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weka2000
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 22:52
So you own a 1D and its weather sealed, you own the weather sealed lens. What conditions have you taken your 1D out in. When would you not.

How weather sealed are they?

Dante King
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 23:09
Sandstorm is where I draw the line.

Dante King
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 23:10
Seriously, Weather sealed is far from waterproof. I had my camera out in the rain for a wedding on labor day weekend. Not worried. Rained fairly well. Camera and lenses survived just fine.

GeneMan88
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 23:27
Yeah... with my 24-70 f/2.8L, I pretty much go everywhere in any condition. Last time I was out along the coast of Oregon, I didn't worry all too much. Just made sure to never change a lens while on the beach, or anywhere near sand. It's usually breezy out here, so there are chances of getting sand into the camera and lenses. I do try to keep the camera dry, but if it starts to sprinkle just a bit, I'm not too worried. I don't know if I want to test the weather sealing in say a torrential downpour.

ssim
14th of September 2006 (Thu), 23:41
I got caught in a downpour in the Domincan Republic last year which lasted for almost half an hour. I just wiped down the body and the 70-200 and it was fine.

The key to remember is that they are weather sealed not proof. Common sense has to prevail. I would have never ventured out with my gear in the above rain storm if I had known it was coming.

I will go out in pretty much anything within reason. Like the others here I will not make a lens change in an environment where there is allot of dust flying about.

Doc Nickel
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 00:51
I believe I am the current authority on the quality of the 1D weathersealing. :D

In this thread (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=205591&highlight=Doc+Nickel+1D), I pointed out how I soaked my 1D and 28-300L, causing eventual problems, but little or no lasting damage.

But, like I said in that thread, I'm quite certain it was the trombone-action 28-300 that was the culprit; the considerable volume change as the slider is moved, causes significant pressure changes which pulls air (and whatever else) past the camera's seals.

The 1D seals are not dynamic, they're not meant to withstand pressure changes or forced air or water intrusion. They're passive only, doing fine against rain or water rolling across them, but not if there's something forcing the air or moisture at the seal.

http://docsmachine.smugmug.com/photos/89253539-M.jpg

After a thorough drying, everything works just fine again... except... The shutter button is now a little finicky, and there's water spots on the inside elements of my lens.

Both are going in for service- actually, I would have sent 'em in already, except I wanted to shoot some drag races over Labor Day weekend. Both worked just fine, giving me no issues whatsoever, other than it would on rare occasions take two shots instead of just one, despite being set on single shot. (Like I said, the shutter button is finicky.)

I haven't been able to see any traces of the waterspotting on any of the shots. (Still want it gone, though, of course.)

Now, as I said in that thread, if I had a lens with much less or no air displacement (such as the internally-zooming 70-200) I have little doubt both camera and lens would have come through that rainstorm unscathed.

Long story short, I'd say as long as you use a sealed L lens that doesn't have a notable volume change (meaning use primes or zooms that don't have an external barrel movement) and of course you don't open the CF card door, battery compartment or change lenses while still in those adverse conditons, I'd say you're pretty safe up to a pretty good rain and/or a pretty blustery sand/dust storm.

Doc.

calicokat
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 00:53
I will not take it out on a kayak. That is, until I buy the Lowepro Dryzone 200 :)

cdifoto
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 00:56
I don't have one but my limit would be a tsunami. Betcher butt I'd have it out to record the after-effects though.

Unless of course the gear was provided by a news agency...then I'd have no limits. I'd photograph from the eye of a tornado if it wouldn't kill me. :)

lostdoggy
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 01:17
When right index finger hurts to much to press the shutter!!!

blinking8s
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 01:26
the bar, i always avoid taking the 1d from checkout to the bar...

i fear no beer, but the camera probably wont like it...

lensview
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 05:23
Seriously, Weather sealed is far from waterproof. I had my camera out in the rain for a wedding on labor day weekend. Not worried. Rained fairly well. Camera and lenses survived just fine.

Oh brother :rolleyes: , you could not have had that much rain inside the chappel, reception hall or whatever;)
Perhaps you may wish to share a photo of the bride/groom you took in that downpour ?

BryanP
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 05:46
If you're talking about without any external protection (such as a rain cover), then I wouldn't take it out into the open rain, and I wouldn't take it out where theres a lot of sand floating around.

