The issue of minimum courtesy

[lensview]

I have seen it on another photography forum. In my short residence on POTN (mostly lens forum) I am starting to see some signs of it as well here. Now, it does not surprise me nor cause me undue distress, however, I would not mind hearing someone else's view on it.

Typically, a question is asked about their new lens softness, or which lens to buy, etc., etc.....you must have seen as many of those as I have.
Now, some people respond in a brief off-the-cuff manner, others go to some length to extract info, links or dig out some sample photos in order to assist the thread originator.

Either way, what I find less than nice are those not so infrequent instances where the OP does not acknowledge the input nor thank the contributors, i.e., folks who are mostly trying to help.
Again, needless to say, there are many good examples that way, when people demonstrate courtesy and appreciation for help offered .

[Ronald S. Jr.]

I think some people don't appreciate the help of others here, and they just assume it's some type of "service" provided for them, and some will use it as a question and answer service, rather than as a community, as some (most, hopefully) of us do.

[SoaringUSAEagle]

I think some people don't appreciate the help of others here, and they just assume it's some type of "service"

I've thought the same thing. I always try to be courteous. I sometimes PM members if I know there are topics out and about, but just want that select member's opinion. I always make sure my thanks is noticed whether it is in a PM or out on the forum.

There's a lot of great members here and I enjoy this place a lot! :)

[JMAS]

I think some people don't appreciate the help of others here, and they just assume it's some type of "service" provided for them, and some will use it as a question and answer service, rather than as a community, as some (most, hopefully) of us do.

I noticed this sometimes, fortunately not too often. I continue to offer advice when it is requested but I have refrained to do so with new users. I think anyone entering a group should first prove their goodwill, even if disagreing with what is being advised before expecting too much effort from the group. If the OP replies that's enough for me. Then we may build up on that.

[Wilt]

Better to get no 'thanks' than to get the biting and vicious juvenile flaming responses seen on other forums! POTN is a haven compared to Google photo newsgroups, for example.

[ssim]

I certainly don't expect to get thanked for my input on a thread. I have received some pm's from people thanking me for my input. It is nice to hear but definitely not necessary.

I come on here to try and help and provide some insight on my views. Not to gain recognition. If someone wants to post a thank you I guess that is ok. What I don't want to see is the OP thanking each person individually. It makes the thread unduly long and then I think the OP is just trying to bump up their post count. I've seen it in the photo sharing area where you will get 5 "nice shot" comments and the OP will quote each one and thank them individually.

Then there are the responders that shouldn't get any thanks at all. Those are the ones that just tell the OP to do a search (which by the way you are not supposed to do.....have you read the forum rules). Personally, those really irritate me. Most of the OP's that do this are new to the forum and I've noticed over time that they do change their ways and will do the searching first. The search function here is ok but sometimes you just can't find the info you want even though you know it exists.

This is one of the more courteous and polite boards on the net. While one can always be more thoughtful of their fellow members here, I don't find it too bad now.

[Jon, The Elder]

I always thought minimum courtesy was not calling someone a 'flaming idiot' when you knew quite well that they were.

[lensview]

I think SSIM also makes a good point about excessive/thread balooning individual thank you posts. I suppose a sense of right measure has to prevail.
Generally, the photosharing forums are better that way...perhaps because people sort of reciprocate compliments there and crowds are smaller and more steady.

[lensview]

I think some people don't appreciate the help of others here, and they just assume it's some type of "service" provided for them, and some will use it as a question and answer service, rather than as a community, as some (most, hopefully) of us do.

Si Ronaldo, us folks of Italian ancestry have to stick together , as a community, so that the Mangiacakes can't take advantage of us.
:lol: :lol:

[ssim]

I always thought minimum courtesy was not calling someone a 'flaming idiot' when you knew quite well that they were.

Oh sure....you just want to take the fun out of it don't you.:lol::lol::lol:

[Ronald S. Jr.]

As they so often do! Luckily, we've got the cazzis to deal with these people. ;-)

[lensview]

As they so often do! Luckily, we've got the cazzis to deal with these people. ;-)
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[tlc]

I think the OP is just trying to bump up their post count. .


why

I think the OP is just trying to bump up their post count..

would

I think the OP is just trying to bump up their post count.

someone

I think the OP is just trying to bump up their post count.

try to

I think the OP is just trying to bump up their post count. .

bump their

I think the OP is just trying to bump up their post count. .

post count? :p

[Ronald S. Jr.]

why

would

someone

try to

bump their

post count? :p

LOL...I would have NEVER gotten away with that. :lol:

[lensview]

LOL...I would have NEVER gotten away with that. :lol:

Not to worry, paesan, at least you are posting photographs to substantiate and fortify your posts, right ? Quantity is nothing, quality is everything.:D
And am I to assume you'd never post expertly worded opinions (advice) on gear you do not have a good first-hand familiarity with ?;)
On photography forums, threads/posts w/o pictures are worthless.

(Certainly it is also OK to opine on various subjects based solely on info obtained thru forums and such....as long as one qualifies that sort of info source. )

[Ronald S. Jr.]

And am I to assume you'd never post expertly worded opinions (advice) on gear you do not have a good first-hand familiarity with ?;)

Only if the person who originally said it was undeniably knowledgable on the topic.

[SoaringUSAEagle]

Never ass.u.me. lensview ;)

[dewmuw]

Some people will always say thanks - others don't. That is life. I think there is also the case that some people ask for advice when they have already made their decision and so don't respond when the posts don't chime with their own thoughts.

[Wilt]

People who post 'thanks' to each and every comment probably are overtaxing the forum server unnecessarily. Those who send a summary 'thanks to all' are being nice, and properly courteous. Those who don't acknowledge are probably not raised with manners, or they have expectations of 'entitlement'. Those of us who extend the help simply shrug it off!

