5D Successor

[picworx]

Like some I am awaiting to see what will replace the 5D. I have a 20D now and I am not keen about upgrading to a 5D especially when dust is becoming a real issue for folks, hence the new Canon dust reduction system just announced.

So my wish is something between a 5D and those 1D's with dust reduction. I can handle sensor cleaning but this option should be on any successor along with the Picture Style option.

However if the only way to map dust is with Canons Photo Professional software that would be a problem, as I prefer to use CS2.

[FlyingPete]

Like some I am awaiting to see what will replace the 5D. I have a 20D now and I am not keen about upgrading to a 5D especially when dust is becoming a real issue for folks, hence the new Canon dust reduction system just announced.

So my wish is something between a 5D and those 1D's with dust reduction. I can handle sensor cleaning but this option should be on any successor along with the Picture Style option.

However if the only way to map dust is with Canons Photo Professional software that would be a problem, as I prefer to use CS2.

I would say it would be fair to day than a 5D successor would have the new dust cleaning thingy, not sure what else they could do to improve over the 5D without stepping on 1D territory. Could up it to the 16MP sensor, perhaps speed it up a little to at least 5fps, what else could be done?

[blackshadow]

I'd like to see the 12MP sensor put pretty much into the current 1D Mark IIN with digic III processing and the dust cleaner thingamijig.

That would be one sweet camera alright! Better AF, high speed shooting, weather seal etc.

It would be a significant step up from the current 5D but still leave Canon with room to move in upgrading the 1Ds.

[René Damkot]

and, pretty please Canon, don't let it be *more* then 12Mp . . .

[Reverend]

How long has the 5d been out? About a year, right? I thought that Canon usually ran their cameras through 2 year cycles before introducing successors.

[FlyingPete]

How long has the 5d been out? About a year, right? I thought that Canon usually ran their cameras through 2 year cycles before introducing successors.

18 months seems fairly typical, I had a play with one in a shop a year ago, so we must be getting close...

[ipacmm]

18 months seems fairly typical, I had a play with one in a shop a year ago, so we must be getting close...


What about the 1ds mk II, it has been out for over 2 years and we still haven't seen an update...

[blackshadow]

What about the 1ds mk II, it has been out for over 2 years and we still haven't seen an update...

There hasn't been a need the 1Ds Mk II has been so far out front of anything else offered by the rivals.

[Reverend]

There hasn't been a need the 1Ds Mk II has been so far out front of anything else offered by the rivals.

Very true, both in terms of ability and price! :lol:

[FlyingPete]

There hasn't been a need the 1Ds Mk II has been so far out front of anything else offered by the rivals.

So we need to head over to a Nikon forum and post our wish lists :lol:

[coreypolis]

both 1d's need to be updated, so does the 30d, its hardly an upgrade over the 20d.

Canon still holds their ground in a lot of aspects, but theres a lot offered by Nikon that Canon is really lacking in

look at what they are offering:
all nikons
better metering system, wider spread of AF points (is there really anything outside the middle of the viewfinder in the 5d?)

d2xs
Image Overlay and Multiple Exposure
The Multiple Exposure function creates a single image from up to 10 exposures. The D2Xs also offers an Image Overlay function that merges selected RAW (NEF) files already stored on the CF card to create a new image file within the camera.


The eye-level viewfinder features frame coverage of virtually 100% and a 19.9mm eyepoint. Information bars along the bottom and right edges display the current white balance mode, image quality and size settings, ISO setting and more.

In-camera Image Trimming
RAW, TIFF and JPEG images taken using the D2Xs can be trimmed within the camera to produce images of reduced display sizes ranging from 640x480 to 2560x1920 pixels. The smaller files that result can help improve workflow efficiency by eliminating the time required to download and perform software editing within a computer.


