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IanD
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 09:32
Just wondering what folks use as Color Temperature with their 10D's.
I believe that AWB and Custom WB will overrule this setting. Am I right to think so or is it too early on Sunday morning and not enough caffine in the system and my brain is still asleep?
I have the setting at the default 5200.
Just curious.
Ian
Scottes
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 09:39
I have no idea what color temp I use, but I have AWB and shoot RAW and adjust color temp if necessary. So setting it seems moot for RAW at least.
Jesper
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 09:40
To use the colour temperature setting, you have to set White Balance to "K". If you set it to any other mode (auto and custom included) the colour temperature setting has no effect.
I have my camera on auto white balance most of the time and I shoot RAW, so I choose a good setting when I convert the RAW file on the computer (I'm using Capture One DSLR LE for that).
Custom white balance gives the most accurate colours, but you have to shoot a gray or white card first to set it up (see the manual...).
defordphoto
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 09:47
This is where shooting RAW shines brighter than the sun, which we have not seen in about two weeks. If you shoot RAW then it doesn't matter. That's one worry when shooting that you can toss to the side like the Dallas Cowboys in the playoffs. Just get out and shoot and figure out the WB later.
Vegas Poboy
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 10:33
I agree with RFM & Jesper, I keep my camera on RAW so in the quick no look shots the temp is eaisly corrected or adjusted in CS. I've learned to use pretty much just two setting & that is to keep things simple, RAW and/or AWB. I prefer worrying about speed & f/stop more than color temp.
Belmondo
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 10:56
Now, for a completely different point of view.....
I store my camera in full-auto mode---it’s just part of the drill when I’m stowing my equipment. My reasoning is: on those very rare occasions when I want to take a picture in a hurry without having to give any thought to settings, full-auto gives me the best chance of an acceptable result. If I have even a few moments before taking the first picture, I'll change it to Tv or Av, as best suits the situation. Then I'll have a RAW file.
Ultimately, getting some kind of picture is more important that getting a picture in a specific file format if there's any chance the camera is not in the optimum mode for getting the photo opportunity at hand. I guess I just don’t trust my abilities to react quickly when it really counts.
(Boy, is that a convoluted statement. Hopefully it makes some sense, but now, I'm not even sure I know what I meant).
IanD
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 18:20
The sad part is I completely understand what Tom is saying.
Oh man...I need a vacation :)
Ian
defordphoto
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 18:24
Good grief, so do I. :shock:
IanD
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 18:28
We are in serious trouble
Ian
Belmondo
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 18:37
:shock:
Really?
Would someone explain it to me? :?:
IanD
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 18:40
Tom,
Take 2 of these :idea: :idea: and call me in the morning.
I am still trying to adjust to the fact that I understood your post.
I think I need some fresh air...:)
Ian
Canuck
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 18:45
This is where shooting RAW shines brighter than the sun, which we have not seen in about two weeks. If you shoot RAW then it doesn't matter. That's one worry when shooting that you can toss to the side like the Dallas Cowboys in the playoffs. Just get out and shoot and figure out the WB later.
Nevermind the Cowboys, I'm after the female cheerleaders!
defordphoto
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 18:49
:shock:
Really?
Would someone explain it to me? :?:
Well, yeah sure. We need to be ready to shoot a picture at anytime. I think most of use feel that way. We're photographers and we'll shoot anything to capture the world around us. We capture a split-second of time every time we click our shutters.
We hate missing shots. No. We DETEST missing shots. The missed shot can haunt us for a lifetime.
So, we have our cameras on ready status at all times. Preset to where we can pick up. Turn camera on. And shoot. Then we have captured that moment in time and even though it might not be the ideal capture, and some of the settings might not be perfect, we have indeed captured The Moment and that is what is most important in photography.
And then after The Moment is captured we can adjust the settings later in post-processing, attempting to achieve the Perfect Picture of The Moment for an eternity.
I think that's pretty much what you were trying to say. I think I got it all in there. It took a few more paragraphs than your quite excellent waxing of the words. :)
Belmondo
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 18:52
Ah, Jim. You captured it perfectly. You are a cunning linguist indeed.
IanD
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 18:52
:shock:
Really?
Would someone explain it to me? :?:
Well, yeah sure. We need to be ready to shoot a picture at anytime. I think most of use feel that way. We're photographers and we'll shoot anything to capture the world around us. We capture a split-second of time every time we click our shutters.
We hate missing shots. No. We DETEST missing shots. The missed shot can haunt us for a lifetime.
So, we have our cameras on ready status at all times. Preset to where we can pick up. Turn camera on. And shoot. Then we have captured that moment in time and even though it might not be the ideal capture, and some of the settings might not be perfect, we have indeed captured The Moment and that is what is most important in photography.
And then after The Moment is captured we can adjust the settings later in post-processing, attempting to achieve the Perfect Picture of The Moment for an eternity.
I think that's pretty much what you were trying to say. I think I got it all in there. It took a few more paragraphs than your quite excellent waxing of the words. :)
Yup. that's it.
Ian
Canuck
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 18:56
Ah, Jim. You captured it perfectly. You are a cunning linguist indeed.
Cunning linguist, not to be confused, right?
defordphoto
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 19:00
Okay folks let's be careful here now. This could become an adult forum in about three seconds and some creative word placement.
So, how's the weather?
What the heck was this thread about anyway?
Belmondo
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 19:09
Sorry.
The original question was something about color profiles. Most of us are in agreement that it's moot because we're primarily shooting in RAW and can handle white balance in post-processing. I, of course, wandered off topic with my inane presentation on storing the camera in full-auto. Then, Pekka pulled the plug on everything and proffered this new system, and then we started having fun, and here we are.
I will take full credit for the borderline tacky remark. I really am trying to be better.
defordphoto
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 19:11
ROFL! Yeah yeah. That was it. Color temperature. No worries Tom. We all hopped on the cart too. :)
Canuck
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 19:16
Ok, I am just as guilty as the rest, I take blame too. :roll: <<whistles innocently>> I applogise too.
defordphoto
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 19:24
But, actually, getting back OT, have any of you mucked with color temps? I haven't really messed with them much. It's just fine tuning for WB right?
mjordan
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 19:26
But, but, but a really good photographer is NEVER caught with his camera not ready. A really good photographer would have it set for the right setting no matter what situation and picture oppertunity arose.
Now, does anyone know what one of these mthyical photographers look like? :lol:
I shoot raw almost 99% of the time as well.
Mike
defordphoto
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 20:06
Now, does anyone know what one of these mthyical photographers look like? :lol:
You can always pick them out a crowd 'cause the unicorns they're riding on.
msnow
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 20:31
But, actually, getting back OT, have any of you mucked with color temps? I haven't really messed with them much. It's just fine tuning for WB right?
I don't for two reasons. (1) I'd probably forget to set it back and screw up all of the shots that followed it. (2) It seems to me it's wasted energy since this can be done during the conversion process.
IanD
5th of January 2004 (Mon), 06:13
Okay folks let's be careful here now. This could become an adult forum in about three seconds and some creative word placement.
I went to bed early...had nothing to do with the above :)
Ian
BobbyC
5th of January 2004 (Mon), 09:10
I still use a custom WB whenever I can just so I don't have to do it later. Since most of my sessions are done under studio lighting or under similar outdoor lighting, I find it is just one more thing I don't have to do later. I'm not saying my way is right or wrong, just giving another opinion. Since I retouch all my portraits, I need all the time I can get. It also lets me shoot jpg much more efficient (the few times I use it).
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