Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L USM - The Keg [Archive] - Page 6

TeeTee

11th of June 2008 (Wed), 15:07

^ Agreed. I often try to include the sun in a corner of the picture, but dang it's hard to induce flare with these L lenses some times. ;)

Seconded.

The only thing I can really fault this forum on is the emphasis of technical rather than creative. Then again I believe the majority of the members to be highly intellectual males and that may have something to do with it! ;)

NeinLives

11th of June 2008 (Wed), 15:23

I was scoping these shots last night on your blog. Dude, they are crazy beautiful. I'm going to buy this lens as soon as I can afford it. Until then, I go into my next wedding with the 50mm f/1.8 and 70-200mm f/2.8L IS--that is, unless Canon makes the 35mm f/1.4L available again; it's currently on backorder. Lame! I think that, in the future, I'll likely end up photographing weddings with primarily the 35mm f/1.4L and the 85mm f/1.2L II. I don't think I'd need anything else, really . . .

Again, awesome work!

Yeah, now that I have a Suby that I actually want to mod, it's hard finding $ amidst the camera gear :lol: Cobb TBE or 45 TS-E? I love the JDM fogs on your STI, btw. Wish there was some those size for the 06/07's.

85L pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/ippolito-0968lrz.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/ippolito-0086lrz.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/melissaross-eshoot-0018lrz.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/melissaross-eshoot-0005lrz.jpg

ekie

11th of June 2008 (Wed), 15:48

WOW, that is a great shot of the two little girls! Put a big smile on my face.

great to hear and thanks! thats one of my fav from the trip :D

Madweasel

11th of June 2008 (Wed), 16:41

I like the flare, in that picture, and in many pictures. Technical perfection is boring.

^ Agreed. I often try to include the sun in a corner of the picture, but dang it's hard to induce flare with these L lenses some times. ;)

Seconded.

The only thing I can really fault this forum on is the emphasis of technical rather than creative. Then again I believe the majority of the members to be highly intellectual males and that may have something to do with it! ;)
That's fair enough, I've even used the odd soft-focus filter in my time, but there are much cheaper ways of getting that effect than by using the 85mm f/1.2!

I'm certainly not looking for technical perfection, but I don't like what are effectively lens errors intruding on what I see when I want to photograph a scene. That's me, but we're all different and I for one am thankful for that.

TeeTee

11th of June 2008 (Wed), 19:43

Ah Mark, sorry if we all jumped on you. My statements were made more in jest than anything I hope you took it that way.

I think we can all agree that flare is jsut another element of the composition that either should or shouldn't be in a shot and not left to 'luck'. Failing which there's always Photoshop! ;)

Double Negative

11th of June 2008 (Wed), 20:48

Both excellent points. Flare IS technically a lens "flaw" but there's no reason it can't be used creatively. There are also ways around it most of the time; recompose the shot, block the light with your "free hand" just out of view, crop it out, etc. With the excellent lenses we have available, it really can be hard to induce flare when you want it. But if you can't help it, go with the flow and use it... :)

TheGreatDivorce

11th of June 2008 (Wed), 20:58

I was scoping these shots last night on your blog. Dude, they are crazy beautiful. I'm going to buy this lens as soon as I can afford it. Until then, I go into my next wedding with the 50mm f/1.8 and 70-200mm f/2.8L IS--that is, unless Canon makes the 35mm f/1.4L available again; it's currently on backorder. Lame! I think that, in the future, I'll likely end up photographing weddings with primarily the 35mm f/1.4L and the 85mm f/1.2L II. I don't think I'd need anything else, really . . .

Again, awesome work!

Thanks man! It's well worth it. And you really could shoot a wedding with just the 35L and 85L. I do bust out the 70-200 for ceremonies, but that's about it. You'll love it when you get it!

Mark, sorry too if it seemed like I was getting uppity with you :) It totally depends what you're going for. If you don't want flare, it's annoying, but if it's totally intentional in a shot, then it's good. But sometimes I wish I had cheaper lenses so I could get more flare ... the L's resist it too well, haha.

terriyaki

11th of June 2008 (Wed), 22:11

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/melissaross-eshoot-0018lrz.jpg

This shot (as well as the other three) is gorgeous! Did you enhance the look of the bokeh by using some sort of textured layer or something here? It just looks so surreal.

roentarre

12th of June 2008 (Thu), 01:53

Wow, that is so stunning!

TheGreatDivorce

12th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:17

Yeah, there's a texture over the whole picture, at a low opacity, soft light blending mode, and it was erased so there's no texture over their faces. :) thanks!

SoaringUSAEagle

12th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:50

Lookin good. I need to put my glass to use :D It's feeling lonely lmao. I'll be in Mexico all next week. I'll be sharing stuff when I get back :D

Luminodio

13th of June 2008 (Fri), 02:37

I actually like the flare as I believe it adds a window like view to the photograph.
alright. i was just clarifying.
I have noticed that the 85L does exhibit more lens flare than my other L primes, though I like to think that it adds to its personality :)
i was under the impression the 85mm 1.2L had excellent flare control, even without it's hood. maybe i was wrong.

i'll have to buy one and find out. :)

futura

13th of June 2008 (Fri), 15:24

Yeah, there's a texture over the whole picture, at a low opacity, soft light blending mode, and it was erased so there's no texture over their faces. :) thanks!

