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Skypoke
10th of December 2003 (Wed), 07:51
Hi all,
I've had my Drebel for about a week now and have been very impressed with the capabilities. I'm now in the lens lust phase and trying to figure out which kid to sell...
But one thing I am greatly concerned about is the sealing, or lack thereof, of the body. I live about 1/4 mile from the beach and this place is inherently windy with much blowing sand. What brought this to mind was eyeballing the CF slot gaps. I know it won't be long till particles make their way in. I also tend to keep my equipment till it's pretty well used up, I'd hope to get the same ten year service I got out of my A1.
So my Q is this. Is the 10D sealed tighter? If so I'm going to trade up, still have a couple days to exchange.
I'd appreciate your opinions, frankly I don't need the additional capabilities of the 10D but if a few hundred $ will double the lifespan it's a good investment.
Thanks for all the good info I've gotten from you old hands, been lurking for awhile. Wait till spring break and I'll post some shots...

Chuck

PaulB
10th of December 2003 (Wed), 09:18
Chuck,

Not sure about a couple of things in your post.

1/ Doubt that any body will withstand ingress of fine windblown particles for long - the 1D and 1Ds loads better than either the DR or the 10D but suspect that the build of the 10D is going to be longer lasting overall than the DR.

2/ This point might just give you cause to reconsider your intended lifespan for whichever body you end up with.
NO DSLR built today is intended to be still in use in ten years time! Given the speed of development in electronics we may have technological leaps in the next few years than none of us can even guess at. Look at the PC ten years ago and compare it with the ones you get now.
It is possible that in ten years we may not have the ability to read CF cards - who knows?

That said I suggest you INVEST in really good lenses - a couple of L lenses will outlive two, three or four changes of body and are really worthwhile in the long run.

Malaxos1
10th of December 2003 (Wed), 12:13
Wow, a 1/4 mile from the beach. I wouldn't worry about the compact flash slot only. The truth is that salt air tends to find it's way into all cameras and lenses. I have looked around to see if there is an underwater body for the Rebel and there isn't, I do know that there are special bags for shooting at the beach, this should help. I would store tha camera somewhere safe.

droosan
10th of December 2003 (Wed), 12:17
PaulB wrote:
NO DSLR built today is intended to be still in use in ten years time!


I respectfully disagree, in certain cases. A small town newspaper buying an EOS-1D today, expects to be using it up to ten years and Canon has built it that way. Sure, in a few years, users will want the latest, but the 1D will still be good enough, as far as their bosses are concerned.

robertwgross
10th of December 2003 (Wed), 12:50
Guys! Notice that there are three different cameras being discussed here, and they are similar, but not identical.

A Digital Rebel is not a 10D, which is not a 1D. They don't seal up the same way.

---Bob Gross---

PaulB
10th of December 2003 (Wed), 15:07
Just making the point that the DR is not as well sealed as the 10D and in turn the 10D is not as well sealed as a 1D - you pays your money and ..................

As for the built-in obsolescence of Digital cameras; who would have guessed that since the D30 was introduced 'till now it has been superseded TWICE, in how many years? The D60 lasted less than a year!

Malaxos1
10th of December 2003 (Wed), 15:54
droosan wrote:
PaulB wrote:
NO DSLR built today is intended to be still in use in ten years time!


I respectfully disagree, in certain cases. A small town newspaper buying an EOS-1D today, expects to be using it up to ten years and Canon has built it that way. Sure, in a few years, users will want the latest, but the 1D will still be good enough, as far as their bosses are concerned.


I am not so sure that this is a true. I have recently seen ain the Portland Oregonian newspaper that the photography staff were selling their Nikon D1's for $1500 so that they can upgrade. I almost bought one until I found out that newspaper photographers really work their equipment to death and that it may not be long before I was looking for a new one. They buy and sell this stuff all the time and don't plan on keeping it for 10 years...Dean

droosan
11th of December 2003 (Thu), 09:14
PaulB wrote:
As for the built-in obsolescence of Digital cameras; who would have guessed that since the D30 was introduced 'till now it has been superseded TWICE, in how many years? The D60 lasted less than a year!

True, but those D30's are still in use, and still more desirable than many new cameras (current DSLR's excepted). I know many film-slr photographers who would love one.

droosan
11th of December 2003 (Thu), 09:19
Malaxos1 wrote:
I am not so sure that this is a true. I have recently seen ain the Portland Oregonian newspaper that the photography staff were selling their Nikon D1's for $1500 so that they can upgrade. I almost bought one until I found out that newspaper photographers really work their equipment to death and that it may not be long before I was looking for a new one. They buy and sell this stuff all the time and don't plan on keeping it for 10 years...Dean

I don't think of Portland as a small town. :) I can't vouch for a N*** camera, but a Canon 1-series camera would still have some life in it even after a couple years at a newspaper, especially if you don't plan to use it as hard.