View Full Version : Please recommend a good L 'walk around' lens
1stKnight
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 11:06
Hi there,
I'm currently using an EF-S 17-85 as my 'walk around' lens; walking around historic towns / villages etc with my wife, I prefer to travel as light as possible and don't carry additional lenses with me all the time.
While I get decent picture's from it, I get sharper, more pleasing shots from my other lenses.
My solution to this is to replace it with a new L lens...but I'm not sure which one to buy as a 'general' lens.
Any recommendations?
Southswede
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 11:17
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=223495
Col_M
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 11:25
I'd be very tempted by the 17-55 2.8 IS, it's not an L but IQ is very good from what i've seen, it can be had for around £660, less if you take advantage of our mate Kerso :)
If you don't mind losing 7mm at the wide end the 24-70 and 24-105 are great, each have their advantages and everyone will defend their choice to the death :lol:
tsaraleksi
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 11:27
I use a 17-40 as a walk around. I did use a 28-105 but I haven't really missed the long end (and have been pleased as can be about the wide). It's an excellent lens.
Luckie8
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 11:31
I use a 17-40 as a walk around.
I second that..
17-40L the most affordable L lens and it is superb.
1stKnight
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 11:43
Thanks for the advice everyone.
I'll have a look at the 24-105 L and 17-40 L. I'm visiting my sister in Texas for Christmas so I'll very likely purchase it over there and make it a present to myself; any recommendations for a reputable US-based online shop that I could get a good price from?
Mr. Clean
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 11:46
B&H
Dan-o
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 11:50
24-105. Can't beat that range.
kevin_c
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 12:07
Another 24-105L vote :-)
Tyreman
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 12:09
Some people say......the 24-105f/4L is Great!
Even the 28-105f/3.5-4.5 II usm is very good for the price..it aint' no slouch.
JimAskew
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 12:11
Sigma just announced an 18-200MM HSM w/OS (same as IS in the Canon world) for the Canon EF mount. I am going to wait and see how the reviewers rate that lens...it is a great range for "walk around" purposes.
illy
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 12:18
I'd be very tempted by the 17-55 2.8 IS, it's not an L but IQ is very good from what i've seen, it can be had for around £660, less if you take advantage of our mate Kerso :)
If you don't mind losing 7mm at the wide end the 24-70 and 24-705 are great, each have their advantages and everyone will defend their choice to the death :lol:
Assuming the IQ of the 24-705 is as good as with the 24-105, it must be the best walk around lens that exists :lol:
I'd reccommend the tamron 28-75mm or the canon 17-40mm
Stan43
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 12:32
I like the Canon 24-105L, or the Tamron 17-50 2.8. Both are great but I like the reach of the 105 vs the wide of the 17 on the Tamron. Both of mine are very sharp.
jestergx4
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 12:33
I have the 17-40L. One of the most affordable "L" lenses you can buy. A great walk-around lens.
Col_M
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 12:38
Assuming the IQ of the 24-705 is as good as with the 24-105, it must be the best walk around lens that exists :lol:
LOL ;) edited
Billginthekeys
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 14:00
another vote for the 24-105
incendy
8th of October 2006 (Sun), 14:03
I find I usually end up using the 35 1.4. I bought the 24-70 for this exact purpose, but am finding I like the results fo the 35mm much more.
Outland
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:00
I would say the 24-105 L IS, as I have just got one:) and Iam very pleased with this len's as a walk around. this is paired up with a 17-40 L for all the wide stuff.
cjm
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:14
How about my lens the 28-80 L, lol not that good for a walk about as with is the 24-70 f2.8 L because they weigh so much. But if you can handle the weight then hands down I think you would like that sort of range. The 24-70 L is a lens you'd probably always use but you have to get over the weight. Once you do, you'll be impressed.
Dorman
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:18
Since you already have the ultra wide and 100mm+ ranges covered I'd vote for the 24-105 F/4 IS or the 24-70 F/2.8, depending on what you need more, IS vs. Speed.
amarasme
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:29
For walk-around and travel I use a 17-40L on a 20D (more or less equivalent to 28-64 on a FF camera).