Without wanting pester a magician on how its done..... how is it done (just the texturing part I don't get) :p

S-S

14th of June 2008 (Sat), 05:45

you get a separate texture image (for example, a concrete wall with mould on it) and add it to the photo as an overlay blend mode layer, or use soft light, then reduce the opacity until it looks right, then mask out areas you want clear

TeamSpeed

14th of June 2008 (Sat), 08:05

Taken this morning, just havin' fun with this lens! These are full-sized, not crops, interesting combo with one tube, one TC, and the 85L.

ekie

16th of June 2008 (Mon), 00:14

@ f1.8 .. me n the gf out shooting. shes also a photographer :D
http://www.ekinphotography.com/gallery/d/20356-2/_MG_4163-Edit.jpg

@ f1.8
http://www.ekinphotography.com/gallery/d/20354-2/_MG_4148-Edit_001.jpg

also @ f1.8
http://www.ekinphotography.com/gallery/d/20350-2/_MG_4134-Edit.jpg

davo_robbo

16th of June 2008 (Mon), 07:33

awesome shots^^^
nice to see your copy getting a great workout :]
im SO keen to get one :)

ekie

16th of June 2008 (Mon), 08:31

awesome shots^^^
nice to see your copy getting a great workout :]
im SO keen to get one :)

thanks! i love walking around with just the 85L :D

Borderfox

16th of June 2008 (Mon), 14:56

Taken at the Street Performer Championships in Dublin, Ireland @f2
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3131/2583069850_089b978fc0_b.jpg

Shot @f1.2
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3280/2582931422_41df6ec504_b.jpg

philthejuggler

16th of June 2008 (Mon), 15:06

^^ I really like the first one of those!

dadCameraGuy

16th of June 2008 (Mon), 15:24

well - after renting the 85 and the 135 f2.0 L for a week, i can tell you that i love both lenses. I got some great portraits and some great recital images with the 85, but since i don't have permission to post them you'll have to settle for 2 cats :)

ETA: 5d / f1.6 / ISO 800 (both)

http://homepage.mac.com/maunger/images/5d/IMG_5150.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/maunger/images/5d/IMG_5211.jpg

hope to someday join the ownership crowd - thanks all for sharing the joy here

Borderfox

16th of June 2008 (Mon), 16:24

Just to balance up that lovely Cat shot dadCameraguy
Shot @ f3.2
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2129/2553572842_e178119eda_b.jpg

adrianzg

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 06:54

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/2586962536_e285a002d9_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/2586965212_21b86a1142_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3080/2586963262_5c206c5ae4_b.jpg

davo_robbo

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 08:57

:O ^^ wow at #2!!
this thread is where i waste all my saliva *wipes mouth*

jdlloyd67

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 09:01

Nukey

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 09:24

Gah! You guys suck! lol. Everytime I come on this forum I get a horrible urge to spend exorbitant amounts of money. Does this madness not end? Aww who am I kidding, I know it doesn't.

Double Negative

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 09:51

^ It really doesn't stop. But it takes progressively more expensive splurges to shock you out of it for longer periods. :p

dadCameraGuy

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 09:56

^ It really doesn't stop. But it takes progressively more expensive splurges to shock you out of it for longer periods. :p

Yea, i thought buying the 5d was shock enough, but then i rented that 85 1.2L and i was doomed!

Ebaying everything in the basement ;)

(i think i made up a new verb? naw, i'm sure someone else got to it before me)

adrianzg

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 10:09

^ It really doesn't stop. But it takes progressively more expensive splurges to shock you out of it for longer periods. :p

agreed! i was using 30d w 17-85 last yr this time! moved to L zooms, then 5d, then 1d3, then primes and now am back to 5d but with superfast L primes..

90c4

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 10:16

agreed! i was using 30d w 17-85 last yr this time! moved to L zooms, then 5d, then 1d3, then primes and now am back to 5d but with superfast L primes..

Pretty much same here - I was using a Xti with a 17-85 this time last year. Then added a 70-300DO, then a 50mm 1.4, then a 85L, then a 24-105, then ditched the 17-85, then a 50L, then ditched the 50L, then added a 35L, then a 5D, then a 15mm 2.8, then ditched the 15mm...

Luminodio

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 10:24

Pretty much same here - I was using a Xti with a 17-85 this time last year. Then added a 70-300DO, then a 50mm 1.4, then a 85L, then a 24-105, then ditched the 17-85, then a 50L, then ditched the 50L, then added a 35L, then a 5D, then a 15mm 2.8, then ditched the 15mm...

if you think that's bad...::sighs::

i'm not even going to bother straying this thread off-topic.

i decided that i will be ordering this lens in the direct future (this week hopefully). seeing as portraiture and wedding work is in my future, i see no alternative that promises the consistency and precision this gem will.

i only wish it was weather-sealed. i have not tried the "fly by wire" MF ring (hopefully it's light years beyond the "fly by wire" MF ring on my Powershot Pro1), but if that's a drag, then the damped mechanical MF ring will be something else i'll miss.

i've been subscribed to this thread since i've been a member of this forum. it's about time i contributed to it.

Double Negative

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 10:28

Here's some 85 lovin' for y'all. Click for larger/info:
http://litpixel.com/ee/images/thumb/345__1D_3076.jpg (http://litpixel.com/ee/photo.php?photo=1583&exhibition=9&ee_lang=eng&u=1241,1) http://litpixel.com/ee/images/thumb/df4__1D_3070.jpg (http://litpixel.com/ee/photo.php?photo=1584&exhibition=9&ee_lang=eng&u=1241,2) http://litpixel.com/ee/images/thumb/_1D_3035.jpg (http://litpixel.com/ee/photo.php?photo=1578&exhibition=9&ee_lang=eng&u=1241,4) http://litpixel.com/ee/images/thumb/9f7__1D_0777.jpg (http://litpixel.com/ee/photo.php?photo=1403&exhibition=9&ee_lang=eng&u=1241,14)

