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jev
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 17:58
Being a member of this forum and looking though some picture and equipement talk, I have finally surrended.

Just recently on my trip to Washington DC i was offered new
24-70 f/2.8 L and 70-200 f/2.8 L IS for 2500$

Both brand new boxed and with warranty
Could not take it anymore and took a plunge :)

And my rebelxt finally started performing like a real camera, the quality and colors is just amaizing. Before i had sigma 18-200, ehh what a difference

So be carefull out here :)

Billginthekeys
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 18:00
wow and new to boot. pretty darn good deal. saved a few hundred bucks. muxh congrats, im sure you are seriously psyched

Dante King
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 18:00
OH, if they offer you any more L glass, new in boxes at ridiculous prices, CONTACT ME!!!

Congrats. Welcome to the club.

cjm
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 18:01
Wow that is a good price for those two lenses.

jev
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 18:13
Yes i am very excited :)
The story was actually funny, i will keep the store name out, but will share details.

So i come in into the store and 3 guys are arguing with the guy at the counter to give them 30$ off some $200 lens. I asked for 24-70 he gave me a lens and said somewhere around 1.1K, then I asked for 70-200 IS he said yes we have it

At that point he asked those guys to move somewhere and make a decision about their purchase.

I am asking for the price, he says it's 2900 +tax
I tested both lenses and first time they bought me 70-200 non IS, I asked for IS version and tested it

I told him i can spend 2500$, i guess it was really slow week for them, so after 15 minutes of arguing we agreed to that price. BUT tax was still an issue.
So i pull out my European passport, (i live in New York but not a citizen) he says, fine I will not charge a tax

At that point i could not pass
Go figure, negotiations sometimes pay off

Bubble
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 18:18
you can get the same lens config from BH (psaug) for $2700. No tax. Buying from local with tax comes out the same. :)

So you can get away on tax with your European passport but for us, it's not that crazy compare to BH. :)

welcome to the "L" world. :)

jev
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 18:27
Bubble,

the fact that i bought new L glass does not mean i am newcomer,
I did my research

with (psaug) US versions with warranty 70-200 $1600 + 24-70 $1100 plus in New York 8.5% tax ($230)
Comes to $2930 total from B&H

I am not a fan of bying expensive lenses online without testing and then spend more time exchanging or fixing those

Anyway savings of about $430 are good enough to make me happy :)

Dante King
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 18:37
forgive Bubble, he is turning out quite quickly to be the pricing police arm of POTN.

tdaugharty
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 18:38
OH, if they offer you any more L glass, new in boxes at ridiculous prices, CONTACT ME!!!

Congrats. Welcome to the club.

Like you need more ;)

Dante King
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 18:40
Like you need more ;)

HA! moderation is for people that cant handle EXCESS!!

lensview
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 22:07
An excellent deal on those two excellent lenses.
I trust you will declare them for the purpose of import duty and tax application upon return to your country of origin.;)

MrWills
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 22:13
Grats man I just need the 24-70m to make me happy. :) ok ok ok I lied and a few more L's and then I will be happy.

Billginthekeys
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 22:19
Grats man I just need the 24-70m to make me happy. :) ok ok ok I lied and a few more L's and then I will be happy.

no you wont :|

calicokat
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 22:49
Congrats on some awesome lenses at awesome prices :)

Bubble
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 23:48
Bubble,

the fact that i bought new L glass does not mean i am newcomer,
I did my research

with (psaug) US versions with warranty 70-200 $1600 + 24-70 $1100 plus in New York 8.5% tax ($230)
Comes to $2930 total from B&H

I am not a fan of bying expensive lenses online without testing and then spend more time exchanging or fixing those

Anyway savings of about $430 are good enough to make me happy :)

oh no, i never say you're a newcomer. In fact, you still can give out your passport when you shop at BH and don't have to pay tax right? Anyway, CONGRAT on your new lens. DOn't mind me about pricing stuff. :rolleyes:

Bubble
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 23:49
forgive Bubble, he is turning out quite quickly to be the pricing police arm of POTN.

nah..just some common sense. Sometime people just get too excite on thing that they thought it's a good deal.

jev
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 00:04
Anyways, to put the end to prcing issues i can find where i can spend $200-400
Like having a good dinner, definately need to make a break with buying new lenses

Lotto
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 02:30
Congrats on the killer combo. Dude, you sure know how to bragain!

