canon1d setting

[johnbrown]

i jsut got my idd like a couple days ago and im use to my hassleblad..

I dont know how to change it to shoot b/w ... can somoene help. is it possible

[Jim_T]

There is no black and white setting on the 1D.

All Canon Digital SLR cameas have color sensors and take color pictures. Some DSLR models have software installed to make the images B&W by removing the color information.

You can do this after the fact using suitable editing software.. I might be wrong, but I don't think any of the pro bodies support black and white or sepia.. They're really just gimmicks :)

[Kristian]

Don't think it features monchrome at all. You have to do that in the PP afterwards.

[Billginthekeys]

even if it did offer B&W there is NO, and i mean NO, reason to do it in the camera. If you take in B&W then you can NEVER have it in color. whereas if you take it in color you can easily convert it and enhance it in photoshop. there would be no advantage or better quality by shooting it B&W in the camera.

[Jim_T]

If you take in B&W then you can NEVER have it in color.

That's not true.. The sensor is a color device. RAW is just the unprocessed output from the sensor. Since nothing is ever changed or removed from the RAW file, this output still includes the color information.

All the color is still there. It's just that the RAW software in your computer is converting it to B&W just like the firmware in the camera.. (That's all RAW software does.. It mimics the firmware in the camera).

If you take a RAW set to B&W, then download it to the computer, then go into the options and select color, instead of B&W then the image will be in color. The color is discarded in firmware or software processing. It's not discarded from the RAW file.

However, if you shoot in JPEG, then the RAW information (along with the color) is discarded after the image is converted to B&W. In this case, you can never get the color back.

[dpastern]

No Jim - the sensor itself simply measures photons hitting them, it doesn't care about colour etc. The Bayer filter on top though, does help produce the RGB channels. But - the actual sensor is effectively black/white.

Dave

[Billginthekeys]

yea.... i was refering to JPEG.....

i didnt know that about RAW though, thats cool. thanks for the info. although it only furthers to state that there is no good reason to do in camera B&W.

[Jim_T]

No Jim - the sensor itself simply measures photons hitting them, it doesn't care about colour etc. The Bayer filter on top though, does help produce the RGB channels. But - the actual sensor is effectively black/white.

Dave

True.. There is actually no color at all. The light falling on the sensor sites causes varying voltages which get digitized into bits and bytes..... But there is enough information from the digitized output of the sensor in the RAW file to create the colors our eyes see :) As long as you shoot RAW, that information is always there.

[dpastern]

No, the sensor does bugger all with colour, it's all the Bayer filter. For reference, have a read of this Adobe PDF:

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/pdfs/understanding_digitalrawcapture.pdf

:-)

Foveon sensors are different, in that they do detect colour. Canon/Nikon/Everyone elses sensors however do NOT detect colour. Remove the Bayer filter from your sensor and try and get a colour image, you won't get very far :)

Dave

[johnbrown]

thanks everyone for the help.. i learned more.. wow.. the only reason i was asking of this because usually in overcast days i would have preferred to shoot b/w so since that isnt possible ill photoshop the **** out of it.. hah thanks again to everyone