Luminodio

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 11:26

http://litpixel.com/ee/images/thumb/345__1D_3076.jpg (http://litpixel.com/ee/photo.php?photo=1583&exhibition=9&ee_lang=eng&u=1241,1) http://litpixel.com/ee/images/thumb/df4__1D_3070.jpg (http://litpixel.com/ee/photo.php?photo=1584&exhibition=9&ee_lang=eng&u=1241,2) http://litpixel.com/ee/images/thumb/_1D_3035.jpg (http://litpixel.com/ee/photo.php?photo=1578&exhibition=9&ee_lang=eng&u=1241,4) http://litpixel.com/ee/images/thumb/9f7__1D_0777.jpg (http://litpixel.com/ee/photo.php?photo=1403&exhibition=9&ee_lang=eng&u=1241,14)

sweet mother of pearl. how big is the EOS-1 V in retrospect to the EOS-1D Mark III? also, how do you like the FL on a 1.3x crop for conventional portraiture, headshots and the like?

Double Negative

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 11:31

sweet mother of pearl. how big is the EOS-1 V in retrospect to the EOS-1D Mark III? also, how do you like the FL on a 1.3x crop for conventional portraiture, headshots and the like?

The 1v is actually almost identical to the 1d. The shape of the lower grip area and body is slightly different but overall size is the same. This practically identical layout is why I like the combo so much; there's no "adjustment" going from body-to-body.

As for the 85mm focal length on a 1.3x it's a touch long for me in my studio, which is why I picked up the 50L to compliment it when I need a little more in the frame (head vs. head/shoulders). Outdoors though where you have a little more room it's a real peach! I find the 24-70mm great for the studio but prefer primes when I can.

Luminodio

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 11:41

yeah, the third line of your signature beckons me in my sleep (with some assist by the 300mm 2.8L IS that resides at the bottom). :)

i will be adding to this archive very soon. that is for certain.

Double Negative

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 11:45

yeah, the third line of your signature beckons me in my sleep (with some assist by the 300mm 2.8L IS that resides at the bottom). :)

i will be adding to this archive very soon. that is for certain.

Hehehe. Go for it! :twisted: :p

If you want to save a little money, you can pick up the Mark I for very reasonable prices. IMO, you're not missing *that* much by not getting the Mark II. The differences between the two are very subtle. AF isn't a speed demon on either lens, though yes, the Mark II is a bit faster. The Mark II has rounded aperture blades, which helps the bokeh especially on OOF highlights, but wide open you won't notice the difference anyway (not until you start stopping down, the highlights stay rounder, longer).

Luminodio

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 11:54

Hehehe. Go for it! :twisted: :p

If you want to save a little money, you can pick up the Mark I for very reasonable prices. IMO, you're not missing *that* much by not getting the Mark II. The differences between the two are very subtle. AF isn't a speed demon on either lens, though yes, the Mark II is a bit faster. The Mark II has rounded aperture blades, which helps the bokeh especially on OOF highlights, but wide open you won't notice the difference anyway (not until you start stopping down, the highlights stay rounder, longer).

hahahaha, thanks for the encouragement! oh, and the froogle advice goes appreciated as well. i will say though, i am still gonna spend the extra five-hundred or so and get the Mark II. the longer those specular highlights stay round for me, the better. :D

GBRandy

17th of June 2008 (Tue), 12:52

NZDoug

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 03:52

I won a mk1 today on auction and I meet and greet tomorrow for a new relationship.
Sloppy seconds, but, If you try sometimes, you get what you need :mrgreen:He who dares, wins, hopefully....
Tomorrows another day, and Im looking forward to it.
HEY! HO!
:)
What year did the Mk2 version first appear?
Havent paid for it yet....:cool:

Double Negative

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 07:14

Excellent...lens porn. You gotta love it. :p

Nothing but the best! :p

ben_r_

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 10:00

^ It really doesn't stop. But it takes progressively more expensive splurges to shock you out of it for longer periods. :p
My friend, you hit the nail on the head! That is EXACTLY the way it works!

zariio

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 15:21

http://photo-zona.net/images/user47227/album12335/large/1213553089_unej6054_IMG_0181a.jpg

http://photo-zona.net/images/user47227/album12335/large/1213553087_cbon8443_IMG_0189a.jpg

cherrymoon

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 16:34

Double Negative

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 16:42

This lens really made me madly in love

I consider this one but i hesitate on a 40D. Is the sensor big enough ?

The focal length is long... Maybe i'll take the 50L (cheaper !)

But 50L is not as sexy as 85L

And wich one is the fastest ?

a) Sensor is fine, b) 50mm might be better on 40D, c) they're both sexy, d) 50mm focuses faster, both are just as fast aperture wise, though you'll need a higher shutter speed with the 85mm.

:D

Harleypugs

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 16:46

So...Double...the hype about the 50 is not true or did you shop around to get a good 50? Did you have to send it in to make it good?

Thanks...Jon

Double Negative

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 16:54

So...Double...the hype about the 50 is not true or did you shop around to get a good 50? Did you have to send it in to make it good?

I'm not going to argue that there's no "focus shift" or that some lenses are badly calibrated from the factory... There's no floating element in the 50L so of course there will be some focus shift under a tiny range of conditions - but IMO it's blown way out of proportion and I know it doesn't effect my shots any. As for the latter, worse comes to worse send it to Canon for a free calibration under warranty.

That all having been said, I love the 50L - and rate it almost as highly as the 85L - the bokeh is extraordinary, on par with the 85L. The colors, sharpness, saturation and contrast are all top-notch. Bonus is typical MF action, not "fly-by-wire" and weathersealing. What other prime gives you f/1.2 that's weathersealed? None...