JaGWiRE
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 02:44
Congrats on the killer combo. Dude, you sure know how to bragain!

When people begin getting frusterated with me I usually begin apologizing for bargaining. I really suck at bargaining I guess.

Were you arguing, or just negotiating? Big difference imo. Arguing is like "Give me $50 off." "No." Negotiating is like. "Well, I've got $1500 to spend, and I realise this lens is $1600. Is there anything we can do..."

jev
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 10:41
I try to go for "corporate" approach
I say "my budget today is X $, and i am spending a lot of money, so you can take it or I will look somewhere else" It's up to the seller to determine if my offer is reasonable to them

Wilt
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 11:00
OH, if they offer you any more L glass, new in boxes at ridiculous prices, CONTACT ME!!!

Congrats. Welcome to the club.

If you don't stop doing that, you'll go blind!

Dante King
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 11:20
If you don't stop doing that, you'll go blind!

HAHA!

Tareq
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 16:06
I just was thinking if i keep buying every 2 or 3 months and if i will have long life, what will i have till i reach 40 or 50 years old?
still i didn't complete one year when i got my first digital camera (Nikon coolpix8800) and i am still need more and not finish to stop buying.

Wilt
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 16:13
I just was thinking if i keep buying every 2 or 3 months and if i will have long life, what will i have till i reach 40 or 50 years old?
still i didn't complete one year when i got my first digital camera (Nikon coolpix8800) and i am still need more and not finish to stop buying.

A nearly empty wallet? ? ? ?

Tareq
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 19:46
A nearly empty wallet? ? ? ?

I am already empty wallet, otherwise i will keep buying more, lol

InfamousDX
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 19:48
Wow... now that was a deal. I wouldn't pass it up either. Good job!

SuzyView
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 20:06
Where in DC was this. I live here. Think they'd give me a 5D for $2400? :)

mikechong
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 00:31
In fact, you still can give out your passport when you shop at BH and don't have to pay tax right?

Is that true? I thought travellers have to pay sales tax just like any New Yorker. I was visiting NY last year and bought some stuff for B&H. Showed my foreign passport (as ID for credit card purchase), but got charged tax anyhow. OK, i didn't ask for tax exemption, but if it is possible, I'll make sure I'll ask next time. Can anyone confirm?

condyk
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 04:44
Nice lens that 70-200mm 2.8. I bought some stuff at B&H one time and told them I was from the UK and the guy said I still had to pay tax.

bombay_shutterbug
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 09:42
Nice lens that 70-200mm 2.8. I bought some stuff at B&H one time and told them I was from the UK and the guy said I still had to pay tax.

I bought my 30D from B&H and showed my passport but still had to pay ST. I plan to buy my 70-200 2.8 IS from B&H next month. Please let me know if the ST can be avoided by showing a foreign passport and taking it out of the US.

Thanks

Wilt
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 10:05
I bought my 30D from B&H and showed my passport but still had to pay ST. I plan to buy my 70-200 2.8 IS from B&H next month. Please let me know if the ST can be avoided by showing a foreign passport and taking it out of the US.

Thanks

Generally if you walk into the store in the U.S, you have to pay the state/local sales tax. Only if the goods are SHIPPED to an out of state address can the sale be made without the state and local tax levied.

