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ACDCROCKS
4th of September 2006 (Mon), 00:16
Hey all.
$73,000 (let alone a house over my head, books, etc) is a lot for me to got o the Pitts. Art Institute. I was talking to a fellow photog and he said his one friend went to the New York Institute of Photography. Price is $1000, seems suspicous, I follow the rule " You get what you pay for". Would this "institute" help me by having it on my portfolio? I know my work is most important. Here is a qoute in the booklet they sent me. " Many NYI students pursue photography strictly as a hobby"-New York Institute of Photography. I don't know about you, but red flags went up. I seriously don't know what to do. People tell me the local college in my area doesn't even have a good photography course, I do how ever want to do a buisness degree. Is experience over powerinAny Tips?

Benji
4th of September 2006 (Mon), 08:12
I took the course in 1983. If you are good at reading something and being able to visualize it, then it might do you some good. BUT if you are better at learning by doing you may want to reconsider. I've found it is a little like kindergarten, I can't remember anything of any use that I got out of it, but I'm sure it helped me! This course starts you out at the very beginning (which is a VERY good idea!) Then progresses at basically your own speed. The certificate of completion looks great hanging on the wall and I've had numerous people comment on it.

Benji

ACDCROCKS
4th of September 2006 (Mon), 12:22
I work for a pro. photographer, would this Institute be worth anythign since I have over 1 year expeirence?

breal101
4th of September 2006 (Mon), 20:13
Just an opinion but you might consider pursuing a degree in marketing and business while you continue to work with the pro. Being a pro is probably 80% business and 20% photography.

bwolford
7th of September 2006 (Thu), 16:47
#1, if you do take the NYIP course, don't sign up right away. They will send you a 30% discount in 3-4 months. Wait.

#2, you work for a pro, why do you need to go to school. If she/he's good follow her/him around and soak up every bit of knowledge they have until you can duplicate and improve on their work.

Brice

Stephie
8th of September 2006 (Fri), 00:52
Im in NYIP, aside from the 'love of film' it's okay. I've slacked off abit after my first 3 lessons b/c lessons 4-6 are on film.

coreypolis
8th of September 2006 (Fri), 02:30
If you are going to go to school, stick with the big ones, Brooks Inst, RIT etc

johnlo
8th of September 2006 (Fri), 19:35
i used it.. stopped after the second lesson. I just couldnt get into any of the lesson. this was about 8-9 yrs ago. just over the summer, i decided to take a photography class.... like that alot better.. had an excellent instructor who I can ask question and get an answer back right away... i guess i am a classroom learner.

Shutter22
9th of September 2006 (Sat), 20:45
I plan on going to my local college and getting a degree in business and taking classes on photography. My selected college has a good college magazine with a reputation for getting students great internships, so I think I'll be pretty well off.

mommymartin
9th of September 2006 (Sat), 22:57
i've been thinking about taking the course lately I looked into it a while ago and was very unsure from what I've read about it you can learn just as much from your local library for free and post on here and receive lots of comments..lol...its nice to hear from some other people who have or are taking the course though any other imput any one has about it would be awesome

JaertX
9th of September 2006 (Sat), 23:02
I plan on going to my local college and getting a degree in business and taking classes on photography. My selected college has a good college magazine with a reputation for getting students great internships, so I think I'll be pretty well off.

this seems like the smartest way to go.

You're going to learn all the business/marketing stuff at school (which is very importrant and can be applied to another field when you find out you hate being a photographer for a living!)

You get all the basics in photography you need which will make you an attractive hire to a pro needing a second shooter/assistant, which is where you will really learn!


Throw in a few summer seminars from leading pros (Monte Zucker still teaches!) and you're set.

JaertX
9th of September 2006 (Sat), 23:03
and, um...do it before you have a family and can't! lol

RichNY
17th of September 2006 (Sun), 02:52
NYIP is a mail order course http://www.nyip.com/gen_info/info.php?ovcpn=DP&ovtac=PPC&code=D01&ovchn=GGL&ovcrn=new+york+institute+of+photography&kw=new+york+institute+of+photography&gclid=CKHQ7MSYtIcCFQWSFQodfGO8TA

Some interesting dirt on Brooks http://ddunleavy.typepad.com/the_big_picture/2005/07/investigation_c.html

maxyedor
18th of September 2006 (Mon), 03:18
Yep Brooks has some scandles and so does every major College. But as a current working pro, and Brooks Student I can attest to the quality of education. I for one didn't read the enrolment enticements they sent, didn't talk to my admissions rep much, I just talked to people I respected in the industry. The false job promisses lawsuit is stupid, if you really expect a garunteed sallary upon graduation then you too are pretty dim.

Generally a real degree will cost a pretty penny, a mail-order class will be cheap. You can learn everything you need to know on your own without ever going to school, it's just quicker if you do. You go to school for the networking and conections, being able to put Pulitzer Prize winning journalists (instructers at Brooks) down as my references on my resume isn't hurting me much either.

coreypolis
18th of September 2006 (Mon), 12:10
NYIP is a mail order course http://www.nyip.com/gen_info/info.php?ovcpn=DP&ovtac=PPC&code=D01&ovchn=GGL&ovcrn=new+york+institute+of+photography&kw=new+york+institute+of+photography&gclid=CKHQ7MSYtIcCFQWSFQodfGO8TA

Some interesting dirt on Brooks http://ddunleavy.typepad.com/the_big_picture/2005/07/investigation_c.html
:rolleyes:

while some of what they say is true, this "investigation" is based off an EMAIL survey returned by 14 former students out of 121 they sent it out to. Hmm, and who is more likely to respod to a survey, someone whos had a good, indifferent or bad expereience. ;)

CipherMe
18th of September 2006 (Mon), 13:13
Unfortunately, I am in this program right now. The technical information for the basics of exposure, composition are accurate but the material is essentially fim focused. The materials were created in the late 70's and 80's and most are just 'reprinted" for 2006. Some have been updated some but they are really dated by todays standards.

I completed all of the reading and video watching in less than a month. I just have to shoot about two dozen photos and turn in for the photo assignments and I will be done. So much for a program they give you three years to complete.

They include a "special digital photography report" which was done in 2002 and has not been updated. So you know how relevant most of that information is.

As for price I called and ask what is the best price I can get and I received the course for $678.00 paid up front. My recommendation is take the same money and build up a good library of current and relevant photography books, online courses, or videos. You will be a lot better off.