Full disclosure; I bought mine second-hand and the previous owner had it calibrated by Canon. I have no idea how it performed before other than slight front/backfocus. All I know is I pushed it to expose the focus shift; it works FINE. In fact I shot specifically testing the 50L at every range and aperture in REAL WORLD conditions and it performed beyond expectations. I love mine, no reservations.

cherrymoon

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 17:12

But IMO, 50L is not that sexy :

Here's some 85 lovin' for y'all. Click for larger/info:
http://litpixel.com/ee/images/thumb/345__1D_3076.jpg (http://litpixel.com/ee/photo.php?photo=1583&exhibition=9&ee_lang=eng&u=1241,1) http://litpixel.com/ee/images/thumb/df4__1D_3070.jpg (http://litpixel.com/ee/photo.php?photo=1584&exhibition=9&ee_lang=eng&u=1241,2) http://litpixel.com/ee/images/thumb/_1D_3035.jpg (http://litpixel.com/ee/photo.php?photo=1578&exhibition=9&ee_lang=eng&u=1241,4) http://litpixel.com/ee/images/thumb/9f7__1D_0777.jpg (http://litpixel.com/ee/photo.php?photo=1403&exhibition=9&ee_lang=eng&u=1241,14)

What i'm looking for is great bokeh and fast USM. I think the 85L is better than 50L on that point. But FredMiranda users said that 85L is a bit slow. Do they expect it to be the fastest lens on earth ??

Of course, great bokeh is good for portrait but what i really like to do is that 3D effect created by the 85L that allow you to capture a total subject on a total blured background. I just think that 50L is not able to do this as well.

Double Negative

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 17:25

What i'm looking for is great bokeh and fast USM. I think the 85L is better than 50L on that point. But FredMiranda users said that 85L is a bit slow. Do they expect it to be the fastest lens on earth ??

Of course, great bokeh is good for portrait but what i really like to do is that 3D effect created by the 85L that allow you to capture a total subject on a total blured background. I just think that 50L is not able to do this as well.

Bah. Both lenses are f/1.2 and have nine rounded aperture blades. So the big difference is the focal length and by that alone the 85mm "technically" has less DoF (more background blur) than the 50mm, but that can be compensated for by increasing subject to background distance or camera to subject distance with the 50mm. Even sensor size can be utilized to a degree to achieve the effect you want (though it's really just juggling variables). So there's nothing magical about the 85mm here. The 50L can do this just as well and the bokeh is extremely nice.

As for AF speed, the 50L is faster than the 85L. Neither are the fastest in the stable. In fact the 85mm f/1.8 is faster than the 85 f/1.2L and it's not an L!

So I have to disagree on both counts. Sorry. :p

As for that "pop" you can do that quite easily with either lens... Set aperture to about f/1.8, get your subject at 10' and snap away. Even the 85mm f/1.8 can do this, albeit wide open - and thus not as sharply.

Luminodio

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 17:30

http://litpixel.com/ee/images/thumb/345__1D_3076.jpg (http://litpixel.com/ee/photo.php?photo=1583&exhibition=9&ee_lang=eng&u=1241,1)

::sighs::

i believe...in a thing called, "love".

(just wish it had a friendlier MFD and was weather-sealed.)

BenJammin

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 18:37

[QUOTE=adrianzg;5736491]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/2586962536_e285a002d9_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/2586965212_21b86a1142_b.jpg

Awesome PP on these care to share :lol:

ekie

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 18:52

too much talking and not enough pics so here are a few lol :lol:

@ f1.6
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3165/2591382090_a208249bf4_o.jpg

@ f1.6 .. got lucky on this one, i was on back of a motorbike .. set it to all focus points and just stuck out my camera and snap
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3207/2591381950_84b0b61009_o.jpg

@ f1.2
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/2591381146_0078d7b5e0_o.jpg

@ f1.2
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/2591381058_3c889355f8_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3177/2585292821_a343042663_o.jpg

Philco

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 20:04

Still my favorite lens. Here's a few from a June 9 wedding in Portland, Or.

http://www.defalcophoto.com/blogimages/yatesblog/yates005.jpg

http://www.defalcophoto.com/blogimages/yatesblog/yates007.jpg

http://www.defalcophoto.com/blogimages/yatesblog/389.jpg

http://www.defalcophoto.com/blogimages/yatesblog/yates010.jpg

And f1.2, down by the river...

http://www.defalcophoto.com/blogimages/yatesblog/yates013.jpg

Cheers.

SeattleSpeedster

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 20:31

great shots phil :)

Theres a conservatory up in Seattle with nice flora inside. Here's some examples:

http://home.comcast.net/~michaelfreid/leaves.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~michaelfreid/stalks.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~michaelfreid/spines2.jpg

alley1

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 21:59

Lens came today! 2 shot with 5d at 1.2
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3245/2591883448_e17e2bfdcd.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/2590898689_0637c6d469.jpg

ekie

18th of June 2008 (Wed), 23:39

^^^ dog shot is awesome! cute dog =)

not best example but its just a funny picture ... dad singing while grandpa chilling in the back with his fan. grandpa is hard of hearing so he doesnt hear any of the singing .. :D

@ f1.2 .. iso1600
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3118/2592029456_223c597e36_o.jpg

adrianzg

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 03:02

Awesome PP on these care to share :lol:

-resize 6x4 300dpi
-new curves layer, increase contrast of green and red channels(slight S curve), increase blue in the shadows and decrease blue in the highlights.
-adjust levels, contrast and exposure according to the image
-new layer-saturation, decrease saturation according to taste
-new layer-exposure, decrease exposure and mask the subject using black colour to create vignette
-adjust colours, hue, wb, burn highlights, etc according to the mood of the photo.
-sharpen to taste. :)

the bokeh and some of the lovely vignette comes free w the lens. ;)

Nukey

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 09:11

Still my favorite lens. Here's a few from a June 9 wedding in Portland, Or.

http://www.defalcophoto.com/blogimages/yatesblog/yates005.jpg

Cheers.