It's all common sense. If I do have to be in that situation then I'll take the appropriate action so the camera is most protected.

photomd
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 07:58
I'll go out in a sprinkle, but once it turns into rain, I look for shelter.

I did use my 100-400 lens to shoot motorcycle races in the rain. In that case I picked the zoom (about 300mm I think) and locked it while it was dry. I didn't move it until I wiped the barrel off. I didn't think about it pulling moisture in, but that makes sense. I didn't have any problems, but once the weather starts to turn nasty, I don't like the piccy's as much so I head for shelter.

I will also take it boating in a Pelican/Storm case, to the beach, etc, but I don't change lenses until I'm back in the car/house/shelter.

I simply wipe it down afterwards and clean the sensor reguarly and couldn't be happier: great camera for my needs.

Wazza
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 19:03
So what they're trying to tell you Tony, you can't half submerge the camera in the streams for your waterfall photography. :p

Save some money, I'm buying the 1 series first. :p

SoaringUSAEagle
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 19:11
I'm a chicken... I dont live on the edge I guess lol I never shoot in rain, whether it be sprinkling or whatever.

weka2000
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 21:12
So what they're trying to tell you Tony, you can't half submerge the camera in the streams for your waterfall photography. :p

Save some money, I'm buying the 1 series first. :p

But they are the best shots cause no one ever takes them ;) Humm waterproof housing or plastic bag for the 5D :lol:

Yep you buy it first then I can borrow it. You do know that 1D cameras have a built in device that wont let you use Sigma lens and they dont take EF-S lens either :)

Jon
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 21:19
So what they're trying to tell you Tony, you can't half submerge the camera in the streams for your waterfall photography. :p

Save some money, I'm buying the 1 series first. :p

But they are the best shots cause no one ever takes them ;) Humm waterproof housing or plastic bag for the 5D :lol:

Yep you buy it first then I can borrow it :)If you flightless wonders would just stop squabbling . . .

lensview
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 21:30
If you flightless wonders would just stop squabbling . . .

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You good.

weka2000
15th of September 2006 (Fri), 22:13
If you flightless wonders would just stop squabbling . . .

Imagine if we wernt flightless the rest of the world would be in trouble :lol:

gazcoyle
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 02:31
http://www.bissa.homecall.co.uk/wet1.jpg

Mark Kemp
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 03:45
So far it has proved too wet for me to be out in at about the same time as I get worried about the camera.

CorruptedPhotographer
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 05:58
Sandstorm is where I draw the line.

Haha thats one line I cannot draw, being from the middle east and all. My line is drawn at rock & smaller boulder storms.

Thats why I bought a 1-series dammit ;):p:D:):mad::lol::o:evil:

jiggling_john
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 06:26
Seems doc is the authority on daring 1d pursuits! I'm really surprised it survived what he put it through and is a testomony to the build quality of the 1 series.

Not being fortunate enough to own a 1 series, my only canon survival story is that i did manage to spill an entire pint of beer all over my old ixus 500, and i do mean, literally all over it, and it worked all night after that with no problems... Well impressed.

Or rather lucky :P

Tyreman
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 06:43
I only own a 5d but nowadays I'm older I won't take a chance and get it soaked
I did with some A series bemouths but not any more....to many potential hassles.
modern abundant microelectronics and water don't usually mix.

SuzyView
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 07:14
The EOS 3 is weathersealed and with the 24-70 I will go out in a sprinkle, but I can't imagine in the pouring rain. I shot a wedding with my 10D and EOS 3 under an umbrella and plastic covering. It was a mess! But I didn't get any damage.

Mark_Cohran
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 13:01
Rain and wind is fine, even dusty wind is fine. I've shot at the base of waterfalls and been covered in mist, absolutely no problem, same with snow. I think submersion would be the issue. But again, I don't hesitate to put the camera in a StormJacket if necessary.

Mark

dpastern
16th of September 2006 (Sat), 19:38
Haven't tested my 1D in snow, sandstorms or anything like that, but have had it out in light to medium rain without issue. I'm a bit cautious about it as I don't have any Canon sealed lenses to use, so the sealing isn't 100% and I'm using non Canon batteries with lack the sealing on them.

One question - how the hell does Canon seal the hotshoe from rain etc?

Dave