I'd like to see the sharpest pictures ever

[deadpass]

Well, apparently I don't know what sharp is, cause in this thread http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=226821
I posted a few examples that I thought were pretty sharp for a 28-135, and immediately got shot down. So it got me thinking, well what is sharp then? I've seen some very sharp pictures on here, but I'm looking to everyone else to post the sharpest picture they can, regardless of who took it (make sure posting is ok if you're not the orignal photog)

[CyberDyneSystems]

I'm not at all sure that proving your point required a second thread, but IMHO the ferret shots were plenty sharp at the POF! :)

[Ronald S. Jr.]

Were they crops or full shots? (forgetting about the shape)

[condyk]

... but IMHO the ferret shots were plenty sharp at the POF! :)

What he said ... and sharp is overrated anyway. Interesting is better and harder to achieve ;)

[deadpass]

I'm not at all sure that proving your point required a second thread, but IMHO the ferret shots were plenty sharp at the POF! :)

on the contrary, this thread was so I could educate myself on what "sharp" really is.

Were they crops or full shots? (forgetting about the shape)

both of those shots were 100% crops.

[Becca]

In my very humble opinion, people spend way too much time pixel peeping to see if a particular lens is "sharp". I agree with condyk. Is the picture something I want to look at? Is it something that tells a story or provides some social commentary? You could post the sharpest picture in the world, but if doesn't speak to your audience, who cares? On the other hand, some of the most influential photos ever taken would not pass some people's "sharpness" tests.

Just my 2 cents worth...

[CyberDyneSystems]

For 100% crops, that's really really sharp.
Personally, I would never post an image in this thread... as some joker would tell me images weren't really sharp and I'd be really bummed. I'm not kidding. It's a gauntlet thing. Any slight implication that you have a high regard for one of your own pics, and certain types of people start lining up to deflate your ego. One of the things I've noticed on forums,. the moment you make a claim, you are guaranteed that someone will come along and say otherwise.

[deadpass]

In my very humble opinion, people spend way too much time pixel peeping to see if a particular lens is "sharp". I agree with condyk. Is the picture something I want to look at? Is it something that tells a story or provides some social commentary? You could post the sharpest picture in the world, but if doesn't speak to your audience, who cares? On the other hand, some of the most influential photos ever taken would not pass some people's "sharpness" tests.

Just my 2 cents worth...

well said....

[picturecrazy]

Here are a couple of shots I took my first week out with the 17-55. snapped the neighbour's dog. Wide open @ F2.8. Gosh I'm so happy this lens is great wide open. I hate the idea of stopping down.

http://yoonl.brinkster.net/misc/1755/IMG_8750.JPG

here is a 100% crop. *I* think it's sharp, but I'm sure many people here will tell me it's crap... someone always does.
http://yoonl.brinkster.net/misc/1755/IMG_8750-1.JPG

For personal use, I could care less if a lens was razor sharp or not. But when being paid for your photos, you need to deliver the best you possibly can...
which is why I'll use the 17-55 and 70-200 for clients, but am saving up for the sigma 18-200 for personal use, which is a lens known to be soft. I don't care.

[CyberDyneSystems]

wait for it.... ;)

[condyk]

Sharpish :lol: :lol: :lol: but not that interesting unless you are chummy with the Doggie IMO.

[picturecrazy]

Lol, put it up just for the entertainment. And yes, not very interesting.

someone post a super sharp photo of a naked woman or something...

[peacock]

wait for it.... ;)

:lol: :lol:

[JaGWiRE]

In my very humble opinion, people spend way too much time pixel peeping to see if a particular lens is "sharp". I agree with condyk. Is the picture something I want to look at? Is it something that tells a story or provides some social commentary? You could post the sharpest picture in the world, but if doesn't speak to your audience, who cares? On the other hand, some of the most influential photos ever taken would not pass some people's "sharpness" tests.

Just my 2 cents worth...