I love this shot. Was the background naturally dark at the shutter you exposed the bride and groom at or was it done in PP?

Great work!

Harleypugs

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 09:43

Double - If you get some time. Can you start a new post showing the same subject shot at the same distance with both the 50 L and the 85 L? Thanks.

Jon

Double Negative

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 09:53

Double - If you get some time. Can you start a new post showing the same subject shot at the same distance with both the 50 L and the 85 L?

Interesting, sure - I'm game.

You want the same framing, or the same distance? That is - do you want to compare FoV, or bokeh?

BenJammin

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 10:20

-resize 6x4 300dpi
-new curves layer, increase contrast of green and red channels(slight S curve), increase blue in the shadows and decrease blue in the highlights.
-adjust levels, contrast and exposure according to the image
-new layer-saturation, decrease saturation according to taste
-new layer-exposure, decrease exposure and mask the subject using black colour to create vignette
-adjust colours, hue, wb, burn highlights, etc according to the mood of the photo.
-sharpen to taste. :)

the bokeh and some of the lovely vignette comes free w the lens. ;)

thank you adrian!

Harleypugs

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 10:53

Interesting, sure - I'm game.

You want the same framing, or the same distance? That is - do you want to compare FoV, or bokeh?

Would like to see both I think...I am not real sure...I am thinking the 50 is cheaper than the 85 and may be a way to go for now...so just wanted to see how they compare.

In2Photos

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 11:03

Would like to see both I think...I am not real sure...I am thinking the 50 is cheaper than the 85 and may be a way to go for now...so just wanted to see how they compare.
I think the 85 would fit better in your lens lineup. The 50 is too close to the 35, IMO.

Harleypugs

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 11:08

I think the 85 would fit better in your lens lineup. The 50 is too close to the 35, IMO.

You are probably right. I am so wanting to play with a 1.2 lens and may be thinking too much about the $$$$...;)

SeattleSpeedster

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 11:54

rent em and see which one grabs you

Double Negative

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 12:15

Or just set your 24-70 to 50mm and your 70-200mm to 85mm - and compare.

suyenfung

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:17

from my wedding last weekend

http://67.228.11.142/images/uploads/kjhmiel_ef_029.jpg

Harleypugs

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:29

Or just set your 24-70 to 50mm and your 70-200mm to 85mm - and compare.

Will not show me the boken you were talking about...

Double Negative

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:30

Will not show me the boken you were talking about...

That's true - it would compare FoV only.

Harleypugs

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 13:30

from my wedding last weekend

http://67.228.11.142/images/uploads/kjhmiel_ef_029.jpg

Very nice.

shaktipalooza

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:02

Beautiful image

from my wedding last weekend

http://67.228.11.142/images/uploads/kjhmiel_ef_029.jpg

TheGreatDivorce

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:28

went out to watch the moonrise last night, but it sucked, so i just snapped some handheld night shots. all at f/1.2, between 1/5th and 1/80th of a second.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/seattlemoonrise-0009lrz.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/seattlemoonrise-0011lrz.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/seattlemoonrise-0012lrz.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/seattlemoonrise-0006lrz.jpg

jdlloyd67

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:35

Here are two wide open I think with an 85L MKII
The second shot could easily be an add for hardwood floors! Great shot!!! :)

Harleypugs

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 14:47

Borderfox

19th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:38

One from a Wedding at the weekend
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y213/Borderfox/BARB0749.jpg

S-S

20th of June 2008 (Fri), 06:41

one day im gonna say 'lens came today!' and post it in this thread...
one day...

well actually no, i'll go and fetch it, cos i'm far too impatient to wait for a courier lol

SeattleSpeedster

20th of June 2008 (Fri), 16:59

ventured over to my mom's garden in north seattle...she has several nice maple trees and numerous delphinium

at 1.2

http://www.vispoint.com/album/Maples/slides/redmaple.jpg

at 4

http://www.vispoint.com/album/Maples/slides/redmaple2.jpg

http://www.vispoint.com/album/Flowers%20and%20Foliage/slides/delphinium.jpg

Luminodio

20th of June 2008 (Fri), 23:39

one day im gonna say 'lens came today!' and post it in this thread...
one day...

well actually no, i'll go and fetch it, cos i'm far too impatient to wait for a courier lol

ditto.

that's it, i'm not gonna post in this again until this lens is in my possession.

...

see you in a week or so, fellas.

orisky

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 01:31

http://www.vispoint.com/album/Flowers%20and%20Foliage/slides/delphinium.jpg

This is a really cool pic, nice color and bokeh

orisky

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 01:31

I'm really starting to like this lens...

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/316869375_U8xd8-X2.jpg

djeuch

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 11:31

I'm really starting to like this lens...

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/316869375_U8xd8-X2.jpg

Wow.. No EXIF though!!! What settings? :)

orisky

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 11:50

Thanks. Not sure why smugmug strips out the exif, even though you can view it on the site. I did some cropping and other adjustments in lightroom, but no photoshopping.

