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Wickedfn4u
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 23:31
I now need to go from storage to print. The one I have been eyeing is the Epson 2200. I was wondering if anyone had experience with this or the 1280? Or, if you use something else what and why? Right now I am using an officejet 7130xi all in one or a Canon i70. Any help would be great.
gsmx2
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 23:49
My wife and I have had Epson printers for a long time. Currently we have a 760 and a 1280. Love them both. Don't think you can go wrong with an Epson....use Epson papers.
gsm x2
KO_300D
4th of January 2004 (Sun), 23:54
I've also had good results using Epson. In fact, I'd never owned any other brand of printer until I got my Lexmark Z65 for xmas last year... and the only reason I needed a new one was because I ...er.. accidentally broke my poor epson by messing round with it's insides. Not a good idea.
Speaking of which.... Epson printer going for spares or repair if anyone's interested hehe
defordphoto
5th of January 2004 (Mon), 00:02
The large format 2200 is pretty sweet. Prints last upwards of 50-75 years if you sue the right paper.
People also like to Canon i9600 I think the numbers are now too. I have the Epson 2200, a Canon i850 and a herd of HP printers.
The 2200 is definitely my fave without a doubt...
stoneylonesome
5th of January 2004 (Mon), 07:03
Check out the new Canon i960 about $199.00 US beautiful results very fast, 6 individual ink tanks so you don't waste ink you only have to replace the one that's out.
CyberDyneSystems
5th of January 2004 (Mon), 12:29
Definately look at the Canon printers!!
I find them to be more reliable than most Epsons and with equal if not better print quality with the correct papers. (they are both so good it is hard to say which is better image wise)
The individual inktanks on the Canon's is a huge plus. When I ran out of "photo magenta" t4 of th remaining 5 colors were still 3/4 or more full!!! Photo Cyan was the second to run out about tem 8X10 prints later!
I have the i950 and have never used a more capable printer. The newer version is the i960.
Yesterday I grabbed the big brother,. the 9100 large format printer! :) I haven't even instlled it yet but I am itching to print a 13"x19"!!
Pekka
5th of January 2004 (Mon), 12:37
How is print longevity contest between Canon and Epson going? Who makes prints that last longest (in UV)?
And has anyone ink/paper cost comparisons?
Wickedfn4u
5th of January 2004 (Mon), 12:59
The individual inktanks on the Canon's is a huge plus. When I ran out of "photo magenta" t4 of th remaining 5 colors were still 3/4 or more full!!! Photo Cyan was the second to run out about tem 8X10 prints later!
I believe the 2200 and maybe the 1280 also have individual tanks 7 different tanks.
rizla
5th of January 2004 (Mon), 13:01
cds,
i have Just purchased the s9000, What paper do you use?
rizla
CyberDyneSystems
5th of January 2004 (Mon), 13:23
On the i950 I have been using Canon "photo paper plus" and Canon "photo paper pro"
Visually I see no difference in quality between the two as far as print goes. The "Pro" is heavier and I believe it is the one that Canon claims will have longer lasting prints.
I have had good succes with Epson papers as well... I particularly like the quality and price of Epson heavy matte for certain prints. The high quality Epson gloss and satin wor well too,. but I am concerned about longevity with the competing papers.
I haven't even used the i9100 large format yet,. but I suspect the results will be about the same as the two printers use identical inks.
John_T
5th of January 2004 (Mon), 14:58
Hi Pekka, or is it Marlin?
I don't think anybody is going to live long enough, or even care at that point in the future, to see how the longevity question comes out. Though it seems accepted that pigment inks will last longer than dye, most people care what their pix look like now. I don't believe many of the longevity claims being thrown about, primarily marketing hype, but legallly there is no way to nail down any claims so people will say what they like. I respect Canon's reticence to make claims.
I've heard whispers that Canon will be coming out with some new inks for the current line of printers early this year, so we'll see what that brings.
Most short-term fading is gas fading and that has directly to do with nanopourous papers which I have had with HP papers within six months. As for UV, pigment will probably be better than dye, though again papers play a role too. Resin based papers are better for UV and some people spray their prints for extra protection.
Here is a little guide:
http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/prod_html/galerie/htm/gtp/how_suits.htm
iwatkins
5th of January 2004 (Mon), 15:51
Rizla,
On my i9100 I use the following papers:
1. Canon Photo Paper Plus Gloss and Canon Photo Paper Pro Gloss. These both give excellent results and the colours stand out really well. I've used the 6x4, 7x5, A4 and A3 in the Pro stuff and love it. Great for shots to show people for them to hold in their hands.
2. Ilford Galerie Classic Pearl in A4. This is by far the best paper I've found for printing black and white shots from the i9100. I.e. convert an image to B&W and just print it. OK, uses all the colours to do it but this does give a very neutral print with nice black blacks and nice white whites.
3. ICI Olmec Matt finish papers. These give excellent results for framing. I only like to use matt finish if it is going to sit behind glass. Makes the image have less reflections. This paper gives very nice output and the matt is very very matt. Do some nice heavyweight papers.
First two can be had in PCWorld, but for routine purchases shop around as PCWorld are of course putting large markups on the stuff they sell. The third paper (Olmec) I go to www.7dayshop.com for those (and for inks).
Cheers
Ian
edistophoto
14th of January 2004 (Wed), 20:11
You might try Red River Paper. They sell many different styles and are fairly priced
msnow
15th of January 2004 (Thu), 09:24
How is print longevity contest between Canon and Epson going? Who makes prints that last longest (in UV)?
And has anyone ink/paper cost comparisons?
My understanding is that Epson has the edge in print logenvity, especially when combining their ink with Epson paper. I prefer the newer Canon printers however. The image quality, to me, is slightly better and I like the abiliity to replace the individual ink tanks. I recently bought the S9000, there's some good deals to be had on this printer right now.
John_T
15th of January 2004 (Thu), 09:36
Yes, pigment inks are supposed to hold up longer, depending on display or archiving conditions, however pigment inks don't have as wide a color gamut as dye inks and look a bit flat, or put otherwise, not as alive.
It appears the Canon i9xxx give the best quality prints at the moment, though it can be a question of taste. I have the i9100 and wouldn't trade it for anything.
Canuck
20th of January 2004 (Tue), 20:42
That is another item (large format printer) on the "to buy list" when I get back to the US as well as a real monitor it is cheaper there. This one is a slowly dying 6 yr old Princeton EO70, and the other one is a Nokia Multigraph 447X, both 17 in monitors. I am also wondering if it is cheaper to go to CompUSA/Best Buy or a place like B&H for that stuff? If it is B&H that might be easier.
hawg
23rd of January 2004 (Fri), 00:52
I have both the 1280 and i960. And they are both very good. While the 1280 might be slightly better in picture quality IMO,the i960's speed make it a beetter choice for my applications.
As for paper I use Canon paper for the Canon and Epson paper for 1280. I've had great luck with Ilford for both.
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