It bothers me more that I let another car into a break I have formed, they are not rushed, yet fail to wave or nod in acknowledgment...I did a favor, they didn't ask, and then they are rude to not acknowledge the favor! It seems a bullhorn is in order in those situations, to say, "Say thank you to the nice man" in tones appropriate to teaching children.

[dewmuw]

It bothers me more that I let another car into a break I have formed, they are not rushed, yet fail to wave or nod in acknowledgment...I did a favor, they didn't ask, and then they are rude to not acknowledge the favor! It seems a bullhorn is in order in those situations, to say, "Say thank you to the nice man" in tones appropriate to teaching children.

LOL I find myself saying "THANK YOU" to people I hold the door open for, who don't even acknowledge that I exist!

[lensview]

Some people will always say thanks - others don't. That is life. I think there is also the case that some people ask for advice when they have already made their decision and so don't respond when the posts don't chime with their own thoughts.

Like, I have ordered a Sigma 300 f/2.8 prime.
What is the best lens for shooting basketball ?
:lol: :lol:

[dewmuw]

Like, I have ordered a Sigma 300 f/2.8 prime.
What is the best lens for shooting basketball ?
:lol: :lol:

See you've been here long enough already! :D

[lensview]

LOL I find myself saying "THANK YOU" to people I hold the door open for, who don't even acknowledge that I exist!


I thought that was our American way......now you are telling us the UK is like that too ?:(

[lensview]

It bothers me more that I let another car into a break I have formed, they are not rushed, yet fail to wave or nod in acknowledgment...I did a favor, they didn't ask, and then they are rude to not acknowledge the favor! It seems a bullhorn is in order in those situations, to say, "Say thank you to the nice man" in tones appropriate to teaching children.

Wilt, aren't those the new ways of the 21st century ?

[dewmuw]

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I thought that was our American way......now you are telling us the UK is like that too ?:(

This is a sad/happy story. My kids once got a free ice cream because they were the only children to say 'please' to the ice cream seller that day!

Happy because they were my kids and I was proud. Sad because it was 4.30pm and there must have been a lot of customers by that time.

The not waving when you let someone pull out is one of my pet hates. As I get older I find myself shouting "thank you" when that happens. :evil:

[Wilt]

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I thought that was our American way......now you are telling us the UK is like that too ?:(

The Pilgrims were English Separatists who founded (1620) Plymouth Colony in New England. They brought their manners with them, it seems. :rolleyes:

[dewmuw]

The Pilgrims were English Separatists who founded (1620) Plymouth Colony in New England. They brought their manners with them, it seems. :rolleyes:

I bet they were cut up on the high seas too! :D

[Skip Souza]

LOL...I would have NEVER gotten away with that. :lol:

Neither did he :lol: :lol: :lol:

Don't worry tlc you'll hit five oh oh before you know it.

[neil_r]

The Pilgrims were English Separatists who founded (1620) Plymouth Colony in New England. They brought their manners with them, it seems. :rolleyes:

Did they say thank you to the Native Americans ?

[dewmuw]

Did they say thank you to the Native Americans ?

I'm sure they will sonner or later.

[Wilt]

This is a sad/happy story. My kids once got a free ice cream because they were the only children to say 'please' to the ice cream seller that day!

I just read the alumni magazine published by the high school that our daughters attended:
They have a men's and women's juniors crew (rowing) team, that went to U.S. Nationals, took Gold, and sent a men's team to Henley this past summer. Then they won Gold at Henley, too! During eliminations the team went to each team they competed with, and thanked them. It actually started a practice that had NOT been a tradition already at Henley. Vespoli, a shell manufacturer, voted this team 'Crew of the Year' over both Collegiate and juniors crews for their conduct. It seems there is a ray of hope in the world that courtesy has not vanished (yet).

(Our daughter was coxswain on this same juniors team several years ago. She now is coxing a Men's Varsity 4 collegiate crew who placed 8th in the nation and 13th in the nation, in the past two years.)

[condyk]

What :shock: :shock:

You mean Injuns ain't just in dem John Wayne Brokeback movies but they live there before the white man. I thought dem Amerikans invented Amerika. You guys are rewriting history me think :confused:

[Wilt]

Did they say thank you to the Native Americans ?

I don't recall, but a President in the past 20 years did finally acknowledge the wrong!

[Jon, The Elder]

Saw a great Tee Shirt at an art fair this week.

Text on top= "Homeland Security"

Large photo in the middle showing Four Native Americans in costume

Text accross bottom = "Fighting terrorism since 1492"

Kinda says it all.

[lensview]

Saw a great Tee Shirt at an art fair this week.

Text on top= "Homeland Security"

Large photo in the middle showing Four Native Americans in costume

Text accross bottom = "Fighting terrorism since 1492"

Kinda says it all.

That's simply brilliant !:lol:

[Anthony J Howe]

LOL I find myself saying "THANK YOU" to people I hold the door open for, who don't even acknowledge that I exist!
This is typical in my area too, I see this a lot Damian.

For those who dig into information and come up with good answers to the OP's question should have the courtesy to be thanked after all their advice they give freely. I know it doesn't happen much but that's life with people.

Whenever I asked a question, even when it's seems to be simple and daft that I asked the question, but posters have have freely advised me with the answer. And a big thank you to all who have helped.

[lensview]

This is typical in my area too, I see this a lot Damian.

For those who dig into information and come up with good answers to the OP's question should have the courtesy to be thanked after all their advice they give freely. I know it doesn't happen much but that's life with people.

Whenever I asked a question, even when it's seems to be simple and daft that I asked the question, but posters have have freely advised me with the answer. And a big thank you to all who have helped.

Thank you Anthony for your contribution, I feel you are the "creme de la creme" in more ways than one.;)