Make - Canon
Model - Canon EOS 5D
XResolution - 300
YResolution - 300
ResolutionUnit - Inch
DateTime - 2008:06:21 09:09:48
ExifOffset - 154
ExposureTime - 1/8000 seconds
FNumber - 1.20
ExposureProgram - Aperture priority
ISOSpeedRatings - 100
ExifVersion - 0221
DateTimeOriginal - 2008:06:16 09:29:14
DateTimeDigitized - 2008:06:16 09:29:14
ShutterSpeedValue - 1/8000 seconds
ApertureValue - F 1.20
ExposureBiasValue - -0.33
MaxApertureValue - F 1.24
MeteringMode - Spot
Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode
FocalLength - 85 mm
FocalPlaneXResolution - 3086.93
FocalPlaneYResolution - 3091.30
FocalPlaneResolutionUnit - Inch
CustomRendered - Normal process
ExposureMode - Auto
WhiteBalance - Auto
SceneCaptureType - Standard

djeuch

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 13:55

Thanks. Not sure why smugmug strips out the exif, even though you can view it on the site. I did some cropping and other adjustments in lightroom, but no photoshopping.

Model - Canon EOS 5D
ExposureTime - 1/8000 seconds
FNumber - 1.20
ExposureProgram - Aperture priority
ISOSpeedRatings - 100
ExposureBiasValue - -0.33

I figured you had to be near (or at) 1/8000" I've blown out f/2.8 before in similar conditions.

I've got the 85mm f/1.8, but captures like this make me wish it was the L instead!

alley1

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 15:25

Here's another pic i took recently of my daughter. i'm having fun with the 85L

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3284/2596761150_cb899a27ba_o.jpg

SeattleSpeedster

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 21:39

^^awesome super sharp capture :)

These are from my wanderings in the neighborhood

http://www.vispoint.com/album/Leaf%20Collages/slides/leaves7.jpg

http://www.vispoint.com/album/Leaf%20Collages/slides/leaves5.jpg

http://www.vispoint.com/album/Flowers%20and%20Foliage/slides/lavender6.jpg

Mac10

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 21:45

Very nice Speedster.
The first 2 have great detail...nice dof.

elader

21st of June 2008 (Sat), 21:55

sunset wide open on the 5D
http://elader.smugmug.com/photos/317276414_2ipbR-XL.jpg
http://elader.smugmug.com/photos/317275775_JoDQ4-XL.jpg

philthejuggler

22nd of June 2008 (Sun), 16:33

A couple from today with my new 85L!!!

5D, F1.4, ISO:50, 1/2500s
282257

5D, F1.4, ISO:100, 1/6400s
282261

NZDoug

22nd of June 2008 (Sun), 20:45

Me too!
I picked up a used Mk.1 Saturday.
Heres a wide open at 1/400on tripod, available light on a rainy day.:D
This image is at 25% .
So its got some very sharp areas.
I think it will be my dreamweaver....
48.5kb.

dadCameraGuy

22nd of June 2008 (Sun), 22:26

A couple from today with my new 85L!!!

<jealousy>
congratulations
</jealousy.

adrianzg

23rd of June 2008 (Mon), 06:26

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/2603807118_b826d745af_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/2603805130_1946152f44_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/2602972917_1e2a62a78b_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/2602968253_407a969e83_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/2602966161_85021a8290_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3059/2602966927_7482cd4253_b.jpg

this lens sucks so much light, has such nice colours, beautiful contrast and incredible sharpness it's perfect! all wide open.

In2Photos

23rd of June 2008 (Mon), 08:17

Thanks. Not sure why smugmug strips out the exif, even though you can view it on the site. I did some cropping and other adjustments in lightroom, but no photoshopping.

SmugMug strips EXIF from resized versions to keep file sizes down. So only your original image contains the EXIF.

WillK

23rd of June 2008 (Mon), 13:06

Just placed an order for one of these babies from B&H...the wait begins...

sacral

23rd of June 2008 (Mon), 14:41

<jealousy>
congratulations
</jealousy>

Funniest. Post. Ever.

And the 85L looks outstanding...

dadCameraGuy

23rd of June 2008 (Mon), 16:26

Funniest. Post. Ever.

<blushing>

gee thanks

</blushing>

unless you're <teasing> of course

LOL!

SeattleSpeedster

23rd of June 2008 (Mon), 18:29

more leaves from the backyard

http://www.vispoint.com/album/Leaf%20Collages/slides/solored.jpg

http://www.vispoint.com/album/Leaf%20Collages/slides/branches.jpg

http://www.vispoint.com/album/Leaf%20Collages/slides/skymaple8.jpg

TheGreatDivorce

23rd of June 2008 (Mon), 21:07

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/ixoye/IMG_8605lrz.jpg

f/1.2

Tobiah

24th of June 2008 (Tue), 16:26

I just bought one from a fellow POTN'R I know its a sharp copy too!

Cant WAIT! I have a wedding this weekend (my first) and I wont rely on it as i want to be comfortable using my gear and not mess up anyshots. But i gaurantee i WILL be using it this weekend!

I have the 135L but think i might sell it with the 85L... I dont see much advangtage for what i shoot.. weddings, engagements and portraits...

with my 40D i can get the 135 focal length and with the 5d use it at 85...

sootyvrs

24th of June 2008 (Tue), 17:21

Tobiah, you'll love it!

Better stop looking in this thread, just in case I have regrets.....

Tobiah

24th of June 2008 (Tue), 17:34

:) CANT WAIT!