Seriously dude. Plus, people also spend too much time in my opinion worrying about how wide open a lens is. I am almost certain if you were to show me well shot photos with the 70-200 F4L and F2.8L, I'de have difficulty telling a difference in them other then the more shallow depth of field at 2.8. I mean I supose if your working with low light the 2.8 is something to definitley open yourself up to as an example, but a friend of mine even says that the shallow depth of field makes it difficult to achieve the results you want sometimes.

I'm beginning to learn a lot of things you read here are from people who have a lot of $ and think quite highly of themselves, and sometimes you don't need to go to such extremes to get a good photo.

[condyk]

I'm beginning to learn a lot of things you read here are from people who have a lot of $ and think quite highly of themselves, and sometimes you don't need to go to such extremes to get a good photo.

Beware of false prophets and, at your age and with an impressionable nature, other 'false' things that might be attractive to a young man :cool:

[picturecrazy]

check out this sharp awesomeness
anyone who doesn't think this is killer sharp is an L-worshipping slave and can't see past their own L-superiority complex.
http://yoonl.brinkster.net/misc/img_9423.jpg

[JaGWiRE]

Beware of false prophets and, at your age and with an impressionable nature, other 'false' things that might be attractive to a young man :cool:


Real things are the only way to go, LOL. (Do we really want to have this discussion in a thread? If you want to pm me, I'de be glad to talk about things of this matter :D.)

[peacock]

check out this sharp awesomeness
anyone who doesn't think this is killer sharp is an L-worshipping slave and can't see past their own L-superiority complex.


Ahh thats much better , see this shot with the 70-200L is much clearer than the pooch shot with the 17-55 non L:lol:

[KevC]

Probably a 135mm f/2 tripoded, MLU, stopped to around f/8..... try that? :D

[Ronald S. Jr.]

check out this sharp awesomeness
anyone who doesn't think this is killer sharp is an L-worshipping slave and can't see past their own L-superiority complex.
http://yoonl.brinkster.net/misc/img_9423.jpg

If that was unintentional motion blur and not on a tripod, then you're subconsciously talented. Only horizontal blur, not vertical...at all. :shock: :eek:

[MDJAK]

This signature undergoing maintenance. I thank you for your patience.

Well, I for one am rapidly losing my patience. ;)

mark:):lol:

[Ronald S. Jr.]

Oh it's done for the moment. Be patient. Nothing new coming for a while.

[condyk]

Oh it's done for the moment. Be patient. Nothing new coming for a while.

We talking minutes or hours here?

[Ronald S. Jr.]

However long it takes to get more money. ;-)

[CyberDyneSystems]

here's a different kind of sharp

http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=ya955s&outx=600&noresize=1

[PetKal]

here's a different kind of sharp



Yeah, good thing you are talking about that dagger-like bill and not the IQ of the image.;) :lol:

[picturecrazy]

If that was unintentional motion blur and not on a tripod, then you're subconsciously talented. Only horizontal blur, not vertical...at all. :shock: :eek:

haha, I was practicing handheld panning. Was going to the racetrack in a couple days and thought I sure could use some practice first. You've got a keen eye to notice that.

[CyberDyneSystems]

Yeah, good thing you are talking about that dagger-like bill and not the IQ of the image.;) :lol:

I know, I had to cover my backside in advance :lol:

[PetKal]

I know, I had to cover my backside in advance :lol:

Saw you coming before you even decided to come over.:D :D
Well, we both know it's plenty sharp, but that particular series of images goes waaay beyond mere sharp IMO.....however, as you know, these sorta issues cause discussions....;)

[BearSummer]

Well these seem to be acceptably sharp

200mm f1.8 at f2.0 83k (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d47/BearSummer/Owl.jpg)

135mm f2.0 at f4.0 98k (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d47/BearSummer/135-f4-160th.jpg)

100% center crop of the above image 106k (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d47/BearSummer/135-f4-160th-crop.jpg)

all the best

BearSummer

[O/confusion]

...One of the things I've noticed on forums,. the moment you make a claim, you are guaranteed that someone will come along and say otherwise.


