factory reset button somewhere



Yeah no kidding. CTRL-ALT-DEL would be nice. You must be heartbroke. I know I would be. Now you'll be without for about two weeks having to ship to Canon. My sympathies.

[mjordan]

Jim, does that link still work? I just tried it and I never got a web page to come up.

Did anyone notice if this update did anything to the underexposure problem with studio lights? My 10D was 1 fstop under before the first flash update and 1.5 after the last update. I'm hoping this one will fix it or at least go back to only 1 under.

Mike

[RichardtheSane]

Brian, did you use the same update on both cameras?

[w10d]

mjordan wrote:
Did anyone notice if this update did anything to the underexposure problem with studio lights? My 10D was 1 fstop under before the first flash update and 1.5 after the last update.


Just curious to know what this under exposure problem is.

What kind of studio lights, flash, tungsten, HMI, flourescent? Also, what method of measuring the light are you using?

[mjordan]

w10d wrote:
mjordan wrote:
Did anyone notice if this update did anything to the underexposure problem with studio lights? My 10D was 1 fstop under before the first flash update and 1.5 after the last update.


Just curious to know what this under exposure problem is.

What kind of studio lights, flash, tungsten, HMI, flourescent? Also, what method of measuring the light are you using?



Like the AF problem the 10D had at first, not everyone was affected and not everyone shoots with studio lights, so it's not as apparent of a problem to most people.

If I am using monolights I have to open up 1.5 to 1.75 more fstop to the reading I'm getting with my flash meter. When I first got the 10D it was only 1 stop more. It was after I upgraded to the first firmware update that it got worse. I have a L-358 flash meter is is pretty accurate. I used it a lot when I was shooting with my EOS 3 and I have compared the readings with other meters of people that had no problems (non-Canon shooters one with a Minilota IV that had been calibrated) and our meters were within 1/10th of each other.

I don't know if it has something to do with shooting in manual (I always shoot in manual when I use my studio lights) or something else. But I'm not the only person that has seen this problem. I frequent a few other forums (not dpreview) and people on there see the problem as well.

If I ever get a chance to talk to a Canon rep I'm going to ask them about it. I could send it in, but sometimes Canon will tweak something to fix a complaint but it will also affect something else. So I keep hoping that they will fix something in one of the firmware updates as part of the other fixes they put in there.

Mike

[w10d]

mjordan wrote:
Like the AF problem the 10D had at first, not everyone was affected and not everyone shoots with studio lights, so it's not as apparent of a problem to most people.



Thanks for the response Mike.

I'm new to the 10D, and as about 90% of my work is in the studio I'm very interested in your post. I know a few photographers who are happily using 10D's with various studio flash set-ups, so it does sound as though you either have a camera or sync problem.

Could you tell me if this problem happens with different flash systems, and whether you have tried sync speeds below 1/60?

Now I've read your post I wish I'd tried the camera out in a studio set-up last week!

[mjordan]

I've can't recall for sure but I think I tried 1/60th right after I got the camera (as the manual says 1/60th), although I have tried both 1/90th and I shoot at 1/125th.

I've used both the PC connector, the hot shoe and Pocket Wizards. It's very consistant.

While I'm not about to say it's not something I'm doing (as soon as I did I'd be show it was ;D), I've taken thousands of pictures with pretty much the same setup and lights with my Rebel G, EOS 3, D30 and 10D. Even a 4x5 camera a few times.

I've compared the final image as well as histogram while taking the shots. It was the histogram that got my attention at first when it was just 1 fstop off. The almost 2 fstops after the upgrade really jumped out at me.

It's mostly during the winter that I take a lot of pictures with my monolights (I have Excalibur SP6400, SP3200 and SP1600 lights as my main lights) when I can't do a lot of outdoor pictures. The on camera flash seems to be fine as is daylight pictures using the camera meter.

Mike

[w10d]

Thanks again Mike.

Sounds curious, and has given me something to think about, no doubt for you it is frustrating - I certainly wouldn't want to lose 2 stops from my flash output.

First thought was the sensors sensitivity to short durations of light, but I suspect the inbuilt flash has a shorter duration than the average flash. I think it would be worth a test at lower sync speeds, just for the sake of ruling that out, as you say Canon recommend 1/60 with studio flash.

Please do post something on this forum when you get this sorted out.

Thanks again.