90c4

24th of June 2008 (Tue), 22:40

Most of the photos shown here deal with bokeh and show how nice and fuzzy this lens can be, but I'll post one that shows how sharp it is. I shot the Levon Helm Band in Boston this weekend and here's a shot at f2.8. No post processing, other than standard RAW conversion with DPP.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q68/gastwirt/20080621_1757.jpg

and a 100% crop:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q68/gastwirt/20080621_1757-1.jpg

davo_robbo

24th of June 2008 (Tue), 23:28

thats quite incredible..^^
L primes are so yum!

shaktipalooza

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 01:50

Here's a few
http://largelifephotography.smugmug.com/photos/319561225_DTVzL-XL.jpg
http://largelifephotography.smugmug.com/photos/319561508_TMM4b-X2.jpg
http://largelifephotography.smugmug.com/photos/319561792_7ZZ4n-XL.jpg

silvex

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 02:53

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/2602972917_1e2a62a78b_b.jpg

this lens sucks so much light, has such nice colours, beautiful contrast and incredible sharpness it's perfect! all wide open.

Great work!!!

Tobiah

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 05:01

has anyone rn into difficulties with max aperture to much for the max shutter speed?
in daylight or sunlight would iso 50 be slow enough for f1.2 shots?

if not would a polarizer bring it down enough or will i need an nd filter ( i do have an nd8 77mm and a stepdown ring)

I would tes myself but its in transit! :)

timnosenzo

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 05:29

has anyone rn into difficulties with max aperture to much for the max shutter speed?
in daylight or sunlight would iso 50 be slow enough for f1.2 shots?

Yeah, you could run into trouble trying to shoot at f/1.2 in bright sunlight. I bought a 3 stop ND filter for such occasions. :) Polarizer could help too, most soak up about 1.5 stops of light.

alley1

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 05:43

one more
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3280/2608700103_e74d53bf14.jpg

orisky

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 06:11

Yeah, you could run into trouble trying to shoot at f/1.2 in bright sunlight. I bought a 3 stop ND filter for such occasions. :) Polarizer could help too, most soak up about 1.5 stops of light.

checkout the pic i posted one or two pages back, F1.2 1/8000th, ISO100, and it definitely bright 90 degree sunlight

timnosenzo

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 06:16

checkout the pic i posted one or two pages back, F1.2 1/8000th, ISO100, and it definitely bright 90 degree sunlight

1/8000 is the fastest shutter speed on a 5D, so I don't know if you're agreeing with me or disagreeing. :confused:

A 3 stop ND would bring that shot down around 1/1000 which would give you a little more leeway if you had any brighter highlights in the shot.

sootyvrs

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 07:02

Rudi

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 07:05

I use a 2 stop ND which works a treat and luckily the 35L & 135L has the same 72mm thread.

... and the 85L! Canon build a system that makes a lot of sense... :)

orisky

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 12:02

1/8000 is the fastest shutter speed on a 5D, so I don't know if you're agreeing with me or disagreeing. :confused:

A 3 stop ND would bring that shot down around 1/1000 which would give you a little more leeway if you had any brighter highlights in the shot.

What i mean to say was I was at 1/8000th at bright sunlight and still didn't have to kick it down to ISO50. So I had a bit of room to play with still.

90c4

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 12:24

I posted a shot with a ND8 (3 stop) filter at F1.2 in this thread:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=5388515&postcount=8

has anyone rn into difficulties with max aperture to much for the max shutter speed?
in daylight or sunlight would iso 50 be slow enough for f1.2 shots?

if not would a polarizer bring it down enough or will i need an nd filter ( i do have an nd8 77mm and a stepdown ring)

I would tes myself but its in transit! :)

WillK

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 15:15

Guess what the brown truck just dropped off!!!:D:D:D:D

cant wait to get home and try it out!

WillK

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 17:12

Double Negative

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 17:24

OK.....I just took the lens home during my break and attached it to the camera, its A LOT of GLASS! Anyhow, I noticed that the manual focus ring is pretty loose. Its not dampened like other canon lens. Just wondering if that is normal?

It's electronic, not mechanical - so, yes. ;)

Feels a little like a bowling ball, doesn't it? Heh.

Canon Bob

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 17:34

I thought I'd try something a little different and put the 5D and 85L to use as a birding setup for half an hour.
This was pretty close to MFD and taken using a wireless trigger and Zigview remote viewfinder. The misty lower portion of the frame is the OOF forward part of the wall that the Robin was standing on.
Bob

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/CanonBob/IMG_0005d.jpg

SeattleSpeedster

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 18:37

^^ nice shot bob

its funny when this lens arrived i was also shocked at how big it is....looks small in pics

neighbors lavender at f1.8

http://www.vispoint.com/album/Flowers%20and%20Foliage/slides/lavenderfence4.jpg

S-S

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 18:43

Rudi

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 21:00

I thought I'd try something a little different and put the 5D and 85L to use as a birding setup for half an hour.

I knew you'd end up with one of each, Bob, I just knew it! (5D and 85L) :D Great shot!

orisky

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 21:15

Another 5D + 85L combo

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/319816552_sVT6q-XL.jpg

I hope this next one is appropriate for this forum:

5D + 85L @ 1.4

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/319653330_WJKTM-XL.jpg

DEMO

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 21:18

5D + 85L @ 1.4

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/319653330_WJKTM-XL.jpg

Beautiful shot and model..

timnosenzo

25th of June 2008 (Wed), 21:54

WillK

26th of June 2008 (Thu), 02:56

It's electronic, not mechanical - so, yes. ;)

Feels a little like a bowling ball, doesn't it? Heh.

LOL...a very expensive bowling ball:D

Psychic1

26th of June 2008 (Thu), 03:06

I cheated - I used a tripod - 5D @F1.2:)

SoaringUSAEagle

26th of June 2008 (Thu), 15:30

Here's a shot from last night at f/4 with the 580EXII for a bit of fill.

http://blog.jeffreyallred.com/images/jake4.jpg

philthejuggler

26th of June 2008 (Thu), 16:59

^^^ Nice work!

