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clayk
24th of November 2003 (Mon), 13:46
I shot a football game this weekend (LSU and Ole Miss) where the lighting was a challenge. I decided to shoot RAW for the first time at a competitive event on deadline. What a difference !! I will never go back to JPEG.
I decided to buy some 4 gig cards, but was surprised to find out they were incompatible with the 1D. Is this correct? Is thsi something that Canon could fixe with a firmware update or will it require new hardware?
Canuck
24th of November 2003 (Mon), 14:30
clayk wrote:
I shot a football game this weekend (LSU and Ole Miss) where the lighting was a challenge. I decided to shoot RAW for the first time at a competitive event on deadline. What a difference !! I will never go back to JPEG.
I decided to buy some 4 gig cards, but was surprised to find out they were incompatible with the 1D. Is this correct? Is thsi something that Canon could fixe with a firmware update or will it require new hardware?
Hi!
I would think the problem is that the 1D isn't FAT32 compatable, therefore giving you aforementioned problem. I'm looking at www.dpreview.com for the leading particulars on that camera. I'm thinking it is FAT 16 compatable only.
As for an upgrade, check the Canon website, www.canoneos.com and you might also enquire with Canon, as they are in Lake Success, NY. It is a 01516/0800 number. It should be in the operating manual at any rate. I can't find the info I'm looking for, and at any rate, I suspect that is the issue at hand. I think FAT16 only will take up to 2 GB.
Cheers from England,
Canuck
maderito
24th of November 2003 (Mon), 16:22
I believe all of the EOS digital cameras are compatible with FAT16 and FAT32 file systems. However, there are apparently compatiblity issues with the new 4GB CF cards.
See: http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/08/05/HNlexar_1.html?hardware
Phil Hall
24th of November 2003 (Mon), 16:29
The 1D is NOT compatible with FAT 32. You have to reformat them. I use 1 gig microdrives and (rarely) a portable 30 gig harddrive. The camera always says there are a max of 191 shots available (4.1 meg RAW), however, I sometimes get 241 shots if I do not check the counter( 241 x 4.1 meg is approx 1 gig).
clayk
24th of November 2003 (Mon), 16:47
I do not have the camera with me now, but I think my camera says that I get approximately 117 RAW images on a 1 gig card. The goal, of course, is to get as many as possible. What effect does the size of the JPEG preview make and do I need a JPEg with the RAW?
BTW: If you want to see one of the shots, go to http://www.sportsshooter.com/clayk
It is the top picture
CyberDyneSystems
24th of November 2003 (Mon), 17:33
Yiu don't need a jpeg,.. but I don't know if you can turn the jpeg off on the 1D (you can't with the 10D) reducing the jpeg size will make your total image size a little smaller though,. but the jpeg is small compoared to the raw.
If the 1D does not support Fat 32 you should return those cards,. trade them in for 2 gig cards or smaller. (FAT16 will work on drives up to 2 gig)
clayk
24th of November 2003 (Mon), 18:07
Thanks. Can you tell me who makes some 2 gig cards? My vendor does not carry them.
defordphoto
24th of November 2003 (Mon), 18:29
The D30, D60 and 1D cameras do not support FAT32 and hence nothing more than a 1gig card.
MarkH
24th of November 2003 (Mon), 18:46
clayk wrote:
Thanks. Can you tell me who makes some 2 gig cards? My vendor does not carry them.
Try Ridata. They have some new 52x 2GB cards available. I am not sure who the best retailer is in your neck of the woods, in Australia it would be :
https://secure3.ozhosting.com/powermarket/pm_stores/PINStore/client/store.asp
I might consider one if I ever get my credit card paid off.
CyberDyneSystems
24th of November 2003 (Mon), 19:48
RFMSports wrote:
The D30, D60 and 1D cameras do not support FAT32 and hence nothing more than a 1gig card.
Really? One gig? Why can't they handle 2 gig? FAT 16s limit is 2 gig.
The maximum number of clusters for a 16-bit FAT drive is 64K. And the maximum cluster size for a FAT16 drive in Windows Me/98/95 and MS-DOS is 32KB. Therefore, the maximum logical drive size for FAT16 is calculated as follows:
64K x 32 KB = 2048 MB = 2 GB
wolverine
24th of November 2003 (Mon), 21:10
There is a guy on Ebay called yourpchero. He sells almost Ridata almost exclusively. I have purchased four cards off him so far. Excellent to deal with, not to mention, excellent cards. He has up to 2gig.
defordphoto
24th of November 2003 (Mon), 21:24
CyberDyneSystems wrote:
RFMSports wrote:
The D30, D60 and 1D cameras do not support FAT32 and hence nothing more than a 1gig card.
Really? One gig? Why can't they handle 2 gig? FAT 16s limit is 2 gig.
The maximum number of clusters for a 16-bit FAT drive is 64K. And the maximum cluster size for a FAT16 drive in Windows Me/98/95 and MS-DOS is 32KB. Therefore, the maximum logical drive size for FAT16 is calculated as follows:
64K x 32 KB = 2048 MB = 2 GB
Ahh yeah. My mistake. 2gig.
CyberDyneSystems
24th of November 2003 (Mon), 21:51
Dang,.. those Ridata 2 gigs are over $500.00!!!
Well,. I guess thats about the going rate per gig of fast CF card,.. but ,.. oh my!
defordphoto
24th of November 2003 (Mon), 22:05
CyberDyneSystems wrote:
Dang,.. those Ridata 2 gigs are over $500.00!!!
Well,. I guess thats about the going rate per gig of fast CF card,.. but ,.. oh my!
That's why my mind was at the 1gig limit because anything above that it prohibitively expensive. 1gig cards with a 6.3mp camera is just right. Even 512 is fine too, but I prefer 1gig esp when shooting sports.
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