Lithium-ion Battery System with Even Greater Power
The EN-EL4a rechargeable lithium-ion battery retains the same form, but features significantly increased capacity that delivers enough power for up to 3400 shots per charge. The system's real-time status display gives accurate feedback on the percentage of remaining battery charge, the number of shots taken since the last charge, the overall status of service life, as well as notification when calibration is recommended. Furthermore, the Battery can be recharged at any time or any level, features extended service life, and performs well at low temperatures.

GPS support (optional)
With the optional MC-35 GPS Adapter Cord, location information such as latitude, longitude, altitude and heading (direction) can be transferred from a GPS device and recorded with the shooting data for each image.

they now have a grip with wireless ftp technology for the d200, where as canon only has it for the 1 series, and its 800 + a PITA

[sm1rf]

coreypolis you have done your homework :)

[buffalophotographer]

Is'nt the wireless transmitter for the D2X super cheap like $150

[cosworth]

I shoot 300 pictures a day on the beach. Clear, horizon laden shots where boogers are in plain sight. Changing lenses about hmm... 20 times a day. I clean my sensor every Thursday after I ride shotgun on a boat/hobie excursion and soak my camera bag and threaten my 1D within one soaking of its' life.

I clean my sensor every 1800 shots, every 120 lens changes. In fine coarl sand conditions. If you guys worry about "DUST" and it holds you back from buying a camera you like, you're nuts.

Every film camera I owned needed a blow before swapping in film. Every 24 shots! Please, just go buy the camer a you want and stop fussing over the internet hype about dust.

Clone tool!

[I Simonius]

Like some I am awaiting to see what will replace the 5D. I have a 20D now and I am not keen about upgrading to a 5D especially when dust is becoming a real issue for folks, hence the new Canon dust reduction system just announced.

So my wish is something between a 5D and those 1D's with dust reduction. I can handle sensor cleaning but this option should be on any successor along with the Picture Style option.

However if the only way to map dust is with Canons Photo Professional software that would be a problem, as I prefer to use CS2.

Just about the only thing that hasnt been discussed in this (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=157341&page=10) thread alreadu on 5D upgeates isthe question of dust removal

Personally Im not so keen with the proposed system on the 400d transferring to the 5d

[Sprout Crumble]

Why?

It seems about as effective as anything else out there and will at least reduce the amount of times you have to do it manually. Perfect dust removal systems aren't possible for numerous reasons.

[24Peter]

Why?

It seems about as effective as anything else out there and will at least reduce the amount of times you have to do it manually. Perfect dust removal systems aren't possible for numerous reasons.

The dust removal system on the 400D is a joke; here's a shot after the auto sensor cleaner ran probably 30 times (dust courteousy of Canon factory)

http://photos.imageevent.com/24peter/upload2/huge/XTi%20Dust%20test%20before.JPG

Here's after 15 seconds with a $2 bulb blower (Canon's own brand of course :lol: )

http://photos.imageevent.com/24peter/upload2/huge/XTi%20dust%20test%20after.JPG

Say what you like but this tells me Canon's anti dust system (on the 400D at least) does little more than waste your batteries.

[Sprout Crumble]

Damn, been hearing good reports too.

[samsen]

And those who compared Nikon, What about GPS option that even D200 has it, yet to see any Canon offering it.

I would think for a bird/animal shooter or a traveler, this is a great option, especially if GPS can be integrated into camera body. Looking at cheap under $ 50 usb GPSs, it seems one easy point that Canon can win (Correction; Keeping that winning distance) on Nikon in next upgrades even on entry levels.

[ChrisBlaze]

Does NIkon have FF? No... other companies base what they put in thier camera's based on the pro-market. Look at the UK,most of the lead landscape magazines editors use Nikon, most pro US landscape shooters use Nikon, so they probably asked for a GPS, and they got it.Canon has sports wrapped around its finger, what do they want? FASTER focus, and they got it.

[freefallu]

GPS is , it seems to me about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike

[I Simonius]

GPS is , it seems to me about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike

nice analogy!:D

[CoolToolGuy]

GPS is , it seems to me about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike

For you, perhaps, but I can imagine law enforcement, nature fotogs, travel fotogs, and many other types of photographers would find it interesting and valuable, especially if the location became part of the EXIF data upon capture. Sony announced a GPS dongle affair where you link up the GPS info during post processing, but it sounded to me like a stopgap solution. I hope GPS becomes available soon.