Generally there is no tax rebate similar to VAT refund when buying in many countries that impose VAT. (Canada often has General Sales Tax and Provincial tax, and only the GST is refundable if claimed upon filing for refund.)

jev
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 10:57
Yes this is correct generally you have to pay tax. B&H is a great store and I also buy things there sometimes, but at the same time it's a conveyer. The only way to advoid tax would be to buy lens from a smaller store where you can negotiate directly with owner or order from B&H to you friends address outside of New York

cgratti
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 11:43
Yes this is correct generally you have to pay tax. B&H is a great store and I also buy things there sometimes, but at the same time it's a conveyer. The only way to advoid tax would be to buy lens from a smaller store where you can negotiate directly with owner or order from B&H to you friends address outside of New York


Send your stuff to my home in PA, no tax!...LOL..I will be glad to hold/test it for you until you come get it.

Wilt
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 12:18
Send your stuff to my home in PA, no tax!...LOL..I will be glad to hold/test it for you until you come get it.

And, better yet, when the stuff is finally imported into your home country, you can legitimately bring it in as USED GOODS due to cgratti's usage, and you save yourself some taxes bringing into the country!

TMR Design
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 12:25
...you can get the same lens config from BH (psaug)...

I keep seeing PSAUG and the reference to better pricing. What is that? Someone once just gave me a link to BH and I did not understand what they were pointing me to. Are you getting better pricing and if so can anyone take advantage of this? and how?

Wilt
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 12:27
I keep seeing PSAUG and the reference to better pricing. What is that? Someone once just gave me a link to BH and I did not understand what they were pointing me to. Are you getting better pricing and if so can anyone take advantage of this? and how?

Go here http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=208249&highlight=psaug

TMR Design
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 12:37
OK I read the thread and lots of references to it and I gather it is a discount but but how is it used? where? when do you enter this code? I can't find this info anywhere.

Jon
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 12:42
Go to B&H, search for PSAUG, and the products that will turn up have that discount pricing.

jev
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 12:43
Just put this code psaug into search box of B&H online store
It will show current promotions, specials, discounted items

bombay_shutterbug
17th of September 2006 (Sun), 01:20
Generally if you walk into the store in the U.S, you have to pay the state/local sales tax. Only if the goods are SHIPPED to an out of state address can the sale be made without the state and local tax levied.


Thanks Wilt, I will have B&H ship the lens to another state, to save on the Taxes. I wish US had a VAT or GST refund on leaving the country.

bombay_shutterbug
17th of September 2006 (Sun), 01:25
Yes this is correct generally you have to pay tax. B&H is a great store and I also buy things there sometimes, but at the same time it's a conveyer. The only way to advoid tax would be to buy lens from a smaller store where you can negotiate directly with owner or order from B&H to you friends address outside of New York

Jev, I have had a good experience buying from B&H, I would be a bit wary buying from a small store in case something went wrong and needed support.

BearSummer
17th of September 2006 (Sun), 04:00
Congrats Jev,

Welcome to the wonderful world of gLass, you will not be unhappy, poorer but not unhappy. That's a great pair of lenses and a fab price, well done.


HA! moderation is for people that cant handle EXCESS!!

Now thats a quote to live by, oh yeah, I do.

All the best

BearSummer

Wilt
17th of September 2006 (Sun), 09:38
Thanks Wilt, I will have B&H ship the lens to another state, to save on the Taxes. I wish US had a VAT or GST refund on leaving the country.

I notice Bombay is your location...for information of those outside of U.S., B&H will not ship to a hotel.

Since U.S. practices to not 'mark up' the prices on things like other countries, there is no VAT to 'give back' to visitors! The lowest prices for photographic goods in the world, and you're looking for VAT refund too! ;)

bombay_shutterbug
17th of September 2006 (Sun), 13:02
I notice Bombay is your location...for information of those outside of U.S., B&H will not ship to a hotel.

Since U.S. practices to not 'mark up' the prices on things like other countries, there is no VAT to 'give back' to visitors! The lowest prices for photographic goods in the world, and you're looking for VAT refund too! ;)

Wilt, I will be staying with family so there should be no problem. I agree US has one of the lowest prices, thats the reason i buy my stuff here.