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Lightstream
4th of August 2006 (Fri), 05:51
OH YEAH!!!!! It's here!

UPS came while I was out, so I requested they hold the package. They did, at some out-of-the way depot that was disguised and tucked away in the middle of nowhere. So after the drive from Hell accompanied by the Headache from Hell worsened by the blinding sun (I'm beginning to hate this 'sun' thing, that's why I want f/1.8 ), I finally get there, got grilled by them "Who called you about the package and what did they say" - well, wouldn't you people know, this company called UPS called me about the damn package.. they didn't know what was going on either!

Eventually they did find the package, because I was about to raise hell for the anonymous phone call making me drive all the way down for nothing, because the UPS guy on the phone did suggest I collect it in the evening and told me they would leave it there for me. They did not leave a note to the front desk however.

I got the package, but I went back in a bad mood anyway. Having the Headache from Hell did not help matters any, so I did not open up the package. Now that I'm feeling better...


Welcome the 28mm f/1.8 USM!!

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/albums/photos/abz.sized.jpg

I believe that just about every Canon's a sharp copy apart from the obviously defective or damaged, I have seen a 50 f/1.8 that was worthless and a 50 macro that looked like someone had vaselined it. Call me biased, I AM.


And I'm in love - (100% crop focused on the image stabilizer. You can see DOF at point blank range is so shallow that even the zoom markings fall away out of focus)

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/albums/photos/aby.sized.jpg

I have a criteria for my favorite lenses. They have to impress me within the first few frames I shoot with them. The 28 continues that beautiful tradition. This was the FIRST frame out of the lens, and nothing special - just popped it on the 5D and dialed in Av f/1.8 and let it blast away. I have NEVER seen f/1.8 look that sharp. This is a beast of a lens.

Build quality is excellent, I would rank this lens up there with my 60 macro and L zooms. Feels like the proverbial brick outhouse. The only difference is that the 60 and the L's have a textured plastic exterior, the 28 has a smooth exterior. But the plastic feels similarly solid, so I'll overlook the cosmetics. I have no preference either way.

Focus drive is everything I have come to expect of USM. The lens zips into focus just like what I'm used to from my L zooms. The 60 macro is currently my fastest-focusing lens, but that lens has already acquired a reputation for being unusually fast (at normal working ranges). The 60 beats it, but that's the only lens in the lot that can do it. The 28 runs neck and neck with the best. It sounds like it has a lot more glass to move around too.

And of course, wonderful on the 350D as well. Fast AF, a near-normal field of view, and the aperture. I wish I had this with me at an event I shot a few months ago, in 'available darkness'. We had official, hired-for-money professionals shooting, and I was a sideline shooter, so that ruled out flash since I did not want to interfere with the working pros. I was sufficiently far away from them that they didn't even hear my shutter click, and I took my quietest camera, the 350D. Wish I could say I was fond of the 50 f/1.8, which was the only thing I had back then. An 80mm equivalent is not the nicest of things to shoot with.

And with ISO 3200 on a 5D, plus a minimum requirement of 1/30 shutter speed to combat handshake blur (I can get people to stay still enough for 1/15, so that is not a worry), it's hard to imagine what I CAN'T do with this lens. :)

tbrasington
4th of August 2006 (Fri), 06:02
I am defintley getting this lens now. Come on the 15th August!

Lightstream
4th of August 2006 (Fri), 06:20
OK... ISO 3200 + 28 f/1.8 equals.....

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/albums/photos/aca.sized.jpg

At 1/15 sec shutter speed HANDHELD with nothing but a handstrap that's always around the camera anyway. That lens on the 5D is a light-sucking monster. No, I did not lean against anything, nor did I need to.

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It's almost pitch black outside, lit only by the specks of light from the building windows.

As I stepped back inside, I was thinking - what would it take to do better? The answer is simple - you can get wide, you can get fast. To get both, it's going to take a 24 f/1.4L, or a 35 f/1.4L. To buy either would involve selling off half my setup. For the price/performance, the 28 absolutely wipes the floor. This is the hidden almost-L. $399.95 at B&H.

Yes, I was a little concerned by the score of 7.9 that this lens got on Fred Miranda. Yes, I was a little concerned by light falloff in the corners. So I did a little testing - my 'field photocopier' test. This is the most demanding test I can cook up for a lens that doesn't require specialized hardware. What relevance does it have? Probably none unless you happen to use a certain lens for document archiving or copy work - which I actually do. I just use it to compare performance.

What I do is I lay a flat piece of printed paper with text all the way out to the edges, and then take a photo of it, filling the frame with the A4 or letter sized paper. The reference standard is my 60 macro, which true to its honest-to-goodness macro design and floating system, provides blindingly sharp text corner to corner as it was designed to. Zooms do not fare so well. Even the 50 f/1.8 gets beaten easily by the 60 macro.

Now.. test results: I'd be lying if I said the light falloff on full frame wasn't there. It is gone by f/2.8 though, as it should be. Corners are still soft at f/2.8, as they are at f/1.8. It's noticeable. The big surprise is at f/4. Even the corners are sharp, clear, and visible. Not quite the standard of the 60 macro, but I am still VERY, VERY surprised. Very impressed. Very useable in the corners. I would trust my documents to this lens especially when I need to get closer than a 50mm lens will let me. And bear in mind these are full frame corners on a 12.7MP sensor. APS-C users will probably like the results even more, and/or may need to stop down less. I took a few quick snaps with my 350D, corners are decent from f/1.8-2.2, good from f/2.5 and excellent from f/2.8 onwards. Wow. Big wow, seriously.