Tobiah

26th of June 2008 (Thu), 17:50

2 poor offerings just to show the bokeh goodness

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3291/2613659543_c9500bc73c.jpg SHARP PAST 100%
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/2614509410_340b080b8c.jpg closer crop. not sure how to do 100%

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3025/2614488782_0dda9ec32a.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3287/2613682761_1816d70f83_o.jpg sharp nose... just missed the af point but at full picture its acceptable
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/2614525094_c98c9e5c0d_o.jpg focus on nose :D

These are my 5d out of camera
I tried it on my 40d and the bokeh was only about half as good? is this me. i tried it on different shots etc. will have to do a comparison but has anyone noticed the bokeh with 5D is TOTALLLLLY not just marginally better....

Tobiah

26th of June 2008 (Thu), 17:55

the autofocus on mark 2 is really good as well. not the fastish but very acurate either with hardly any light i have found...

Luminodio

26th of June 2008 (Thu), 20:20

I tried it on my 40d and the bokeh was only about half as good? is this me. i tried it on different shots etc. will have to do a comparison but has anyone noticed the bokeh with 5D is TOTALLLLLY not just marginally better....
it's not you. two words...

full frame. :)

(decided to buy a new display and software to make my workflow more efficient. this lens will be mine someday though.)

sootyvrs

27th of June 2008 (Fri), 06:05

the autofocus on mark 2 is really good as well. not the fastish but very acurate either with hardly any light i have found...

Looking good, enjoy the magic of the 85L! :D

shaktipalooza

27th of June 2008 (Fri), 16:20

http://largelifephotography.smugmug.com/photos/320782033_pU6fG-X2.jpg
http://largelifephotography.smugmug.com/photos/320787717_Srun4-X2.jpg
http://largelifephotography.smugmug.com/photos/320784226_4yjqh-X2.jpg

dadCameraGuy

27th of June 2008 (Fri), 17:03

^^ beautiful portraits! (great lens too eh? :) )

laimis.s

27th of June 2008 (Fri), 17:17

ahhh... I shouldn't have come here...

Now im wanting to blow my savings on this lens instead of saving for a car >.<

*must resist*

Canon Bob

27th of June 2008 (Fri), 17:27

ahhh... I shouldn't have come here...

Now im wanting to blow my savings on this lens instead of saving for a car >.<

*must resist*

Why resist....a bike's a good substitute for a car but there's no substitute for this lens.

whoadude

27th of June 2008 (Fri), 17:51

What an awesome lens. I think it should aptly be renamed "The Black Hole", since no light escapes it!

SarahJD

27th of June 2008 (Fri), 18:19

Thought I'd add one instead of just "talking" all the time. :)

f/1.8

*ETA: Oops -- we decided on no family pictures, so I'll take some others and post later. Sorry.*

Sarah

Tobiah

27th of June 2008 (Fri), 19:14

i just love how it renders light and dark. it actually makes things look amazing. the contrast is wow

smorter

28th of June 2008 (Sat), 11:39

Madweasel

28th of June 2008 (Sat), 13:31

I notice in a lot of the shots the OOF highlights are truncated. Not sure if anyone knows what I'm talking about but imagine a circular OOF highlight, but with a side cut off. I've noticed that in a lot of the shots, is there a reason this happens?

Not sure I can type it but it looks like this:
(]

instead of () if that makes sense...lol
It's because of obstruction of some light by the camera mirror-box itself. The aperture is circular in the centre of the image, but when wide open, or nearly so, more oblique rays are cut off by physical obstructions. If it's just the lens body then you'll get the () shape (a lozenge, not a circle), but if it's the body mirror-box, you can get (] shapes. Narrower apertures are progressively less affected.

Tobiah

28th of June 2008 (Sat), 18:48

just shot my first wedding with this lens. all i can say is WOWOWOWOW

dadCameraGuy

28th of June 2008 (Sat), 21:18

just shot my first wedding with this lens. all i can say is WOWOWOWOW

and we say (in unison) Please post pix! :)

Tobiah

28th of June 2008 (Sat), 21:20

ok some can be seen on my blog. no 85l shots up there yet but some others. 85l shots i'll try look at tomorrow...

www.tobiahtayo.com for the blog

S-S

28th of June 2008 (Sat), 22:09

ok some can be seen on my blog. no 85l shots up there yet but some others. 85l shots i'll try look at tomorrow...

www.tobiahtayo.com (http://www.tobiahtayo.com) for the blog

ok... i officially LOVE your work
do you have an rss feed for your blog? couldnt find it...

edit: nm, found it :) lookin forward to seeing some 85L loveliness!

smorter

28th of June 2008 (Sat), 22:53

It's because of obstruction of some light by the camera mirror-box itself. The aperture is circular in the centre of the image, but when wide open, or nearly so, more oblique rays are cut off by physical obstructions. If it's just the lens body then you'll get the () shape (a lozenge, not a circle), but if it's the body mirror-box, you can get (] shapes. Narrower apertures are progressively less affected.

Ah thanks, makes sense! Does this suggest that sometimes it's better not to use a hood to avoid obstructing these light rays? Any other prevention techniques?

SeattleSpeedster

28th of June 2008 (Sat), 23:10

absolutely out of the park tobiah....great page

Tobiah

29th of June 2008 (Sun), 02:42

thanks guys. i will have a look for a 85L one to process next...

rattymouse

29th of June 2008 (Sun), 04:43

On the road with the 85mm 1.2 L.

Amulet market in Bangkok:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/2620707086_7fbdfd9f7e_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3078/2620710026_d6ac491202_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/2619887767_5fbd21de3d_b.jpg