View Full Version : Canon EF 75-300mm or Sigma 70-300mm DG Macro?
Paul Tinworth
25th of July 2006 (Tue), 16:21
I'm only beginning to get into digital photography, so I'm going to need some help here! I've just bought myself a second-hand 50mm f/1.8 MkII (very happy - can't wait until it arrives!) and now I'm thinking about my next purchase: a 300mm telephoto.
I already have a Sigma 55-200mm f/4-5.6 DC, and while at university, I borrowed my flatmate's Canon 75-300mm f/4-5.6 (I should note that it is a film-lens, not a digital one) with some amazing results, hence why I wish to buy a larger telephoto.
Anyway, to the point!
My flatmate is willing to sell his lens for £90... but I have just come across this for £95: a Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 DG Macro (http://www.microglobe.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?pName=sigma-70300mm-f456-dg-macro-zoom-lens-for-canon-eos&cName=lenses-sigma).
My questions:
Is this lens primarily for macro photography, or, like it suggests, is it a 'normal' telephoto but with the ability to undertake macro photography?
Is it better than the Canon 75-300mm f/4-5.6?
What do the 'DC' and 'DG' suffixes mean? :oops:
4x4rock
25th of July 2006 (Tue), 16:59
From what I've read the Sigma is a better lens than the Canon 75-300.
Dorman
25th of July 2006 (Tue), 17:23
The Sigma is generally regarded as the better of the two lenses, and it's a real gem for a "budget" telephoto. It's a normal telephoto with the ability to do close-ups, the magnification is half of life size, so close up but not true macro.
liza
25th of July 2006 (Tue), 17:43
The Sigma is much better. I own the Canon and my copy sucks.
delhi
25th of July 2006 (Tue), 18:27
Make sure it's with the APO designation. You get not one but TWO extra LD glasses making it THREE in total.
Paul Tinworth
25th of July 2006 (Tue), 18:32
Thanks for the replies, everyone! Greatly appreciated :)
I'm afraid I can't afford the APO variant, Delhi, (I'm a poor student!) but thanks for the advice anyway :)
Stavhp
25th of July 2006 (Tue), 18:38
it wont do macro, it will just le you focus at o,95 metres aways from something at 300, i think the macro button wasw just put there so it wouldnt hunt so much and just as another selling point
delhi
25th of July 2006 (Tue), 19:04
Thanks for the replies, everyone! Greatly appreciated :)
I'm afraid I can't afford the APO variant, Delhi, (I'm a poor student!) but thanks for the advice anyway :)
But you must! you must! avoid a few beers and eat KDs over a few weeks. The IQ is better and you avoid CA.
Paul Tinworth
25th of July 2006 (Tue), 19:25
I'm going to guess IQ is 'Image Quality', but I haven't a clue what CA is. I'm afraid I haven't gotten used to camera lingo yet :oops: :( While we're on the subject of acronyms and abbreviations, can anyone tell me what DC and DG mean?
And I simply can't afford it! I want to put the rest of my money towards a nice, slim P&S camera for when I go out; not too sensible carrying around decent kit in a pub or nightclub! :lol: :rolleyes:
liza
26th of July 2006 (Wed), 08:15
CA=chromatic aberration
form
26th of July 2006 (Wed), 10:11
CA - Chromatic Aberration - is an effect where the different colors are not refracted in exactly the same way by the lens, causing a colored "fringe" to show up at a specific angle along the edge of an object or contrasting area. It typically grows stronger towards the corners of an image.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_aberration
Sigma's DC line is only for cameras that use APS-C size (1.5x or 1.6x crop, I believe) sensors, and will produce black corners (an extreme version of vignetting) on larger sensors, particularly at the widest focal lengths the lens reaches (if it's a zoom; if it's a fixed focal DC lens, then the vignetting is unavoidable on a larger sensor/full frame camera). For the same reason of tighter tolerances, the DC line, and other similar lines by other manufacturers (Tamron's "Di II", Canon's "EF-S") whose lenses are designed specifically for 1.5x and 1.6x crop sensors, have more vignetting on APS-C based cameras than lenses designed for full frame.
The DG line can be used on anything; they are compatible with APS-C sensors as well as larger sensors and full-frame 35mm cameras, and won't have black corners on any of them.
For indoors compact digicams, http://www.dpreview.com just reviewed the Fuji Finepix F30. I owned their F10 before I bought a rebel xt. Not the best for movies or burst mode, but otherwise I very much liked the images I got from it, especially compared to my Kodak DC280 Zoom. Sony, certain Casio models - not the Z850 - and (supposedly) Canon, are probably better for movie mode. A friend of mine has a Sony DSC-P200 and the movies I've seen from that camera are quite good.
red hot sheep
26th of July 2006 (Wed), 10:16
Unless you need the 300mm range, go for the tamron 55-200mm. I just got one for £99, and for the price, the IQ is amazing! I will review it later in a new thread.
Michel Souris
27th of July 2006 (Thu), 20:32
Look at this link. It's got samples from the non-APO Sigma (which I'm selling elsewhere on this forum), the model immediately preceding the current DG model, but really the same lens. The sharpness, contrast, and focussing-accuracy are great.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/msouris2003/sets/72157594213303081/
Matatazela
28th of July 2006 (Fri), 01:58
The Sigma is much better. I own the Canon and my copy sucks. I owned the Canon and my copy sucked.
Answer is simple. Get the Sigma. Or better - get the EF 100-400 IS USM L. You will not regret it.
liza
28th of July 2006 (Fri), 03:00
I should probably sell my copy so I, too, can refer to it in the past tense. But I can't justify unloading my lens on anyone else. It's that bad.
ron chappel
28th of July 2006 (Fri), 04:40
Most are recommending you buy the sigma without realizing it's the APO version that is the good one ,NOT THE ONE YOU LINKED.
I have seen results that suggest the non apo model is a little better than the canon 75-300 but sadly real ,hard facts are few and far between on that particular sigma :(
That said you can't go far wrong,it's not a terrible lens by any means :)
Can you tollerate slightly slow autofocus? If so then grab the Tamron 70-300LD 1:2 macro. It's inexpensive and has very decent image quality (actually one of the sharper consumer zooms at the long end !:D)
Paul Tinworth
28th of July 2006 (Fri), 06:35
Matatazela, as much as I'd love one, there is absolutely no way I'll ever be able to afford an L lens :(
Thanks for the advice, Ron! It looks like the APO version is out of my price-range as well, although I'll have a look at that Tamron :)
PhotoAlien
28th of July 2006 (Fri), 10:47
How about Tamron 70-300mm macro? I like mine and it was dirt cheap new.
The macro mode can be used between 180-300mm at 0.95m close range.
PhotoAlien
28th of July 2006 (Fri), 10:47
Doh, nevermind.
Fureinku
28th of July 2006 (Fri), 14:08
http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1773937&postcount=21
I vote Tamron, I owned the Canon EF 75-300 III USM for 3 days and returned it... www.fredmiranda.com, excellent lens reviews
EDIT:Mods, the larger pic is to show DOF and detail throughout...
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