Expect a lot from this little gem. IT WILL DELIVER. $399 well spent.. I am really happy :)

And a HUGE thanks to all the people who have suggested I look at the 28 f/1.8 for general purpose low light shooting in my other thread. I love the focal length, the lens, and everything it delivers. When out in the field shooting in low light, corner performance is not as key, because in low light, things are generally not that sharp anyway because of the way light behaves. But it's good to know that if you feed this lens some good light, it will also show you everything it can do.

pfogle
4th of August 2006 (Fri), 06:32
congrats, and welcome to the 28/1.8 club :)
It sure is a wee cracker. Why oh why to some people (present company excepted!) shoot a crappy test frame wide open and then complain that the corners are soft and write the lens off as junk? What on Earth do they actually photograph???

tbrasington
4th of August 2006 (Fri), 06:36
OK... ISO 3200 + 28 f/1.8 equals.....

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/albums/photos/aca.sized.jpg



I really can't wait :shock:

Lightstream
4th of August 2006 (Fri), 06:39
Thanks pfogle :) I agree that if they want a true sharp corner-to-corner lens, go for a macro. That's what the macros are actually designed for - with things like optical quality, low distortion, and flat field performance in mind, not only 1:1 magnification. The 28 has soft corners but the way I see it, it does not seem to have a real world impact for typical uses of the 28. No, photocopying is NOT a typical use ;)

In return for the 28mm f/1.8 club membership, I shall provide more camera and lens pr0n for the POTN collection.... :mrgreen: :lol:

http://pix.lightrefineries.org/albums/photos/acb.sized.jpg


tbrasington: I have a feeling you will LOVE this lens, just as I did!

tbrasington
4th of August 2006 (Fri), 06:42
It calls me I could buy the lens now but I think I will do an all in one with the 5D come 15th when invoices are paid...

lmitch6
4th of August 2006 (Fri), 10:38
Let me give you another "Welcome to the 28 f/1.8 club". I swear by mine, and it always delivers for me. I don't get the "reviews" either, as pfogle said, I think it's people with a limited understanding of just how thin the DOF can be wide open and writing the lens off.

You'll develop a true love for this lens. Congrats!

genewch
4th of August 2006 (Fri), 11:00
So impressive! What a good experience in buying this lens. I'm considering that or a 24mm f/2.8, but this thread has put a big plus to the 28mm and I'm impressed. It seems to have helped me make the decision.

KevC
6th of August 2006 (Sun), 11:45
I want this lens. I already have the f/2.8 but my copy isn't the greatest (soft and doesn't deal with CA well).

Does it have ring or micro USM?

Lester Wareham
6th of August 2006 (Sun), 12:07
I want this lens. I already have the f/2.8 but my copy isn't the greatest (soft and doesn't deal with CA well).

Does it have ring or micro USM?

It has a ring USM as far as I can make out. (Confirmed with EF Lens Work III book)

The 1.8 has quite high CA but I can reduce that to about the same levels as the 17-40 using the CA adjustments in ACR, link (http://www.zen20934.zen.co.uk/photography/LensTests/EF_28mm_f1.8_USM/index.htm). If people want it they can download (http://www.zen20934.zen.co.uk/photography/LensTests/EF%2028%20f1_8%20ACR%20APS_C%20CA%20Correct.zip) my ACR XMP CA corrections, APS-C sensors only however.

Just a final note, this lens gets a lot of stick because of tests done with APS-C cameras. If you checkout the MTF data you see the fine detail curves dip around the corner of the APS-C frame and then go up again, so this lens should perform quite well on a full frame camera after CA correction.

CyberDyneSystems
6th of August 2006 (Sun), 12:42
It's real Ring USM,. and FAST to focus... it's build quality and focus performance are pretty much identical to the venerable 85mm f/1.8

KevC
6th of August 2006 (Sun), 12:56
28/1.8 and 85/1.8 have ring USM while 50/1.4 has micro? what's the deal with that, i'd say the 50 just as important (if not more).

Canon needs to come out with a 50/1.2L with the fastest USM anyone has ever seen. Call it "lightUSM" or something :D

CyberDyneSystems
6th of August 2006 (Sun), 13:14
And the 50mm costs 150.00 less,. that;s why. If it had the full Ring USM it might be approaching the $400.00 mark.

steved110
6th of August 2006 (Sun), 13:28
I take it there is a world of difference between the 28 1.8 and the 28 2.8 - very impressive.

From what I'm seeing written the 28 1.8 is probably the way to go to recapture my standard view, though i still have ahankering for either of the 35mm offerings ( just not the cash to go L!)

pfogle
6th of August 2006 (Sun), 13:54
I just found this test (http://www.zen20934.zen.co.uk/photography/LensTests/EF_28mm_f1.8_USM/index.htm), courtesy of Lester Wareham, to whom, thanks :)

Lightstream
7th of August 2006 (Mon), 02:42
I've handled the 50 f/1.4 in person and for some reason that lens totally did not rock my boat at all. It would be really nice if Canon would come out with, as you've said, a f/1.2L version with ring USM. I might consider buying it in that case. Then again I have never been particularly fond of the 50mm perspective anyway. 28 on FF.. ahh, beautiful. Now I actually see what my eye sees.

Olegis
7th of August 2006 (Mon), 03:32
Well, congradulations ! I myself almost had the funds to buy this lens, but the car decided to break last week and the money had to go that way. That's the second time something prevents me from buying this lens - last month the PC gave me troubles and the motherboard (and few more parts) had to be replaced. I just hope it's not some kind of "sign from above" not to get this lens :rolleyes: