Photoshop CS ?

[BayAreaPhotog]

Is there going to be a Photoshop 8 or is CS the next version?

According to Adobe, the system requirements for CS are Windows 2000 with service pack. . . is Windows 2000 the same as Windows ME?

Also, what is the Service Pack?

[KarlJones]

Adobe decided to eschew the numbers and go with new designations. Photoshop 8, as we would have previously known it, is now called Photoshop CS.

Windows 2000 and Windows ME are two different OS'es. You could of course use Windows XP, also.

Service packs are for the most part Windows updates. Service packs include updates, system administration tools, drivers, and additional components. Service packs are cumulative so each new pack will have all of the previous fixes as well as the new ones.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Just read Photoshop CS system requirements on the web site:

System requirements



Intel® Pentium® III or 4 processor

Microsoft® Windows® 2000 with Service Pack 3 or Windows XP

192MB of RAM (256MB recommended)

280MB of available hard-disk space

Color monitor with 16-bit color or greater video card

1,024x768 or greater monitor resolution

CD-ROM drive

Internet or phone connection required for product activation

It seems that Windows ME IS NOT supported??????

Which wouod mean no Win98 either?

wow.

[UK_Terry]

CyberDyneSystems wrote:
Just read Photoshop CS system requirements on the web site:

System requirements



Internet or phone connection required for product activation

It seems that Windows ME IS NOT supported??????

Which wouod mean no Win98 either?

wow.





and the big "MUST HAVE" Internet or phone connection required for product activation

a friend of mine has had PS since V4 and upgraded each time, now he will not be able to...he does not have (or want) Internet or phone connection.

[psk4363]

Karl is perfectly correct re his summing up.

CyberDyne Systems - you too are correct. Only Windows XP and 2000 (with service packs 1 and 2 installed) are the only operating systems that will run PS CS. So those still on Win 95, 98, 98 SE, or Me will either have to upgrade to XP or 2000 or do without what is, IMHO, the best Photoshop yet for photographers.

UK_Terry - you do need either an internet connection or a phone line, but the phone line does not have to be connected via your computer for activation purposes. You can ring Adobe direct and manually input the data they give you to activate CS.

I bought CS just under two weeks ago (the full package, not the upgrade) after playing around with it on a computer belonging to a press photographer friend of mine. Believe me the cost is not inconsiderable for a salaried cop like me but the difference between CS and 7 is as great as the leap from 3 to 4 (I think) when Adobe introduced layers. As someone on one of the other forums put it, "If you haven't yet got a copy run, don't walk, to your supplier and get one".

Cheers,
Barry

[PacAce]

psk4363 wrote:
Karl is perfectly correct re his summing up.

CyberDyne Systems - you too are correct. Only Windows XP and 2000 (with service packs 1 and 2 installed) are the only operating systems that will run PS CS.

As CDS mentioned earlier, you DO need service pack 3 on Windows 2000. PS CS may run with SP1 or SP2 but, since the requirement is W2K with SP3, you probably won't get support from ADOBE if you encounter any problems with it unless you have SP3 installed.

[w10d]

UK_Terry wrote:...he does not have (or want) Internet or phone connection.



No phone?

Wow, at least he has electricity...

Also, CS requires Mac OSX, any older systems can't use it. But, you don't need to activate the Mac version. I guess phoneless people could get Macs....

[UK_Terry]

w10d wrote:
UK_Terry wrote:...he does not have (or want) Internet or phone connection.



No phone?

Wow, at least he has electricity...

Also, CS requires Mac OSX, any older systems can't use it. But, you don't need to activate the Mac version. I guess phoneless people could get Macs....


And another point to note... i Have Norton system works 2003...today i carried out my usual weekly, one button check-up.

later in the day opened PS8 (cs) and it said my computer config had changed and i had to re-activate!!!!! wow. does this mean every slight change re-activation will be req'd??

how many times are you allowed to re-activate???