Great lense, and together with the 20D half the weight, and half the investment to carry with me, when compared with a 5D and a 24-70L or 24-105L.
At the most I will also carry a small prime in my bag, like the 85 f1.8 (135 mm on a FF), for candids, details, etc. Still light and relatively inexpensive without compromising quality.
tsaraleksi
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:34
Of course, when considering the 17-40, you have to take into account the danger it poses (I see the original poster already has this problem, but it's a general warning). As soon as you add that relativly inexpensive red ring to your lens family, you suddenly discover a "need" for a wide variety of other L lenses that you had no idea that you previously needed. And they all cost more. Those marketing folks at Canon are sly devils ;) .
ed rader
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:35
I have the 17-40L. One of the most affordable "L" lenses you can buy. A great walk-around lens.
the 17-40L is a decent walkround especially if you are into landscapes.
ed rader
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ed rader
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:38
Assuming the IQ of the 24-705 is as good as with the 24-105, it must be the best walk around lens that exists :lol:
I'd reccommend the tamron 28-75mm or the canon 17-40mm
my 24-70L is as good as my former 24-105L at least for general shooting. i took this pic at twilight handheld with the 24-70L tho for something like this the 24-105L is a better choice.
ed rader
http://www.fototime.com/D8CEC07A3A7EBA4/orig.jpg
tdaugharty
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 15:58
17-40L and the rest on my belt ;)
Wilt
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 16:01
Thanks for the advice everyone.
I'll have a look at the 24-105 L and 17-40 L. I'm visiting my sister in Texas for Christmas so I'll very likely purchase it over there and make it a present to myself; any recommendations for a reputable US-based online shop that I could get a good price from?
Place the order with B&H Photo before you travel, specify her mailing address as the shipping location, pick it up when you visit her!
jr_senator
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 16:10
I have a 20D, my walk-around lens is the 24-70L, works for me.
steved110
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 16:17
My walk around is the 17-40L, and I love it. but if I had to have just one lens, it would be the 24-105 f/4 L for the extra reach.
If you need something faster, you need to look at the 24-70 f/2.8 L and the 17-55 EF-S f/2.8 lens
Best value is probably the 17-40L
Wilt
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 16:20
Hi there,
I'm currently using an EF-S 17-85 as my 'walk around' lens; walking around historic towns / villages etc with my wife, I prefer to travel as light as possible and don't carry additional lenses with me all the time.
While I get decent picture's from it, I get sharper, more pleasing shots from my other lenses.
My solution to this is to replace it with a new L lens...but I'm not sure which one to buy as a 'general' lens.
Any recommendations?
You want a lens which does not exist...17-85 f/4L EF .
If you dislike weight (like me -- longtime Olympus OM fan!) carrying a 2 lb. 24-70 f/2.8L on your shoulder (while you casually play tourist) is too much like work -- but not getting paid for a job to carry the weight! I find I need 28mm (film) as my minimum walkaround at the wide end (which puts you into 17mm on a 1.6 crop frame).
superdiver
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 16:23
I am waiting for my 24-105L IS as I type. To hear so many good things said about it is reasuring...
busterboy
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 16:30
The 24-70L is a really sharp lens giving good results..:)
KevC
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 17:00
I love my 17-40L on a 1.6x crop body. I think it'd be nice on a 1.3x crop aswell. On full frame, however, it's about the 24-105L :D
JNunn
9th of October 2006 (Mon), 22:49
I use my 17-40L as my walkaround lens. Its never been too short for me especially if you like buildings, landscapes, statuary, monuments, flowers etc. Its probably my most utilitarian lens.
michael_
10th of October 2006 (Tue), 06:33
for its range the 24-105 most definately . 24-70 also even though i have neither i think its the perfect range for me.
Lord_Malone
10th of October 2006 (Tue), 06:42
my 24-70L is as good as my former 24-105L at least for general shooting. i took this pic at twilight handheld with the 24-70L tho for something like this the 24-105L is a better choice.
ed rader
I'm curious to know what prompted you to switch from the 24-105 to the 24-70, Ed.
