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muls

23rd of July 2006 (Sun), 21:18

Had the pleasure of shooting Arturo "Thunder" Gatti for the ninth time in his Welterweight title challenge of Carlos Baldomir. While he lost this time out, he once again gave the crowd their money's worth...

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Enjoy the shots and critiques and comments are welcome.

Ed

BryanP

23rd of July 2006 (Sun), 21:22

Wow, those are definitely great shots. Exactly the type I see when I check out the Times :)

EXCELLENT work.

Crashoran

23rd of July 2006 (Sun), 23:55

*bows down*

joetothphoto

24th of July 2006 (Mon), 08:30

Ed,

Great stuff as always.

Joe

coryjohnson

24th of July 2006 (Mon), 10:44

great work, did you use strobes during the match?

superdiver

24th of July 2006 (Mon), 11:16

Just amazing shots man!

What kind of rig do you use for these? what ever it is you make it look really good!

Photodawg1

24th of July 2006 (Mon), 11:24

Ed, I was waiting for you to post some shotsfrom this fight. Excellent as always! I would be interested in your "rig" too!

muls

24th of July 2006 (Mon), 14:01

Thanks guys,

Cory, no strobes at all, they are not permitted...

All the photos were shot with either a 1DMarkIIN with a 24-70 f2.8L, or a 1DMarkII with a 70-200 f2.8L...

Ed

DwightMcCann

24th of July 2006 (Mon), 16:13

All the photos were shot with either a 1DMarkIIN with a 24-70 f2.8L, or a 1DMarkII with a 70-200 f2.8L...

Ed

Well, I believe that's the perfect combination! Very nice, Ed ... an amazing number of jaw twisters to capture in a single fight.

muls

26th of July 2006 (Wed), 08:18

Thanks Dwight, I had a pretty decent night, hopefully I'll have another one Saturday...See you ringside...I'm arriving late Thursday afternoon...

Ed

gmen

26th of July 2006 (Wed), 08:20

Just seen these Ed! Superb as always... but the lead image is something special.

---- Gavin

DwightMcCann

26th of July 2006 (Wed), 12:10

Thanks Dwight, I had a pretty decent night, hopefully I'll have another one Saturday...See you ringside...I'm arriving late Thursday afternoon...

Ed

Like I said, call me if you need me. If I don't hear from you Thursday I will likely be ringing you up early Friday.

[Edit: Ed will be shooting at the Chumash Casino Resort on Saturday, which is my venue, and I plan to meet up with him. His hotel for the match is in my little town of 6000 and only about a mile from my house.]

carsanbballs

26th of July 2006 (Wed), 12:54

Number 10 shows it all!

superdiver

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 02:11

You know when yu get praise from Gavin and Dwight you are shootin the **** man!

superdiver

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 02:11

OOOPPPSSSS sorry...didnt know that would get blanked out....

DwightMcCann

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 12:10

Superdiver, I just assume you aware that Ed Mulholland, "muls" here, is one of the premier boxing photographers in the world ... we are generally more awed by his work than anything else. :-) I will be shooting shoulder to shoulder with him on Saturday night at an HBO boxing event and am fluttery in the tummy just thinking about it. He is also one of those who guides and mentors the less fortunate when his schedule permits.

MDJAK

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 12:34

Ed, I watched this fight and I think I saw you at ringside. Your shots are excellent as always.

Is your timing that good, or do you fire off bursts of shots?

Also, who was the photographer who was right on top of Arturo when he went down for the final time? He was like between the ropes with his camera right in his face. I loved that.

mark

Photodawg1

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 12:34

DwightMcCann

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 13:13

Dwight, if you get sick I will fill in for you!!!
I shot KISS last night, tonight will shoot Al Green, KISS Friday night, and after paying all this penance I will get to shoot with Ed on Saturday night! I have to wonder if I died on the table during my quadruple coronary bypass and am in heaven (although I fully expect to go to the "other place")?

superdiver

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 13:35

Dang!, I had no idea...thanks for the info Dwight...please post the pictures when you can...I LOVE your guys work!