Beginning to think i should have stuck with 5.5

[CyberDyneSystems]

hmmmmmm..... this is why we need cracks.. so that we can use the software we allready willingly paid over $600.00 for!

[psk4363]

Hi Terry,

I too run Norton Systemworks 2003 and have not had any problems running Win Doctor together with PS CS.

My understanding re the activation is that PS CS creates a number upon activation which is unique to your computers hardware combined with the product key for PS CS. I can't understand how running Norton can affect the computers set-up in such a way that the activation number is altered.

Cheers,
Barry

[UK_Terry]

psk4363 wrote:
Hi Terry,

I too run Norton Systemworks 2003 and have not had any problems running Win Doctor together with PS CS.

My understanding re the activation is that PS CS creates a number upon activation which is unique to your computers hardware combined with the product key for PS CS. I can't understand how running Norton can affect the computers set-up in such a way that the activation number is altered.

Cheers,
Barry

No i didn't think it could...but it did.

[John_T]

Terry, it could be that Win Doctor corrected some registry entries that were wrong and that changed the system description. If it is now correct, maybe that won't happen again. In regard to activation, XP can be amazingly finicky sometimes on a small system change and then ignore some other major change. Who knows what makes these guys tick...

[UK_Terry]

John_T wrote:
Terry, it could be that Win Doctor corrected some registry entries that were wrong and that changed the system description. If it is now correct, maybe that won't happen again. In regard to activation, XP can be amazingly finicky sometimes on a small system change and then ignore some other major change. Who knows what makes these guys tick...

that is true, there were some "Registry Errors" that One button check up fixed.

i put it down to the fact that i uninstalled the previous PS program.

[pradeep1]

Photoshop CS has been cracked I believe to alleviate this annoyance.

[evilenglishman]

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[ilya]

Some observations about Photoshop CS....

only a full format would bring about a need to re-activate. A low-level format won't even do it. I have Norton, and I ran their fix incl registry several times, and the activation was not effected. Plus, while its a minor inconvenience, a call to re-re-reactivate shouldn't be a problem. I bet that you can ask them to give permission to install on more then two of your machines, and they'd let you without a problem. I can see a real PR problem if that isn't the case.

IMO if it wasn't for RAW, this would be an ok upgrade. You really don't need any of the other stuff they put in there, but the RAW function is incredibly well done. Shadow/Highlight and Replace Color are gimmicky and are no replacement for hard work (or at least hard work encapsulated into actions). I like the histogram. I like enhancements to the file browser. I don't like that they changed the opening screen logo, I liked the old one. Proper 16-bit editing was long overdue, and is nice to have. Panos are nice, including the perspective function, but I haven't had a chance to really test that.

The rest of the stuff is just tweaks.

Re: cracking, I know someone who went and "borrowed" PS7, and then upgraded properly to CS for $170. I suppose that beats $600 or $300 if going up from Elements.

[UK_Terry]

ilya wrote:
Some observations about Photoshop CS....

only a full format would bring about a need to re-activate.




I am afraid you are wrong, today i opened up Norton Systemworks 2003. Ran the one button checkup, it found 2 errors in Registry...3 In Program Integrity...and 20 shortcuts.
i then ran the Fix program.

afterwards i opens PS..cs and guess what. see for yourself.


http://www.robinsfc.co.uk/Forum_Posts/PSCS1.jpg

and then.

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http://www.robinsfc.co.uk/Forum_Posts/PSCS2.jpg

And before anyone asks...yes i have a legal registered product.

[Roger_Cavanagh]

UK_Terry wrote:

I am afraid you are wrong, today i opened up Norton Systemworks 2003. Ran the one button checkup, it found 2 errors in Registry...3 In Program Integrity...and 20 shortcuts.
i then ran the Fix program.

Terry,

Did you just NSW do the auto-fix? I wouldn't recommend that. In fact, I got so pissed off with Norton Utiliites screwing up systems that I have uninstalled everything except NAV. I wouldn't even use that, if Panda Antivirus had got their act together with an XP version and I was forced to go back to NAV.