CoolToolGuy
10th of October 2006 (Tue), 14:30
Another vote for the EF-S 17-55 f2.8 IS - L or no-L its a great lens.
Have Fun,
ed rader
10th of October 2006 (Tue), 15:42
I'm curious to know what prompted you to switch from the 24-105 to the 24-70, Ed.
LM -- i've talked this thing to death but i'll sum it up for you.
here's what i didn't like about the 24-105L:
-- not a good portrait lens
-- average to terrible bokeh
-- not good wide open
-- not great after about 90mm
i had rented a 24-70L in the past so i knew what this lens was capable of. also i believe my copy of the 24-105L was not stellar, only average.
anyhow.........i bought a 17-40 and it had IQ comparable to the 24-105L but was totally usable @ f4!
i figure an L lens should be usable wide open....especially if it is F4.
i do a lot of animal and people portraits for which the 24-105L did an average job. it was my least favorite portrait lens but because it was on my camera most of the time it was used the most for portraits.
i bought the 85 1.8 and WOW....this lens shreds on portraits.
so here i had a walkaround that i had no confidence in using wide open or for portraits.
don't get me wrong the 24-105L is a very good lens with other strengths but i had just gotten to the point where i wanted a walkround that was very good for portraits, could be used wide open with confidence, and had better bokeh.
the obvious choice for me was the 24-70L. yep the brick. i bought Dante's 24-70L and it is an excellent copy and simply has better IQ than my copy the 24-105L as well as great bokeh.
now, if i were to move to FF i would probably pick up another 24-105L.
ed rader
Lord_Malone
10th of October 2006 (Tue), 15:52
LM -- i've talked this thing to death but i'll sum it up for you.
here's what i didn't like about the 24-105L:
-- not a good portrait lens
-- average to terrible bokeh
-- not good wide open
-- not great after about 90mm
i had rented a 24-70L in the past so i knew what this lens was capable of. also i believe my copy of the 24-105L was not stellar, only average.
anyhow.........i bought a 17-40 and it had IQ comparable to the 24-105L but was totally usable @ f4!
i figure an L lens should be usable wide open....especially if it is F4.
i do a lot of animal and people portraits for which the 24-105L did an average job. it was my least favorite portrait lens but because it was on my camera most of the time it was used the most for portraits.
i bought the 85 1.8 and WOW....this lens shreds on portraits.
so here i had a walkaround that i had no confidence in using wide open or for portraits.
don't get me wrong the 24-105L is a very good lens with other strengths but i had just gotten to the point where i wanted a walkround that was very good for portraits, could be used wide open with confidence, and had better bokeh.
the obvious choice for me was the 24-70L. yep the brick. i bought Dante's 24-70L and it is an excellent copy and simply has better IQ than my copy the 24-105L as well as great bokeh.
now, if i were to move to FF i would probably pick up another 24-105L.
ed rader
I see. Thanks for enlightening me, Ed. I had no idea you've already explained this to death. But then again I never pay any attention to any of your posts.
LOL just kidding, dude. ;) Seriously, thanks for spelling it out for me.
puttick
10th of October 2006 (Tue), 17:08
Doesn't it all rather depend on what you like to photograph when you "walk around"?
I like ALL my lenses as "walk around" lenses, on different occasions.
15/2.8
28/2.8
50/2.5 macro
100/2.8 macro
17-40/4 L
24-105/4 L
70-200/4 L
300/4 L IS
1.4 extender
; ^ )
Double Negative
10th of October 2006 (Tue), 17:12
Since getting the 24-70mm f/2.8L, it's on my camera more than any other lens. Love the IQ. It's a bit large and heavy, but IMO that is part of its charm. :p
Lord_Malone
10th of October 2006 (Tue), 17:14
I liked the Canon 28-105 II on my 20D. Inexpensive but impressive piece of kit for just "walk-about" photography.
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