Photodawg1

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 13:45

I shot KISS last night, tonight will shoot Al Green, KISS Friday night, and after paying all this penance I will get to shoot with Ed on Saturday night! I have to wonder if I died on the table during my quadruple coronary bypass and am in heaven (although I fully expect to go to the "other place")?

Well, with all your practice with lighting you should do especially well in the "other place!" Hope you have lots of stamina for this marathon. Where you guys doing the HBO... Vegas? I envy you the opp to shoot with Muls! btw, I took your advice and just bought some lens cleaner! Can't wait to see your shots, although it probably won't be until mid next week before we see them filter though all the sleep you will need to catch up!;)

DwightMcCann

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 14:13

Well, with all your practice with lighting you should do especially well in the "other place!" Hope you have lots of stamina for this marathon. Where you guys doing the HBO... Vegas? I envy you the opp to shoot with Muls! btw, I took your advice and just bought some lens cleaner! Can't wait to see your shots, although it probably won't be until mid next week before we see them filter though all the sleep you will need to catch up!;)
The event will be at the Chumash Casino Resort in Santa Ynez, California ... same place I am shooting all this other stuff which is 7.5 miles from my house. Due to the posting restrictions here I am more like to simply post a link to my website and it may be a couple of weeks ... I am very busy ... you can check my blog. I am going to try to hang with Ed at least part of tomorrow, but I know he will be very busy as he has not been here before.

muls

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 19:05

I'm in!!! Just arrived at the hotel in Buellton...Dwight, I guess I'll be meeting up with you sometime tomorrow...I dont even know what time the weigh-in is yet, but if you have some time to kill before it tomorrow, give me a call and we can meet up for lunch somewhere, you should have my cell phone in the signature of my emails, if not shoot me an email...

Ed

muls

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 19:10

MDJAK,

I generally shoot one shot at a time, rarely do I shoot a burst, except in the case of a knockdown...you'd be surprised how easy you can shoot off a burst and get crap...As far as the photographers by Arturo when he went down, you had a NY Post photog, then Al Bello (shaved head) and myself (Red Hat)...

As for the flattery, thanks, it's appreciated, of course I'll meet Dwight tomorrow and then his image of me will be shattered...hehe...

Ed

DwightMcCann

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 19:43

I just talked with Ed ... he sounds like a Jersey boy! I'll let everyone know if he is just modest or really is a twit!:rolleyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:

DwightMcCann

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 19:52

Is your timing that good, or do you fire off bursts of shots?

Mark, I have found exactly what Ed says about bursts ... 8.5 fps doesn't do a thing for 95% of the shots ... you have to watch, watch, watch, anticipate and fire. The image you want happens in 1/40th of a second. The burst is 8.5 frames in a second which means five one-second bursts that cover just the right periods will yield one good shot ... BUT, the likelihood that you get the right one-second is about one in ten, so that's 400 frames and luck. Even I do much, much better watching and anticipating and I am a newbie.

I tend to run bursts when one boxer has been hit and the other goes into a flurry of punching one after another for several seconds ... sometimes you get the "final" punch in there somewhere.

I have noticed that I often hear a shutter firing next to me and see a great punch that I had no idea was coming. I also hear my shutter firing because I saw a boxer lean and flinch or tense but no other shutters and no punch. I get a lot of images of guys just looking at each other. The best shooters are often those who were once boxers.

MDJAK

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 20:40

Ed and Dwight,

thank you both for those well thought out answers. Somehow, I thought that's how you guys did it, meaning one shot at a time.

I know when I shoot a burst, for some reason it makes me a bit nervous and I tend to shake a bit. I rarely get good results from it.

Have fun at the HBO event. Can't wait to see your results.

mark

MDJAK

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 20:44

Ed, one more thing if you don't mind.