I've never heard such rubbish!:D

regards,
Terry

[PetKal]

I've never heard such rubbish!:D

regards,
Terry

Fair enough, I suppose living in Welland you do not hear much of .....anythin';) :D

[JaGWiRE]

Fair enough, I suppose living in Welland you do not hear much of .....anythin';) :D


Where the heck is that? Hehe.

[condyk]

Where the heck is that? Hehe.

I believe it is twinned with Waverley, NY

[PetKal]

I believe it is twinned with Waverley, NY
:lol: :lol:
Yup, just about.

[fellow14]

Well these seem to be acceptably sharp

200mm f1.8 at f2.0 83k (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d47/BearSummer/Owl.jpg)

135mm f2.0 at f4.0 98k (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d47/BearSummer/135-f4-160th.jpg)

100% center crop of the above image 106k (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d47/BearSummer/135-f4-160th-crop.jpg)

all the best

BearSummer

Dude, totally not sharp. I've seen more sharpness on a ball-bearing.:p

[BearSummer]

Dude, totally not sharp. I've seen more sharpness on a ball-bearing.:p

Dude,

those wet things in the front of your head are called eyes, things will appear much sharper if you open them once in a while. :p Having said that walking round with them closed lets you find all the sharp things in your local environment.

Regards

BearSummer

[condyk]

Yup appropriately sharp BareSummer just like they should be ... not hard edged 'cutouts' as many USM'd 'sharp' images appear to be. Look around you people and notice how much of the real world is not razor sharp ;-) Ease back on your USM.

[PetKal]

Yup appropriately sharp BareSummer just like they should be ... not hard edged 'cutouts' as many USM'd 'sharp' images appear to be. Look around you people and notice how much of the real world is not razor sharp ;-) Ease back on your USM.

Hear, hear !:lol:

[BearSummer]

Yup appropriately sharp BareSummer just like they should be ... not hard edged 'cutouts' as many USM'd 'sharp' images appear to be. Look around you people and notice how much of the real world is not razor sharp ;-) Ease back on your USM.

Thanks,

nothing spoils a good picture faster than to much USM. Trouble is that it seems to be the vogue to sharpen a picture to death and then some.

Regards

BearSummer

[PetKal]

Thanks,

nothing spoils a good picture faster than to much USM. Trouble is that it seems to be the vogue to sharpen a picture to death and then some.

Regards

BearSummer

Don't say :rolleyes: :lol: .
When the heck are you going to test that 14L ?
Where's the hold up ?
I'd really like to see some real good (and not neccessarily "insanely sharp") images taken with the lens.
Judging by the apperances from my end, you and that other collector pall of ours seem to be just sitting on it.;)

[condyk]

nothing spoils a good picture faster than to much USM. Trouble is that it seems to be the vogue to sharpen a picture to death and then some.


You sound like the kinda fella who's take up the challenge of the 'Fascinating feathery friend/food foto fun' (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2150781#post2150781) thread ;-) Sharpness is dead. Long live imagination!

[rklepper]

Sharpest I could find anywhere.

[PetKal]

Sharpest I could find anywhere.
Kelpe, you are funny, (for a German-Iowan, that is.;) ):lol:

[Roy Hernandez]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a311/socalpinoi/fyi.gifThis is what I call Sharp-----

----IE
http://www.goodexperience.com/broken/i/03/10/sharpie.s.jpg

:P :P :P

[rklepper]

Kelpe, you are funny, (for a German-Iowan, that is.;) ):lol:

I know. I am actually hadicapped as I am Welsh, born to a union between a German and a Brit. Actually a German from the hills of Kentucky and a Londoner. The real problem is my sense of humor is Welsh and I am trapped in a world I never made.