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Reefbone
30th of September 2006 (Sat), 16:13
I posted a while back about having a problem with my i9900 and using icc profiles. You can read the thread here (http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=221145). Rather than add to the existing thread, I wanted to post the solution so that others might find it easier later.

In a nutshell the issue is that prints were coming out too red when using a ilford icc profile and letting photoshop control the color.

I thought the problem with the printer was that I was trying to send the i9900 images that were in something other than the sRGB color space. The solution is really dumb but seems to work.

You have to remove the preview checkbox from the print driver when printing. Other wise I think it was adding the two profiles together.

Below is a screenshot of the Photoshop "Print with Preview" dialog box.
You can see that photoshop preview image looks "normal" or at least the color isn't crazy red.

http://static.flickr.com/117/256620164_49df5b496e_o.jpg

Once "Print" is clicked above, the below print dialog window appears. It is from the Canon print driver.

http://static.flickr.com/121/256620147_246e39bf19.jpg?v=0

Notice that in the above window "Preview before printing" is checked. I found out that this is NOT what you want. If selected, you get a second print preview and as you can see below, the color gets very red/magenta. Below is this second magenta preview and is close to what I actually got from the printer.

http://static.flickr.com/111/256621577_b81407352e.jpg?v=0


So the short and long of it is.... leave the check off the "Preview before printing" button found on the print driver window. (2nd screenshot)

When left off I got good results from the printer whether I sent the printer a ProRGB source doc or an SRGB source doc.

condyk
30th of September 2006 (Sat), 16:18
I'll try that. My iP6000D has a similar magenta bias to my eye. Thanks for taking the trouble to report your solution and do screenshots :-)

Reefbone
30th of September 2006 (Sat), 16:28
I'll try that. My iP6000D has a similar magenta bias to my eye. Thanks for taking the trouble to report your solution and do screenshots :-)


Have you been using that second preview? For sure try it without and get back to me.

MJP
30th of September 2006 (Sat), 22:42
thanks for the tip....i should try to compare between..

UncleDoug
2nd of October 2006 (Mon), 18:28
Reefbone,

Did you get things totally figured out?

Sorry if I seemed argumentative in my posts on the other thread but, either I was completely missing or misunderstanding a bit of your logic through all of this.:(

I am in agreement that both PDF's suggest that you feed the pinter RGB images.
My point was that the PDF did not specify the sRGB color space.
It just stated that one should feed the printer RGB images regardless of RGB flavor. (Flavor meaning ProPhotoRGB, AdobeRGB, ColorMatchRGB, sRGB, etc...)
So the ref. to sRGB in the original post threw me off.
But in theory, if color management is being exercised correctly with all devices calibrated and profiled what you see on screen should come "reasonably"( this is extremely subjective!!!) close what is in print.
With that stated, since you are seeing a red cast/shift in the print preview and in the printed piece, this raises a few questions to me.

1. When looking at the ProPhotoRGB image in Photoshop, without soft proofing on, how does the image look to you?
2. What rendering intend are you using ? Perceptual, Relative, Absolute or Saturation? If not sure question 3 below will solve this.
3. Could you show us a screen capture of the "profiles" tab of the "Canon i9900 Properties" window?

Trying to figure this one out so I can give you a non-color geek answer to all of this.:D