I just visited your boxing photo website. Just fantastic. I noticed you also shot UFC. Do you shoot through the chain link fence? Also, how do you compare it to boxing? It appears a bit harder to get good shots as you have to watch both the legs and hands and often times it turns into a wrestling match.

mark

superscot

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 20:45

super shots ..............................sharp

muls

27th of July 2006 (Thu), 21:50

Mark,

UFC is a bit harder because the lighting usually isnt as good and they mix in a bunch of different color lights as well...you do shoot through the fence, which just about eliminates the use of auto-focus...I'll still use it from time to time, but your mainly tweaking it manually. It's a switch for me because I shoot boxing pretty tight, whereas with UFC, you tend to shoot wide when they are standing...Fun to shoot though, but I generally only shoot the ones on the east coast, so I dont get to cover it as much as I'd like...

Ed

gmen

28th of July 2006 (Fri), 06:28

muls

28th of July 2006 (Fri), 09:45

Gavin,

No need to watch the wires or the mags on this one, I'm shooting for HBO, so they wont be going out...

Ed

mgbeach

28th of July 2006 (Fri), 09:53

just great! Shot boxing for the first time last night and realized for the first time how difficult it is. Much respect to you.

gmen

28th of July 2006 (Fri), 12:53

Gavin,

No need to watch the wires or the mags on this one, I'm shooting for HBO, so they wont be going out...

EdI'll look forward to your ss.com gallery then Ed.

It was interesting to see that we both had featured galleries on the Sportsshooter Virtual Agency a couple of weeks back... boxing and cricket side-by-side ;)

---- Gavin

muls

29th of July 2006 (Sat), 01:12

Missed that Gavin, didnt know we were on the Sportsshooter VA together...cool...

Shot the weigh-in today, nothing real interesting...The normal stage that they would do it on couldnt be used because of a KISS concert (where Dwight is now) so it was in a small meeting room in the hotel lobby. Not the most attractive setting...Dwight, who didnt have to shoot the weigh-in spent the time shooting me shooting the weigh-in (pretty funny) Funnier still was when one of the boxing PR guys asked Dwight for some photos to go out to the web sites (they cant use mine) and Dwight had to tell him he spent it shooting pictures of me...hehe...The HBO people probably think I get paid too much now because I have my own "personal' photographer...

I get to go see the wine country in the morning with my personal photog though...should be cool to shoot...

DwightMcCann

29th of July 2006 (Sat), 01:31

I left KISS after two songs tonight to be with my family watching a "Movie in the Park" ... Ice Age ... across the street in the park. I will post shots of Ed shooting the weigh-in when I get caught up, sigh! :-)

For those wondering, Muls is significantly more impressive than you would ever guess by his mild mannered appearances! I am renaming him "Muls the Magician!"

DwightMcCann

29th of July 2006 (Sat), 11:17

Good morning! I found an image of Ed from the boxing weigh-in ... he was regaling all of us with songs and stories of his heroic past :lol: :lol: :lol: which he must do often because he had the whole storyline on his Mac so that it was really a multimedia show! :lol: :lol: :lol:

He knows all the big name boxers and they do what he asks ... one of the benefits of fame I think. It was a real joy watching him work, listening to his interactions, and generally basking in the glow. :rolleyes: I am also including an image of the boxers and managers getting a lecture from the California boxing commissioner so you can get a little bit of a feel for the ambience.

muls

29th of July 2006 (Sat), 11:48

Ice Age...love that movie...Dwight lies, no fighters listen to me (just the letters of the network I'm shooting for on this one), I just happened to be one of the only photogs around (like I said Dwight was busy making me feel important by documenting me) so they had no choice but to hear me...god I hate being on the other side of the camera...as far as the multimedia show, cant deny that, always have your portfolio with you, never know who you will run into...hehe...

DwightMcCann

29th of July 2006 (Sat), 11:51

Ed and Dwight...

You guys have fun eh?! While you're tucking into a hearty lunch and chewing the 'boxing photography' cud, think of me stuck over here in Blighty shooting too much cricket for my own good :lol:

Looking forward to seeing the pics later on... I'll be watching the wires Ed ;)

---- Gavin

Gavin, you were never out of our thoughts ... over there shooting all the brightly colored cricketeers in the fresh clean outdoors while we were stuck in a small room with a mass of testosterone laden men who were filling out endless forms and stripping off their clothes to weigh-in ... not my preference of activities ... hope it will be balanced by tonight's ring girls. I just wish I could have gotten Ed into KISS but there was hardly room for me! :-)

Photodawg1

29th of July 2006 (Sat), 12:42

we were stuck in a small room with a mass of testosterone laden men who were filling out endless forms and stripping off their clothes to weigh-in ... not my preference of activities ... ! :-)

ARGGGHHHHHH!!! Well it certainly would have made my day!!!