Regards,

[UK_Terry]

Roger_Cavanagh wrote:
UK_Terry wrote:

I am afraid you are wrong, today i opened up Norton Systemworks 2003. Ran the one button checkup, it found 2 errors in Registry...3 In Program Integrity...and 20 shortcuts.
i then ran the Fix program.

Terry,

Did you just NSW do the auto-fix? I wouldn't recommend that. In fact, I got so pissed off with Norton Utiliites screwing up systems that I have uninstalled everything except NAV. I wouldn't even use that, if Panda Antivirus had got their act together with an XP version and I was forced to go back to NAV.

Regards,

Hi Roger

yes i did let it autofix, and like you i am getting a little Pissed off....although i was thinking it was PScs.......but like you say it may be Norton.

it had crossed my mind to take Norton off, but i do need a decent AV....with the computer being connected all the time.

[ilya]

Terry, it appears that your mileage varies. I was simply recounting my own experience supported by what the Adobe's documentation says.

[UK_Terry]

ilya wrote:
Terry, it appears that your mileage varies. I was simply recounting my own experience supported by what the Adobe's documentation says.

hi Ilya

yes i think it might.

i am going to do what roger suggests and get rid of system works and just keep the AV.

[Be_there]

Terry

I have Systemworks on Windows XP and I've turned the whole lot off apart from Antivirus. Norton Utilities used to be worthwhile but on XP Pro it seems like an unstable piece of dated junk.

[Ferdinand]

Dooooom I tell yaaa........... DOOOOOOOOOOOM







just thought I ligthen things up a bit in here :)

And yes Photoshop CS is a great product, I am not even using any of the software that came with my Digital Rebel anymore.

Terry, I haven't used System Works since Windows 98SE. Found it to be a resource hog. And if you have WinXP Pro, I don't think you really need any of those System Works features. I keep my machine as simple as possible, and as little behind the scene application as possible.

Regards,
Ferdinand

[King]

Hi evilenglishman,

I have PS 7.0.1 is there a RAW plug in for this version and if so where would I get it?

Thanks in advance,
Roy

[PhotoAZ]

If you go to the Adobe they may still have the Raw plug in for sale. The thing is it cost $99, the upgrade from PS 7 to CS is $165. With the upgrade you get a better browser, Raw convert that works right from the browser, Highlight/Shadow filter, Photo stich, color replacement tool, Improvements in Image Ready, Improved Histogram that works in real time which is great if you use Curves, and improvements in layers.

[King]

Thanks for the info PhotoAZ

[Ferdinand]

King just a heads up you might want to check and ask about the plugin before you get it.

I know Photoshop CS does read Canon CRW RAW files direct.

And I did read that the RAW plugin for 7.x might not work for Digital Rebel.

So like PhotoAZ said, you might be better off getting the upgrade to CS.

Good luck.

[King]

Thanks Ferdinand,

I just might stick to the old ways for a while... I'm not to keen on the activation procedures that is inherent with PSCS

Roy

[newdamage1]

Ferdinand wrote:
I know Photoshop CS does read Canon CRW RAW files direct.

And I did read that the RAW plugin for 7.x might not work for Digital Rebel.


Good luck.


Just tried it with my DR, it's a no go so far. =(

http://seabass.dynup.net/error.jpg

[King]

Ouch, I hate that... Kelly, keep us posted on a work around.

Thanks in advance,
Roy

[CyberDyneSystems]

All that Norton crap is bloat-ware to slow down you PC and force you to buy more ram and faster CPUs....

Avoid it like the plague!

[newdamage1]

The Raw plug-in inside CS does work, if you take your flash and put it in a card reader. I was kind of hoping to have it work directly from the Camera so when I'm on the road it would be one less thing to hook up. CS does actually browse the files on the camera relatively quickly, to bad it doesn't work. (yet) :)

Has anyone with a 10D had any luck with a direct from Camera import?