Have Fun,

[samsen]

GPS is , it seems to me about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike

Very nicely said.:evil:
Also could be a close relative of yours once said "If man is to fly, should have been born with feather"
Sorry I don't drive motorcycle nor smoke. So easy to say have no way to understand what you are talking about. But a lot of time when looking back at my travel picture wish I new exact location for one reason or other and also when another photographer wants to know location of the bird or plant I shot, nothing would be more priceless to just check the EXIF at his end, without even asking a question.
Technology is moving fast whether you like to pace yourself with it or not.
I feel very pity if Canon misses the race due to any short sighted personal that can not look beyond the box at higher levels of decision making.

[freefallu]

just my opinion , just me. Id like to see some of the fabled 1d features on the upgrade before id like to be able to say i took the pic at 10´north blah blah.. and have the needed antennas sticking out of an already heavy camera. Maybe as an upgrade item , but not a standard. Horses for courses i supppose. I had to chuckle at the personal remarks ..deary me..

[davidfig]

Seems to me the reason for GPS is more forensic related than anything else. I don't remember anyone asking me for proof of where I took my landscape pictures. So GPS seems a niche that is needed for that niche.

[I Simonius]

Very nicely said.:evil:
Also could be a close relative of yours once said "If man is to fly, should have been born with feather"
Sorry I don't drive motorcycle nor smoke. So easy to say have no way to understand what you are talking about. But a lot of time when looking back at my travel picture wish I new exact location for one reason or other and also when another photographer wants to know location of the bird or plant I shot, nothing would be more priceless to just check the EXIF at his end, without even asking a question.
Technology is moving fast whether you like to pace yourself with it or not.
I feel very pity if Canon misses the race due to any short sighted personal that can not look beyond the box at higher levels of decision making.

I think all cameras should be fitted with hovercraft engines and skirt (minutiature ones of course), it would save a fortune on tripods! As I personally am not Mr Globetrotter I would rather pay for a mirror lock up button on my 5D than boggin' GPS!:rolleyes:

[I Simonius]

Seems to me the reason for GPS is more forensic related than anything else. I don't remember anyone asking me for proof of where I took my landscape pictures. So GPS seems a niche that is needed for that niche.

If pople want it sure - give it 'em but as an extra like wi-fi anntenna. Dead wheight AFAIC:rolleyes:

[samsen]

I think all cameras should be fitted with hovercraft engines and skirt (minutiature ones of course), it would save a fortune on tripods! As I personally am not Mr Globetrotter I would rather pay for a mirror lock up button on my 5D than boggin' GPS!:rolleyes:

Don't forget that Nikons including cheaper D200 have GPS as an option on EXIF, just check a picture taken with them. I don't think anyone of them needs moving motor drive or halogen balloon...

Why hovercraft? when we can have rocket engine...



If pople want it sure - give it 'em but as an extra like wi-fi anntenna. Dead wheight AFAIC:rolleyes:

If by Wi-Fi you mean a means for local networking or may be "Blue tooth" then you hit on right bottom. That is one feature definitely missed on any camera now and will be there soon only should see which company is gonna make the credit on his side. It will be very convenient for eg to send images directly as being taken in a restaurant or marriage to printer or the assistant with laptop who can perform the pp etc. before printing so even before photographer leaves a table image is been sent for sale. Just think of Wow factor there. Even if this is not exciting a wireless transfer of images definitely is my favorite way, saving the hassle of finding that damn cable or memory reader....:evil: :lol:

[delhi]

what the 5d replacement or any pro-level dSLR needs is bluetooth technology. Then who gives a crap about GPS or cellphone or ashtrays. Just bluetooth to connect to your existing devices be it a GPS receiver, PDA or cellphone.