DwightMcCann

29th of July 2006 (Sat), 16:41

ARGGGHHHHHH!!! Well it certainly would have made my day!!!

Well, yes, the women there were less than shy about looking at these guys! Some of them are very cute, too!

Photodawg1

29th of July 2006 (Sat), 20:17

I expect better from you Dwight!

DwightMcCann

30th of July 2006 (Sun), 11:29

I expect better from you Dwight!

Exactly why I have to reset everyone's expectations from time to time. :D

Photodawg1

30th of July 2006 (Sun), 11:35

Exactly why I have to reset everyone's expectations from time to time. :D
So weird to be typing this and look over and see your mug on the set!!! Send me that shot you got of Clottey!

DwightMcCann

30th of July 2006 (Sun), 12:11

So weird to be typing this and look over and see your mug on the set!!! Send me that shot you got of Clottey!

Eh? I'm on TV? Can you tell I was totally dehydrated from my day in the valley with Ed? Can you see the ring girls sitting behind me? When I get my studio finally whipped into shape they are going to help me learn glamor photography ... their eyes glaze over when I mention I have a studio. :-)

Photodawg1

30th of July 2006 (Sun), 12:20

DwightMcCann

30th of July 2006 (Sun), 12:52

I saw em! little silver bikinis. I always carry water and snacks when I shoot horses or boxers...I can't tear myself away from the action. Even though dehydrated, sounds like you enjoyed this more than most of the stuff you have been doing lately...did I get it right? You bailed on KISS to hang with Muls...just what I need another superpro photog to have to compete with...jeez! :) I am just SO jealous!!!
Yup, the "silver" was sequins. I was sitting right next to the steps they walk up to get into the ring, sigh ... I'll post something at some point to show the position. They are really, really very nice ... I found out last night that one is an interior decorator. They apparently bring their boyfriends who get to sit with them ... they are the biggest yellers and screamers in the crowd, urging them to wilder antics, but once they are sitting they are holding hands and are really rather smooshy-goo!

Oh, well, no, I bailed on KISS (after shooting my two songs) to go home and walk across the street from my house where my tiny town (6000) was showing Ice Age in the school yard on a sheet tied up to the backstop of the baseball diamond to be with my daughter and wife. I even made it before the movie started. I bought a $1 bag of popcorn and had a grand time with my daughter in her footie pajamas in my lap!

Photodawg1

30th of July 2006 (Sun), 13:02

Ahhhhhh. So sweet. You are just so grounded and wonderful. An inspiration to me you are. Well, if Muls ever needs another groupie tell him to give me a holler!

DwightMcCann

30th of July 2006 (Sun), 13:12

Just got my images off my CF cards and found this good looking guy!

Photodawg1

30th of July 2006 (Sun), 13:21

Good one of Lennox...

DwightMcCann

31st of July 2006 (Mon), 12:09

Good one of Lennox...
Thanks ... Ed made me do it! I can't say enough nice stuff about Ed ... my whole boxing shooting experience will be forever changed by his visit ... I know I am a bit of a romantic, but hanging on his coattails for one event showed me tons of things that I would have spent years and years to learn. He showed me how to shoot a weigh-in and before the fights pointed out the people I should get shots of like Lennox ... I had no idea who Lennox was! And Ed's dressing room shots were magical.

Ed, due to KISS processing requirements I have only just reviewed my images from the fights. Amost nothing good from Vivian's fight but a couple of good head jerkers from Joshua's bout. I am obliged to process Al Green before I can get to uploading the fight images, sigh, so maybe tomorrow evening. Generally I would have them next day. So, what's the URL for your images at HBO?

Photodawg1

31st of July 2006 (Mon), 12:14

Thanks ... Ed made me do it! I can't say enough nice stuff about Ed ... my whole boxing shooting experience will be forever changed by his visit ... I know I am a bit of a romantic, but hanging on his coattails for one event showed me tons of things that I would have spent years and years to learn. He showed me how to shoot a weigh-in and before the fights pointed out the people I should get shots of like Lennox ... I had no idea who Lennox was! And Ed's dressing room shots were magical.

Ed, due to KISS processing requirements I have only just reviewed my images from the fights. Amost nothing good from Vivian's fight but a couple of good head jerkers from Joshua's bout. I am obliged to process Al Green before I can get to uploading the fight images, sigh, so maybe tomorrow evening. Generally I would have them next day. So, what's the URL for your images at HBO?

Hanging with someone who knows the ropes and helps you and is not threatened elevates the whole experience. Glad that you got to experience that.

DwightMcCann

31st of July 2006 (Mon), 12:39

Hanging with someone who knows the ropes and helps you and is not threatened elevates the whole experience. Glad that you got to experience that.
Well, Ed is certainly fearless! He went from shooting landscapes to shooting miniature horses on the little photosafari I took him on and didn't bat an eyelash! :lol: I took him to Los Olivos which was Mayberry for Andy Griffith's show and he didn't skip a beat there, either. The guy can actually shoot anything and make art from it!

And he never stopped helping me and his assistant the whole night of fights ... kept coming down the mat to show me what he captured so I could put images together with where he stood and leaned. We were so busy having a good time I forgot to pull out the 15mm fisheye for a Gavin Ellis shot.

Photodawg1

31st of July 2006 (Mon), 12:50

Well, Ed is certainly fearless! He went from shooting landscapes to shooting miniature horses on the little photosafari I took him on and didn't bat an eyelash! :lol: I took him to Los Olivos which was Mayberry for Andy Griffith's show and he didn't skip a beat there, either. The guy can actually shoot anything and make art from it!

And he never stopped helping me and his assistant the whole night of fights ... kept coming down the mat to show me what he captured so I could put images together with where he stood and leaned. We were so busy having a good time I forgot to pull out the 15mm fisheye for a Gavin Ellis shot.

Argggh, now you are making me jealous!

DwightMcCann

31st of July 2006 (Mon), 12:55

Argggh, now you are making me jealous!

Did I forget to mention that I took him out Santa Rosa Road to Sanford Winery of SIDEWAYS fame where he bought a few bottles of the creme-de-la-creme Pinot Noir to ship home to his wife since she couldn't come.

Photodawg1

31st of July 2006 (Mon), 13:17

Did I forget to mention that I took him out Santa Rosa Road to Sanford Winery of SIDEWAYS fame where he bought a few bottles of the creme-de-la-creme Pinot Noir to ship home to his wife since she couldn't come.

There you go... plunge that knife a little deeper!!! Sounds like a really good visit. Very cool you guys hit it off. I don't really shoot with too many people, and it's rare to click with another person/photog that well. It is refreshing and encouraging to follow this adventure!

DwightMcCann

31st of July 2006 (Mon), 13:33

There you go... plunge that knife a little deeper!!! Sounds like a really good visit. Very cool you guys hit it off. I don't really shoot with too many people, and it's rare to click with another person/photog that well. It is refreshing and encouraging to follow this adventure!

Ed is first class. Boxing people are first class!

I am already planning for Ed's next visit, with his bride ... we'll go to the Wine Cottage Bistro (http://www.ourwinecottage.com/) for a romantic dinner for four! Maybe hit the Lompoc Flower Festival if he comes in late Spring.

Photodawg1

31st of July 2006 (Mon), 13:46

Ed is first class. Boxing people are first class!

I am already planning for Ed's next visit, with his bride ... we'll go to the Wine Cottage Bistro (http://www.ourwinecottage.com/) for a romantic dinner for four! Maybe hit the Lompoc Flower Festival if he comes in late Spring.

That sounds lovely!!! We expect a full report, replete with photos! :p